sderk 1,040 Posted December 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Intense Observer said: Saw a few interesting theories: 1. This impeachment was really just a Trojan horse to gain access to the Mueller grand jury testimony and Trump's taxes. The initial claims were all about bribery, quid pro quo, etc yet Trump was not charged for those alleged crimes. (Never mind that no evidence was actually presented, only third party heresay and testimony of opinions). The charges evolved into obstruction and abuse of power because the Dems believe they can prove those with new evidence from Mueller and taxes (which have nothing to do with Ukraine). Now they are just waiting on the courts to grant them access. And worst case scenario, if they gain access and still fail to find any crimes or impeach then they have a treasure trove of opposition research to use against Trump to impact the 2020 election. (Irony much?) Alternatively: 2. SCOTUS will biotch slap the Dems for bringing a political impeachment based on no evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors. Their efforts to gain access to Mueller's grand jury evidence and Trump's taxes will both be denied based on merit and relevance. The Chief Justice could dismiss the charges on the basis of the House not upholding the Constitution and abusing their powers. In their efforts to override the will of the people (from attempts to bypass the electoral college, 25th amendment, FISA spying, special counsels, impeachment after impeachment attempt --this is the 3rd attempt voted on--, SCOTUS hearing tampering, defense budgets, states of emergency, government shutdowns, breaking client-attorney privilege and throwing them in prison, SWAT raids with CNN in tow of senior citizens accused of white collar crimes, using the courts to force a citizen to turn over tax records without basis, quid pro quo, children of the VP collecting millions from a former Russian nation... the Dems have brought obscure political maneuvering to the mainstream. But mdc and worms have no idea what you are talking about. How the heck will this nation continue to flourish without their approvals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, MDC said: Trillion dollar deficits: https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/finance/475223-budget-watchdogs-howl-over-deficit-ballooning-deals%3famp so what, who cares. meaningless. Also of note, both parties agreed on the spending. Back to the drawing board, loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted December 19, 2019 9 hours ago, MDC said: 3rd President ever impeached. Ooofff. 1 year from now: 1st president to defeat a bogus impeachment attempt and win another term. You're a total loser. You've been buttfocked so much by Trump that by now you must be using a traffic cone to plug your hole. 1 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted December 20, 2019 20 hours ago, tanatastic said: Ha, I’m getting downvoted to hell on reddit trying to explain to people that this doesn’t mean he is out of office. I’m getting namecalled and berated by crazed liberals and I’m not even a Trump supporter! Oh God. Never talk politics on reddit. I'm about as moderate as they come I think, and they act like im Hitler over there. I mentioned once that all the democratic candidates were a joke, and got down voted into oblivion. They really think they're going to win easily in 2020. This result and the meltdowns will be even worse than last time. I seriously expect violence if Trump wins again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,621 Posted December 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: Oh God. Never talk politics on reddit. I'm about as moderate as they come I think, and they act like im Hitler over there. I mentioned once that all the democratic candidates were a joke, and got down voted into oblivion. They really think they're going to win easily in 2020. This result and the meltdowns will be even worse than last time. I seriously expect violence if Trump wins again. Yeah if you hangout on the cringe left subs. /r/POLITIC /r/TheNewRight /r/Conservative /r/GamersRiseUp (best sub on Reddit) are all extremely right leaning and libs get down voted to oblivion. /r/Politics /r/news and all the other main subs are controlled by foreigners and mainly Muslims. Don’t believe me? Go look at the mods and see what communities they are active in. Get away from those people man. They hate you. Good example: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted December 20, 2019 Okay, I've been busy this week and just catching up....or trying to. So the House voted to Impeach, and it passes, but they aren't moving forward with it? WTF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Okay, I've been busy this week and just catching up....or trying to. So the House voted to Impeach, and it passes, but they aren't moving forward with it? WTF? Pelosi wants conditions on how the senate is going to hear the case. Typical dem bullshlt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,511 Posted December 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, sderk said: Pelosi wants conditions on how the senate is going to hear the case. Typical dem bullshlt. No she doesn't. She doesn't want to send it at all. Let it sit there and libtards can feel good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No she doesn't. She doesn't want to send it at all. Let it sit there and libtards can feel good. I agree. And I think it is another really bad ploy by them. I also hope it sits there and then that is all the left will have to campaign on. They, like MDC and Worms, are retarded. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted December 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, sderk said: I agree. And I think it is another really bad ploy by them. I also hope it sits there and then that is all the left will have to campaign on. They, like MDC and Worms, are retarded. Mentally challenged Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted December 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Okay, I've been busy this week and just catching up....or trying to. So the House voted to Impeach, and it passes, but they aren't moving forward with it? WTF? Well members of the Republican leadership in the Senate have openly stated that they have no intention of holding an actual trial and acting as jurors in the matter. So there’s some wrangling going on where Democrats are trying to convince them they should do their focking jobs under the constitution and republicans are continuing to say they won’t. But yeah, fock the Dems 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,511 Posted December 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, sderk said: I agree. And I think it is another really bad ploy by them. I also hope it sits there and then that is all the left will have to campaign on. They, like MDC and Worms, are retarded. I'd say cuckolded. They can tie their shoes and cross the street. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted December 20, 2019 1 minute ago, IGotWorms said: Well members of the Republican leadership in the Senate have openly stated that they have no intention of holding an actual trial and acting as jurors in the matter. So there’s some wrangling going on where Democrats are trying to convince them they should do their focking jobs under the constitution and republicans are continuing to say they won’t. But yeah, fock the Dems The rules only apply to one side? Clearly none of the dems in the house did their jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted December 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Well members of the Republican leadership in the Senate have openly stated that they have no intention of holding an actual trial and acting as jurors in the matter. So there’s some wrangling going on where Democrats are trying to convince them they should do their focking jobs under the constitution and republicans are continuing to say they won’t. But yeah, fock the Dems You're such a fool. If the Dems turn over the articles then we'll see. Until then you are buying lie after lie after lie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted December 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Well members of the Republican leadership in the Senate have openly stated that they have no intention of holding an actual trial and acting as jurors in the matter. So there’s some wrangling going on where Democrats are trying to convince them they should do their focking jobs under the constitution and republicans are continuing to say they won’t. But yeah, fock the Dems Are you the goose or the gander? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted December 20, 2019 Poor Worms, MDC, Hawkeye and Honcho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,871 Posted December 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Well members of the Republican leadership in the Senate have openly stated that they have no intention of holding an actual trial and acting as jurors in the matter. So there’s some wrangling going on where Democrats are trying to convince them they should do their focking jobs under the constitution and republicans are continuing to say they won’t. But yeah, fock the Dems Only 5 more years. Relax fake lawyer. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted December 20, 2019 So lemme get this straight. We went through all this impeachment stuff, where the House all but ran the rules as they should, duly elected by the people. However when it is sent to the Senate, also duly elected, its all the sudden not fair? Get the fock out of here with that nonsense. Are they serious with this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 20, 2019 The dems know they baked a schit cake and now they're afraid the people who judge it may taste it. worms obviously likes eating schit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdGang 385 Posted December 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: So lemme get this straight. We went through all this impeachment stuff, where the House all but ran the rules as they should, duly elected by the people. However when it is sent to the Senate, also duly elected, its all the sudden not fair? Get the fock out of here with that nonsense. Are they serious with this? This is what their party stands for, manufactured partisan drama while accomplishing nothing to improve the daily lives of Americans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,871 Posted December 20, 2019 1 minute ago, BirdGang said: This is what their party stands for, manufactured partisan drama while accomplishing nothing to improve the daily lives of Americans. They don't give a fock about this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted December 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: So lemme get this straight. We went through all this impeachment stuff, where the House all but ran the rules as they should, duly elected by the people. However when it is sent to the Senate, also duly elected, its all the sudden not fair? Get the fock out of here with that nonsense. Are they serious with this? Once they turn the articles over, they lose control of the narrative. They are milking what they can, while they can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted December 20, 2019 Just to recap, Article 1, Abuse of Power: Yes: 229 Dem 0 Rep 1 Ind No: 2 Dem 195 Rep Present: Tulsi Article 2, Obstruction of Congress: Yes: 228 Dem 0 Rep 1 Ind No: 3 Dem 195 Rep Present: Tulsi Zero bipartisanship on Yes for impeachment. Tiny bipartisanship on No for impeachment. Anyone know what the breakdown was for Clinton and Jackson? We're they as divided by party lines as this vote was or was there bipartisan agreement? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted December 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Well members of the Republican leadership in the Senate have openly stated that they have no intention of holding an actual trial and acting as jurors in the matter. So there’s some wrangling going on where Democrats are trying to convince them they should do their focking jobs under the constitution and republicans are continuing to say they won’t. But yeah, fock the Dems Jesus man... I hope you are playing some kind of online role... Nobody is actually like this are they? Like, in real life? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: Well members of the Republican leadership in the Senate have openly stated that they have no intention of holding an actual trial and acting as jurors in the matter. So there’s some wrangling going on where Democrats are trying to convince them they should do their focking jobs under the constitution and republicans are continuing to say they won’t. But yeah, fock the Dems You realize that "fair trial" pertains to the accused, not the accuser, right ? You should demand a refund from whomever educated you in law. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, iam90sbaby said: Yeah if you hangout on the cringe left subs. /r/POLITIC /r/TheNewRight /r/Conservative /r/GamersRiseUp (best sub on Reddit) are all extremely right leaning and libs get down voted to oblivion. /r/Politics /r/news and all the other main subs are controlled by foreigners and mainly Muslims. Don’t believe me? Go look at the mods and see what communities they are active in. Get away from those people man. They hate you. Good example: The only time I ever read political sh!t on reddit is when something frome r/worldnews pops into my feed. Or occasionally in various China related subs, although I try to avoid that for obvious reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted December 20, 2019 1 minute ago, drobeski said: You realize that "fair trial" pertains to the accused, not the accuser, right ? You should demand a refund from whomever educated you in law. But the website said guaranteed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,621 Posted December 20, 2019 1 minute ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: The only time I ever read political sh!t on reddit is when something frome r/worldnews pops into my feed. Or occasionally in various China related subs, although I try to avoid that for obvious reasons. World news is ran by the Muslims too, go check mod activity, you’ll be shocked, don’t just take it from me, go look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, iam90sbaby said: World news is ran by the Muslims too, go check mod activity, you’ll be shocked and do that with all the main subs Oh reddit has become a joke. You should see the moderation in r/china now that Chinese company tencent bought a stake in reddit. The place is flooded with paid ccp shills. We call them wumao because they get paid half a yuan (or five Mao) per post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,621 Posted December 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: Oh reddit has become a joke. You should see the moderation in r/china now that Chinese company tencent bought a stake in reddit. The place is flooded with paid ccp shills. We call them wumao because they get paid half a yuan (or five Mao) per post. Yeah man tencent owning Reddit is scary. That company is secretly taking over a lot of small tech companies. They even made Free multiplayer game called Ring of Elysium, they bought a stake in Discord as well. Scary stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, iam90sbaby said: Yeah man tencent owning Reddit is scary. That company is secretly taking over a lot of small tech companies. They even made Free multiplayer game called Ring of Elysium, they bought a stake in Discord as well. Scary stuff. There was some pirate mmorpg that apparently was just swarmed with chinese. They all banded together and hunted down all non Chinese and killed them over and over. A few guys I know started playing just so they could run around with a Taiwan flag and piss them off. Its getting ridiculous man. Things have changed here so much in the last 4 years. And not for the better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,621 Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: There was some pirate mmorpg that apparently was just swarmed with chinese. They all banded together and hunted down all non Chinese and killed them over and over. A few guys I know started playing just so they could run around with a Taiwan flag and piss them off. Its getting ridiculous man. Things have changed here so much in the last 4 years. And not for the better. They do that all the time in online games. Westerns pretty much boycott games if they put us on the same servers as the Chinese, it’s the same sh!t with them nonstop. They use to be allowed to play with us on PUBG till the split the Chinese server, all they would do is scream China #1 death to America in proximity chat until the game started. You and Volty should gtfo. I didn’t realize how much they hated us until a few years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted December 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: They do that all the time in online games. Westerns pretty much boycott games if they put us on the same servers as the Chinese, it’s the same sh!t with them nonstop. They use to be allowed to play with us on PUBG till the split the Chinese server, all they would do is scream China #1 death to America in proximity chat until the game started. You and Volty should gtfo. I didn’t realize how much they hated us until a few years ago. I'm looking at moving to Japan in the next year or so myself. I have never had a problem in meatspace, except one guy yelling China #1 at me on the street once. It's tiny syndrome writ large. They know their country is inferior, so they flex. No way would I want to be out partying and trying to pull here now though. Between the cops and angry incels, you're begging for trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,511 Posted December 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: I'm looking at moving to Japan in the next year or so myself. I have never had a problem in meatspace, except one guy yelling China #1 at me on the street once. It's tiny syndrome writ large. They know their country is inferior, so they flex. No way would I want to be out partying and trying to pull here now though. Between the cops and angry incels, you're begging for trouble. Sounds like Boston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 20, 2019 Great thread on just what sent the State Dept and the Dems/RINOs in a panic. https://mobile.twitter.com/HNIJohnMiller/status/1196540217131438091 Apparently everyone missed something. During Trump's call to Ukraine he mentions investigation of Ambassador Yovanovich. Later, during an interview Trump mentions she's about to go through some things. She was part of the money laundering of USAID to Ukraine. Previous 7.5 billion earmarked for Ukraine disappeared; Trump OMB has questioned State Dept to account for all these funds. They've been skimming from ALL the foreign aid; not just Ukraine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,511 Posted December 21, 2019 7.5 BILLION. I can't even imagine how that could be unaccounted for, even for a minute. I know it's government money, but still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,932 Posted December 21, 2019 Nancy is asking for a Quid Pro Quo, interesting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,569 Posted December 21, 2019 23 hours ago, KSB2424 said: Okay, I've been busy this week and just catching up....or trying to. So the House voted to Impeach, and it passes, but they aren't moving forward with it? WTF? Correct. They know it's DOA so they won't give the Republicans the satisfaction. Case in point, the impeachment trial is supposed to take place in January but Pelosi has invited Trump to make the SOTU speech in February. They know they have no case. They put on the dog and pony show for the lemmings. Who, as evidenced by a few here, swallowed it hook, line and sinker and they'll continue to claim that Trump was impeached right up through his re-election. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,511 Posted December 21, 2019 Just now, 5-Points said: Correct. They know it's DOA so they won't give the Republicans the satisfaction. Case in point, the impeachment trial is supposed to take place in January but Pelosi has invited Trump to make the SOTU speech in February. They know they have no case. They put on the dog and pony show for the lemmings. Who, as evidenced by a few here, swallowed it hook, line and sinker and they'll continue to claim that Trump was impeached right up through his re-election. Same crew that bought the Russia hoax and actually thought there was a tape of hookers peeing on Trump. No wonder Slownuff and Newbie stay away. I didn't think they would be smart enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted December 21, 2019 1 minute ago, 5-Points said: Correct. They know it's DOA so they won't give the Republicans the satisfaction. Case in point, the impeachment trial is supposed to take place in January but Pelosi has invited Trump to make the SOTU speech in February. They know they have no case. They put on the dog and pony show for the lemmings. Who, as evidenced by a few here, swallowed it hook, line and sinker and they'll continue to claim that Trump was impeached right up through his re-election. This is like a participation trophy impeachment. You don't actually win but you can feel special. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites