kilroy69 1,268 Posted December 26, 2019 Cnn used to be my go to. During the first gulf war if cnn told me the sky was falling I would have believed them. Now. If they say it's dark outside I am checking just to make sure...and I'll be a racist for doing so according to them. Fox,Wapo,nyt,MSNBC ,ny post, Yahoo , cnn. None of these are legit sources of real news anymore. Who you got? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted December 26, 2019 None. You need to get your info from a variety of sources. Everything you listed above is a nonstarter. They are corrupt propaganda machines. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,094 Posted December 26, 2019 I get all my news from the Geek Club. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,268 Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: None. You need to get your info from a variety of sources. Everything you listed above is a nonstarter. They are corrupt propaganda machines. I do this now. I look for articles that are clearly written and do not include opinion or Twitter quotes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,268 Posted December 26, 2019 I used to really like NPR but they have taken a hard left turn. It's hard for me to listen to them anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,268 Posted December 26, 2019 I'm looking for something that is not an echo chamber for one view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted December 26, 2019 I've heard good things about Christianity Today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 26, 2019 I don't think it's about if they are non partisan or not. It depends if they are telling the truth or not. CNN and MSN lie constantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,268 Posted December 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, sderk said: I don't think it's about if they are non partisan or not. It depends if they are telling the truth or not. CNN and MSN lie constantly. Ok. How about a news source that lets the story tell itself. I don't need a slant or an opinion. I need facts. I can form my own damn opinion given the correct facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted December 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: Ok. How about a news source that lets the story tell itself. I don't need a slant or an opinion. I need facts. I can form my own damn opinion given the correct facts. It doesn't exist. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted December 26, 2019 That's never existed. People are just getting sophisticated enough to realize it. The truth is, all we have EVER had is tribal warfare in media between different factions, each attempting to fake authenticity. They attack each other or sometimes forge alliances to attack a bigger target together. They prey on people who believe objectivity exists. All of it driven by power Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,193 Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, kilroy69 said: Cnn used to be my go to. During the first gulf war if cnn told me the sky was falling I would have believed them. Now. If they say it's dark outside I am checking just to make sure...and I'll be a racist for doing so according to them. Fox,Wapo,nyt,MSNBC ,ny post, Yahoo , cnn. None of these are legit sources of real news anymore. Who you got? you have probably changed more than CNN. Words have meaning, its your job to comprehend them. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,935 Posted December 26, 2019 Lemonparty.org is usually a trio of good sources. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,081 Posted December 26, 2019 I go to all of them..CNN, Fox News, Yahoo USA Today. None are without bias. But I try to read the articles for information, and shun opinion. It's unfortunate that opinion is spun so deeply into some sites (like CNN) but I can usually spot them. at 52, I don't need CNN or anyone else telling me how I should think or feel about any particular topic. Just give me the info, and I will make up my own mind. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,483 Posted December 26, 2019 realclearpolitics.com gathers headlines that link to sources on both the left and right as well as all the polling info. The left wing sources they link to are often times sites listed in the OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted December 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, edjr said: 0 Not everyone has time to check out your Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,268 Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Herbivore said: you have probably changed more than CNN. Words have meaning, its your job to comprehend them. Not even close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,896 Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Cdub100 said: Not everyone has time to check out your my hwhat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, edjr said: my hwhat? We can't say buthole here? What is this fbg? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,896 Posted December 26, 2019 Just now, Cdub100 said: We can't say buthole here? What is this fbg? :lol: gotcha. Balloon knot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 26, 2019 Find the actual journalists on twitter like Techno Fog, Mollie Hemingway, John Solomon, etc.... They post facts with documentary evidence. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,867 Posted December 26, 2019 Conservative Treehouse and Q Anon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,935 Posted December 26, 2019 41 minutes ago, MDC said: Conservative Treehouse and Q Anon. Morning Joe seems pretty balanced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,268 Posted December 26, 2019 2 hours ago, supermike80 said: I go to all of them..CNN, Fox News, Yahoo USA Today. None are without bias. But I try to read the articles for information, and shun opinion. It's unfortunate that opinion is spun so deeply into some sites (like CNN) but I can usually spot them. at 52, I don't need CNN or anyone else telling me how I should think or feel about any particular topic. Just give me the info, and I will make up my own mind. This is me. 9 years younger. This is what I do daily. But it seems like there should be a news aggregator that can filter out the biased stories. Or am I just wishing too much? Seriously. You mean to tell me we have AI that can figure out complex math problems but can't pick out the obvious bias and set up a news service around that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,935 Posted December 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: This is me. 9 years younger. This is what I do daily. But it seems like there should be a news aggregator that can filter out the biased stories. Or am I just wishing too much? Seriously. You mean to tell me we have AI that can figure out complex math problems but can't pick out the obvious bias and set up a news service around that? Yeah it would be nice if you had a journalist that would discuss a topic, bring on both sides and then have that journalist almost be moderator to say "now the democrats will see it this way and the republicans will see it in this way" and then just leave it up to the freaking viewer to form their view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,081 Posted December 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: This is me. 9 years younger. This is what I do daily. But it seems like there should be a news aggregator that can filter out the biased stories. Or am I just wishing too much? I'm ok with the bias..It's just who people are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,268 Posted December 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Yeah it would be nice if you had a journalist that would discuss a topic, bring on both sides and then have that journalist almost be moderator to say "now the democrats will see it this way and the republicans will see it in this way" and then just leave it up to the freaking viewer to form their view. I don't think that's too much to ask. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,268 Posted December 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, supermike80 said: I'm ok with the bias..It's just who people are. It turns me off to the writer immediately. Either side. If I can see the slant I'm not happy. I do not want your opinion and for fuckss sake I don't want that of Twitter. If I wanted that I would seek out the opinion section. Don't mix the two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,081 Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, kilroy69 said: It turns me off to the writer immediately. Either side. If I can see the slant I'm not happy. I do not want your opinion and for fuckss sake I don't want that of Twitter. If I wanted that I would seem out the opinion section. Don't mix the two. Thing is I can usually spot it fast, and when I do, that's one less article I waste my time on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,345 Posted December 26, 2019 CNN & Fox - the real truth is somewhere between them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted December 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Morning Joe seems pretty balanced. You are joking, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,268 Posted December 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Thing is I can usually spot it fast, and when I do, that's one less article I waste my time on. Same here. It's just annoying to me. I find myself wincing when the radio lands on NPR. Breaking myself from NPR has been harder than any addiction I have ever had. I started at 16 and I want it to still be click and clack and prairie home companion and science Friday. It's just not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,094 Posted December 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Masshole said: You are joking, right? You have 57 post. That's one to many. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted December 27, 2019 9 hours ago, riversco said: That's never existed. People are just getting sophisticated enough to realize it. The truth is, all we have EVER had is tribal warfare in media between different factions, each attempting to fake authenticity. They attack each other or sometimes forge alliances to attack a bigger target together. They prey on people who believe objectivity exists. All of it driven by power I don’t know. It’s seem Ted Turner created this media circus when he turned news entertainment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 827 Posted December 27, 2019 5 hours ago, kilroy69 said: This is me. 9 years younger. This is what I do daily. But it seems like there should be a news aggregator that can filter out the biased stories. Or am I just wishing too much? Who will determine which stories are biased? Is there any scenario in which everyone agrees on that person? And is there any scenario in which a side doesn’t accuse that aggregator of being extremely biased? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,871 Posted December 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, cbfalcon said: Who will determine which stories are biased? Is there any scenario in which everyone agrees on that person? And is there any scenario in which a side doesn’t accuse that aggregator of being extremely biased? You. Nope. Folks have picked sides. For good reason now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 27, 2019 19 hours ago, Herbivore said: you have probably changed more than CNN. Words have meaning, its your job to comprehend them. What if CNN tells us it's illegal to read some words and we should depend on them to read CNN to read and interpret them for us ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,911 Posted December 27, 2019 I reject socialism and hatred for America. It’s easy to figure out who’s pushing those type of things. We are at a point in our history where you pick a side. Stop trying to act like we’re not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted December 27, 2019 I don't think that you can trust the media now to have no bias. Look at a couple of different ones if you are looking at something that has an opinion to it. I usually try to triangulate across a CNN, Fox, Reuters group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites