nobody 2,694 Posted January 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Yeah I get it he’s talking about that now but they also told us that the first one was going to prevent people from getting Covid. Also the CEO of Pfizer isn’t even a scientist No no after the fact they changed it to the whole goal was to prevent serious illness, so apparently when they were touring their 97% effectiveness it was against getting serious covid and not just pūssy covid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,704 Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, nobody said: No no after the fact they changed it to the whole goal was to prevent serious illness, so apparently when they were touring their 97% effectiveness it was against getting serious covid and not just pūssy covid? When the Covid shot came out we were told it would prevent us from getting COVID. When people who had the shot started getting Covid they changed their narrative to, it reduces the symptoms. That is when I decided that I would definitely not get the jab. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,871 Posted January 19, 2022 9 hours ago, KSB2424 said: I’m surrounded by sick or Covid positive people right now. Lots of people at work and half my neighbourhood. It’s just a matter of time, whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,492 Posted January 19, 2022 On 1/17/2022 at 8:42 AM, jerryskids said: The government will make available free rapid tests to ship to your home; ordering starts 1/19. https://www.covidtests.gov/ I did a little research on the accuracy of these; this from a CDC study: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7003e3.htm What this means is if you test positive, you pretty much have it if you are symptomatic (PPV = Positive Predictive Value = 100%) and likely have it if asymptomatic (PPV = 91.7%). NPV was good as well. Here is a good educational site on sensitivity, specificity, and predictive values: https://online.stat.psu.edu/stat507/lesson/10/10.3 I know many of you won't care but perhaps you have others in your life who, like me, could benefit from early confirmation a therapeutic treatments. Order now, website live. Will update when/if mine arrive. For sale to the highest bidder soon after. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,851 Posted January 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Horseman said: Order now, website live. Will update when/if mine arrive. For sale to the highest bidder soon after. Thanks for the heads up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted January 19, 2022 11 hours ago, KSB2424 said: I’m surrounded by sick or Covid positive people right now. Lots of people at work and half my neighbourhood. It’s just a matter of time, whatever. Same. We’re heading to Florida Saturday morning. As long as our trip isn’t ruined, I don’t care when I get it again… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 19, 2022 UK prime minister just ended mask mandatesin the UK. he says they were led astray by false modeling in the science industry and is fixing that now. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/covid-latest-news-coronavirus-restrictions-tests-cases-vaccine/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: UK prime minister just ended mask mandatesin the UK. he says they were led astray by false modeling in the science industry and is fixing that now. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/covid-latest-news-coronavirus-restrictions-tests-cases-vaccine/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted January 19, 2022 My son was scheduled to have a surgery in two weeks. It was just was postponed until March. Not because there are no hospital beds, there are plenty. It’s because half of the staff (nurses) who are triple vaccinated all have COVID. There isn’t enough staff. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted January 19, 2022 Ergo having a mask mandate when masks barely work is stupid and NOT science. Until there is a vaccine that TRULY immunizes you to disease, any talk of mandates is dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,929 Posted January 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: My son was scheduled to have a surgery in two weeks. It was just was postponed until March. Not because there are no hospital beds, there are plenty. It’s because half of the staff (nurses) who are triple vaccinated all have COVID. There isn’t enough staff. How do you know they're all triple vaccinated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: How do you know they're all triple vaccinated? Okay, AT LEAST double jabbed. They fired all the ones that were not, it was on the news. Duke University Hospital. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364 Posted January 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: How do you know they're all triple vaccinated? because he lives where its mandatory or they get fired Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted January 19, 2022 Timmah! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Fireballer 2,643 Posted January 19, 2022 No means no. Stop the vaccine rape culture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: How do you know they're all triple vaccinated? Still pimping the useless garbage or have ya given up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,935 Posted January 19, 2022 3 hours ago, JustinCharge said: UK prime minister just ended mask mandatesin the UK. he says they were led astray by false modeling in the science industry and is fixing that now. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/covid-latest-news-coronavirus-restrictions-tests-cases-vaccine/ I got called a lot of bad names for my anti-mask stance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted January 19, 2022 20 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Yeah I get it he’s talking about that now but they also told us that the first one was going to prevent people from getting Covid. Also the CEO of Pfizer isn’t even a scientist https://rumble.com/vse7ik-pfizer-ceo-finally-admits-truth-lib-heads-absolutely-explode.html By the time these idiots get a dose of juice for Omicron, it will have mutated to the point the crapola is once again useless. The good news is that the idiots that take it and die from myocardits, we want dead to begin with. Less D voters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,492 Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Cdub100 said: I got called a lot of bad names for my anti-mask stance. Same. Anyone that has been trained to use N95 masks for particulates knows what a joke it was from the very beginning for anything airborne. Which should* include all those doctors and scientists. Still can't fathom how we put up with being lied to. All the rubes that work cloth masks for two full years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted January 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Horseman said: Same. Anyone that has been trained to use N95 masks for particulates knows what a joke it was from the very beginning for anything airborne. Which should* include all those doctors and scientists. Still can't fathom how we put up with being lied to. All the rubes that work cloth masks for two full years. There is data out there that shows that cloth masks did provide some level of protection against OG covid. Don't try and rewrite history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,492 Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: There is data out there that shows that cloth masks did provide some level of protection against OG covid. Don't try and rewrite history. See bold: 5 hours ago, JustinCharge said: UK prime minister just ended mask mandatesin the UK. he says they were led astray by false modeling in the science industry and is fixing that now. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/covid-latest-news-coronavirus-restrictions-tests-cases-vaccine/ I'll step you or any other rube through the real science if you'd like. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted January 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Horseman said: See bold: I'll step you or any other rube through the real science if you'd like. Did you read the article? He's talking about lockdowns, quarantines, everything. And yes there was the lie that "If everyone wears a mask for two weeks we end this" which was always ridiculous. I'm just saying, don't take their statement to rewrite history by focusing on cloth masks and how were never effective. All in all, this is a win for data, common sense, and mankind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,492 Posted January 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Did you read the article? He's talking about lockdowns, quarantines, everything. And yes there was the lie that "If everyone wears a mask for two weeks we end this" which was always ridiculous. I'm just saying, don't take their statement to rewrite history by focusing on cloth masks and how were never effective. All in all, this is a win for data, common sense, and mankind. Yeah, all that crap should have been scrapped a long time ago, as soon as the "vaccine" was made available to the vulnerable. What I hope he's saying is we've kicked this stupid can too far down the road. Rip the band aide off! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Did you read the article? He's talking about lockdowns, quarantines, everything. And yes there was the lie that "If everyone wears a mask for two weeks we end this" which was always ridiculous. I'm just saying, don't take their statement to rewrite history by focusing on cloth masks and how were never effective. All in all, this is a win for data, common sense, and mankind. Pedo calls it a win 2 years after the rest of us called it a sham. Our common sense is years ahead of his. We knew this already. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted January 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Pedo calls it a win 2 years after the rest of us called it a sham. Our common sense is years ahead of his. We knew this already. I called it a sham two years ago too, Timmy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted January 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: I called it a sham two years ago too, Timmy. GutterPedoBoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 19, 2022 CDC study of Delta show prior infection is the best defense. 3x greater than Vax. Vax or unvaxx status has no significant bearing on prior infected. COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalizations by COVID-19 Vaccination Status and Previous COVID-19 Diagnosis — California and New York, May–November 2021 | MMWR (cdc.gov) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,492 Posted January 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: I called it a sham two years ago too, Timmy. You just tried to say cloth masks offer some level of protection. Yeah, lace condoms offer some* level of protection too. JFC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, Horseman said: You just tried to say cloth masks offer some level of protection. Yeah, lace condoms offer some* level of protection too. JFC. They did, at one time. The response as an entirety was a disaster, particularly the lockdowns, the school closings, the 6 foot thing, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted January 19, 2022 59 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: There is data out there that shows that cloth masks did provide some level of protection against OG covid. Don't try and rewrite history. Yeah OK. Don't believe anything about masks post-Jan 2020. It's all hype. There's NOTHING different between "OG" covid and any other variant when it comes to respiratory protection. Omicron doesn't mysteriously creep through masks more vs other variants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,492 Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Fireballer said: Yeah OK. Don't believe anything about masks post-Jan 2020. It's all hype. There's NOTHING different between "OG" covid and any other variant when it comes to respiratory protection. Right. And even if your enemy changes and you do nothing with your army, your amount of protection hasn't changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted January 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Yeah OK. Don't believe anything about masks post-Jan 2020. It's all hype. There's NOTHING different between "OG" covid and any other variant when it comes to respiratory protection. Omicron doesn't mysteriously creep through masks more vs other variants. Omicron is more transmissible than OG covid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,492 Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: Omicron is more transmissible than OG covid. The size of the particulates are the same. Thousands of times smaller than what cloth filters. Cloth offers virtually zero protection against any strain of covid. HTH 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted January 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Omicron is more transmissible than OG covid. Oh OK. So tell me how that relates to respiratory protection that is categorized by particle size that it protects against. A piece of cloth doesn't know how transmissible something is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Fireballer said: Oh OK. So tell me how that relates to respiratory protection that is categorized by particle size that it protects against. A piece of cloth doesn't know how transmissible something is. viral load. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted January 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: viral load. So you're saying that viral load is the key factor of what a piece of cloth allows to pass through it??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted January 19, 2022 31 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: viral load. Take the L kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,935 Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, GutterBoy said: There is data out there that shows that cloth masks did provide some level of protection against OG covid. Don't try and rewrite history. Yeah guys they fudge deaths, infections, that it couldn't be transmitted over the air, 3ft vs 6ft, etc.... Etc ...but masks... They had it right. The fact they had it right in the beginning and said masks don't work, then changed it to they do work and even a piece of cloth can stop a microscopic virus and then 2 masks and then 3 mask and then wear the whole focking box to whoops they didn't really work. LMFAO @ Rewrite history. What a focking gullible retard. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Horseman said: The size of the particulates are the same. Thousands of times smaller than what cloth filters. Cloth offers virtually zero protection against any strain of covid. HTH Dr. Marty Makary, talked about that last night. The masks do nothing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites