Is God Real?

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

I just dont see it. I mean i want to believe because the thought of dying and never seeing my wife again is a bit depressing, but wanting to believe doesnt make me believe. Every time i try to understand what is being preached it all ends up seeming fake and made up.

[Voltaire 5,316]

God is real to some folks, but not to others.

[shotsup 832]

[montana 89]

I'm here arent I?

[Frank M 181]

I believe God is real. I think religion is bunk.

 

A person who wants to find God needs to find him/her/it/whatever by himself. Once someone else tries to show you the way, you haven't found God, you've been given their god.

[cribdog 0]

Yes he is. He is the one that is running the simulation of our world. Hopefully he won't delete us.

 

http://www.space.com/18932-are-we-living-in-a-computer-simulation.html

 

[Bruce Benedict 0]

He's real, and He gave us guns, to shoot liberals and mooslims.

[rholio 339]

I haven't met Him yet, but I believe I will some day.

[drobeski 3,061]

He's real, and He gave us guns, to shoot liberals and mooslims.

Aka the devil

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Like was said, God is real to some. And that is basically what its all about. If you believe then he is real.

 

If you are talking about facts then no, not at all. If you truly believe in the stories as history and not hyperboles and lessons then you are just a looney fock.

[BiPolarBear 485]

No, but there are plenty of religious kooks who think they got born into the only religion that knows the true god. That makes the wack-o's über dangerous.

[phan a tic 6]

And in the beginning man created God.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

Yes he is. He is the one that is running the simulation of our world. Hopefully he won't delete us.

 

http://www.space.com/18932-are-we-living-in-a-computer-simulation.html

 

I think I got a boner reading that. Thank you.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhcxffIENBU

 

Long watch. But this guy is interesting as hell if you are into space. First 10 minutes are commercials. Picks up at about the 25 min mark. From us going to the moon, multi-universes, to aliens.

 

Don't label me as a Joe Rogan weirdo! But some of his guests are pretty good.

[The Next Generation 10]

As real as you can imagine him/her/it to be.

[Little Rusty 18]

Is God Real?

I personally don't understand how any intelligent human being could doubt a Creator.

 

There's absolutely NO WAY anything in life could miraculously come together to witness sunshine or a breath of air let alone ask a question such as yours without Intelligent Design.

 

The How & Why are the questions we need to ask.

[mobb_deep 920]

The christian god is impossible to be real, because the entire story makes absolutely zero sense, from pretty much page 1.

 

Adam and Eve were the first humans. They had 2 kids in the garden (Cain and Abel). Cain and his WIFE had a son (Enoch). Bible FAIL.

 

Other religions god(s) are much more likely to be real.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

I personally don't understand how any intelligent human being could doubt a Creator.

 

There's absolutely NO WAY anything in life could miraculously come together to witness sunshine or a breath of air let alone ask a question such as yours without Intelligent Design.

 

The How & Why are the questions we need to ask.

 

Perhaps there was something that created the universes. Not a man. Not an entity. Probably some sort of energy.

 

But for anyone to act like they understand who and what this was is ignorant. Especially if they think some book from a couple thousand years ago has anything to do with what happened a billion years ago.

 

Perhaps there was a "God". But it is nothing close to what religions try to explain it as.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Probably not.

 

Can we get a prediction from Nate Silver on this? My guess is 99.6% not real.

[shorepatrol 1,870]

No, but there are plenty of religious kooks who think they got born into the only religion that knows the true god. That makes the wack-o's über dangerous.

[hoytdwow 202]

Define real

[Lackman 0]

I believe God is real. I think religion is bunk.

 

A person who wants to find God needs to find him/her/it/whatever by himself. Once someone else tries to show you the way, you haven't found God, you've been given their god.

 

That's thought provoking.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

A real doosh, yes.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

Define real

Well i guess i was thinking in more of a christian sense. When i die is there a god that wants me in his kingdom where my spirit will eterally lie. The part that is depressing is losing loved ones forever and never seeing them again.

 

Honestly though, who the fock would want to be conscious forever? I would go mad if i could never end it permnantly. Being immortal sounds very very overrated.

[Little Rusty 18]

Perhaps there was something that created the universes. Not a man. Not an entity. Probably some sort of energy.

 

But for anyone to act like they understand who and what this was is ignorant. Especially if they think some book from a couple thousand years ago has anything to do with what happened a billion years ago.

 

Perhaps there was a "God". But it is nothing close to what religions try to explain it as.

I hear what you're saying.....BUT if there was a GOD, why wouldn't he give us a book / manual to guide us through what is a truly amazing journey?

 

I'll just say this.....that long before i was a Christian, I saw many signs and wonders that provided proof enough of what i would later know to be true.

[shotsup 832]

A real doosh, yes.

 

[naomi 356]

The christian god is impossible to be real, because the entire story makes absolutely zero sense, from pretty much page 1.

 

Adam and Eve were the first humans. They had 2 kids in the garden (Cain and Abel). Cain and his WIFE had a son (Enoch). Bible FAIL.

 

Other religions god(s) are much more likely to be real.

 

Genesis doesn't say that Adam and Eve only had Cain and Abel. This is Genesis 5:3-4, "And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth: And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:.."

 

Before the fall, all of creation was said to be good (perfect). Entropy wasn't a factor. There weren't degenerative markers in the gene pool. By Moses's time in Leviticus law forbidding marrying within close blood relations was given down.

 

If you take the bible's account from Adam on seriously, you're left with mankind descending literally from one blood. The information for every person on earth, to come, was in Adam. If all the factors of the account of human history in the book of Genesis are true, it wouldn't have been aberrant and unhealthy to procreate with a family member like it is today. However over time it would become more and more so.

_____________________

 

 

There is a profound standout between biblically consistent Christianity and other religions- the existence of Grace. If corralling people into a specific way you want them to be is the goal, and their eternal stead is the incentive, forwarding true Christianity would not at all be the way to go. Your efforts don't secure anything.

 

Grace is a truth peculiar to divine revelation. It is a concept to which the unaided powers of man’s mind never rises. Proof of this is in the fact that where the Bible has not gone "grace" is unknown. Very often missionaries have found, when translating the Scriptures into native tongues of the heathen, they were unable to discover a word which in any way corresponds to the Bible word "grace." Grace is absent from all the great heathen religions—Brahmanism, Buddhism, Mohammedanism, Confucianism, Zoroastrianism. Even nature does not teach grace: break her laws and you must suffer the penalty.

 

What then is grace? First, it is evidently something very blessed and joyous, for our text speaks of the "good news of the grace of God." Secondly, it is the opposite of Law: Law and Gospel are antithetical terms: "The law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ" (John 1:17). It is significant that the word "Gospel" is never found in the Old Testament. Consider a few contrasts between them:

 

The Law manifested what was in man—sin; grace manifests what is in God—love, mercy. The Law speaks of what man must do for God; grace tells of what Christ has done for men. The Law demanded righteousness from men; grace brings righteousness to men. The Law brought out God to men; grace brings in men to God. The Law sentenced a living man to death; grace brings a dead man to life. The Law never had a missionary; the Gospel is to be preached to every creature. The Law makes known the will of God; grace reveals the heart of God!

 

In the third place, grace, then, is the very opposite of justice. Justice shows no favor and knows no mercy. Grace is the reverse of this. Justice requires that everyone should receive his due; grace bestows on sinners what they are not entitled to—pure charity. Grace is "something for nothing."

 

Now the Gospel is a revelation of this wondrous grace of God. It tells us that Christ has done for sinners what they could not do for themselves—it satisfied the demands of God’s Law. Christ has fully and perfectly met all the requirements of God’s holiness so that He can righteously receive every poor sinner who comes to Him. The Gospel tells us that Christ died not for good people, who never did anything very bad; but for lost and godless sinners who never did anything good. The Gospel reveals to every sinner, for his acceptance, a Savior all-sufficient, "able to save unto the uttermost them that come unto God by Him."

 

The Gospel Is a Proclamation of the Grace of God.

 

The word "Gospel" is a technical one, employed in the New Testament in a double sense: in a narrower, and in a wider one. In its narrower sense, it refers to heralding the glorious fact that the grace of God has provided a Savior for every poor sinner who feels his need, and by faith receives Him. In its wider sense, it comprehends the whole revelation which God made of Himself in and through Christ. In this sense it includes the whole of the New Testament.

 

Proof of this double application of the term Gospel is found in 1 Corinthians 15:1-3, a definition of the Gospel in its narrower sense: "that Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again." Then Romans 1:1 uses the term Gospel in its wider sense: there it includes the whole doctrinal exposition of that epistle. When Christ bade His disciples, "Preach the Gospel to every creature," I do not think He had reference to all that is in the New Testament, but simply to the fact that the grace of God has provided a Savior for sinners. Therefore we say that the Gospel is a proclamation of the grace of God.

 

The Gospel affirms that grace is the sinner’s only hope. Unless we are saved by grace we cannot be saved at all. To reject a gratuitous salvation is to spurn the only one that is available for lost sinners. Grace is God’s provision for those who are so corrupt that they cannot change their own natures; so averse to God, they cannot turn to Him; so blind they cannot see Him; so deaf they cannot hear Him; in a word, so dead in sin that He must open their graves and bring them on to resurrection-ground, if ever they are to be saved. Grace, then, implies that the sinner’s case is desperate, but that God is merciful.

 

The Gospel of God’s grace is for sinners in whom there is no help. It is exercised by God "without respect of persons," without regard to merit, without requirement of any return. The Gospel is not good advice, but Good News. It does not speak of what man is to do, but tells what Christ has done. It is not sent to good men, but to bad. Grace, then, is something that is worthy of God.

 

The Gospel Is a Manifestation of the Grace of God.

 

The Gospel is the "power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth." It is the chosen instrument which God uses in freeing and delivering His people from error, ignorance, darkness, and the power of Satan. It is by and through the Gospel, applied by the Holy Spirit, that His elect are emancipated from the guilt and power of sin. "For the preaching of the cross is to them which perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God . . . But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; but unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God" (1 Cor. 1:18, 23). Where evolution is substituted for the new birth, the cultivation of character for faith in the blood of Christ, development of willpower for humble dependence on God, the carnal mind may be attracted and poor human reason appealed to, but it is all destitute of power and brings no salvation to the perishing. There is no Gospel in a system of ethics, and no dynamic in the exactions of law.

 

But grace works. It is something more than a good-natured smile, or a sentiment of pity. It redeems, conquers, saves. The New Testament interprets grace as power. By it redemption comes, for it was by "the grace of God" that Christ tasted death "for every one" of the sons (Heb. 2:9). Forgiveness of sins is proclaimed through His blood "according to the riches of his grace" (Eph. 1:7). Grace not only makes salvation possible but also effectual. Grace is all-powerful. "My grace is sufficient for thee" (2 Cor. 12:9)—sufficient to overcome unbelief, the infirmities of the flesh, the oppositions of men, and the attacks of Satan.

[Chronic Husker 85]

You either have grace or you don't.

[kutulu 1,676]

Grace isn't something you can pick up at the market.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,440]

Grace isn't something you can pick up at the market.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3Ukacd3qEY

[mobb_deep 920]

Genesis doesn't say that Adam and Eve only had Cain and Abel. This is Genesis 5:3-4, "And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth: And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:.."

 

Before the fall, all of creation was said to be good (perfect). Entropy wasn't a factor. There weren't degenerative markers in the gene pool. By Moses's time in Leviticus law forbidding marrying within close blood relations was given down.

 

If you take the bible's account from Adam on seriously, you're left with mankind descending literally from one blood. The information for every person on earth, to come, was in Adam. If all the factors of the account of human history in the book of Genesis are true, it wouldn't have been aberrant and unhealthy to procreate with a family member like it is today. However over time it would become more and more so.

_____________________

 

 

There is a profound standout between biblically consistent Christianity and other religions- the existence of Grace. If corralling people into a specific way you want them to be is the goal, and their eternal stead is the incentive, forwarding true Christianity would not at all be the way to go. Your efforts don't secure anything.

 

Blah blah blah. I know I know... Genesis isn't meant to be read chronologically. Inference inference inference. :zzz:

[Mookz 1,348]

Here's a poser for you:

 

What if God was...one of us?

 

Just, you know...a slob. Like one of us.

 

Just a...oh, I dunno, just a stranger on a bus, for example.

 

Trying to make his way home.

 

Well? What about that?

[BunnysBastatrds 2,440]

You know what I like about God? Only He could invent the poosay. The univrerse colliding doesn't invent something as beautiful as the poosay. A taco? Yes!

[naomi 356]

Blah blah blah. I know I know... Genesis isn't meant to be read chronologically. Inference inference inference. :zzz:

 

For the most part it is. A place where it's not isn't coming to mind readily.

 

The Cain, Abel and other children point doesn't hinge on putting chronology aside, just that Genesis never states that Adam and Eve only had Cain and Abel.

 

The 'inferences' are other characteristics of their situation according to the bible.

[RLLD 4,230]

No. Religion is a fabrication of human creation. Throughout history it has been used to control populations, to justify power and dominance, and also imperialism.

 

Religion can bring about very positive outcomes, but too often it only results in negative outcomes. In a sense it is poisonous and harmful far more than positive.

 

There is not magical being manipulating circumstances and outcomes, this is an invention that can placate or suppress elements within a society in order to arrive at an either direct, or subtle for of social control.

 

The Christian religion, by way of example, is a purely fabricated sect that bases all of its important religious milestones on acquired celebrations from other religions. Its a business intent to acquire wealth and power.

[Mookz 1,348]

I dunno, at least of late, he's been more of a cornball deity...not down with the cause.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Is there anyway to believe in evolution and Christian/Muslim/Jewish at the same time?

 

I mean if you don't believe in evolution there isn't much to say. 1 is fact and science. The others come from writing that man wrote a couple thousand years ago.

 

We have people who thought the world was flat and the moon was made of cheese. And we concede that they really knew nothing much of how the world worked. Yet we want to blindly follow people of the same time period and their stories? I never understood why anyone who find these scriptures from people of this time as credible.

 

I also don't understand how people can say Christianity is real and right, but all the other religions have flaws or are total bunk. So over half of the world who believes is wrong? That is hard to believe.

 

I'd rather live my life through facts and some common sense than hanging on to the stories of people long ago with no common sense explanation for any of it. I don't need to cling onto the thought that there is something more, I'm not entitled to be comforted. Millions of people and animals have died throughout time....it is called the final stage of life. We don't need to make up stories to feel comforted. As if this life isn't enough and there should be more. It is really a greedy way of looking at death...to think you will frolic in heaven after forever. No, you probably sit in the ground and rot...like all other past living things.

[parrot 789]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhcxffIENBU

 

Long watch. But this guy is interesting as hell if you are into space. First 10 minutes are commercials. Picks up at about the 25 min mark. From us going to the moon, multi-universes, to aliens.

 

Don't label me as a Joe Rogan weirdo! But some of his guests are pretty good.

 

Tyson is awesome.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weu7Rh6dYrM

[Franknbeans 46]

As real as aliens and Bigfoot because he created them.

[Drizzay 719]

Tyson is awesome.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weu7Rh6dYrM

 

This. I could listen to him and Dr. Michio Kaku all day.

 

 

Theoretical physics