drobeski 3,061 Posted December 9, 2016 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/12/08/heroin-deaths-surpass-gun-homicides-for-the-first-time-cdc-data-show/?utm_term=.360b2b13fb57 Should we ban it ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted December 9, 2016 So much for non violent drug offenders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted December 9, 2016 Heroin is stilla big problem, buy Ox and some of the newer stuff is taking over, ruining entire towns......just amazing the damage this stuff is doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted December 9, 2016 Heroin is stilla big problem, buy Ox and some of the newer stuff is taking over, ruining entire towns......just amazing the damage this stuff is doing. Around here it's meth. It destroys people. Another thing people are making is called Shatter. They mix butane with weed. If you see someone buying butane that's prolly what they be doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 1,916 Posted December 9, 2016 A boss I had and my accountant both lost their sons to heroin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted December 9, 2016 Around here it's meth. It destroys people. Another thing people are making is called Shatter. They mix butane with weed. If you see someone buying butane that's prolly what they be doing. shatter is another horrible product, the same product can be made using a cool press without butane. Its more costly up front to produce, but is pure as concentrate can be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 9, 2016 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/12/08/heroin-deaths-surpass-gun-homicides-for-the-first-time-cdc-data-show/?utm_term=.360b2b13fb57 Should we ban it ? No, we should regulate it and leave it in the hands of idiots. That works well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted December 9, 2016 Not to worry! Obama has released hundreds of drug dealers to fill the consumer demand. Hundreds more will be released in the next month to satisfy any future demand.j Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 9, 2016 Not to worry! Obama has released hundreds of drug dealers to fill the consumer demand. Sure, blame the dealers once they were jailed, heroin sales dried right up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted December 9, 2016 Sure, blame the dealers once they were jailed, heroin sales dried right up! We need to go full Duterte on they a$$es. Instead of a war on drugs we need a war on drug dealers. They'll get the message sooner or later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 9, 2016 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/12/08/heroin-deaths-surpass-gun-homicides-for-the-first-time-cdc-data-show/?utm_term=.360b2b13fb57 Should we ban it ? Not sure why comparing the two is relevant, but heroin is already illegal, isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted December 9, 2016 I don't know the answer. But I fail to see how making a drug so easy and quickly to get hooked on, legal a good idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted December 9, 2016 I don't know the answer. But I fail to see how making a drug so easy and quickly to get hooked on, legal a good idea. Drug companies have well-funded lobbyists, that's how. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 9, 2016 I don't know the answer. But I fail to see how making a drug so easy and quickly to get hooked on, legal a good idea. ever hear of Methadone? yeah and it's free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted December 9, 2016 They should open heroin stores. Make it safe to purchase, like guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 9, 2016 They should open heroin stores. Make it safe to purchase, like guns. Would kill way less people. probably 90% and you can't kill someone else with heroin, only yourself. too bad guns dont do the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,643 Posted December 9, 2016 Sure, blame the dealers once they were jailed, heroin sales dried right up! Most of those were crack dealers. And yes, supply did diminish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 9, 2016 Most of those were crack dealers. And yes, supply did diminish. crack is whack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted December 9, 2016 I've never tried heroin, but it always makes me laugh when I think about how Eddie Murphy pronounced it when he was imitating his (mom?) "Are you on the Hair-OR-ron?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 9, 2016 We need to go full Duterte on they a$$es. Instead of a war on drugs we need a war on drug dealers. They'll get the message sooner or later.yep ..someone dies from your product you're charged with murder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 9, 2016 yep ..someone dies from your product you're charged with murder. like the gun sellers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted December 9, 2016 yep ..someone dies from your product you're charged with murder. My son is currently in recovery, awaiting a bed at a long term rehab facility. his girlfriend nearly OD'ed earlier this year (my son and the girlfriends mother had to revive her) and if she had died the officer that responded told my son that he could have been charged (as the one that purchased the drugs) with something similar to manslaughter. I don't know if that's BS or not, but its what he said anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted December 9, 2016 Obama has this under control. President Obama has ordered his intelligence agencies to conduct a review of hacking during the 2016 presidential election and present their findings before he leaves office, a top adviser said Friday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted December 9, 2016 My son is currently in recovery, awaiting a bed at a long term rehab facility. his girlfriend nearly OD'ed earlier this year (my son and the girlfriends mother had to revive her) and if she had died the officer that responded told my son that he could have been charged (as the one that purchased the drugs) with something similar to manslaughter. I don't know if that's BS or not, but its what he said anyway. Best of luck man. That sucks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted December 9, 2016 My son is currently in recovery, awaiting a bed at a long term rehab facility. his girlfriend nearly OD'ed earlier this year (my son and the girlfriends mother had to revive her) and if she had died the officer that responded told my son that he could have been charged (as the one that purchased the drugs) with something similar to manslaughter. I don't know if that's BS or not, but its what he said anyway.Your son and his GF are both smackheads? Maybe let kids know drugs are bad sometime in the youth? It's pretty much a lost cause, junkies are gonna do junk. Maybe not a day after rehab, maybe not a month, but they will do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,643 Posted December 9, 2016 My son is currently in recovery, awaiting a bed at a long term rehab facility. his girlfriend nearly OD'ed earlier this year (my son and the girlfriends mother had to revive her) and if she had died the officer that responded told my son that he could have been charged (as the one that purchased the drugs) with something similar to manslaughter. I don't know if that's BS or not, but its what he said anyway.Best of luck man. I hope he comes through ok. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted December 9, 2016 My son is currently in recovery, awaiting a bed at a long term rehab facility. his girlfriend nearly OD'ed earlier this year (my son and the girlfriends mother had to revive her) and if she had died the officer that responded told my son that he could have been charged (as the one that purchased the drugs) with something similar to manslaughter. I don't know if that's BS or not, but its what he said anyway. Really sorry to hear of these challenges for your family, I wish you well..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted December 9, 2016 My son is currently in recovery, awaiting a bed at a long term rehab facility. his girlfriend nearly OD'ed earlier this year (my son and the girlfriends mother had to revive her) and if she had died the officer that responded told my son that he could have been charged (as the one that purchased the drugs) with something similar to manslaughter. I don't know if that's BS or not, but its what he said anyway. That's horrible, best of luck to those kids and you all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 9, 2016 My son is currently in recovery, awaiting a bed at a long term rehab facility. his girlfriend nearly OD'ed earlier this year (my son and the girlfriends mother had to revive her) and if she had died the officer that responded told my son that he could have been charged (as the one that purchased the drugs) with something similar to manslaughter. I don't know if that's BS or not, but its what he said anyway. my step bro (48) was a junkie since 25, been to rehab, jail, everything. just threw 3 years clean down the pisser last week (rough time of year, his bro died 2 years ago 2 days after xmas in a single car crash) eta: that is not true. they would only charge him if she died and he left her there and did nothing. They always charge the dealer (if your son had not given up the dealer, they may have throw him in jail) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted December 9, 2016 My son is currently in recovery, awaiting a bed at a long term rehab facility. his girlfriend nearly OD'ed earlier this year (my son and the girlfriends mother had to revive her) and if she had died the officer that responded told my son that he could have been charged (as the one that purchased the drugs) with something similar to manslaughter. I don't know if that's BS or not, but its what he said anyway. Sorry to hear man. Hope he's successful in rehab. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted December 9, 2016 My son is currently in recovery, awaiting a bed at a long term rehab facility. his girlfriend nearly OD'ed earlier this year (my son and the girlfriends mother had to revive her) and if she had died the officer that responded told my son that he could have been charged (as the one that purchased the drugs) with something similar to manslaughter. I don't know if that's BS or not, but its what he said anyway. Sorry to hear about the challenges with your son. Ts and Ps 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted December 9, 2016 My son is currently in recovery, awaiting a bed at a long term rehab facility. his girlfriend nearly OD'ed earlier this year (my son and the girlfriends mother had to revive her) and if she had died the officer that responded told my son that he could have been charged (as the one that purchased the drugs) with something similar to manslaughter. I don't know if that's BS or not, but its what he said anyway. That's awful, I'm sorry to hear that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted December 9, 2016 Whatever happened to a little bit of weed, mushrooms, maybe some coke like in the good ole days? I mean damn.....this scares me having two little kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 9, 2016 Whatever happened to a little bit of weed, mushrooms, maybe some coke like in the good ole days? I mean damn.....this scares me having two little kids. a lot of it starts with prescription pills (in the kitchen) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted December 9, 2016 Obama has this under control. President Obama has ordered his intelligence agencies to conduct a review of hacking during the 2016 presidential election and present their findings before he leaves office, a top adviser said Friday. Have you drowned in a pool of aids yet? Because, those nursing homes have some cute aides, and I'm sure they'd be happy to help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted December 10, 2016 why is this OK? * Nearly 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women9) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the fourth leading preventable cause of death in the United States. * In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities) https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted December 12, 2016 why is this OK? * Nearly 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women9) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the fourth leading preventable cause of death in the United States. * In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities)https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics Crickets The drinkers don't like the facts on the real problem in America. They would rather attack the drug user and gun owner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted December 12, 2016 why is this OK? * Nearly 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women9) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the fourth leading preventable cause of death in the United States. * In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities) https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics let's ban Alcohol, it works well for drugs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites