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So Trump has ceded control of Syria to the Russians

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You know, the hostile foreign power that helped him win the 2016 election?

He even gave them our bases!


 

CEYLANPINAR, Turkey — Russia said on Tuesday that its military units were patrolling territory in northern Syria vacated by the Americans following the withdrawal ordered by President Trump, underscoring the sudden loss of United States influence in the eight-year-old Syria war.

The Americans had until Monday maintained two military bases in the area, and Russia’s announcement signaled that Moscow, the Syrian government’s most important ally, was moving to fill a security void left by the withdrawal of both the American military and its partners in their effort to destroy the Islamic State and its Syrian base.

Videos circulating on social mediaappeared to show a Russian-speaking man filming himself walking around a recently evacuated United States military base in northern Syria, punctuating the message that the Russians were now in charge.

President Trump decided last week to abruptly yank American forces from a Kurdish enclave of northern Syria, ending a longstanding alliance with Syrian Kurdish fighters regarded by Turkey as terrorists. Turkey’s military then invaded, driving tens of thousands of civilians from their homes and forcing the Syrian Kurdish fighters to align themselves with the Syrian military in a stunning switch of allegiances for survival.

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Good they can have them.

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You people are so far beyond retarded.

A clickbait headline and word salad is all it takes for you to run to the internet and start a copypasta thread claiming you got him this time.

Get help.

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Btw, why should the US give 2 focks about Syria?

Turks and Kurds have killed each other for hundreds of years. They will still be killing each other when we are all dead and gone.

Syria was in a civil war that we started by funding rebels who turned into ISIS.

Trump killed all the ISIS trash and McCain caught cancer because karma.

The only people who want us in Syria are politicians pocketing millions off arms deals (which create the mess) and NGOs (which clean up the mess). 

Fock you and your warmongering friends.

If Russia finds a way to fix the region then they did better than NATO and US combined.

 

 

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No complaints when Obama pullled out of Iraq and created Isis. None whatsoever. 

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I saw a video of a Russian soldier in a cave that was occupied by American soldiers last week. He was mocking us. Laughing and saying "Let's see what they had for lunch".  :(  Sad times for America.  Trump played right into the hands of Etrogen, Assad, and Putin.  As well as ISIS. And is responsible for slaughtering Kurds.

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10 minutes ago, The Observer said:

I saw a video of a Russian soldier in a cave that was occupied by American soldiers last week. He was mocking us. Laughing and saying "Let's see what they had for lunch".  :(  Sad times for America.  Trump played right into the hands of Etrogen, Assad, and Putin.  As well as ISIS. And is responsible for slaughtering Kurds.

But...but...but...Biden! :cry:

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If we aren’t over there anymore what the fock did you think was going to happen to those bases? They would be taken over. Who gives a fock 

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5 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

That’s fine. Russians hate Islam. 

Good point 

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4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Good point 

Yep, they are smart like that

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43 minutes ago, The Observer said:

I saw a video of a Russian soldier in a cave that was occupied by American soldiers last week. He was mocking us. Laughing and saying "Let's see what they had for lunch".  :(  Sad times for America.  Trump played right into the hands of Etrogen, Assad, and Putin.  As well as ISIS. And is responsible for slaughtering Kurds.

Since when did lefties become warmongers? 

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3 minutes ago, 12th Man said:

Since when did lefties become warmongers? 

Warmonger? It was pretty damn peaceful over there up until a week ago. When Donald made his deal with erdogan. Hundreds of thousands of displaced citizens and dead Kurds. Who were our allies and fought with us against isis. But oh well. We have those two Trump towers to worry about over there in Turkey. Hopefully erdogen gave him a huge tax break on them. Or a promise to allow expansion of some sort. 

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If Trump went to war, he'd be called a warmonger.  If he doesn't go to war, he is called a traitor. 

You don't have much influence when you cry both ways.

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1 minute ago, The Observer said:

Warmonger? It was pretty damn peaceful over there up until a week ago. When Donald made his deal with erdogan. Hundreds of thousands of displaced citizens and dead Kurds. Who were our allies and fought with us against isis. But oh well. We have those two Trump towers to worry about over there in Turkey. Hopefully erdogen gave him a huge tax break on them. Or a promise to allow expansion of some sort. 

It wasn't t peaceful for our guys over there. You know, the ones you pretend to care about. 

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Just now, riversco said:

If Trump went to war, he'd be called a warmonger.  If he doesn't go to war, he is called a traitor. 

You don't have much influence when you cry both ways.

Newbie is a liberal. It's his job to cry.

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8 minutes ago, riversco said:

If Trump went to war, he'd be called a warmonger.  If he doesn't go to war, he is called a traitor. 

You don't have much influence when you cry both ways.

what was he being called when he was leaving things the way they were? The way that actual generals who know what they're talking about put in place?

Instead of seeking advice from people with a bit of military knowledge, a guy who faked bone spurs to get out of going to war is making these kinds of decisions. Trump needs to just stay out of anything international. He has zero knowledge of anything. He is a real estate broker. That's it. 

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 

 

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Ima come right out and support the withdrawal from Syria. There will always be a reason for us to stay, but we never seem to get anything out of it except costs and grief. Just cut your losses and pull out. On this one Trump is correct. :thumbsup: 

Unfortunately he is dead wrong in sending troops over to Saudi Arabia.  He must have some luxury hotels over there or something. 

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Pat Buchanan's Latest:

President Donald Trump could have been more deft and diplomatic in how he engineered that immediate pullout from northeastern Syria.

Yet that withdrawal was as inevitable as were its consequences.

A thousand U.S. troops and their Kurdish allies were not going to dominate indefinitely the entire northeast quadrant of a country the size of Syria against the will of the Damascus regime and army.

Had the U.S. refused to vacate Syrian lands on Turkey’s demand, a fight would be inevitable, whether with Turkey, Damascus or both. And this nation would neither support nor sustain a new war with Turks or Syrians.

And whenever the Americans did leave, the Kurds, facing a far more powerful Turkey, were going to have to negotiate the best deal they could with Syria’s Bashar Assad.

Nor was President Recep Erdogan of Turkey going to allow Syrian Kurds to roost indefinitely just across his southern border, cheek by jowl with the Turkish Kurds of the PKK that Erdogan regards as a terrorist threat to the unity and survival of his country.

It was Russia that stepped in to broker the deal whereby the Kurds stood down and let the Syrian army take over their positions and defend Syria’s border regions against the Turks.

Some ISIS prisoners under Kurdish control have escaped.

But if the Syrian army takes custody of these prisoners from their Kurdish guards, those ISIS fighters and their families will suffer fates that these terrorists have invited.

Denunciation of Erdogan for invading Syria is almost universal. Congress is clamoring for sanctions. NATO allies are cutting off weapons sales. But before we act, some history should be revisited.

Turkey has been a NATO ally, a treaty ally, for almost seven decades. The Kurds are not. Turkish troops fought alongside us in Korea. Turkey hosted Jupiter missiles targeted on Russia in the Cold War, nuclear missiles we withdrew as our concession in the secret JFK-Khrushchev deal that ended the Cuban missile crisis.

The Turks accepted the U.S. weapons, and then accepted their removal.

 

The Turks have the second-largest army in NATO. They are a nation of 80 million, a bridge between Europe and the Middle East. They dominate the Dardanelles and the Bosphorus, the entrance to and exit from the Black Sea for all U.S. and Russian warships.

U.S. warplanes are based at Turkey’s Incirlik air base, as are 50 U.S. nuclear weapons. And Turkey harbors millions of refugees from the Syrian civil war, whom Erdogan keeps from crossing into Europe.

Moreover, Erdogan’s concern over the Syrian Kurdish combat veterans on his border should be understood by us. When Pancho Villa launched his murderous 1916 raid into Columbus, New Mexico, we sent General “Black Jack” Pershing with an army deep into Mexico to run him down.

With no allies left fighting on our side in Syria, the small U.S. military force there is likely to be withdrawn swiftly and fully.

Today, the Middle East and world have been awakened to the reality that when Trump said he was ending everlasting commitments and bringing U.S. troops home from “endless wars,” he was not bluffing.

The Saudis got the message when the U.S., in response to a missile and drone strike from Iran or Iranian-backed militias, which shut down half of Riyadh’s oil production, did nothing.

Said Washington, this is between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Hence, it was stunning that the administration, at the end of last week, under fire from both parties in the House and Senate for “abandoning” the Kurds, announced the deployment of 1,500 to 3,000 troops to Saudi Arabia to bolster the kingdom’s defense against missile attacks.

The only explanation for the contradiction is Sen. Henry Ashurst’s maxim: “The clammy hand of consistency should never rest for long upon the shoulder of a statesman.”

Yet, this latest U.S. deployment notwithstanding, Saudi Arabia has got the message: Trump will sell them all the weapons they can buy, but no Saudi purchase ensures that the Yanks will come and fight their wars.

Thus, the Saudis have begun negotiating with the Houthi rebels, with whom they have been at war in Yemen since 2015. And they are seeking talks with Iran. A diplomatic resolution of quarrels seems to have come to commend itself to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, once he learned that the Americans do not regard Saudis as we do NATO allies.

Undeniably, the decisions — not to retaliate against Iran for the attack on Riyadh’s oil facilities, and the decision to terminate abruptly the alliance with Syria’s Kurds — sent shock waves to the world.

Where the Americans spent much of the Cold War ruminating about an “agonizing reappraisal” of commitments to malingering allies, this time the Yanks may be deadly serious.

This time, the Americans may really be going home.

Every nation that today believes it has an implied or a treaty guarantee that the U.S. will fight on its behalf should probably recheck its hole card.

 

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1 hour ago, MDC said:

Ima come right out and support the withdrawal from Syria. There will always be a reason for us to stay, but we never seem to get anything out of it except costs and grief. Just cut your losses and pull out. 

I realize you had to get at least a dig in on Trump after this part, but kudos on being consistent.  :thumbsup:

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2 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

You know, the hostile foreign power that helped him win the 2016 election?

He even gave them our bases!


 

CEYLANPINAR, Turkey — Russia said on Tuesday that its military units were patrolling territory in northern Syria vacated by the Americans following the withdrawal ordered by President Trump, underscoring the sudden loss of United States influence in the eight-year-old Syria war.

The Americans had until Monday maintained two military bases in the area, and Russia’s announcement signaled that Moscow, the Syrian government’s most important ally, was moving to fill a security void left by the withdrawal of both the American military and its partners in their effort to destroy the Islamic State and its Syrian base.

Videos circulating on social mediaappeared to show a Russian-speaking man filming himself walking around a recently evacuated United States military base in northern Syria, punctuating the message that the Russians were now in charge.

President Trump decided last week to abruptly yank American forces from a Kurdish enclave of northern Syria, ending a longstanding alliance with Syrian Kurdish fighters regarded by Turkey as terrorists. Turkey’s military then invaded, driving tens of thousands of civilians from their homes and forcing the Syrian Kurdish fighters to align themselves with the Syrian military in a stunning switch of allegiances for survival.

You stumbled right out of the gate with that lie.

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2 hours ago, The Observer said:

I saw a video of a Russian soldier in a cave that was occupied by American soldiers last week. He was mocking us. Laughing and saying "Let's see what they had for lunch".  :(  Sad times for America.  Trump played right into the hands of Etrogen, Assad, and Putin.  As well as ISIS. And is responsible for slaughtering Kurds.

Wow those Russians sure showed us. They are in a cave we took a sh1t in at one time. So sad for America how will life go on here knowing Russia is in total control of a Focking cave.

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The Kurds are treacherous and untrustworthy in their own right.  They made their own bed.  Now they'll run to reconcile with the Syrian gov't.

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1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

Wow those Russians sure showed us. They are in a cave we took a sh1t in at one time. So sad for America how will life go on here knowing Russia is in total control of a cave.

Two of our biggest enemies, Russia and Iran, lucked into the fact that the US elected one of the dumbest MFers on the planet and gifted them (not even sold, but gifted) their interests a and assets in the area.  They are all having a great laugh at our expenses. Although the Kurds aren't laughing. They're getting to watch their women get hang raped and murdered before getting killed themselves.  MAGA!!

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1 minute ago, Casual Observer said:

The Kurds are treacherous and untrustworthy in their own right.  They made their own bed.  Now they'll run to reconcile with the Syrian gov't.

And didn't even help us at Normandy. 😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬

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2 hours ago, The Observer said:

Warmonger? It was pretty damn peaceful over there up until a week ago. When Donald made his deal with erdogan. Hundreds of thousands of displaced citizens and dead Kurds. Who were our allies and fought with us against isis. But oh well. We have those two Trump towers to worry about over there in Turkey. Hopefully erdogen gave him a huge tax break on them. Or a promise to allow expansion of some sort. 

It was?  Here I thought the Syrian gov't. and its invited Russian allies were still waging a war against Western-backed jihadis, especially in the northeast of the country.

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2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Two of our biggest enemies, Russia and Iran, lucked into the fact that the US elected one of the dumbest MFers on the planet and gifted them (not even sold, but gifted) their interests a and assets in the area.  They are all having a great laugh at our expenses. Although the Kurds aren't laughing. They're getting to watch their women get hang raped and murdered before getting killed themselves.  MAGA!!

You'd better grab your rifle and get over there ASAP.

 

Also, spelling error.

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3 minutes ago, The Observer said:

And didn't even help us at Normandy. 😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬

Time for you to log off, shithead.  You've put in 16 hours online today and you're getting punchy.

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16 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Two of our biggest enemies, Russia and Iran, lucked into the fact that the US elected one of the dumbest MFers on the planet and gifted them (not even sold, but gifted) their interests a and assets in the area.  They are all having a great laugh at our expenses. Although the Kurds aren't laughing. They're getting to watch their women get hang raped and murdered before getting killed themselves.  MAGA!!

Now they know bow ambassador Steven's feels. 

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17 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

You'd better grab your rifle and get over there ASAP.

 

Also, spelling error.

:lol:

No way. Just like the “kids in cages,” he doesn’t give a fock about any of them. He says he does, but only so he can complain about the guy who hasn’t affected his life one iota.

Gotta say, it’s amusing to read the crap he comes up with. If I’m bored, I can count on him for some comedy.

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27 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Two of our biggest enemies, Russia and Iran, lucked into the fact that the US elected one of the dumbest MFers on the planet and gifted them (not even sold, but gifted) their interests a and assets in the area.  They are all having a great laugh at our expenses. Although the Kurds aren't laughing. They're getting to watch their women get hang raped and murdered before getting killed themselves.  MAGA!!

If you saw this on ABC News it was prolly just footage from an old snuff film.

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I have no problem with pulling out of Syria. Just for the record. 

But let's not pretend for a minute that if Hillary was president, and did the same thing, the righties here would be calling her a gutless Cuck, and lamenting how weak we are with a woman president. Meanwhile the lefties would be advocating a Nobel peace prize.

This is all just Hackery on both sides. 

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9 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I have no problem with pulling out of Syria. Just for the record. 

But let's not pretend for a minute that if Hillary was president, and did the same thing, the righties here would be calling her a gutless Cuck, and lamenting how weak we are with a woman president. Meanwhile the lefties would be advocating a Nobel peace prize.

This is all just Hackery on both sides. 

Not me Ke-moh-sabee. I don't think Americans should even be allowed to travel to the Middle East.  The ones that do shouldn't be allowed back. Except Israel. 

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6 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

You know, the hostile foreign power that helped him win the 2016 election?

He even gave them our bases!


 

CEYLANPINAR, Turkey — Russia said on Tuesday that its military units were patrolling territory in northern Syria vacated by the Americans following the withdrawal ordered by President Trump, underscoring the sudden loss of United States influence in the eight-year-old Syria war.

The Americans had until Monday maintained two military bases in the area, and Russia’s announcement signaled that Moscow, the Syrian government’s most important ally, was moving to fill a security void left by the withdrawal of both the American military and its partners in their effort to destroy the Islamic State and its Syrian base.

Videos circulating on social mediaappeared to show a Russian-speaking man filming himself walking around a recently evacuated United States military base in northern Syria, punctuating the message that the Russians were now in charge.

President Trump decided last week to abruptly yank American forces from a Kurdish enclave of northern Syria, ending a longstanding alliance with Syrian Kurdish fighters regarded by Turkey as terrorists. Turkey’s military then invaded, driving tens of thousands of civilians from their homes and forcing the Syrian Kurdish fighters to align themselves with the Syrian military in a stunning switch of allegiances for survival.

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