last minute shopping list for nuclear war

[JustinCharge 2,397]

we are again in a very dangerous moment for WW3 to start.

1. water / food at least 1 months worth, plus lots of condiments to make food taste better)
2. gasoline
3. new tires
4. hand crank generator at least if not solar panels hydropower
5. medicine / first aid
6. flashlights
7. self defense (guns, ammo, etc)
8. hand tools (shovels, knives, firestarter, etc)
9.  thermal wear, rugged clothes and camping equipment
10. radio
11.  satellite phone
12. EMP shielding
13. paper maps (REI), pen and paper

[The Real timschochet 6,757]

Love the one month of food. What happens after one month? 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

14 - 99. Tin foil

[thegeneral 3,208]

Paper was worth more than almost anything in the documentary “Waterworld”. Different type of apocalypse I understand, but you figure certain things would translate. 

Seemed odd to me but going with that I’d stock up on many types of various books and magazines and you’ll will be very well off.

[The Real timschochet 6,757]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Paper was worth more than almost anything in the documentary “Waterworld”. Different type of apocalypse I understand, but you figure certain things would translate. 

Seemed odd to me but going with that I’d stock up on many types of various books and magazines and you’ll will be very well off.

You mean porn, right? 

[The Real timschochet 6,757]

7 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

 

7. self defense (guns, ammo, etc)
 

You’d better hope that it’s more than your neighbor has, or he’s taking everything on your list. 

[thegeneral 3,208]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You mean porn, right? 

The documentary didn’t really show what was on the paper. But I can see you are already thinking and that will serve you well.

[Drizzay 719]

11 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

6. flashlights

Am I the only one that originally read this as "fleshlights"? 

[The Real timschochet 6,757]

“Nuclear War Shopping List” is the name of my favorite Clash cover band. 
 

A nuclear error, but I have no fear cause London is drowning and I…live by the river! 

[Ultra Max Power 214]

As a semi-pro on this... your list is all over the place.  

The first step in a prep is to figure out if you're bugging out or bugging in. 

In the burbs I was bugging out.  Now that I'm in the country, I'm bugging in. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

4 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said:

As a semi-pro on this... your list is all over the place.  

The first step in a prep is to figure out if you're bugging out or bugging in. 

In the burbs I was bugging out.  Now that I'm in the country, I'm bugging in. 

Pretty sure you’re all bugging out ‍

[Ultra Max Power 214]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Pretty sure you’re all bugging out ‍

Yeah its not going to be a nuclear war.  The biggest threat to Americans is if some country ever takes out a large portion of our power grid.  The military has red celled this and things go south way fast than people would expect.  

[thegeneral 3,208]

2 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said:

Yeah its not going to be a nuclear war.  The biggest threat to Americans is if some country ever takes out a large portion of our power grid.  The military has red celled this and things go south way fast than people would expect.  

Just go over to Justin’s house and take his flashlights and maps.

[OldMaid 2,130]

37 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Paper was worth more than almost anything in the documentary “Waterworld”. Different type of apocalypse I understand, but you figure certain things would translate. 

Seemed odd to me but going with that I’d stock up on many types of various books and magazines and you’ll will be very well off.

After covid, the only paper I’m stocking up on is toilet. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

4 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said:

Yeah its not going to be a nuclear war.  The biggest threat to Americans is if some country ever takes out a large portion of our power grid.  The military has red celled this and things go south way fast than people would expect.  

It’d be hard to take out a big portion of our power grid because it’s a totally decentralized patchwork heap of junk. Which is very inefficient but does have the advantage of being invulnerable to a kill shot 

[thegeneral 3,208]

1 minute ago, OldMaid said:

After covid, the only paper I’m stocking up on is toilet. 

Toto toilet and gravity fed water basin (not on Justin’s list) and you are set.

[HellToupee 1,773]

 

[jerryskids 6,790]

45 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Paper was worth more than almost anything in the documentary “Waterworld”. Different type of apocalypse I understand, but you figure certain things would translate. 

Seemed odd to me but going with that I’d stock up on many types of various books and magazines and you’ll will be very well off.

A bible was very valuable in Book of Eli.  @weepaws probably has a few to spare, we could raid his cult compound in Reno.

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Toto toilet and gravity fed water basin (not on Justin’s list) and you are set.

I have a Toto toilet/bidet combo; a clean starfish would be enjoyable during the apocalypse.   

[Ultra Max Power 214]

18 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

It’d be hard to take out a big portion of our power grid because it’s a totally decentralized patchwork heap of junk. Which is very inefficient but does have the advantage of being invulnerable to a kill shot 

Yeah it would be difficult. China is probably the only country that could actually do it.  

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

1 hour ago, JustinCharge said:

we are again in a very dangerous moment for WW3 to start.

1. water / food at least 1 months worth, plus lots of condiments to make food taste better)
2. gasoline
3. new tires
 

 

Yeah, that's just not practical IMHO. 

1) If you survive what will likely be three different waves of nuclear strikes on American soil, your best bet is to already prepare by finding a way to get underground. The deeper the better. Obviously the deeper you go, that raises all kinds of tradeoffs and other concerns. 

2) You need a consistent and reliable source of clean water. 

3) You need a renewable supply of food. Hydroponics, microgreens, etc, etc, can all be very useful but that requires some complex knowledge base and infrastructure. 

4) You need power. Forget about solar. How long will some gasoline last for a generator? If you are underground and the area is large enough and there's some kind of running water source, then hydro electric. Again, this goes down roads of complexity

5) Are guns needed? Sure, but your best bet is to stay hidden. 

6) You need a way to stay busy and you need "community"  Building a Faraday Cage and having a large archive of video games, downloaded offline Wikipedia, ebooks, music, movies, etc, etc would be critical. Having a library of those immersive video games would probably be a lifesaver. 

7) From an emotional health perspective, you need something to "look forward to in life"  Just day after day and grind after grind to just get by will help you survive, but it's not living. If there are kids, then that's even harder. 

8 ) Nuclear winter, acid rain, contamination of the soil, mass famine and starvation, etc, etc, you will have to be able to hide out and bunker up for the long haul. 

The best chance for the entire human race is three fold

A) Have large communities underground. Not just one or two families, but something the size of a small city. And the resources to support it. 

B ) You have to have multiple colonies in space, not traveling to other planets, but in near orbit to Earth. How do you achieve this? Since the world is going to be irradiated anyway, more nuclear weapons going off won't really matter at some level. Project Orion is a DARPA concept to lift an entire city into space. Using nuclear weapons in successive order UNDER the city ( very complicated) to lift it up and achieve escape velocity. It would also help to have a "space elevator" as well ( How you achieve that and not have it be taken out by full blown nuclear war, I don't know) 

C) Have dedicated bases underwater ( again a massive resource drain and would need to be developed before a nuclear war)  that can support aircraft carriers and submarines. 

You could have supplies for a full year or even five years, for a family, in their house, even at distance from the major blast zones, and the ecological and climate damage alone would kill them quickly.  Yes, people will die for starvation or the inability to find water, some from radiation, but the real killer will be the inability to regulate one's core temperature. You block out the sun for God knows how long and what is going to happen? 

Do you know how you survive in a war zone when you can't escape? You get deeper and deeper into the ground. If you can. You bunker up and hide if you can't fight. This is not much different. 

Here's what I will say in your favor, at least you are asking some of the larger questions. Most of the radical leftists just laugh at you, but usually these are the folks that no one wants as neighbors and wouldn't want them near children at all. The entire world has gone to sh!t in the last 3-4 years. While the odds of all out nuclear war are not extremely high, it's fool hardy not to prepare something for tough times to come. Leftists clearly don't care, so feel sorry for their children. Their children will likely have to die for their parent's arrogance and ignorance. In the middle of 2020, a lot of grocery store shelves were empty. Many people just want to plain forget that. It didn't take much for things to go off the rails. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Love the one month of food. What happens after one month? 

if the crisis lasts more than a month, were all dead anyway.  im thinking the only reason to prep is a small nuclear exchange that affects your area and you need to hunker down for a month until help arrives.  building anything massive with large resources to last years is a waste as there will nothing to escape to.

[weepaws 3,191]

3 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

we are again in a very dangerous moment for WW3 to start.

1. water / food at least 1 months worth, plus lots of condiments to make food taste better)
2. gasoline
3. new tires
4. hand crank generator at least if not solar panels hydropower
5. medicine / first aid
6. flashlights
7. self defense (guns, ammo, etc)
8. hand tools (shovels, knives, firestarter, etc)
9.  thermal wear, rugged clothes and camping equipment
10. radio
11.  satellite phone
12. EMP shielding
13. paper maps (REI), pen and paper

Bible.  

[weepaws 3,191]

3 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Paper was worth more than almost anything in the documentary “Waterworld”. Different type of apocalypse I understand, but you figure certain things would translate. 

Seemed odd to me but going with that I’d stock up on many types of various books and magazines and you’ll will be very well off.

Reminds me of how tough it was to find papers towels and Toilet paper.  

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

24 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

if the crisis lasts more than a month, were all dead anyway.  im thinking the only reason to prep is a small nuclear exchange that affects your area and you need to hunker down for a month until help arrives.  building anything massive with large resources to last years is a waste as there will nothing to escape to.

 

If we are talking just adults, then I agree with you in general

However if we are talking people with kids, then that changes everything. Nearly all parents will move a mountain if it will keep their child safe for one more day, one more hour, one more minute. 

So I don't know if you have kids or not, and I'm not asking in public, but parents in general can't afford indifference. It just doesn't work that way. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,855]

Justin - How long do we have?   

[GutterBoy 2,899]

11 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Justin - How long do we have?   

Any minute now...

[Voltaire 5,315]

A mating pair of each species of animal in the world (except mosquitoes.)

[Cdub100 3,903]

10 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

we are again in a very dangerous moment for WW3 to start.

1. water / food at least 1 months worth, plus lots of condiments to make food taste better)
2. gasoline
3. new tires
4. hand crank generator at least if not solar panels hydropower
5. medicine / first aid
6. flashlights
7. self defense (guns, ammo, etc)
8. hand tools (shovels, knives, firestarter, etc)
9.  thermal wear, rugged clothes and camping equipment
10. radio
11.  satellite phone
12. EMP shielding
13. paper maps (REI), pen and paper

#1 is get your covid booster.

[Mike Honcho 5,269]

1. Drive to largest city target area.

2. Instantly die and not have to worry about living in post-apocalyptic hellscape. 

[The Real timschochet 6,757]

7 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

if the crisis lasts more than a month,

If there is a nuclear war the crisis is going to last forever. 
 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

10 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

9.  thermal wear, rugged clothes and camping equipment
 

planning to do a lot of camping in the nuclear fallout? 

[RLLD 4,230]

Hilarity dominates this thread   

[thegeneral 3,208]

29 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

planning to do a lot of camping in the nuclear fallout? 

A nice three season tent should be fine in the post apocalypse landscape. I have had good luck with Big Agnes or Sierra Designs.

 

[Voltaire 5,315]

40 year supply of Doritos.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

12 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

40 year supply of Doritos.

Did you ever finish up all that barbecue sauce I sent you? What did you think about it?

[Voltaire 5,315]

4 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Did you ever finish up all that barbecue sauce I sent you? What did you think about it?

We finished it a long time ago and did enjoyed it. Thank You again. How is Shiloh?

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

9 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

We finished it a long time ago and did enjoyed it. Thank You again. How is Shiloh?

That kitty got adopted a long time ago. I don't even remember where he went. 

He and his siblings were part of the Kitten Class of 2022. We usually take in one batch of kittens in the spring.

This year's batch of nine was around longer than usual. Two of them got adopted last week, and we took seven over to the SPCA in Dallas to be shipped down to Austin, where they'll be adopted quickly. My wife had gotten really attached to one of them and was crying about letting him go, and the cat was loudly meowing at her from inside the carrier.

And that was the end of that. Foster fail, our first in a long time. He's happily tear-assing around the house as we speak.

At least we got rid of the other six. At this point, we're down to a couple of marginally adoptable foster cats and our keepers, including the new guy.

[The Real timschochet 6,757]

4 hours ago, Voltaire said:

40 year supply of Doritos.

Now I’m curious as to how much would be needed. 

[Fnord 2,264]

Good thing the local Menards is having a sale on EMP shielding this week. On top of an 11% rebate!