Las Vegas tourism slumps this summer, signaling trouble for U.S. economy

[edjr 6,681]

 

[Maximum Overkill 2,151]

Vegas is a toilet. You can find me on an Island. 

[thegeneral 3,323]

Trump’s America.

Time to talk about burning the flag!

[Maximum Overkill 2,151]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Trump’s America.

Time to talk about burning the flag!

Key details about Las Vegas Mayor Shelley Berkley:

Elected: November 2024 

Party: Democratic Party 

[Ron_Artest 1,725]

We're the hottest country in the world.

Fake news.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,243]

38 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Key details about Las Vegas Mayor Shelley Berkley:

Elected: November 2024 

Party: Democratic Party 

Once again, Democrat cities. 

[The Elevator Killer 658]

This never happened when Elvis had a residency. 

[patweisers44 856]

I am doing my part to prop it up.  I am sure @Bert is as well.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,581]

They did away with Comps and jacked the price up. Not hard to figure out. 

[edjr 6,681]

Also Oakland A’s not going to Las Vegas

[listen2me 23 1,906]

With everyone online gambling I never thought Vegas would skip a beat.  

[Drizzay 727]

I have never been.  Can't vouch.

[seafoam1 3,204]

56 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

With everyone online gambling I never thought Vegas would skip a beat.  

Some people just can't see reality happening before. 

Next up, OMG, some brick and mortar stores are closing!!   Gee, I wonder why....?

[Sandy Loam 237]

2 hours ago, Drizzay said:

I have never been.  Can't vouch.

I have been a few times. Great food. Great entertainment. Great spectacle. I only do a little bit of gambling. I'd rather go to a world-class restaurant, go see a Cirque show and get some free drinks while playing video poker. I do like the video roulette as well. 

[edjr 6,681]

8 hours ago, Sandy Loam said:

I do like the roulette as well. 

Isn’t that how you pick an alias?

[TimHauck 3,027]

@edjr has been wishing for the economy to crash for like 7 years just so that he could get a discount on a house 

[zsasz 369]

Wonder if they're going to have to pivot back to the Treasure Island "Vegas is for Families" instead of "What happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas"?

[Cdub100 3,957]

I keep seeing how stupid expensive Vegas is. 

[edjr 6,681]

The rumor was they were turning the old Tropicana Spot into the new baseball stadium. Not happening now.

By the way. Please tell me how a hotel/casino fails in Las Vegas?    Sure it was outdated. I have an idea. Maybe update it?   

[thegeneral 3,323]

19 minutes ago, edjr said:

The rumor was they were turning the old Tropicana Spot into the new baseball stadium. Not happening now.

By the way. Please tell me how a hotel/casino fails in Las Vegas?    Sure it was outdated. I have an idea. Maybe update it?   

Ask Trump about losing money owning a casino!

[edjr 6,681]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Ask Trump about losing money owning a casino!

closed Atlantic City casinos

• Sands Hotel and Casino: Closed in 2006.
• Playboy Hotel and Casino: Closed in 1984.
• Atlantis Hotel and Casino: Closed in 1989.
• Trump World's Fair at Trump Plaza: Closed in 1999.
• Atlantic Club Casino Hotel: Closed in 2014.
• Revel Casino Hotel: Opened in 2012 and closed just two years later in 2014. The building was later sold and reopened as the Ocean Casino Resort in 2018.
• Showboat Resort Atlantic City: Closed in 2014 but later reopened as a hotel-only property.
• Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino: Closed in 2014 and was later demolished.
• Trump Taj Mahal: Closed in 2016. It was later purchased and reopened as the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Atlantic City in 2018. 

[Fnord 2,316]

15 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They did away with Comps and jacked the price up. Not hard to figure out. 

True to form, you're only about 20 years behind in this brilliant observation.

[Sandy Loam 237]

2 hours ago, edjr said:

Isn’t that how you pick an alias?

Not anymore. I'll ride this one into the ground.

[patweisers44 856]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

The rumor was they were turning the old Tropicana Spot into the new baseball stadium. Not happening now.

By the way. Please tell me how a hotel/casino fails in Las Vegas?    Sure it was outdated. I have an idea. Maybe update it?   

Where did you hear this? Last i read is they might be cutting it close having stadium done by opener in 2028, but nothing like the deal is dead.

[edjr 6,681]

6 minutes ago, patweisers44 said:

Where did you hear this? Last i read is they might be cutting it close having stadium done by opener in 2028, but nothing like the deal is dead.

They were talking about it on the local radio station here. How the whole ground breaking thing was fake and Vegas is dying and they are the A's. Who would want this to happen at this point?

 

From AI

 

The move is considered highly controversial and has generated significant criticism, particularly towards Athletics owner John Fisher. While the team is officially on track to move to Las Vegas in 2028, the financial aspects and potential ongoing opposition mean that the situation remains somewhat fluid. 

[Hawkeye21 2,421]

It use to be an inexpensive trip, unless you lost a lot gambling.  A bundled flight and hotel could be a great deal.  No one wants to spend a bunch of money while knowing they are probably going to lose more gambling on top of that.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,581]

Vegas was slumping 20 years ago?

[patweisers44 856]

I go at least a couple times a year. My son is getting married out there in October.  Flights are a little more expensive lately, but thats the same no matter where you are flying to.  I dont pay for rooms or for a good chunk of my meals either.  Admittedly, I do gamble quite a bit.

 

Food is world class, pools and spas are nice if thats your thing, and the entertainment (@ all price levels) is top notch.  People watching is great as well.  I am an early riser (especially with adjusting to a three hour time change headed west and at least one day will be up and watching the partiers ending their days as mine is beginning.  Think young chicks in short, tight dresses carrying their shoes and helping each other walk back to their room.

Its not for everyone, but worth a trip every so often for anyone with at least half a pulse.

[Bier Meister 1,732]

3 hours ago, Fnord said:

True to form, you're only about 20 years behind in this brilliant observation.

not really. there has been a dramatic spike post covid

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It use to be an inexpensive trip, unless you lost a lot gambling.  A bundled flight and hotel could be a great deal.  No one wants to spend a bunch of money while knowing they are probably going to lose more gambling on top of that.

this

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Vegas was slumping 20 years ago?

maybe a small dip when before changing market strategy to appeal more to families

[Fnord 2,316]

9 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

not really. there has been a dramatic spike post covid

I'll take your word for it. I haven't been in almost 15 years, but went a bunch in the aughts. It was never inexpensive. You could get some deals, sure, but I remember going in 2007 with just my wife for 3-4 days (by car so no airfare) and dropping a few grand while basically breaking even gambling (down about $200). Even back then tickets to a couple shows, a few nice meals, booze, and a helicopter/ limo ride racked up that tab.

I've never seen cheap Vegas.

[edjr 6,681]

1 hour ago, patweisers44 said:

I go at least a couple times a year. My son is getting married out there in October.  Flights are a little more expensive lately, but thats the same no matter where you are flying to.  I dont pay for rooms or for a good chunk of my meals either.  Admittedly, I do gamble quite a bit.

 

Food is world class, pools and spas are nice if thats your thing, and the entertainment (@ all price levels) is top notch.  People watching is great as well.  I am an early riser (especially with adjusting to a three hour time change headed west and at least one day will be up and watching the partiers ending their days as mine is beginning.  Think young chicks in short, tight dresses carrying their shoes and helping each other walk back to their room.

Its not for everyone, but worth a trip every so often for anyone with at least half a pulse.

I got married in Vegas, October 2008 

[Fnord 2,316]

7 minutes ago, edjr said:

I got married in Vegas, October 2008 

Did you meet the wife while on the same trip?

[supermike80 1,980]

Meh.....So many cities/states have casinos now.  Plus, Vegas is crazy expensive.   I like to gamble and have absolutely zero desire to go there ever again.  

[edjr 6,681]

8 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Did you meet the wife while on the same trip?

    No. We had been dating for 4 years, on and off for 8

[TheNewGirl 1,540]

15 hours ago, Sandy Loam said:

I have been a few times. Great food. Great entertainment. Great spectacle. I only do a little bit of gambling. I'd rather go to a world-class restaurant, go see a Cirque show and get some free drinks while playing video poker. I do like the video roulette as well. 

This is really the only way to do Vegas and pretty much what we do when we go there. 

 

ETA: The prices in Vegas have gone up exponentially. Paying to park AT the hotel you're staying at can be up to $50/night. Bottles of water are $15. Not to mention the price of food, events, cocktails, etc. It's no longer a place for families (not that it ever has been, but still). 

 

[Bier Meister 1,732]

2 hours ago, Fnord said:

I'll take your word for it. I haven't been in almost 15 years, but went a bunch in the aughts. It was never inexpensive. You could get some deals, sure, but I remember going in 2007 with just my wife for 3-4 days (by car so no airfare) and dropping a few grand while basically breaking even gambling (down about $200). Even back then tickets to a couple shows, a few nice meals, booze, and a helicopter/ limo ride racked up that tab.

I've never seen cheap Vegas.

until covid, i was going a couple of times a year. My experience is that lodging, budget food, drinks, table limits, and comps have changed dramatically.

our group had diverse interests. i am not a huge gambler, but would do a little here and there.

i like the pools and restaurants, and when there with the mrs shows. I always accounted for food and shows to have a high cost (and would find  discounts on shows now and then). over the past few years the lodging hike made me considered different destinations due to value.

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8 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

until covid, i was going a couple of times a year. My experience is that lodging, budget food, drinks, table limits, and comps have changed dramatically.

our group had diverse interests. i am not a huge gambler, but would do a little here and there.

i like the pools and restaurants, and when there with the mrs shows. I always accounted for food and shows to have a high cost (and would find  discounts on shows now and then). over the past few years the lodging hike made me considered different destinations due to value.

That's too bad. I want to go to The Sphere when there is an artist I want to go see. Haven't been interested in anything so far. I didn't give a shat about The Eagles when they were in their prime. 

I've got a free place to stay out there, with a guy who really knows Vegas and used to do bus tours as a living.

[Bier Meister 1,732]

i mean.. i didn't go crazy.. would stay at venetian/palazo, bellagio, mgm, mandalay bay. all were very reasonable imo. over the past few years it seems 1.5-2x the price. i would check to see if there were big events or conventions, but nothing unusual to drive the cost up. made more sense to go to carmel/monterrey/capitola or lake tahoe

[edjr 6,681]

4 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

This is really the only way to do Vegas and pretty much what we do when we go there. 

 

ETA: The prices in Vegas have gone up exponentially. Paying to park AT the hotel you're staying at can be up to $50/night. Bottles of water are $15. Not to mention the price of food, events, cocktails, etc. It's no longer a place for families (not that it ever has been, but still). 

 

who drives in vegas?

[nobody 2,733]

9 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

I keep seeing how stupid expensive Vegas is. 

Yep.  I used to go to vegas three times a year.  I've probably been twice since they started tacking on their "resort fee" bullshìt 15 or so years ago and it's only gotten worse.