EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130 Posted August 1, 2019 3 hours ago, MDC said: I’d say women’s rights groups tend to be left and men’s rights tend to be far right. What makes you think they are "far right"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted August 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, MDC said: Speak for yourself Peefoam. Hahahahhaa. You are so senile it's humorous. Keep it up though dude, this site has it's own CNN reporter as long as you are here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted August 2, 2019 3 hours ago, 5-Points said: Proud Boys aren't white supremacists so even if they had killed anyone it wouldn't count. I do know that. They're getting a bad rap overall although I'll wait for the trial to unfold to go over the particular situation of the NY confrontation where some got arrested for beating up Antifa members to reach a conclusion there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,566 Posted August 2, 2019 34 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I do know that. They're getting a bad rap overall although I'll wait for the trial to unfold to go over the particular situation of the NY confrontation where some got arrested for beating up Antifa members to reach a conclusion there. If it's the confrontation I'm thinking about, it was self defense on the part of the PB's. The PB's had attended an event earlier in the evening. Antifa gathered outside to protest the event and assaulted some event goers on the way into the venue. They had planned to release some sort of device through the ventilation system at the venue but weren't able to do so. As the PB's were exiting the venue after the event, the police directed them to exit in a certain direction to avoid a confrontation with antifa. They did as instructed and went in the direction they were told to go by police, only to have antifa run around the block to head them off and instigate a confrontation. Which they paid for with subsequent ass whoopin's. This event was no different than any other incident where antifa is concerned. They show up, start the violence, get their asses handed to them and then cry about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted August 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, 5-Points said: If it's the confrontation I'm thinking about, it was self defense on the part of the PB's. The PB's had attended an event earlier in the evening. Antifa gathered outside to protest the event and assaulted some event goers on the way into the venue. They had planned to release some sort of device through the ventilation system at the venue but weren't able to do so. As the PB's were exiting the venue after the event, the police directed them to exit in a certain direction to avoid a confrontation with antifa. They did as instructed and went in the direction they were told to go by police, only to have antifa run around the block to head them off and instigate a confrontation. Which they paid for with subsequent ass whoopin's. This event was no different than any other incident where antifa is concerned. They show up, start the violence, get their asses handed to them and then cry about it. Yes, that's the one. The trial is upcoming. We'll see how the thing goes in court although due to the venue, I don't expect they will get acquitted even if innocent. Still, at least we can see the prosecution's side of the story and compare it to this one and see what shakes out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted August 2, 2019 13 hours ago, MDC said: Not all right wingers are white supremicists. But all white supremicists are right wingers. This is why you are never taken seriously and mocked to no end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted August 2, 2019 On 7/31/2019 at 6:50 PM, MDC said: I suppose if you change the definition of a terrorist attack you can make it whatever you want. I may even be prone to consider many of the posts on this message board to be terrorist attacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted August 2, 2019 20 hours ago, Herbivore said: You believe it's true, take those stats, sit down, show Kaep, explain and discuss, hopefully get to accepted position. As I said, all you had to do was win this one person. Instead you went with shut up. That is how a problem doesn't get fixed. Whether the problem is inequality or a portion of the public being misled about it. I never go with "shut up". Dialectic is at the core of our Democracy, I welcome vigorous discussion. You might be projecting. If you want to find suppression of opinion you need to go find the leftists, that is their position Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted August 2, 2019 21 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Democrats don't want a civil war? How about no one really wants this. Anyone who does is a ###### I don't want one either but I sure know who's azz gets kicked......and fast. Basically every lunatic on the left will pile into the already decrepid cities of choice and have all supplies cut off. They will start to feed on each other and lose without much of a fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Webtoed Porkbutt 155 Posted August 2, 2019 5 hours ago, cbfalcon said: I may even be prone to consider many of the posts on this message board to be terrorist attacks. If you were just in that bathroom with me you would know what a real terrorist attacks was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130 Posted August 2, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 8:17 AM, MDC said: Not all right wingers are white supremicists. But all white supremicists are right wingers. Oh really? Quote A former Republican Louisiana State Representative, (David) Duke was a candidate in the Democratic presidential primaries in 1988... That's just after a cursory search a even 5 year old could have done. Do we need to explain the roots of the KKK to you? And whose side (Democrats) supported slavery and Jim Crowe? You should probably re-read and think about your posts before you actually post them. It might save you some further embarrassment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,489 Posted August 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Oh really? That's just after a cursory search a even 5 year old could have done. Do we need to explain the roots of the KKK to you? And whose side (Democrats) supported slavery and Jim Crowe? You should probably re-read and think about your posts before you actually post them. It might save you some further embarrassment. Didn’t that guy endorse Trump? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130 Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, MDC said: Didn’t that guy endorse Trump? Nope. He's the guy that endorsed Tulsi Gabbard! Gosh this is easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,489 Posted August 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Nope. He's the guy that endorsed Tulsi Gabbard! Gosh this is easy. “Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke has officially signed up to run for U.S. Senate in Louisiana. Duke registered Friday, the final day of Louisiana’s qualifying period. A registered Republican, he is seeking an open seat vacated by Republican David Vitter.” https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-the-latest-ex-kkk-leader-duke-says-he-will-run-2016jul22-story.html?_amp=true Looks like even white supremicists who endorse Democrats are right wing Republicans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,270 Posted August 2, 2019 2 hours ago, remote controller said: I don't want one either but I sure know who's azz gets kicked......and fast. Basically every lunatic on the left will pile into the already decrepid cities of choice and have all supplies cut off. They will start to feed on each other and lose without much of a fight. Idk man. Republicans seem to whine about anything and everything. Pretty sure they would just cry the entire time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Webtoed Porkbutt 155 Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, Frozenbeernuts said: Idk man. Republicans seem to whine about anything and everything. Pretty sure they would just cry the entire time Have you been in a coma since the election? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130 Posted August 2, 2019 55 minutes ago, MDC said: “Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke has officially signed up to run for U.S. Senate in Louisiana. Duke registered Friday, the final day of Louisiana’s qualifying period. A registered Republican, he is seeking an open seat vacated by Republican David Vitter.” https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-the-latest-ex-kkk-leader-duke-says-he-will-run-2016jul22-story.html?_amp=true Looks like even white supremicists who endorse Democrats are right wing Republicans. Once again, you reach into the past to try and disprove more recent and correct articles. Sorry pal, you lose again. #winning Democrats were the party of slavery, the KKK and Jim Crowe if you want to talk about history. You need to embrace YOUR history and past and own it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,489 Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Once again, you reach into the past to try and disprove more recent and correct articles. Like the Democratic primaries 30 years ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130 Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, MDC said: Like the Democratic primaries 30 years ago? I was disproving your point that all racists are right wingers. Duke ran as a Democrat. Democrats supported slavery, started the KKK and Jim Crowe. That's undisputed. And today, they've just replaced the physical plantation with their virtual plantation via their policies over the years. Own your racism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,489 Posted August 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: I was disproving your point that all racists are right wingers. I said all white nationalists are right wingers. And you brought up white nationalist Republican Trump supporter David Duke. Nice job aasclown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,621 Posted August 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, MDC said: I said all white nationalists are right wingers. And you brought up white nationalist Republican Trump supporter David Duke. Nice job aasclown. Robert Northam? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130 Posted August 2, 2019 23 minutes ago, MDC said: I said all white nationalists are right wingers. And you brought up white nationalist Republican Trump supporter David Duke. Nice job aasclown. The same guy that ran in the Democrat primaries and the same guy that just endorsed Tulsi Gabbard, f#ckwad. Not only that, the Democrats own history defines them as racists/white nationalists. I like how you conveniently leave that out of your responses. You're none too bright, that's for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 4, 2019 Democratic presidential candidate warns that civil war is close and blames white supremacy https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presidential-candidate-pete-buttigieg-white-supremacy-issue-ends/story?id=64465884 Presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg says white supremacy could be 'issue that ends this country' Jul 21, 2019, 1:35 AM ET All of the Democratic presidential candidates have condemned Donald Trump's racist comments directed at four congresswomen last week, and the chants of "send her back" directed at Rep. Ilhan Omar at a rally a day later, but Pete Buttigieg took it a step further on Saturday. Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, was stumping in Iowa over the weekend, where he told ABC News that the issue of white supremacy -- an accusation often lobbed at Trump by the left -- "could be the lurking issue that ends this country." The mayor said the current climate could escalate, going as far as to mention the Civil War. "That is the only issue that almost ended this country. … We’ve had a lot challenges in this country, but the one that actually almost ended this country in the Civil War was white supremacy," Buttigieg said. "It could be the lurking issue that ends this country in the future, if we don’t wrangle it down in our time." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 4, 2019 Franklin Graham is the president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. He is the son of legendary evangelist Billy Graham. https://www.politicususa.com/2019/05/31/franklin-graham-civil-war-trump-impeached.html Franklin Graham warned that millions of Trump supporters would start a civil war if Trump is brought down for any reason. I think what is going on in Washington has something to do with [my call to prayer]. It has bothered me and it has been a burden on my heart because this president is being attacked more than any president in modern history; attacked by the press more than Abraham Lincoln. So he is the president of the United States. You had two years of investigation that came up with nothing. Now the media and his opponents in Washington are doing everything they can to destroy him. What we need to remember is that he is the president. That doesn’t mean that he is a perfect person. He is flawed like all of us. He has made plenty of mistakes but he is the leader of this nation. We have got huge problems in front of us. If the president was brought down for whatever reason, it could lead to a civil war. There are millions of people out there that voted for President Trump that are behind him that are angry and they are mad. We are just living in a very dangerous territory, and we need God’s help. Trump Supporters Are Threatening America Graham has already called for a national day of prayer for Trump because he thinks that Jesus can help Trump avoid impeachment. Jesus turned water into wine, but it is uncertain if even Christ himself could fix the level of corruption and stupid in this White House. Franklin Graham denies endorsing Donald Trump, but he pulled out of the far-right’s favorite threats. In hiding behind the Bible mob style Graham warned that if anything happens to Trump the country gets it. This is the same threat that Trump supporters have been throwing out there for years, and nothing ever happens. Trump supporters, just like their president, appear to be all talk and no action. The threats aren’t going to work. The nation is ready to call Graham’s bluff and get rid of Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 4, 2019 Some people are asserting that China dislikes Trump. Well, here's a long article from the Atlantic in March 2018 that helps dispel that and explains their views. BAIZUO! One thing you might not know is the chinese people hate western liberals to the point where they have their own special word for them. They call them "baizuo". It translates into "white left" and is basically a slur used by the chinese against liberals in the US. You might interchange it with "libtard". This is a nation that does have an admiration for Trump (and that admiration likely gets renewed once the trade war is behind us). I see a nation that will side with the alt right. And in fact, its people are already doing so. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/trump-china/550886/ China Loves Trump The people love a winner. The leadership loves a dupe. March 2018 In January of last year, around the time of the presidential inauguration, as jitters about the relationship between Donald Trump and China mounted, I regularly joined the mob of reporters at the Chinese foreign ministry’s daily briefings in Beijing. There, the assembled members of the media would press officials on Trump’s latest anti-China comment or Twitter blast—on tariffs, trade wars, North Korea, or China’s “theft” of American jobs. Reporters expected righteous denunciations of the kind China routinely unleashes against South Korea, the Philippines, and other countries perceived as even notionally affronting Chinese interests. But they never came. Day after day, the spokespeople stubbornly, and then impatiently, accentuated a positive view of the prospects for U.S.–Chinese ties under Trump. Likewise in the state media. While American pundits warned that conflict between the world’s top two economies would lead to meltdown, or speculated about China’s putatively enraged reaction to Trump’s phone call with Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen, Beijing’s state-sanctioned media outlets retained a strangely forbearing, at times vaguely optimistic, tone about the relationship. From the very beginning, the Communist Party seems to have understood that Trump’s threats were, for the most part, merely for show. While Barack Obama vexed Beijing with his idealism, “pivot to Asia,” and China-excluding Trans-Pacific Partnership—a massive trade pact that would have fused the major economies of Asia with the United States—Trump has emphatically reversed course, tearing up the TPP and driving allies to consider China-backed plans instead. But just as Trump is different things to different Americans—a conservative, a populist, a strongman, a clown—so, too, is he different things to different Chinese. Especially visible among Trump’s Chinese fans are those who pride themselves on being well versed in American politics. Take the online platform Zhihu, a Quora-like forum, where the topic “Donald J. Trump” has garnered some 75,000 followers, nearly half the total following for “America.” One survey suggests that a number of pro-Trump Zhihu users attended college in the U.S. The survey was small, but my own reporting has tended to corroborate this. Those I spoke with said they formed negative impressions of liberalism that helped push them toward Trump. Like many of Trump’s American supporters, they appreciated his hatred of the pieties and shibboleths of the educated American left. Zhihu users vigorously debate questions that would fit in well on any right-wing platform in the U.S. One page viewed 3.2 million times asks: “Why do many Chinese look down on Western baizuo who consider themselves well-educated?” (The slur literally means “white left,” but is likened to “libtard” on Zhihu.) Forums feature pictures of Pepe the Frog, a symbol of the alt-right, and of a “Liberal Jack-Ass” captioned “Everything I don’t like, must be banned. Everything I do like is a human right and must be paid for by others.” This custom makes Trump’s attacks on political correctness appealing to some Chinese, according to Yan Gu, a University of Washington doctoral candidate studying authoritarianism who has researched Chinese online opinion about Trump. Chinese netizens “dislike political correctness and neo-liberal rhetoric,” she told me, noting that “a large portion of Chinese online response” to Obama was “quite racist”; one common slur referred to him as “O-Black.” Sentiment about LGBT issues is rather conservative in much of China, where electroshock therapy is sometimes used as a “cure” for homosexuality. Trump’s nationalist rhetoric and “strongman style” resonate in China’s political culture, Yan noted. The country’s founding emperor, Qin Shi Huang, is revered for uniting the nation, despite his infamy for burning books and burying scholars alive. Mao, who styled himself as a new emperor, squashed dissent and spurred traumatic and violent campaigns against intellectuals, teachers, and writers, but was idolized by many Chinese and remains, in some quarters, a legend. Xi Jinping has, despite his stolid exterior, proved to be China’s most hard-line leader in decades, and his campaigns to curb foreign influence and vault Chinese companies to dominance in the industries of the future have contributed to his popular appeal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted September 4, 2019 MY wife rages at Affirmative Action and we both celebrated Justice Kennedy being replaced by Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court. She liked Trump for a long time but this trade war has had her sour on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted September 4, 2019 It's a little funny to hear liberal/leftists suggest that Trump losing the election would lead to violence......the very thing that liberal/leftists have both encouraged AND actually do.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,489 Posted September 4, 2019 43 minutes ago, RLLD said: It's a little funny to hear liberal/leftists suggest that Trump losing the election would lead to violence......the very thing that liberal/leftists have both encouraged AND actually do.... Well, you’ve got deranged Trumpers committing mass shootings and Trumpers in this thread saying they’ll align with China and Russia in Civil War 2, so ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,294 Posted September 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, MDC said: Well, you’ve got deranged Trumpers committing mass shootings and Trumpers in this thread saying they’ll align with China and Russia in Civil War 2, so ... Those don't count---only ones where you have to make a giant sematic leap count when tracking violence by political leanings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Those don't count---only ones where you have to make a giant sematic leap count when tracking violence by political leanings. They ALL count for some people. I do agree that many others tend to ignore the carnage that doesn't fit their politics. This is generally led by the MSM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,942 Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, MDC said: Well, you’ve got deranged Trumpers committing mass shootings and Trumpers in this thread saying they’ll align with China and Russia in Civil War 2, so ... Ummm, you might want to check and see if the shooters were all Trump supporters. I think some of them were Bernie, Beta, and Obama lovers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 4, 2019 2 hours ago, RLLD said: It's a little funny to hear liberal/leftists suggest that Trump losing the election would lead to violence......the very thing that liberal/leftists have both encouraged AND actually do.... There is a demographic shift taking place. For DECADES, conservatives were mostly white collar while liberals were mostly blue collar union workers. This flipped in the 21st century. Modern liberals tend to be white collar college grads, while blue collar workers are conservatives. That is altering the dynamics of our politics. For example, it means a populist republican can win (like Trump). It also means the republicans are prone to riot if politics doesn't go their way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,942 Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, riversco said: There is a demographic shift taking place. For DECADES, conservatives were mostly white collar while liberals were mostly blue collar union workers. This flipped in the 21st century. Modern liberals tend to be white collar college grads, while blue collar workers are conservatives. That is altering the dynamics of our politics. For example, it means a populist republican can win (like Trump). It also means the republicans are prone to riot if politics doesn't go their way. Based upon previous rioting in the USA, can you provide examples of Republicans rioting? The only ones I remember involve the masked fhaggots of Antifa and "Inner City" Democrats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,489 Posted September 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: Ummm, you might want to check and see if the shooters were all Trump supporters. I think some of them were Bernie, Beta, and Obama lovers. Not sure about Beto and Obummer. I do remember the Bernie guy. Meanwhile you’ve got the shooters in El Paso, Dayton, New Zealand, the MAGAbomber etc. all Trump inspired domestic terrorists. They love America so much that they kill their fellow citizens and welcome another civil war. That’s patriotism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,506 Posted September 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: Ummm, you might want to check and see if the shooters were all Trump supporters. I think some of them were Bernie, Beta, and Obama lovers. And Muhammad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 4, 2019 I claim that these so called "terrorists" were inspired by the left's demonization of law enforcement. Either way Trump had nothing to do with the actions of anyone who has shot anyone else, from Dayton to Chicago. Whoever would make that claim is a moron troll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, MDC said: Not sure about Beto and Obummer. I do remember the Bernie guy. Meanwhile you’ve got the shooters in El Paso, Dayton, New Zealand, the MAGAbomber etc. all Trump inspired domestic terrorists. They love America so much that they kill their fellow citizens and welcome another civil war. That’s patriotism. The Dayton queer was a Liz Warren loving POS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 5, 2019 22 hours ago, bostonlager said: The Dayton queer was a Liz Warren loving POS. Orlando gay nightclub shooter was a gay Muslim. Pittsburgh Synagogue killer said Trump was a Jew lover. Florida School shooter hated cops. All Trump inspired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/4/2019 at 7:19 AM, lickin_starfish said: Based upon previous rioting in the USA, can you provide examples of Republicans rioting? The only ones I remember involve the masked fhaggots of Antifa and "Inner City" Democrats. We had the Brooks Brothers riot in November 2000, when republicans rioted in the streets and several people were injured over recounts outside the offices of the Miami-Dade Canvassing Board. Republicans claimed the recount was moved to a secret room and could not be verified or trusted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot That could have been the start of some serious deterioration in national unity had not Gore conceded to end the election (and 911 reunified the nation totally for about a decade). 911 may have postponed the crack of our nation by 10 years or more. There was the Hard Hat Riot in 1970 over Vietnam. Union workers aligned with Nixon rioted and attacked hippies that protested. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Hat_Riot But one thing to keep in mind is that the GOP only very recently morphed into a blue-collar party. To be more precise, you should be asking "can you provide examples of blue collar america rioting?" because regardless of party, its the blue collar that will riot in favor of republicans. If you are a white collar republican, or are over 40, you really don't fit in the same universe with the republicans that will riot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,506 Posted September 5, 2019 The Union I currently belong to (seiu) cares more about illegals than they do American workers. They put plenty of energy into protesting and lobbying on behalf of Illegals. Thankfully I'm days away from being down with them. I told a few of my co-workers that you can opt out of paying the pct of your dues that go towards political action. They plan on doing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites