BLS 314 Posted October 5, 2017 The police/FBI aren't telling us what they know. If you watched the press conference last night, it was pretty clear that they know more than they are telling. Even admitting if they release information it might cause persons of interest to go underground.... A popular gun forum I'm on frequently had a Law Enforcement guy on yesterday who said the rumblings they're hearing is he was a leftist and it was politically motivated. Take it with a grain of salt.... So it begs the question, IF it was political, was it a lone wolf thing, or is this just the beginning of more planned attacks across the country. There's widespread speculation this guy is ANTIFA, although funny his FB got scrubbed and you can't find boo about it via google. ANTIFA is talking about November 4 being the day everything changes. Civil war, etc. Take that with a grain of salt as well. I'm not going to be hiding in my bunker, as I don't have one, and I'm not the least bit worried. Ain't no ANTIFA in my hometown. If they found evidence that this is just the beginning, I would think they wouldn't let that out until they have a chance to organize and go after them before Nov 4; hence being quiet at the presser last night. Clearly....something is up. It might be that it was political and they don't want it to make things worse by stirring up the pot so to speak. But it's pretty obvious this guy wasn't just off his rocker and decided to go out in a blaze of glory. If that was the case, they'd know by now and would say so. I don't buy that he's a spook or that it's an inside job to go after guns, etc. Heck, even CNN is partly dropping the story and moving on to Russia again. Either way...we live in interesting times and I don't trust a word from any news source on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 5, 2017 Leftist or Muslim is what I'm going with. Both are violent vile piles of schit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 5, 2017 Link to when I claimed any of that? I've said countless time I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job. I literally dispute EVERY conspiracy theory (well maybe except for Kennedys assassination). But there's too many holes in this one, too many eyewitness accounts, and too much inconsistency for it. When you've fired this type of weapon before you know a few things. Such as that place is going to be full of smoke. The gun with have probably jammed with as many times as he fired it for that length of time without stopping for the muzzle to cool down. YOU just want it to be true because you support the act of killing republicans (just like the president now am I right ) These progs hear what they want to hear, and scream down anything that doesn't align with their views. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 5, 2017 The police/FBI aren't telling us what they know. If you watched the press conference last night, it was pretty clear that they know more than they are telling. Even admitting if they release information it might cause persons of interest to go underground.... A popular gun forum I'm on frequently had a Law Enforcement guy on yesterday who said the rumblings they're hearing is he was a leftist and it was politically motivated. Take it with a grain of salt.... So it begs the question, IF it was political, was it a lone wolf thing, or is this just the beginning of more planned attacks across the country. There's widespread speculation this guy is ANTIFA, although funny his FB got scrubbed and you can't find boo about it via google. ANTIFA is talking about November 4 being the day everything changes. Civil war, etc. Take that with a grain of salt as well. I'm not going to be hiding in my bunker, as I don't have one, and I'm not the least bit worried. Ain't no ANTIFA in my hometown. If they found evidence that this is just the beginning, I would think they wouldn't let that out until they have a chance to organize and go after them before Nov 4; hence being quiet at the presser last night. Clearly....something is up. It might be that it was political and they don't want it to make things worse by stirring up the pot so to speak. But it's pretty obvious this guy wasn't just off his rocker and decided to go out in a blaze of glory. If that was the case, they'd know by now and would say so. I don't buy that he's a spook or that it's an inside job to go after guns, etc. Heck, even CNN is partly dropping the story and moving on to Russia again. Either way...we live in interesting times and I don't trust a word from any news source on it. I'm open to this angle too, though I'm a considerable degree more cynical than you are apparently. I don't trust absolutely dismissing the possibility that operatives work within our Government, and are complicit here. The actions of Comey and Clapper alone disqualify trust of agencies of that type. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus Chrysler 29 Posted October 5, 2017 Leftist or Muslim is what I'm going with. Both are violent vile piles of schit. Scared is no way to go through life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 5, 2017 Scared is no way to go through lifewho's scared ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus Chrysler 29 Posted October 5, 2017 who's scared ? You said that leftists were violent. Sounds kind of like you're scared. Do you think righties are the more peaceful? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 5, 2017 You said that leftists were violent. Sounds kind of like you're scared. Do you think righties are the more peaceful? Are you scared they're not? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 5, 2017 You said that leftists were violent. Sounds kind of like you're scared. Do you think righties are the more peaceful?not scared just call out the obvious, I could probably kick most leftists asses, crack their jaws. Yes the left is much more violent than the right this is fact. On one hand we have the tea party the other we have antifa. Pretty cut and dry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted October 5, 2017 WIth each post JC makes it's more apparent that he is newbie. What a pathetic loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted October 5, 2017 not scared just call out the obvious, I could probably kick most leftists asses, crack their jaws. Yes the left is much more violent than the right this is fact. On one hand we have the tea party the other we have antifa. Pretty cut and dry. Obvious to anyone with some common sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,710 Posted October 5, 2017 not scared just call out the obvious, I could probably kick most leftists asses, crack their jaws. All you have to do is throw out a few C words or N words or F words and they will run to their safe spaces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted October 5, 2017 I read that facebook stuff. INteresting there were zero questions about explosions or gunfire in other casinos. Maybe its all fake news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus Chrysler 29 Posted October 5, 2017 not scared just call out the obvious, I could probably kick most leftists asses, crack their jaws. Yes the left is much more violent than the right this is fact. On one hand we have the tea party the other we have antifa. Pretty cut and dry. Hmm. I've seen Trump's rallies. And his calls for violence. And the rabid supporters screaming in agreement. The sucker punches to anyone in disagreement. I also saw the shields and clubs of the neo-nazis that are all from the right. You'd have a tough job selling your theory about the left being more violent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,898 Posted October 5, 2017 Hmm. I've seen Trump's rallies. And his calls for violence. And the rabid supporters screaming in agreement. The sucker punches to anyone in disagreement. I also saw the shields and clubs of the neo-nazis that are all from the right. You'd have a tough job selling your theory about the left being more violent. ANTIFA is more violent than anyone out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus Chrysler 29 Posted October 5, 2017 ANTIFA is more violent than anyone out there. ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 5, 2017 Hmm. I've seen Trump's rallies. And his calls for violence. And the rabid supporters screaming in agreement. The sucker punches to anyone in disagreement. I also saw the shields and clubs of the neo-nazis that are all from the right. You'd have a tough job selling your theory about the left being more violent. You really only watch MSM, don't you? You haven't happened across antiFA violence videos? Haven't seen the Crowder video where he infiltrates antiFA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus Chrysler 29 Posted October 5, 2017 You really only watch MSM, don't you? You haven't happened across antiFA violence videos? Haven't seen the Crowder video where he infiltrates antiFA? I was simply refuting the guy's claim that the left was the violent side. Plenty of violence to go around. Neither side is innocent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,898 Posted October 5, 2017 ROID RAGE IS BUILDING Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 5, 2017 I was simply refuting the guy's claim that the left was the violent side. Plenty of violence to go around. Neither side is innocent. We're speaking of the clear contrast between the two sides - but you can bet that the more violent side says things like "there's plenty of blame to go around". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 5, 2017 Little historical context for newbs. AntiFA is often attributed blame for the rise of Nazi Party dominance in Germany. AntiFasciste Aktion and the Nazi party were just two of the several parties in Germany in the '30's, but antiFA's violent outbursts to Nazi speech and rallies resulted in such a severe basklash in the German people that Nazis were suddenly voted to prominence. It can legitimately be said that without AntiFA, Hitler may never have captured power in Germany. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 5, 2017 The police/FBI aren't telling us what they know. If you watched the press conference last night, it was pretty clear that they know more than they are telling. Even admitting if they release information it might cause persons of interest to go underground.... A popular gun forum I'm on frequently had a Law Enforcement guy on yesterday who said the rumblings they're hearing is he was a leftist and it was politically motivated. Take it with a grain of salt.... So it begs the question, IF it was political, was it a lone wolf thing, or is this just the beginning of more planned attacks across the country. There's widespread speculation this guy is ANTIFA, although funny his FB got scrubbed and you can't find boo about it via google. ANTIFA is talking about November 4 being the day everything changes. Civil war, etc. Take that with a grain of salt as well. I'm not going to be hiding in my bunker, as I don't have one, and I'm not the least bit worried. Ain't no ANTIFA in my hometown. If they found evidence that this is just the beginning, I would think they wouldn't let that out until they have a chance to organize and go after them before Nov 4; hence being quiet at the presser last night. Clearly....something is up. It might be that it was political and they don't want it to make things worse by stirring up the pot so to speak. But it's pretty obvious this guy wasn't just off his rocker and decided to go out in a blaze of glory. If that was the case, they'd know by now and would say so. I don't buy that he's a spook or that it's an inside job to go after guns, etc. Heck, even CNN is partly dropping the story and moving on to Russia again. Either way...we live in interesting times and I don't trust a word from any news source on it. Easy pal, I don't want to hear about you on the news Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted October 5, 2017 ROID RAGE IS BUILDING His 26yr old manager at planet fitness is getting sick of telling him to put his phone away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus Chrysler 29 Posted October 5, 2017 We're speaking of the clear contrast between the two sides - but you can bet that the more violent side says things like "there's plenty of blame to go around". Care to comment on Trump's campaign rallies and his calls for violence? Or the neo-Nazis? Or your banning for threatening to beat up someone who didn't agree with you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,898 Posted October 5, 2017 His 26yr old manager at planet fitness is getting sick of telling him to put his phone away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted October 5, 2017 His 26yr old manager at planet fitness is getting sick of telling him to put his phone away. Spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,911 Posted October 5, 2017 His 26yr old manager at planet fitness is getting sick of telling him to put his phone away. Lol. Newbie is silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,710 Posted October 5, 2017 Little historical context for newbs. AntiFA is often attributed blame for the rise of Nazi Party dominance in Germany. AntiFasciste Aktion and the Nazi party were just two of the several parties in Germany in the '30's, but antiFA's violent outbursts to Nazi speech and rallies resulted in such a severe basklash in the German people that Nazis were suddenly voted to prominence. It can legitimately be said that without AntiFA, Hitler may never have captured power in Germany. You should never argue with stupid people, they will only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,421 Posted October 5, 2017 have any of you seen THIS yet? https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleDust/videos/1560687037343918/?hc_location=ufi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,963 Posted October 5, 2017 He didn't get his room cleaned during this entire time? Wouldn't the maids have seen all the guns? Even when you tell them not to come in to clean they always come in anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,963 Posted October 5, 2017 Do you guys think everyone will sue Mandalay Bay if it shows the killer was clearly armed? Meaning, if Mandalay Bay knew he had a large amount of guns in the room would they be held responsible for not protecting people on their property? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 5, 2017 Do you guys think everyone will sue Mandalay Bay if it shows the killer was clearly armed? Meaning, if Mandalay Bay knew he had a large amount of guns in the room would they be held responsible for not protecting people on their property? That'd be a real stretch, especially considering no one was actually hurt on their premises. Doesn't mean someone won't try, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,543 Posted October 5, 2017 Do you guys think everyone will sue Mandalay Bay if it shows the killer was clearly armed? Meaning, if Mandalay Bay knew he had a large amount of guns in the room would they be held responsible for not protecting people on their property? nope hotels are not required to scan everyone's bags as they come in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,082 Posted October 5, 2017 He didn't get his room cleaned during this entire time? Wouldn't the maids have seen all the guns? Even when you tell them not to come in to clean they always come in anyway.Not in any hotel i stay at Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted October 5, 2017 He didn't get his room cleaned during this entire time? Wouldn't the maids have seen all the guns? Even when you tell them not to come in to clean they always come in anyway. He didn't have any maid service while he was there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 5, 2017 Care to comment on Trump's campaign rallies and his calls for violence? Or the neo-Nazis? Or your banning for threatening to beat up someone who didn't agree with you? Tissue? You're quite the hypocrite, Newbie. I wasn't banned. And I didn't threaten to beat up someone who didn't agree with me. And, it was something like 8 years ago. You're going to have to deflect from your epic fail quite a lot better than that, roidhead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,963 Posted October 5, 2017 He didn't have any maid service while he was there. You know what I think? I bet a maid went in there by accident and she is the same person who went to the concert yelling that they all will be killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 2,032 Posted October 5, 2017 You know what I think? I bet a maid went in there by accident and she is the same person who went to the concert yelling that they all will be killed. I don't buy that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beyond Chaos 75 Posted October 5, 2017 You know what I think? I bet a maid went in there by accident and she is the same person who went to the concert yelling that they all will be killed. I don't know anymore than you do, but I don't believe that story of someone warning others at the concert then being kicked out. I think there's a good chance the woman who claimed that happened made it up. I would give it more weight if there were several people confirming the presence of this person at the concert. On your point, I would ask why a maid would not just get the authorities involved rather than go down and start to warn others, potentially putting herself in harms way? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,963 Posted October 6, 2017 Oh, it was a made up story? Shame someone would do that. I figured a maid would just do her job and if she did mention it to her supervisors, maybe they didn't do anything about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites