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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

18 months later and you still don’t know that death reporting lags?  The 2021 number is going to go up.  

I am quite sure it "lags" long enough for you to obfuscate, then deny, then forget, then lie. 

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3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I agree, unfortunately it’s largely the people not getting the vaccine that are prolonging it.  It’s currently still much worse than the flu.   The most flu deaths in the past 10 years was 61k.  We’ve had about 70k covid deaths just in the last 3 months when it was summer.

Bullshit.  Especially when the gov't. no longer tracks breakthrough cases and/or you define unvaccinated as having been vaccinated more than two weeks ago.

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1 hour ago, TimmySmith said:

I am quite sure it "lags" long enough for you to obfuscate, then deny, then forget, then lie. 

Can you share the same numbers you just did but for the week ending 8/28?

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5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Can you share the same numbers you just did but for the week ending 8/28?

Your link, your numbers, and when I quote them, suddenly they are wrong.  Then you want to cherry pick others.  You're a joke.

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Former CDC commissioner admits the 6 foot distancing rule was arbitrary:

And they wonder why no one listens to the government on this anymore.....

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38 minutes ago, Strike said:

Former CDC commissioner admits the 6 foot distancing rule was arbitrary:

And they wonder why no one listens to the government on this anymore.....

Or that the FDA knows that J&J and pfizer vaccines lose efficiency and booster shots help, but they won't approve them to avoid upsetting WHO. 

The FDA does not care about our health.

 

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1 hour ago, TimmySmith said:

Your link, your numbers, and when I quote them, suddenly they are wrong.  Then you want to cherry pick others.  You're a joke.

You must have missed this part from the link - 

"Number of deaths reported in this table are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis, and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period. Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more."

 

Honestly checking the numbers I'm not even sure what numbers you're looking at.   Looking at the file (CSV for Excel), your 2020 numbers are correct but "the second week of September" (week ending 9/11/21) only shows 756 total deaths for 25-44, due to the reporting lag.  And actually to answer my previous question it looks like the 8/28 data isn't complete yet either.

 

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58 minutes ago, Strike said:

Former CDC commissioner admits the 6 foot distancing rule was arbitrary:

And they wonder why no one listens to the government on this anymore.....

Gottleib is a paid shill and making millions on pfizers payroll. Should be publicly hung alongside fraud fauci.

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44 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

Or that the FDA knows that J&J and pfizer vaccines lose efficiency and booster shots help, but they won't approve them to avoid upsetting WHO. 

The FDA does not care about our health.

 

I don't follow; why would the WHO be upset with boosters?

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1 hour ago, Strike said:

Former CDC commissioner admits the 6 foot distancing rule was arbitrary:

And they wonder why no one listens to the government on this anymore.....

I always figured that was arbitrary.  Hell, they came out with that early on, back when they were bouncing between masks/no masks every other week.  Good international number to use as well because it is close enough to 2 meters.

It also reminded me of when doctors confidently tell you your baby's problem is "colic".  Colic is a catchall for "we don't know what's wrong with your baby, but if we call it colic and do it confidently, you'll be assuaged that we know what we are talking about.  Most likely it is nothing and your baby will get better, and we are betting on that outcome."  

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22 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

Maybe they have figured out that they are a miserable failure, are certainly not the answer as treatment is and ivermectin works.

Or maybe they don't want to be the one holding the failed jab bag.

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1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

I don't follow; why would the WHO be upset with boosters?

Maybe they are more upset that they look like complete fools for buying the BS that fauci, pfizer, moderna and the CDC were shoveling into their mouths.

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54 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

Interesting, that presents a bit of a moral dilemma.  If we believe boosters will save American lives, will we sacrifice those for others?  And if those others are from countries who contribute negative billions of dollars to the world?  What if the future curer of cancer, Covid, or death itself dies of Covid so that some goat focker in Smearedshitostan can get the jab? :dunno: 

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It really wasn't a tough call.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/09/19/could-pfizer-and-merck-be-big-winners-with-covid-p/?source=eptyholnk0000202&utm_source=yahoo-host&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=article

Brian Orelli: I think if Pfizer and Merck are successful, I think they could probably charge a lot for these treatments 

Oh really? What a surprise.

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On 9/17/2021 at 11:48 PM, naomi said:

Perfectly sums it up.

 

It's not a never ending vaccine, at least not yet.   Boosters so far only recommended for 65+ and immunocompromised

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44 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

It's not a never ending vaccine, at least not yet.   Boosters so far only recommended for 65+ and immunocompromised

Now you're not even trying... :( 

Do you ever think:  gee, I used to think people who questioned long term issues from the vaccines are whack jobs, but one long term issue with the Pfizer vaccine is that it is not long term; apparently nobody foresaw the waning effectiveness.  Yet the FDA has thoroughly tested it up, down, and sideways.  

Just wondering. :dunno:

 

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2 hours ago, TimmySmith said:

Any politician who buys or even owns stock in any health company right now, should be on trial.

Hopefully DeSantis doesn’t have any stock in Regeneron

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1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Now you're not even trying... :( 

Do you ever think:  gee, I used to think people who questioned long term issues from the vaccines are whack jobs, but one long term issue with the Pfizer vaccine is that it is not long term; apparently nobody foresaw the waning effectiveness.  Yet the FDA has thoroughly tested it up, down, and sideways.  

Just wondering. :dunno:

 

I don’t think “nobody foresaw that coming.”   I’m sure many thought it may need to be yearly like many other vaccines (if mass vaccination was even necessary in 2022 which it still may not be for lower risk groups). But if it does truly wane at ~6 months in the old and immunocompromised then yes that was probably quicker than many hoped

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Pfizer just recalled a sh!t ton of Chantix, the smoking cessation pills.  They recommend patients continue taking what they have though because stopping smoking is more important.  Recalled because it causes cancer.  You can't make this up.

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4 hours ago, Fireballer said:

"Feeling the spirit" will now be my excuse for being maskless.  Brilliance from an arrogant elite POS.

 

ya ga ga bo. Why yall thinkin I would think about wearin a mask? I was jammin. So I be forgivin. But you must wear one no matter what. 

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7 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Hopefully DeSantis doesn’t have any stock in Regeneron

:lol:. No one mentioned party affiliation but you botcuck.  Go back to your safespace at antifagays, liar.

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8 hours ago, Gepetto said:

Pfizer just recalled a sh!t ton of Chantix, the smoking cessation pills.  They recommend patients continue taking what they have though because stopping smoking is more important.  Recalled because it causes cancer.  You can't make this up.

And people trust their jab juice.😆

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4 hours ago, TimmySmith said:

:lol:. No one mentioned party affiliation but you botcuck.  Go back to your safespace at antifagays, liar.

You know it is embarrassing to admit you vote Liberal when Tim has never made a pro conservative post yet makes daily pro liberal posts.  But then claims he voted Trump.  He is a complicated fella.  

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8 hours ago, Gepetto said:

Pfizer just recalled a sh!t ton of Chantix, the smoking cessation pills.  They recommend patients continue taking what they have though because stopping smoking is more important.  Recalled because it causes cancer.  You can't make this up.

And how did they find this out?  Drum roll, please....tracking long term side effects!  

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25 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

You know it is embarrassing to admit you vote Liberal when Tim has never made a pro conservative post yet makes daily pro liberal posts.  But then claims he voted Trump.  He is a complicated fella.  

By his 2nd post it became clear that all his bs data takes a way back seat to him simply shilling for his lib masters. Thus all the lies, because none of this is based on data or science. 

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5 hours ago, TimmySmith said:

:lol:. No one mentioned party affiliation but you botcuck.  Go back to your safespace at antifagays, liar.

I didn't mention party affiliation either.  I mentioned the governor of a state who is pushing Regeneron and not the vaccine, but whose state accounted for about 27% of the covid deaths in the entire country in August, despite making up less than 7% of the population. 

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56 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

By his 2nd post it became clear that all his bs data takes a way back seat to him simply shilling for his lib masters. Thus all the lies, because none of this is based on data or science. 

TDS is the answer. Every liberal has it to some degree and it never stops getting worse as time goes by. No vaccine for that.

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48 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

TDS is the answer. Every liberal has it to some degree and it never stops getting worse as time goes by. No vaccine for that.

And yet you guys are the main ones bringing up Trump recently...

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2 hours ago, Fireballer said:

And how did they find this out?  Drum roll, please....tracking long term side effects!  

I don't know why they're still telling people to take it if it's recalled, but technically it doesn't look like there were any claims that the drug itself caused any cancers, just that it contained an ingredient that may.

So you're saying you're never going to take a drug that hasn't been tested for 20 years first?

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

I didn't mention party affiliation either.  I mentioned the governor of a state who is pushing Regeneron and not the vaccine, but whose state accounted for about 27% of the covid deaths in the entire country in August, despite making up less than 7% of the population. 

Desantis is not pushing the vaccine?  :dunno:

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