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If you would start a NFL team from scratch...

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Every player is available. You need to fill out a whole 53 man roster. Who would be your first 5 picks?

 

Here's mine:

 

1. Peyton Manning

2. Jake Long

3. Adrian Peterson

4. Derrell Revis

5. Clay Mathews

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Danny Marino - Guessing 55 TD's with Rice.

Jon Ogden - 11 Pro-bowls, dude is kinda good.

Deion Sanders - takes away half the field.

Reggie White - Sacks the QB when he doesn't get a pass away to the side of the field where Deion ain't.

Jerry Rice - Rice Catches about 26 of them.

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Aaron Rodgers

Ndamukong Suh

Adrian Peterson

Joe Thomas

Darrelle Revis (or D Ware)

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Peyton is old news if you are starting a team. Rodgers is the new kid on the block and here to stay.

 

Foster is not a dynamic back. Put him on St Loius and his stats would pale compared to what Sjax has made out of that mess.

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Offense:

 

QB Peyton Manning (not a system QB)

RB Adrian Peterson

WR Andre Johnson (best WR in NFL)

WR Calvin Johnson

WR Desean jackson (speed demon)

 

(3 wides all day and gash em with the draw with AD)

 

 

LB Ray Lewis

FS Ed Reed

FS Sean Taylor (RIP)

LB Pat Willis

DL Freeney

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Aaron Rodgers

Ndamukong Suh

Patrick Willis

Joe Thomas/Jake Long (flip a coin)

Haloti Ngata

 

Willis is awesome. I'd never take a RB because they're dime-a-dozen. No safety jumps out and I don't think it's a position you *need* to be elite at to win... Reed and Polamalu are great, but they're both older and battled injuries last year. I think taking a QB is pretty obvious and Rodgers is young and will be HOF-caliber for years. Having Revis or Asomugha is nice, but I think a strong D-line is a huge priority. I'm tempted to take a WR (probably Megatron over Andre Johnson because he's bigger/taller freak-of-nature and 5 years younger) over an OL just because I think 1 great OL with 4 other crappy OL won't make much of a difference, but I'll assume the rest of the line is average.

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Peyton is old news if you are starting a team. Rodgers is the new kid on the block and here to stay.

 

Foster is not a dynamic back. Put him on St Loius and his stats would pale compared to what Sjax has made out of that mess.

 

:thumbsup:

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Haloti Ngata

Suh

Mario Williams

Clay Matthews

Patrick Willis

 

Have fun lining up against that offenses.

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Went with a combination of youth, position importance, scarcity, and longevity. Almost all of these guys will be playing 10 years from now.

 

Aaron Rodgers - I don't need to take a Calvin Johnson if I have Rodgers

Joe Thomas - gotta protect my QB

Ndamukong Suh - dominant pass/run stopping d-lineman who strikes fear into everyone

Darrell Revis - shutdown corner

Clay Matthews - great passrushing versatile LB

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well, considering that draft dynamics would make it extremely difficult to target specific players, i'd focus on position groups modified by BPA. my ideal would look something like:

 

1: left tackle

2: LCB

3: pass rush specialist (RDE for 4-3, or ROLB for 3-4)

4: RB

5: QB

 

so yeah...my dream 5 would be similar to everyone else's.

 

-joe thomas

-revis

-suh or ware

-ADP

-rodgers

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Peyton is old news if you are starting a team. Rodgers is the new kid on the block and here to stay.

 

Foster is not a dynamic back. Put him on St Loius and his stats would pale compared to what Sjax has made out of that mess.

 

:thumbsdown:

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Aaron Rodgers

Jake Long

Jahri Evans

Haloti Ngata

Ndamukong Suh

 

Something like this, but replacing Jake Long and Jahri Evans with Joe Thomas and Maurkice Pouncey.

 

Actually, if I could have top 8, it would be Rodgers, Thomas, Long, Pouncey, Ngata, Suh, Revis and Patrick Willis. Give me 2 more, and add Asomogha and Calvin Johnson (or Fitz). I could run for 1000 yards behind Thomas, Pouncey and Long, so RB is unnecessary. What a team!

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Peyton is old news if you are starting a team. Rodgers is the new kid on the block and here to stay.

 

Foster is not a dynamic back. Put him on St Loius and his stats would pale compared to what Sjax has made out of that mess.

 

Apparently you didnt watch football last season. Even though foster had a solid o line and vonta leach he was a highlight real all season. To just assume he is not dynamic because it was his first year doing it shows how blind you are to talent. People who actually need help dont need bad advice from you.

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Tough call between Rivers and Rodgers

 

QB Aaron Rodgers (best young QB in the game)

OL Jake Long (need a young LT to protect my QB)

CB Darrelle Revis (taking away each teams top option in the pass game)

LB Clay Mathews (rushing the passer is important in the pass happy NFL)

DL Ndamukong Suh (more pass rush and run stuff)

 

going 3 players on defense because i believe in building through defense first. A great QB opens everything up on offense regardless of who your RB's or WR's are.

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Okay. I hear what players you want. But if you play fair where there are 31 other teams selecting THEIR get started team and you just go by which positions are most important; this is the order I select:

 

1. OLT

2. OLB

3. RB

4. MLB

5. WR

6. CB

7. QB

8. Safety

9. OC

10. NT

then I fill in the O & D Lines

and then all the other positions, including Returners

then PK

then P

then Coach (cause I am the GM)

then popcorn machine (cause you need popcorn, am I right?)

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Okay. I hear what players you want. But if you play fair where there are 31 other teams selecting THEIR get started team and you just go by which positions are most important; this is the order I select:

 

1. OLT

2. OLB

3. RB

4. MLB

5. WR

6. CB

7. QB

8. Safety

9. OC

10. NT

then I fill in the O & D Lines

and then all the other positions, including Returners

then PK

then P

then Coach (cause I am the GM)

then popcorn machine (cause you need popcorn, am I right?)

 

can't really agree with any of this. I'm ok with OLT first but RB 3rd? look at the nature of the NFL and to an extent fantasy and look how many teams work great with a RB tandem for me to ever make RB that high of a priority. The shelf life is short and guys come out of nowhere like Foster or Hillis.

 

with the scarcity of true shutdown CB's, i have to take that sooner than 6th.

 

and if you pick your QB 7th, after all 31 teams have had 6+ rounds to select, good luck with Tavaris Jackson.

 

The OLB could be a defensive end... just has to be "elite pass rusher" imo.

 

MLB? I'll pass that high. Lewis is almost done and Ulacher is on the downside so unless you're getting Willis or maybe Mayo, id rather just wait a while and pick from a plethora of solid tacklers.

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I more or less agree with the consensus so far. QB, OL, CB, and pass-rushers. I don't think there's much question about Rodgers/Thomas or Long/Revis, but for rushers I could see arguments for Suh, Mathews, Jared Allen, Ware, even Charles Johnson, who's very young and very good. You don't find a whole lot of elite 20something defensive ends. Maybe give him another year to make sure he's got some longevity.

 

I do think you can be creative with pass rush in the NFL, and I do think there are a lot of very strong QBs, so in a world where it's actually a full draft I'd probably be taking my LT and CB first.

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1. Manning -- he is older but can give you 3 years at top level - an basically get you to the playoffs every year on his own - starting a franchise you need to hit the ground running.

2. Best O line man out there

3. Best D lineman out there

4. Best O lineman out there

5. Best D line man out there

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1. Manning -- he is older but can give you 3 years at top level - an basically get you to the playoffs every year on his own - starting a franchise you need to hit the ground running. passing ;)

2. Best O line man out there

3. Best D lineman out there

4. Best O lineman out there

5. Best D line man out there

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if it was for one year only, age being less of a concern ill go with A-Rod, Andre, Calvin, Revis, Woodson... since this is a FF board, im sticking to positions that have some bearing.

 

in a dynasty or keeper i would go with more of a Sam Bradford, AJ Green, Suh, Julio and J Charles.

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QB - A.Rodgers

DL - D.Ware

DL - N.Suh

DL - H.Ngata

LB - C.Mathews

 

then focus on O-Line

can plug in any old RB, WR, ILB, CB with these guys

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sounds like we should do a draft here. haha

 

There were a couple years of "scratch, fantasy league drafts" or whatever you want to call them. The problem is, you put all the time and effort into drafting a team, then....nothing.

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anyone who drafts a QB 1st in this has already lost, there are at least 10 elite QB's out there capable of leading a team to a championship

 

me personally I go O-line and OLB and run a 3-4. I also get a big strong NT that can take a ton of double teams, allowing my OLB to rush the QB.

 

so I go

 

NT, OLB, CB, LT, QB

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anyone who drafts a QB 1st in this has already lost, there are at least 10 elite QB's out there capable of leading a team to a championship

 

me personally I go O-line and OLB and run a 3-4. I also get a big strong NT that can take a ton of double teams, allowing my OLB to rush the QB.

 

so I go

 

NT, OLB, CB, LT, QB

 

so you would go nose tackle in a 3-4--a gap filler whose job it is to keep OLmen off the playmaking LBs--for your first pick? and you dismiss those who would pick a QB?

 

interesting.

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Apparently you didnt watch football last season. Even though foster had a solid o line and vonta leach he was a highlight real all season. To just assume he is not dynamic because it was his first year doing it shows how blind you are to talent. People who actually need help dont need bad advice from you.

 

I am a big UT fan. I watched every college game Foster ever played. I've seen a lot of great backs come through UT, and Foster ain't one of em. At least he wasn't then. He's no Jamal Lewis, or Travis Henry. Hell, I was never even sure he was the best back on his college team.

 

Now maybe he turned in on to a new gear in the pro's, but I don't see this dude being a stud for long. Serviceable, maybe, but he's no HOF caliber talent.

 

Just my $0.02

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If I was starting an NFL team from scratch, I wouldn't take anyone over the age of 26-27 for my first five picks.

 

1. Sam Bradford

2. Jake Long

3. Ndom Suh

4. Patrick Willis

5. AJ Green

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rodgers

peterson

megatron

revis

c. matthews

 

First five names that came to mind when I thought "young and elite at their position." But a RB with 4 years of wear is probably a bad move, and there's a good argument to be made that Rodgers doesn't need an elite WR, so probably swapping one or both of those two with Suh or Ngata and an LT would be smart. Not going to spend too much time thinking about it though. :)

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