League Champion 1,909 Posted August 24, 2023 Just now, shadrap said: didn't watch. rehearsed, memorized answers, & practiced sound bits that most times don't answer the questions. no thanks, but I like reading about it the next day. Smart, you didn't miss anything. It was exactly that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 368 Posted August 24, 2023 After last night,...it's over. Joe Biden is going to win again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,314 Posted August 24, 2023 Last time Biden was on the debate stage he flat out lied to the country. Russian disinformation! My some never made money from China! I have never spoken to my family about their overseas business dealings! Really Joe? Then how do you know Hunter didn’t get paid by China? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted August 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Last time Biden was on the debate stage he flat out lied to the country. Russian disinformation! My some never made money from China! I have never spoken to my family about their overseas business dealings! Really Joe? Then how do you know Hunter didn’t get paid by China? They'll never let Biden debate. He can no longer put together a coherent sentence. THERE'S ZERO CHANCE THAT THEY LET HIM DEBATE, ANYONE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,140 Posted August 24, 2023 47 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Are you sure that’s exactly what he said? You know I went back and watched a clip he said the “climate change agenda is a hoax” whatever that means. I was listening on the radio and DeSantis cut off the question that was raise your hand if you believe we can impact climate change (or however it was worded) so didn’t see if anyone raised their hands. None of them answered and all deferred to talking points. In any case this answer from Vivek is very “Trumpish”. Say something outrageous and then get air time nibbling around the edges of it when followed up. Complain about the media coverage when they ask for follow up. We’ll see if that occurs here. I have watched him do this in an interview on anothe subject. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,251 Posted August 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, League Champion said: They'll never let Biden debate. He can no longer put together a coherent sentence. THERE'S ZERO CHANCE THAT THEY LET HIM DEBATE, ANYONE. Note to self, Mikehonchobump when Biden debates GOP nominee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,140 Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, League Champion said: I'll always give my honest opinion, on anything. It was your typical BS talent show. Although he's not my cup of tea (corny & fake) Ramaswamy clearly stood out. He could actually turn some moderate Dems. He's the Hindu Obama If that makes sense. Being from SC it's the same crap from Nikki Haley, she's just a talker, despised in her own State. Desantis is done, he spun himself out immediately, Pence is an idiot and I'm not even sure why Christie wasted money on a plane ticket. I like Tim Scott a lot (another from SC) but he's just too nice and honest to be a politician. The Left will call him an uncle Tom, he's actually very smart but awkward at times. His buddy Trey Gowdy would make a better candidate. These things do have a trainwreck factor but are fun to watch and see how people react for in a small window of time. I’d compare Vivik much more to a Trump knock off. Doesn’t have Obama’s hope and changing schtick or calmness. Likes to troll as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,140 Posted August 24, 2023 54 minutes ago, shadrap said: didn't watch. rehearsed, memorized answers, & practiced sound bits that most times don't answer the questions. no thanks, but I like reading about it the next day. There is a lot of rehearsed lines. If you don’t watch though you miss out on subtle little things, get to see the cringy moments, or get your own read on people. Asa Hutchinson for instance will get zero coverage, has no chance but if you are an old school conservative he was very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, thegeneral said: You know I went back and watched a clip he said the “climate change agenda is a hoax” whatever that means. I was listening on the radio and DeSantis cut off the question that was raise your hand if you believe we can impact climate change (or however it was worded) so didn’t see if anyone raised their hands. None of them answered and all deferred to talking points. In any case this answer from Vivek is very “Trumpish”. Say something outrageous and then get air time nibbling around the edges of it when followed up. Complain about the media coverage when they ask for follow up. We’ll see if that occurs here. I have watched him do this in an interview on anothe subject. One person went to raise their hand, the old dude. Vivek is trying to act like Trump. His plan is to either get the VP, or if Trump can't run, then to be the nominee, and he's trying to just step right into his shoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted August 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I’d compare Vivik much more to a Trump knock off. I see your point but he's definitely smoother than Trump. At least this guy has a filter, he sounds like a bamboozler, more in the Obama mold. He's a talker, and a good one. If he cleans it up a bit I think he'll gain traction going forth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,405 Posted August 24, 2023 53 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Last time Biden was on the debate stage he flat out lied to the country. Russian disinformation! My some never made money from China! I have never spoken to my family about their overseas business dealings! Really Joe? Then how do you know Hunter didn’t get paid by China? There is an ongoing investigation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,737 Posted August 24, 2023 34 minutes ago, League Champion said: I see your point but he's definitely smoother than Trump. At least this guy has a filter, he sounds like a bamboozler, more in the Obama mold. He's a talker, and a good one. If he cleans it up a bit I think he'll gain traction going forth. Wait until he does and they start attacking his skin color and by saying they I mean democrats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,207 Posted August 24, 2023 49 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Note to self, Mikehonchobump when Biden debates GOP nominee. Please do. I concur that Biden will avoid the debate. But consider that Trump just gave him that "out" by avoiding the GOP debate. It makes perfect sense for Biden to avoid the debate and he can easily portray that act in such a way as to energize his supporters as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 24, 2023 The second that DeSantis finished himself off: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,251 Posted August 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: Please do. I concur that Biden will avoid the debate. But consider that Trump just gave him that "out" by avoiding the GOP debate. It makes perfect sense for Biden to avoid the debate and he can easily portray that act in such a way as to energize his supporters as well. Will do. Presidents rarely(if ever) participate in nomination debates, but I'll be surprised if he skips the Presidential ones. We will see-you can use my #mikehonchobump to pull this up if/when I'm wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,737 Posted August 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, lod001 said: The second that DeSantis finished himself off: I find Libby very oddly attractive. Maybe it’s an intellectual thing with her but it’s something.I don’t know but she does something for me. Very oddly attractive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,207 Posted August 24, 2023 Just now, Mike Honcho said: Will do. Presidents rarely(if ever) participate in nomination debates, but I'll be surprised if he skips the Presidential ones. We will see-you can use my #mikehonchobump to pull this up if/when I'm wrong. I completely support Biden's position to not have some debate with others challenging him for the nomination. It would be inane to do so. I would never suggest a sitting President hold a nomination debate. I think this time around it makes more sense for him to avoid a Presidential debate. It might be true that he still has just enough mental capacity to be adequately coached, but if we see him avoid the debate that is sorta telling. Plus he can redirect. HE can portray it in a way that suggests HIS avoidance is viruous, and in the same breath portray Trumps avoidance as cowardice, and we already know his supporters will eat that up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,251 Posted August 24, 2023 Just now, RLLD said: I completely support Biden's position to not have some debate with others challenging him for the nomination. It would be inane to do so. I would never suggest a sitting President hold a nomination debate. I think this time around it makes more sense for him to avoid a Presidential debate. It might be true that he still has just enough mental capacity to be adequately coached, but if we see him avoid the debate that is sorta telling. Plus he can redirect. HE can portray it in a way that suggests HIS avoidance is viruous, and in the same breath portray Trumps avoidance as cowardice, and we already know his supporters will eat that up. If he were to avoid the debate, that would be the first time I would start taking seriously the "cognitive decline" label that is thrown at him and would seriously make me reconsider my vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,207 Posted August 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said: If he were to avoid the debate, that would be the first time I would start taking seriously the "cognitive decline" label that is thrown at him and would seriously make me reconsider my vote. Agree. I am interested to see how they handle this, it should be rather entertaining the second time around..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,314 Posted August 24, 2023 What I learned last night after watching the people on the stage is that considering the fact that all of them can form a complete sentence, no one stumbled or feel, and nobody took a nap, and none of them will have Kamala as a running mate, every one of them are better than what we have now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, HellToupee said: Wait until he does and they start attacking his skin color and by saying they I mean democrats Do you think Democrats will stoop as low as demanding to see his birth certificate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted August 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Do you think Democrats will stoop as low as demanding to see his birth certificate? Wait, didn't you refer to him as Brown Man earlier? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,125 Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, lod001 said: The second that DeSantis finished himself off: It has been funny watching people on Fox say he did a good job last night..he sucked. His closing comment was hilarious..just a robotic display, and at the end trying cram in his script. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,398 Posted August 24, 2023 DeSantis looks like he hates his life and is dying inside. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted August 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: DeSantis looks like he hates his life and is dying inside. He does look rough, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 24, 2023 55 minutes ago, Herbivore said: It has been funny watching people on Fox say he did a good job last night..he sucked. His closing comment was hilarious..just a robotic display, and at the end trying cram in his script. If they came out and said he was coached by Jeb Bush, I would say, 'that's obvious'. 54 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: DeSantis looks like he hates his life and is dying inside. He realizes his huge mistake of not waiting 4 years. He pretty much just committed political suicide. He's said a lot of good things like fock you fauci but the RINO's got to him and he made the mistake of letting that happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: DeSantis looks like he hates his life and is dying inside. Yeah everything looks forced. It's very weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted August 24, 2023 One thing I will say is that, other than Vivek and Ron, the candidates were generally quite principled, and honest. I don’t agree with a lot of their positions (though I do agree with some), but I give them credit for not trying to spin or hide them 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted August 24, 2023 This: https://x.com/mattwalshblog/status/1694819926077272089?s=46&t=r0y3bJ1CDXchoYAztDxmqw Also why isn’t twitter x bedding into posts now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted August 24, 2023 36 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: This: https://x.com/mattwalshblog/status/1694819926077272089?s=46&t=r0y3bJ1CDXchoYAztDxmqw Also why isn’t twitter x bedding into posts now? The problem is, Desantis is a weirdo. No strategy or advice is going to change that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,737 Posted August 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: This: https://x.com/mattwalshblog/status/1694819926077272089?s=46&t=r0y3bJ1CDXchoYAztDxmqw Also why isn’t twitter x bedding into posts now? Is this on the app? Try the browser version Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: The problem is, Desantis is a weirdo. No strategy or advice is going to change that I’m not a huge Desantis guy, but he had a full head of steam six months ago and he has fallen flat. He needs to fire his whole team and start over. He doesn’t look himself and uncomfortable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,398 Posted August 25, 2023 I noticed a lot of people forgot about Tucker saying these things about Trump. https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1694697007711957468?s=20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,061 Posted August 25, 2023 10 hours ago, KSB2424 said: I’m not a huge Desantis guy, but he had a full head of steam six months ago and he has fallen flat. He needs to fire his whole team and start over. He doesn’t look himself and uncomfortable. Yep. DeSantis was first on my list and now I'm back to not knowing who I would vote for. I hope he can recover. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,783 Posted August 26, 2023 On 8/25/2023 at 8:19 AM, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Yep. DeSantis was first on my list and now I'm back to not knowing who I would vote for. I hope he can recover. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, TimHauck said: He's always wearing heels. He must have did some polling that says the right wants a big macho tough talker like trump, but that's not him. He tried acting tough during the debate and came off like an insane robot. And the heels just look stupid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,125 Posted August 26, 2023 On 8/25/2023 at 8:17 AM, Hawkeye21 said: I noticed a lot of people forgot about Tucker saying these things about Trump. https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1694697007711957468?s=20 Tucker and Trump fans are stupid, they count on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,324 Posted August 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Herbivore said: Tucker and Trump fans are stupid, they count on it. Says people who follow krassenstein??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites