support for trans cratering

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1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

My nephew is 15, a freshman in high school.  There's at least 10 kids that identify as trans in his school.  At his middle school the prior year, the school had a "Pride Club".  His school had about 800 kids, of which, there we 70 members in the Pride Club.  He said that half identify as trans.  His cousin, who is gay, was in the that club and is the source of the information.

The high school that my nephews cousin went to, which is the local school of the middle school they both went to, has over 2500 kids and they have a Pride Club.  That club has over 200 members where a third identify as trans.  No, I'm not surprised you don't see many... because unless you're around middle and high school aged kids all day, you'd almost never see them.  I have 4 patients/clients who are trans.  All 4 are over 20 years old.  Of the 4, two have told me that they don't like the way schools promote the trans movement because the vast majority who claim to be trans, are just acting.  The other two doesn't talk about the topic.

People with kids should worry about it because it is getting a lot of, not just support, but condoning and encouragement in the schools.  Yeah, a lot of kids will grow out of it, some won't... but a good portion could be prompted to seek medical intervention, which is NOT acceptable.  After 18, have at it... prior?  Nope.

The few studies I’ve seen show that a majority of trans kids grow out of it - anywhere from 65-90%! Split the difference and let’s say 75% are no longer trans as adults.

You can expect 9 kids in your nephews school of 800 to be trans as adults and 16/17 out of your nephew’s cousins HS of 2500. That’s like .01%. 

I think it’s a fad and these #s are going to normalize over time but I’m not seeing some wild explosion here.

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

The few studies I’ve seen show that a majority of trans kids grow out of it - anywhere from 65-90%! Split the difference and let’s say 75% are no longer trans as adults.

You can expect 9 kids in your nephews school of 800 to be trans as adults and 16/17 out of your nephew’s cousins HS of 2500. That’s like .01%. 

I think it’s a fad and these #s are going to normalize over time but I’m not seeing some wild explosion here.

It’s 100% a fad. When I was younger, the fad was being bisexual. Girls would all claim they’re bisexual and some guys would too so they could sleep with girls. Now, it’s trans. I forgot how many thousands of percent the number of kids identifying as trans have went up but it’s an ungodly amount.

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1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Oh that helps.  You get upset if a man looks like a woman AND calls herself a woman.  Got it.  Looking like a woman is fine, but the moment she says "I'm a woman", then you get all pissed off.

For me, and I don't advocate this for others, but for me I don't care how one presents themselves.  I don't care how one views themselves subjectively and internally.  I do care if they want to control how I percieve them by demanding control over my language.

 

If I meet a trans woman I endeavor to be polite.  I treat them with courtesy.  I do not acquiese to using their preferred pronouns but I do refrain from using what to me are the apparent and correct pronouns.  I simply use the name they give (eschewing pronouns all together) as I generally know no other.  In the rare time where I did know their given name I did and still do them the courtesy of using their adopted name.  Same as if I meet a body modification person who has leopard spots tatoo'd all over them and who has had their canine teeth lengthed.  They may think they are a leopard but I do not.  I will offer them social courtesy up to a point.  I will not share their delusion but I give them room to be who they are.  The world is a rich tapestry and i do not seek to pull out any threads.

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8 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

For me, and I don't advocate this fro others, but for me I don't care how one presents themselves.  i don't care how one views themselves subjectively and internally.  i do care if they want to control how I percieve them by demanding control over my language.

 

If I meet a trans woman I endeavor to be polite.  i treat them with courtesy.  I do not acquiese to using their pronouns but I do refrain from using what to me are the apparent and correct pronouns.  I simply use the name they give (eschewing pronouns all together) as I generally know no other.  In the rare time where I did know their given name I did and still do them the courtesy of using their adopted name.  Same as if I meet a body modification person who has leopard spots tatoo'd all over them and who has had their canine teeth lengthed.  They may think they are a leopard but I do not.  I will offer them social courtesy up to a point.  I will not share their delusion but I give them room to be who they are.  The world is a rich tapestry and i do not seek to pull out any threads.

Yup, same here. 

I will not ask to see their genitals or birth certificates or engage in a fight so that they fit my world view.

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43 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

OK so she's not pushing for legislation or anything, she just said something outlandish in a video, great thanks.

Well duh, that's the extent of it's reach.  It's a cack sucking influencer, not a congressman.

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43 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

OK so she's not pushing for legislation or anything, she just said something outlandish in a video, great thanks.

 

44 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

OK so she's not pushing for legislation or anything, she just said something outlandish in a video, great thanks.

Nobody said anything about legislation, you idiot.  I said verbatim what he said.  You got the truth shoved up your a$$ and deflect it as just something outlandish.  Not surprising.  

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44 minutes ago, MDC said:

The few studies I’ve seen show that a majority of trans kids grow out of it - anywhere from 65-90%! Split the difference and let’s say 75% are no longer trans as adults.

You can expect 9 kids in your nephews school of 800 to be trans as adults and 16/17 out of your nephew’s cousins HS of 2500. That’s like .01%. 

I think it’s a fad and these #s are going to normalize over time but I’m not seeing some wild explosion here.

Yes, I've said it in another thread, trans kids today are the emo/goths of the 80's & 90's.  The thing is, we're not treating this fad like we did the last one.  Back in the 80's and 90's, they were left alone to be themselves... today, they're in a "protected class", they're not left alone, but encouraged.  Segments of our population champion the cause by putting biological men ahead of women in athletics.  On top of that we have a President signing an executive order to expedite and make the transition easier at younger ages.  Not only that, but in schools, they're encouraged to not even tell their parents.  The Democrat agenda on this is beyond absurd.

If this encouragement and agenda keeps getting legs and becomes a societal norm, you'll start to see a lot of kids transitioning.  Then, 10 years later, you'll see suicide rates explode as these people start having tragic levels of regret because they transitioned when they were 10 or 12 years old.

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5 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

 

Nobody said anything about legislation, you idiot.  I said verbatim what he said.  You got the truth shoved up your a$$ and deflect it as just something outlandish.  Not surprising.  

There is a difference between someone saying something one time like in anger "I could kill you" or in frustration like "that sh1t should be illegal".

I tried to find an instance of where she was actually asked about it and I couldn't find anything, so I just dismiss it as a one off comment.

But you, Captain literal, Mr I WILL ACCEPT NO LIES, see something like this and march in protest about it.  This is why you're a douche.

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I would disagree if they said that

Well, they aren't trying to make it a law

They didn't mean it, they were just angry

One off comment

Dismissed

Can't make this stuff up.

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7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

There is a difference between someone saying something one time like in anger "I could kill you" or in frustration like "that sh1t should be illegal".

I tried to find an instance of where she was actually asked about it and I couldn't find anything, so I just dismiss it as a one off comment.

But you, Captain literal, Mr I WILL ACCEPT NO LIES, see something like this and march in protest about it.  This is why you're a douche.

“You were right” would have been easier to type HTH

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There are boys with XY Chromosome that don't get enough testosterone during development in the womb who are born with incomplete genitalia.  That is a true medical condition that parents can seek medical care for.  It is exceedingly rare.

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1 hour ago, Stryker Ryker said:

Sorry but if you push any of this onto kids younger than 11/12 you’re 100% indoctrinating them as their brain cannot process the information. They’re too young. Their minds haven’t developed enough yet.

Indoctrination is in the eye of the beholder. Let’s take Sunday School: If we didn’t teach kids that God was real at a young age, how many would believe it? I’m guessing the numbers of religious people would be way lower if they were first introduced to the concept at age 13.

Teaching kids sanitized history that ignores the effects of slavery and Jim Crow from a young age could also be considered indoctrination.

You consider teaching kids that LGBTQ people exist and should be respected indoctrination? Others might think that’s just teaching them basic human dignity and respect. They’re gonna see kids with 2 dads or 2 moms. They’re gonna see transgender people. Pretending they don’t exist won’t work, so it’s going to come up.

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‘It’s Time to Start Worrying’: Trans People Are Questioning Their Futures in the US

Earlier this year, Kasja Malin, a 22-year-old trangender student living in Florida, had her access to trans-specific healthcare restricted—even though she is over 18. 

“I was working with my therapist and they had to drop me, and then my doctor, we were about to get things going a month ago or so, and then 254 [a bill that bans care for minors, allows the state to take over custody of children receiving gender-affirming care, and even restricts trans healthcare access for adults] was passed, and she had to just be like, ‘Wait, no, I can't actually prescribe you anything,’” Malin said.  

According to reports, many healthcare workers in states with gender-affirming care bans like Florida are avoiding prescribing hormone replacement therapy altogether because they’re worried about repercussions, including criminal charges. The ambiguity of many of the anti-trans bills makes matters worse. 

 

 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxjjb5/trans-people-worried-about-future

 

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1 hour ago, Gepetto said:

There are boys with XY Chromosome that don't get enough testosterone during development in the womb who are born with incomplete genitalia.  That is a true medical condition that parents can seek medical care for.  It is exceedingly rare.

They are XXY or XXYY.

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42 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Indoctrination is in the eye of the beholder. Let’s take Sunday School: If we didn’t teach kids that God was real at a young age, how many would believe it? I’m guessing the numbers of religious people would be way lower if they were first introduced to the concept at age 13.

Teaching kids sanitized history that ignores the effects of slavery and Jim Crow from a young age could also be considered indoctrination.

You consider teaching kids that LGBTQ people exist and should be respected indoctrination? Others might think that’s just teaching them basic human dignity and respect. They’re gonna see kids with 2 dads or 2 moms. They’re gonna see transgender people. Pretending they don’t exist won’t work, so it’s going to come up.

Holy bullshit Batman.  Yeah, none of us that went to school decades ago learned about slavery and Jim Crow. 

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24 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

They are XXY or XXYY.

Swyer syndrome

A rare genetic condition in which people who have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome (the usual pattern for males) look female. They have normal female reproductive organs, including a uterus, fallopian tubes, and vagina. However, the ovaries do not develop and are replaced by clumps of tissue where they would normally form. Swyer syndrome is usually not diagnosed until puberty, when menstrual periods do not begin as they should. Having Swyer syndrome increases the risk of certain types of germ cell tumors. source: https://www.cancer.gov/publications/dictionaries/cancer-terms/def/swyer-syndrome

 

but yes those other sex chromosome additions also as you mention.

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1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxjjb5/trans-people-worried-about-future

 

It’s elective. No employer should be paying for it 

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59 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Holy bullshit Batman.  Yeah, none of us that went to school decades ago learned about slavery and Jim Crow. 

Well, considering they just passed the laws whitewashing history in the past year or two… how could that have affected you decades ago?

And even what we learned before this new wave of censorship left out a LOT. One common example: most people I know learned about the Tulsa race massacre from the Watchmen TV show, NOT from history class in school. 

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11 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

This issue is a disaster for the left.  Keep the conversation going. 

Exactly.  Earlier today Timtard said it should be mandatory that children be taught about sexuality and gender identity, and also be exposed to trannies, gays, and all the other letters and symbols.  Imagine the balls it takes to say something like that.  Mandatory training on sexuality and transgerism.  By Liberal teachers.  To children.  Yeah, good luck with that latte-boy.

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3 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Exactly.  Earlier today Timtard said it should be mandatory that children be taught about sexuality and gender identity, and also be exposed to trannies, gays, and all the other letters and symbols.  Imagine the balls it takes to say something like that.  Mandatory training on sexuality and transgerism.  By Liberal teachers.  To children.  Yeah, good luck with that latte-boy.

Biden told him they aren't your kids, they are all of our kids. Idiots like Tim believed him.

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9 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Well, considering they just passed the laws whitewashing history in the past year or two… how could that have affected you decades ago?

And even what we learned before this new wave of censorship left out a LOT. One common example: most people I know learned about the Tulsa race massacre from the Watchmen TV show, NOT from history class in school. 

Show us the public school curriculum that exists that doesn’t address slavery and Jim Crow. I’ll go ahead and give a pre-emptive  “crickets” right now. Prove me wrong.  

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6 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Exactly.  Earlier today Timtard said it should be mandatory that children be taught about sexuality and gender identity, and also be exposed to trannies, gays, and all the other letters and symbols.  Imagine the balls it takes to say something like that.  Mandatory training on sexuality and transgerism.  By Liberal teachers.  To children.  Yeah, good luck with that latte-boy.

Yup.  They asked for it, they got it. 

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11 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Well, considering they just passed the laws whitewashing history in the past year or two… how could that have affected you decades ago?

And even what we learned before this new wave of censorship left out a LOT. One common example: most people I know learned about the Tulsa race massacre from the Watchmen TV show, NOT from history class in school. 

Most people I know know nothing about the bonus army riot.  Not a thing. Most likely you as well. Why isn’t that taught? We can do this all night if you like. 

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3 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

OK so she's not pushing for legislation or anything, she just said something outlandish in a video, great thanks.

What the fock are you talking about?  She said misgendering should be illegal.  Clearly.  And that’s about all she said.  You idiots live in your own little Universe.

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8 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

How many parents are making their kids get sex changes?  Is this really as big of a problem as conservatives are making it out to be?

Making their kids get sex changes?  I can't imagine that is a legitimate concern about trans youth, and has to be extremely rare.   I don't think that is what the concern is about, at least not for me.   More like stats pointing to part of this rapid increase is social in nature + the general push towards getting kids on hormones and down a path to permanent changes + this being tied into more broad issues that then affect the rest of us - science, competition, safety, definitions of words, language, etc.  

I would be an issue if it was just about the kids on hormones, but when it's that plus the push to accept them 100% as women and the safety of women in sports among other things - that's where of the problem lies.    

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18 hours ago, weepaws said:

So are the trans. 

 

13 hours ago, dogcows said:

Here’s what the Bible has to say about gender: Galatians 3:28. ”There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female; for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”

 

One can’t live in sin and be in Christ, a trans is living in sin.  Old Testament Deuteronomy 22:5. New Testament Romans 1:24-27.  

1 Corinthians 11:3-15.  1 Corinthians 14:40.  See foolishness is not giving up ones sin for Jesus, Jesus isn’t in sin, and can’t live in sin, Jesus is against all sin, so please turn from yours, repent and accept Jesus Christ Lord Savior before you’re just kindling. 

Always good to see non believers looking up scripture keep up the good work.  

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5 hours ago, MDC said:

The few studies I’ve seen show that a majority of trans kids grow out of it - anywhere from 65-90%! Split the difference and let’s say 75% are no longer trans as adults.

You can expect 9 kids in your nephews school of 800 to be trans as adults and 16/17 out of your nephew’s cousins HS of 2500. That’s like .01%. 

I think it’s a fad and these #s are going to normalize over time but I’m not seeing some wild explosion here.

What studies are these? Extremely skeptical. 

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The truth is exactly the opposite: 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/transgender-kids-tend-to-maintain-their-identities-as-they-grow-up-study-suggests

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51 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What studies are these? Extremely skeptical. 

Internet studies. 

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46 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What studies are these? Extremely skeptical. 

I haven't seen any that suggest numbers near that high, but I'd welcome the link.   I've seen 90%+ maintain that identity after socially tranisitioning, which is a common study that pops up from the AAoP, but nothing that has shown the opposite trend.  

 

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7 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

My nephew is 15, a freshman in high school.  There's at least 10 kids that identify as trans in his school.  At his middle school the prior year, the school had a "Pride Club".  His school had about 800 kids, of which, there we 70 members in the Pride Club.  He said that half identify as trans.  His cousin, who is gay, was in the that club and is the source of the information.

The high school that my nephews cousin went to, which is the local school of the middle school they both went to, has over 2500 kids and they have a Pride Club.  That club has over 200 members where a third identify as trans.  No, I'm not surprised you don't see many... because unless you're around middle and high school aged kids all day, you'd almost never see them.  I have 4 patients/clients who are trans.  All 4 are over 20 years old.  Of the 4, two have told me that they don't like the way schools promote the trans movement because the vast majority who claim to be trans, are just acting.  The other two doesn't talk about the topic.

People with kids should worry about it because it is getting a lot of, not just support, but condoning and encouragement in the schools.  Yeah, a lot of kids will grow out of it, some won't... but a good portion could be prompted to seek medical intervention, which is NOT acceptable.  After 18, have at it... prior?  Nope.

What I don't seem to find answers on is what % of these kids intend to go on to hormones+ and how many just "identify" as such and stop there with the social transition.   I guess what I am saying is that transgender <> transsexual and if these teens are more in camp #1, it could be a reason for those inflated numbers.   Now some of the tom boys and girls who would have have had eating disorders/cutters, etc.  might be more likely to identify as trans.  

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

The truth is exactly the opposite: 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/transgender-kids-tend-to-maintain-their-identities-as-they-grow-up-study-suggests

Yeah, real reliable.  The age range was 3-12 and the average age was 6. Does it seal the deal for you that most of them were still pre-pubescent when they were “maintaining their identity”? And most of them from uppity white libtard families.  JFC, you people.

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7 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Yeah, real reliable.  The age range was 3-12 and the average age was 6. Does it seal the deal for you that most of them were still pre-pubescent when they were “maintaining their identity”? And most of them from uppity white libtard families.  JFC, you people.

Toting around a four-year-old tranny serves as a fashion accessory in these social circles.

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6 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Yeah, real reliable.  The age range was 3-12 and the average age was 6. Does it seal the deal for you that most of them were still pre-pubescent when they were “maintaining their identity”? And most of them from uppity white libtard families.  JFC, you people.

So how about a link to the studies others are talking about as well?

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Western European countries have halted puberty blockers and surgery.  The UK is the latest to stop prescribing them but for extreme circumstances.  Suck it. 

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1 hour ago, weepaws said:

 

One can’t live in sin and be in Christ, a trans is living in sin.  Old Testament Deuteronomy 22:5. New Testament Romans 1:24-27.  

1 Corinthians 11:3-15.  1 Corinthians 14:40.  See foolishness is not giving up ones sin for Jesus, Jesus isn’t in sin, and can’t live in sin, Jesus is against all sin, so please turn from yours, repent and accept Jesus Christ Lord Savior before you’re just kindling. 

Always good to see non believers looking up scripture keep up the good work.  

That Deuteronomy passage says cross-dressing is a sin (but not changing your gender). Did you read the rest of that chapter? No mixing wool and linen, no mixing seeds in your vineyards, and most importantly, get the town elders together and check female virginity before marriage… and if she’s not a virgin, the men of the town stone her to death! Do you follow all those rules too? I believe another poster mentioned the context of the Bible. Seems like you’re conveniently ignoring everything in Deut 22 except the cross-dressing bit.

As for the first Chapter of Romans, it doesn’t mention anything about transgender people. It’s anti-gay… which, as many like to point out, is different than being transgender.

Glad to enjoy this review of the Bible with you.

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There is no such thing as trans.

Man and woman.  That's it.

Facts not feelings.

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12 hours ago, zsasz said:

When was the last time a "trannie" forced you to suck a dich?  I  realize that your boyfriend makes you do that all the time; and I support that for you....its  good you found love; but that's not the same as being forced out on the street to be gay with someone you dont' want to be gay with.

I love when "allies" insult people by calling them gay. 

It shows that they really don't give a hoot about gay people. They just want to support their team.