Fnord 2,264 Posted November 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, BudBro said: Good effort at obfuscation. The admin mandated to the states, who mandated to employers. Why cover for it? Federally funded Medicaid and Medicare facilities and Head Start programs were required to have employees vaccinated. This is a no-brainer from a public health perspective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 181 Posted November 5, 2024 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: It’s one of the hardest topics to talk about because there is no clear right or wrong conclusion. Nothing but opinions. There is right and there is wrong. We all know it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 181 Posted November 5, 2024 Just now, Fnord said: Federally funded Medicaid and Medicare facilities and Head Start programs were required to have employees vaccinated. This is a no-brainer from a public health perspective. Glad we agree. Not sure why you tried to cover for the uncoverable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 573 Posted November 5, 2024 15 minutes ago, BudBro said: The abortion topic has been turned over to the states by the Supreme Court. Abortion is alive and well. One can travel to my state, for instance, and we will kill your child right up to the time he or she is being born. Progressive thinking, for sure. If one had the opportunity to ask the child his opinion, I'm sure that 100% of the girls and boys would choose to "give it a go" instead of being killed. As well, I bet 100% of those would-be mothers would answer “No” if they were asked if they wish they’d been aborted by their own mothers. They’re glad they were spared, but don’t want to give the same opportunity to their own unborn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted November 5, 2024 19 minutes ago, BudBro said: There is right and there is wrong. We all know it. There is a lot of gray area with abortion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted November 5, 2024 More concerned with Abortion rather than the economy, border and World Wars. That's all they care about, WTF with these sick F's How many abortions do their girls have?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted November 5, 2024 9 minutes ago, League Champion said: More concerned with Abortion rather than the economy, border and World Wars. That's all they care about, WTF with these sick F's How many abortions do their girls have?? It:s literally, all they care about in life. Killing kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted November 5, 2024 Just now, seafoam1 said: It:s literally, all they care about in life. Killing kids. It's really unbelievable And it's the Men who are worried about it. Shut the F up and let Women worry about it. You're not a Woman! I don't know one damn Woman who cares about abortion. Liberals are Perverted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted November 5, 2024 13 minutes ago, League Champion said: More concerned with Abortion rather than the economy, border and World Wars. That's all they care about, WTF with these sick F's How many abortions do their girls have?? Caring about abortion IS caring about the economy! If young women are forced to have children they are unprepared to raise, then THE ECONOMY will have to support them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,538 Posted November 5, 2024 7 minutes ago, peenie said: Caring about abortion IS caring about the economy! If young women are forced to have children they are unprepared to raise, then THE ECONOMY will have to support them. Put them up for adoption. No one is forcing anyone to raise the kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted November 5, 2024 14 minutes ago, Strike said: Put them up for adoption. No one is forcing anyone to raise the kid. Morning after Pill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted November 5, 2024 I’m sensing a lot of mother’s who had unwanted pregnancies pre Roe vibe in here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,191 Posted November 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Strike said: Put them up for adoption. No one is forcing anyone to raise the kid. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted November 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, weepaws said: Agreed. I absolutely support adoption over abortion but the adoption process is complicated and pretty expensive. It doesn't really promote people to adopt babies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted November 5, 2024 Old dudes still telling the broads what to do, taking away things from them. This will go over well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,096 Posted November 5, 2024 51 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Old dudes still telling the broads what to do, taking away things from them. This will go over well Seems like old dudes still telling other dudes what to do with the Selective Service and the draft too. My body, my choice is only for women? GTFO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted November 5, 2024 51 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Old dudes still telling the broads what to do, taking away things from them. This will go over well Old white Liberals acting like they care about Women but support Men in wigs pretending to be Women. Disrespectful to all REAL WOMEN WTF IS HAPPENING??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted November 5, 2024 Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Seems like old dudes still telling other dudes what to do with the Selective Service and the draft too. My body, my choice is only for women? GTFO. You all seem to have a hard time figuring out why women are voting on this issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted November 5, 2024 1 minute ago, League Champion said: Old white Liberals acting like they care about Women but support Men in wigs pretending to be Women. Disrespectful to all REAL WOMEN WTF IS HAPPENING??? These are your issues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,523 Posted November 5, 2024 They've always had the choice to be a whoore or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted November 5, 2024 10 minutes ago, thegeneral said: These are your issues You're "Wife" is probably ok with it but all the Women I know find it insulting that Liberals put Tranny rights ahead of REAL WOMEN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted November 5, 2024 1 minute ago, League Champion said: You're "Wife" is probably ok with it but all the Women I know find it insulting that Liberals put Tranny rights ahead of REAL WOMEN I don’t know what this even means. This issue is somewhere around camera speeding tickets for me. I realize it’s of the utmost importance to you so I encourage you to vote but yeah I don’t really give a shet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,414 Posted November 5, 2024 Can’t they chose Anal? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted November 5, 2024 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Can’t they chose Anal? The option has always been there, “butt” they continue to turn it down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,935 Posted November 6, 2024 I support my wife's and daughter's right to choose. That's why I voted for Trump. Nobody should be forced to inject themselves against their wishes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,191 Posted November 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: I absolutely support adoption over abortion but the adoption process is complicated and pretty expensive. It doesn't really promote people to adopt babies. We started fostering children in 2017, we have fostered over 20 children, we have adopted three, it cost us zero. All it takes is, love,compassion,desire,hard work, and yet not I, But Christ in Me. Very rewarding. Revelation 16:15. Jesus speaking. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watches and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. Indeed Amen Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted November 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, weepaws said: We started fostering children in 2017 Are they hot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted November 6, 2024 41 minutes ago, weepaws said: We started fostering children in 2017, we have fostered over 20 children, we have adopted three, it cost us zero. All it takes is, love,compassion,desire,hard work, and yet not I, But Christ in Me. Very rewarding. Revelation 16:15. Jesus speaking. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watches and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. Indeed Amen Thanks There is a difference between fostering children and adopting a baby. It cost about $20,000 to $40,000 to adopt a baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,258 Posted November 6, 2024 7 hours ago, Fnord said: Federally funded Medicaid and Medicare facilities and Head Start programs were required to have employees vaccinated. This is a no-brainer from a public health perspective. Not when it's an experimental vaccine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,773 Posted November 6, 2024 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: It cost about $20,000 to $40,000 to adopt a baby. That’s ridiculous and really sad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,258 Posted November 6, 2024 3 hours ago, lickin_starfish said: I support my wife's and daughter's right to choose. That's why I voted for Trump. Nobody should be forced to inject themselves against their wishes. Why isn't this as equal of a sticking point as abortion? I don't get it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted November 6, 2024 41 minutes ago, HellToupee said: That’s ridiculous and really sad I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,191 Posted November 6, 2024 If you are truly interested in adopting, call your county’s CPS office, it’s free to adopt through the CPS agency, now you must get licensed, and bio parents still get to improve their lives and reconciliation with their children, and nothing is better than when that indeed takes place, but if the parents cannot reconciliation, and other family members want the children, as the children’s foster family you will be asked if you would be interested, if you say no, then CPS will find a family that would be interested, and then the children will move in with them, but if you answer yes, it takes about 3 months, at no cost. Adoption agencies can charge a lot of money, but want I cannot understand is why some will pay that, when you can serve your local community by becoming a foster parents, and then adopt for no cost. If you need help , let me know, I can help you become a foster parent. James 1:17-20. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and come down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. Of His own will begat He us with the Word of Truth, that we should be a kind of first fruit of His creatures. Wherefore , my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath. For the wrath of man work not the righteousness of God. Indeed Amen Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,258 Posted November 6, 2024 6 hours ago, HellToupee said: That’s ridiculous and really sad Idk. If it was really cheap, it's easier to get these kids into poor conditions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,097 Posted November 6, 2024 Its pretty sad to me that the political priority of grown men is ensuring their daughters can kill their grandchildren. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,545 Posted November 6, 2024 14 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: I absolutely support adoption over abortion but the adoption process is complicated and pretty expensive. It doesn't really promote people to adopt babies. Its so that the government can make money off of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted November 6, 2024 7 hours ago, weepaws said: If you are truly interested in adopting, call your county’s CPS office, it’s free to adopt through the CPS agency, now you must get licensed, and bio parents still get to improve their lives and reconciliation with their children, and nothing is better than when that indeed takes place, but if the parents cannot reconciliation, and other family members want the children, as the children’s foster family you will be asked if you would be interested, if you say no, then CPS will find a family that would be interested, and then the children will move in with them, but if you answer yes, it takes about 3 months, at no cost. Adoption agencies can charge a lot of money, but want I cannot understand is why some will pay that, when you can serve your local community by becoming a foster parents, and then adopt for no cost. If you need help , let me know, I can help you become a foster parent. James 1:17-20. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and come down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. Of His own will begat He us with the Word of Truth, that we should be a kind of first fruit of His creatures. Wherefore , my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath. For the wrath of man work not the righteousness of God. Indeed Amen Thanks There are legal costs to adopting as well. It is not free and it is not a convenient process. If our government wants all unwanted pregnancies to happen then they need to help make it easier for good parents to raise those children. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted November 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: There are legal costs to adopting as well. It is not free and it is not a convenient process. If our government wants all unwanted pregnancies to happen then they need to help make it easier for good parents to raise those children. Its a conundrum. I think the process is expensive and long, but then again anything the government runs will have those two factors in abundance. I wish that process were better and people could more easily use it; though we simply MUST vet out the "bad" people who might do it for the wrong reasons or are otherwise unfit. I think abortion should be accessible to all women. I do not want to pay for it, or help them pay for it. Anyone who does not have the money to pay for a pack of condoms and decides to use abortion as their birth control can pay for their own way......period. But I want women to have access to it, with reasonable restraints. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,414 Posted November 6, 2024 So now Trump and the republicans need to follow through and stay out of the abortion issue. It’s a state issue, let it be so and blunt the democrats from using it as much as they have. Trump will, it’s some republicans in the house I’m concerned with. They need to get on message. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted November 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: Its a conundrum. I think the process is expensive and long, but then again anything the government runs will have those two factors in abundance. I wish that process were better and people could more easily use it; though we simply MUST vet out the "bad" people who might do it for the wrong reasons or are otherwise unfit. I think abortion should be accessible to all women. I do not want to pay for it, or help them pay for it. Anyone who does not have the money to pay for a pack of condoms and decides to use abortion as their birth control can pay for their own way......period. But I want women to have access to it, with reasonable restraints. This has been one of the issues that has bothered me with Republicans. They want to get rid of abortion but have done little to help those unwanted babies after birth. They want to close the border and make it so only immigrants come in legally but do little to make it a quicker process. If you don't want people to abort babies and you don't want illegal immigrants then we should be giving them better options. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites