Death 300 Posted December 2, 2024 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/joe-biden-issue-pardon-son-hunter-biden-rcna182369 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,796 Posted December 2, 2024 Wow. Just wow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,092 Posted December 2, 2024 Had to be done to protect the family. Hunter collected way too much foreign money. Joe couldn't leave office with that time bomb ticking. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,181 Posted December 2, 2024 I don't like it but I'm hoping Joe runs again in 2028 anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted December 2, 2024 Yeah, turns out the left was already or planning on doing EVERYTHING they accused Trump was going to do. What a bunch of corrupt pigs. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted December 2, 2024 Disappointing because he said he wouldn’t. If he hadn’t pledged not to do it I wouldn’t have a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted December 2, 2024 Least he could do. He’s a terrible father. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted December 2, 2024 3 minutes ago, Reality said: Had to be done to protect the family. Hunter collected way too much foreign money. Joe couldn't leave office with that time bomb ticking. Is there anything else they can go after Hunter for? I just can't believe being traitors to the country and they're going to get away with it. What a bunch of corrupt wh0res. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted December 2, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Disappointing because he said he wouldn’t. If he hadn’t pledged not to do it I wouldn’t have a problem. Yeah, cause why should the elites have to take accountability for their transgressions as the average American does. I'm shocked you would be ok with this!!!! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted December 2, 2024 Won’t matter when they all get sent to gitmo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,181 Posted December 2, 2024 1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Is there anything else they can go after Hunter for? I dunno what is outstanding now. With Hunter, even the the money spiggot has dried up, if you wait a few weeks he'll have something new anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted December 2, 2024 3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Is there anything else they can go after Hunter for? I just can't believe being traitors to the country and they're going to get away with it. What a bunch of corrupt wh0res. They've got a whole hard drive full of illegal activity they could go after him for. But they could have gone after HItlery too in Trump's first term and they didn't, so I suspect Trump won't here either. Which is probably the correct thing to do. It's been longstanding policy to not go after previous administrations. While Hunter isn't technically part of the previous administration he's close enough that Trump should probably just let it to, for the good of the country. And because it's the exact OPPOSITE of what Biden did in going after Trump. Let's try to get back to the norms that made this country great for so long. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted December 2, 2024 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Yeah, cause why should the elites have to take accountability for their transgressions as the average American does. I'm shocked you would be ok with this!!!! I’m not OK with it. I don’t like the whole pardon power. I think that any connection between the person pardoned and the President , whether it’s family or someone who worked for the President or a donor, etc, ought to be immune from pardons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted December 2, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: I’m not OK with it. I don’t like the whole pardon power. I think that any connection between the person pardoned and the President , whether it’s family or someone who worked for the President or a donor, etc, ought to be immune from pardons. Sure, pal. You're just like Biden. You talk a good game until confronted with the reality of it. I bet you'd be ok with getting rid of the filibuster if it meant codifying Roe v. Wade and packing the SCOTUS for the same reason. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,010 Posted December 2, 2024 24 pages is my guess 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted December 2, 2024 3 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: 24 pages is my guess Cool, so less than the 52 page "public" letter Hunter's lawyers released yesterday basically begging Joe to pardon him? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/30/hunter-biden-defense-sentencing-pardon/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 559 Posted December 2, 2024 WTF. Even though he said he wouldn't. Somehow I knew he would as his final act. What a f0cking disaster these last 4years are. Christmas is my favorite holiday. But F'it. Lets just get right to January ASAP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,550 Posted December 2, 2024 16 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Is there anything else they can go after Hunter for? I just can't believe being traitors to the country and they're going to get away with it. What a bunch of corrupt wh0res. 12 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I dunno what is outstanding now. With Hunter, even the the money spiggot has dried up, if you wait a few weeks he'll have something new anyways. 11 minutes ago, Strike said: They've got a whole hard drive full of illegal activity they could go after him for. But they could have gone after HItlery too in Trump's first term and they didn't, so I suspect Trump won't here either. Which is probably the correct thing to do. It's been longstanding policy to not go after previous administrations. While Hunter isn't technically part of the previous administration he's close enough that Trump should probably just let it to, for the good of the country. And because it's the exact OPPOSITE of what Biden did in going after Trump. Let's try to get back to the norms that made this country great for so long. No, Joe gave his son a "full and unconditional pardon" for anything he did from 2014 until now. Quote Executive Grant of Clemency Joseph R. Biden, Jr. President of the United States of America To All to Whom These Presents Shall Come, Greeting: Be It Known, That This Day, I, Joseph R. Biden, Jr., President of the United States, Pursuant to My Powers Under Article II, Section 2, Clause 1, of the Constitution, Have Granted Unto ROBERT HUNTER BIDEN A Full and Unconditional Pardon For those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024, including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted (including any that have resulted in convictions) by Special Counsel David C. Weiss in Docket No. 1:23-cr-00061-MN in the United States District Court for the District of Delaware and Docket No. 2:23-CR-00599-MCS-1 in the United States District Court for the Central District of California. IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF I have hereunto signed my name and caused the Pardon to be recorded with the Department of Justice. Done at the City of Washington this 1st day of December in the year of our Lord Two Thousand and Twenty-four and of the Independence of the United States the Two Hundred and Forty-ninth. My initial reaction to the pardon was, meh, a dad pardoning his son, OK. But this "full and unconditional" thing is a bit unsettling. Like, anything he did? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,692 Posted December 2, 2024 There will be worse pardons before 1/20/25. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,659 Posted December 2, 2024 It's good to be king Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted December 2, 2024 So he may have been committing crimes in the last year? Last week? Wow. You would think taking it up until today wouldn’t be necessary. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted December 2, 2024 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: No, Joe gave his son a "full and unconditional pardon" for anything he did from 2014 until now. My initial reaction to the pardon was, meh, a dad pardoning his son, OK. But this "full and unconditional" thing is a bit unsettling. Like, anything he did? Thanks. For some reason I was under the impression that you could only pardon for things a person was actually convicted of. That seems reasonable. It is VERY unsettling to know he can give anyone he wants a blanket pardon. But @The Real timschochet would be ok with that as long as he didn't say he wouldn't do it before doing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted December 2, 2024 Clinton and Obamas pardons are way worse. This isn’t even close to the murderous terrorists that they pardoned. Also, no weeping about Jan 6 pardons. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,181 Posted December 2, 2024 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: No, Joe gave his son a "full and unconditional pardon" for anything he did from 2014 until now. My initial reaction to the pardon was, meh, a dad pardoning his son, OK. But this "full and unconditional" thing is a bit unsettling. Like, anything he did? My point was that Hunter is Hunter. He may be in the clear today but give him a few weeks and he'll step in the poop again. This Biden isn't changing his spots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 322 Posted December 2, 2024 Trump should pardon everyone from January 6th on day one. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,505 Posted December 2, 2024 5 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said: Trump should pardon everyone from January 6th on day one. And Derek Chauvin 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,598 Posted December 2, 2024 Wow I didn’t think he would do this. Too bad @Horseman never shared the discord screenshots from the Georgia shooter or else he could have won some money from me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted December 2, 2024 So question for our lib friends here at the GC - Worms, the Timmay's, Honcho, etc.... - Do you think Joe was telling the truth for the last 4+ years when he said he would not pardon Hunter and just changed his mind or do you think he intended to pardon him if needed the entire time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 361 Posted December 2, 2024 4 minutes ago, Strike said: So question for our lib friends here at the GC - Worms, the Timmay's, Honcho, etc.... - Do you think Joe was telling the truth for the last 4+ years when he said he would not pardon Hunter and just changed his mind or do you think he intended to pardon him if needed the entire time? I think for 3 years and about 7 months he probably was telling the truth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,092 Posted December 2, 2024 Such a specific time period covered by the pardon. It's like Joe knew exactly when the crimes began. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted December 2, 2024 15 minutes ago, Strike said: So question for our lib friends here at the GC - Worms, the Timmay's, Honcho, etc.... - Do you think Joe was telling the truth for the last 4+ years when he said he would not pardon Hunter and just changed his mind or do you think he intended to pardon him if needed the entire time? No idea. It doesn’t matter, he broke his word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted December 2, 2024 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: No idea. It doesn’t matter, he broke his word. It does matter. Because if he lied about this he likely lied about many other things. And I don't believe you don't have an opinion on this. You have an opinion on EVERYTHING. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted December 2, 2024 Libs still think they’re the good guys. lol. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,115 Posted December 2, 2024 Gun and tax charges. Meh. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,889 Posted December 2, 2024 https://media.scored.co/scale/5YxgT3U3RHGf51Q1.jpeg "No one is above the law." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,598 Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, zsasz said: I think for 3 years and about 7 months he probably was telling the truth. So you’re saying he was not OK with dropping out of the race and is mad they replaced him with Kamala? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted December 2, 2024 Nothing about this surprises me, including Tim’s idiotic take on it. Six times - six - that lying sack of shitt Karine Jean-Pierre said that iden would NOT pardon Hunter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted December 2, 2024 46 minutes ago, Strike said: It does matter. Because if he lied about this he likely lied about many other things. And I don't believe you don't have an opinion on this. You have an opinion on EVERYTHING. It really doesn’t tell me anything else. And honestly no I don’t have an opinion. Lately I’ve been trying to divide political news into two categories: the first category deals with issues that will affect some of us or a lot of us: tariffs, immigration, crime, abortion, even the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East. I’m very much interested in discussing those issues. The other category is basically corruption. Both sides always accuse the other side of having committed actual crimes. Sometimes the charges are genuine; often they are overblown. I’m just not that interested, truly. If Trump does things I like then I will ignore most of this stuff. Same for Biden. My liberal friends have argued with me about this: they honestly believe that Donald Trump has committed numerous crimes and our justice system is meaningless unless he pays the price for them. I see their point but I disagree. The past couple of years have demonstrated that it is virtually impossible to hold a former President to account. But that doesn’t destroy the system, it just makes it meaningless for a former President. So I really want to move on from this stuff. No more court cases. Not for a Trump not for Biden. I really hope there is no new story over the next couple of years, no impeachment, etc. Let’s address our problems. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted December 2, 2024 6 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: Nothing about this surprises me, including Tim’s idiotic take on it. Why do you find my take idiotic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,598 Posted December 2, 2024 This was obviously a hypocritical thing for Joe to do. Definitely feel justified in not voting for either him or his VP. But weird that Elon Musk is making a ton of comments about it though IMO, dude’s a giant hypocrite including like Biden doing things he specifically said he wouldn’t do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites