Coronavirus - Doomsday

[Djgb13 2,339]

Ironic isn’t it? Mass hysteria and liberals worried about coronavirus. But thousands of unvaccinated illegals entering our country isn’t?

[KSB2424 3,148]

Just now, nobody said:

It's not about dying.  I don't think anyone here is concerned about dying. 

It's about the prospect of your community shutting down for a month because there's an outbreak in your city and all the people who don't need to worry about dying can't stand around while 10% of the elderly and diabetic and smokers who get it die.  It's about the economic impact of countries shutting down.  That's lost production in some cases that's not coming back.  If people stop building sh¡t for 3 weeks, that's 3 weeks worth of raw materials that didn't get purchased and 3 weeks worth of goods and services that aren't being bought and sold.

That translates to economic slow down.  So yeah, it's probably a good idea we have a bit of urgency somewhere between panic and "it's all good" when it comes to trying to stave off the spread of this thing.

Thank the lil baby Jesus somebody gets it.  

[Djgb13 2,339]

Just now, nobody said:

It's not about dying.  I don't think anyone here is concerned about dying. 

It's about the prospect of your community shutting down for a month because there's an outbreak in your city and all the people who don't need to worry about dying can't stand around while 10% of the elderly and diabetic and smokers who get it die.  It's about the economic impact of countries shutting down.  That's lost production in some cases that's not coming back.  If people stop building sh¡t for 3 weeks, that's 3 weeks worth of raw materials that didn't get purchased and 3 weeks worth of goods and services that aren't being bought and sold.

That translates to economic slow down.  So yeah, it's probably a good idea we have a bit of urgency somewhere between panic and "it's all good" when it comes to trying to stave off the spread of this thing.

Really? Cause Newbtard apparently is worried about it

 

Also, there is NOT going to be businesses shut down, cities shut down, people losing jobs, etc. None of that’s gonna happen lol. Don’t try and even say it will cause it’s not. Literally, just wash your hands, cover your cough, and if your sick stay home. That’s it. Same as the flu. In fact, 32 million people have been sick with the flu so far this season. 18K dead from it. That’s just this season which is usually starting in sept/oct and runs usually through feb/mar. So roughly 5-7 months. This virus has been going on for how long now? 2 months? How many deaths from this? Roughly around 2800 with majority of those taking place in China were the citizens are poor, malnourished, and don’t have good healthcare. 
 

My point? Coronavirus isn’t a big threat. Especially here. Little bit of advice? Don’t argue with me about diseases and their impacts. You will lose. Literally what I dealt with in the military and what I got my bachelors in. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

11 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Ironic isn’t it? Mass hysteria and liberals worried about coronavirus. But thousands of unvaccinated illegals entering our country isn’t?

Great, great point. But don’t think for a second that newtard or the other libs will have anything to say about it. 

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

Italy is up to a 2.5% mortality rate. Although this is almost certainly because it is in an area of the country that skews older and most likely a large number of undiagnosed cases. On the negative side is that fact that it takes a can take a long time for some people to pass away as per the link in some of my previous posts.

 

https://www.thelocal.it/20200228/italys-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-to-21-as-821-cases-confirmed

[KSB2424 3,148]

8 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Really? Cause Newbtard apparently is worried about it

 

Also, there is NOT going to be businesses shut down, cities shut down, people losing jobs, etc. None of that’s gonna happen lol. Don’t try and even say it will cause it’s not. Literally, just wash your hands, cover your cough, and if your sick stay home. That’s it. Same as the flu. In fact, 32 million people have been sick with the flu so far this season. 18K dead from it. That’s just this season which is usually starting in sept/oct and runs usually through feb/mar. So roughly 5-7 months. This virus has been going on for how long now? 2 months? How many deaths from this? Roughly around 2800 with majority of those taking place in China were the citizens are poor, malnourished, and don’t have good healthcare. 
 

My point? Coronavirus isn’t a big threat. Especially here. Little bit of advice? Don’t argue with me about diseases and their impacts. You will lose. Literally what I dealt with in the military and what I got my bachelors in. 

Are you literate?

[Djgb13 2,339]

Just now, KSB2424 said:

Are you literate?

Are you illiterate? Apparently so if you can’t understand simple sentences

[Djgb13 2,339]

5 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

Italy is up to a 2.5% mortality rate. Although this is almost certainly because it is in an area of the country that skews older.

 

https://www.thelocal.it/20200228/italys-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-to-21-as-821-cases-confirmed

“Most of the victims who have died were elderly, many over the age of 80. Some of them had underlying health conditions including cancer.” 
 

oof. Swing and a miss

 

I’ve been trying to tell you it’s not wise to try and argue with me on this. It’s LITERALLY what I went to school and got a bachelors in while also working in healthcare in the military dealing with stuff like this at Lackland. 

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

1 minute ago, Djgb13 said:

“Most of the victims who have died were elderly, many over the age of 80. Some of them had underlying health conditions including cancer.” 
 

oof. Swing and a miss

 

If only I mentioned that in my post, then I would not have felt so burned.

[Djgb13 2,339]

2 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

If only I mentioned that in my post, then I would not have felt so burned.

Sorry I thought you were trying to say that as an insult/jab at me and didnt realize it actually said it was mostly the elderly in the article. My bad. I apologize

[nobody 2,692]

26 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Really? Cause Newbtard apparently is worried about it 

 

Also, there is NOT going to be businesses shut down, cities shut down, people losing jobs, etc. None of that’s gonna happen lol. Don’t try and even say it will cause it’s not. Literally, just wash your hands, cover your cough, and if your sick stay home. That’s it. Same as the flu. In fact, 32 million people have been sick with the flu so far this season. 18K dead from it. That’s just this season which is usually starting in sept/oct and runs usually through feb/mar. So roughly 5-7 months. This virus has been going on for how long now? 2 months? How many deaths from this? Roughly around 2800 with majority of those taking place in China were the citizens are poor, malnourished, and don’t have good healthcare. 

 

If 32 million people got infected by COVID-19, given the CDC numbers (which, sorry, I trust them more than you despite your degrees), that would mean 600k deaths, but feel free to cut that number in half.  Quarter it.  Doesn't matter.  The US will not let that happen.  Therefore, they will shut sh¡t down.  Switzerland had 1 case and banned gatherings over 1000 people.  Japan has already shut down some of their schools.  China needed to ban travel in and out of Wuhan just to contain it.  They will close stuff down here too.  It's too much of a political issue to not over-react.

By the way are the Japanese malnourished?  Or the South Koreans?  Or the Italians?

[KSB2424 3,148]

1.  People freaking out need to chill out

2.  If you have a parent over 70, or work for a global company or have a 401(k) then this is something worthy of taking seriously and keeping abreast of.

[drobeski 3,061]

4 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

1.  People freaking out need to chill out

2.  If you have a parent over 70, or work for a global company or have a 401(k) then this is something worthy of taking seriously and keeping abreast of.

You don't get it! Trump is bad! This is on him! Dont take that from us! 

[Djgb13 2,339]

3 minutes ago, nobody said:

If 32 million people got infected by COVID-19, given the CDC numbers (which, sorry, I trust them more than you despite your degrees), that would mean 600k deaths, but feel free to cut that number in half.  Quarter it.  Doesn't matter.  The US will not let that happen.  Therefore, they will shut sh¡t down.  Switzerland had 1 case and banned gatherings over 1000 people.  Japan has already shut down some of their schools.  China needed to ban travel in and out of Wuhan just to contain it.  They will close stuff down here too.  It's too much of a political issue to not over-react.

By the way are the Japanese malnourished?  Or the South Koreans?  Or the Italians?

“Most of the victims who have died were elderly, many over the age of 80. Some of them had underlying health conditions including cancer.”

 

Literally from the article Skibum just posted. Elderly, malnourished, underlying medical problems, poor hygiene, etc all contribute to the deaths. 
 

Bruh just give it up. You won’t win this one I’m telling. Best to do is chill out, drink a beer, and not worry about it here in the US. We are fine and we will be fine. Unless your pushing 60+ and plan on traveling to overseas anytime soon then you have nothing to worry about 

[Voltaire 5,322]

28 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

“Most of the victims who have died were elderly, many over the age of 80. Some of them had underlying health conditions including cancer.” 
 

oof. Swing and a miss

 

I’ve been trying to tell you it’s not wise to try and argue with me on this. It’s LITERALLY what I went to school and got a bachelors in while also working in healthcare in the military dealing with stuff like this at Lackland. 

I remember Army military training as worthless. It was all memorize and braindump and when you finished you were only slightly less clueless than when you went in.

[Utilit99 4,099]

10 minutes ago, nobody said:

By the way are the Japanese malnourished?  Or the South Koreans?  Or the Italians?

What are those numbers? Sounds like you are arguing that every person in those coutries are in tip top shape. Give the objective outsider's numbers.

[Djgb13 2,339]

5 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I remember Army military training as worthless. It was all memorize and braindump and when you finished you were only slightly less clueless than when you went in.

What was your MOS? 
 

And also, that’s army. They aren’t known for their smarts. That’s the AF. Which is what I was in. My training including EMT license and nursing training as well. Once I finished training and become permanent party I could take the state LPN exam and get my LPN license. They trained us really well. And since Lacklands hospital was a level 1 trauma center as well as a big training base I accumulated ALOT of experience there. Especially doing constant quarantine, mass casualty, and active shooter training that involves multiple departments 

[Djgb13 2,339]

4 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

What are those numbers? Sounds like you are arguing that every person in those coutries are in tip top shape. Give the objective outsider's numbers.

I don’t think he even knows. I’ve literally been hitting him with facts and how the whole process works. He seems to have his mind made up. Oh well. I’m heading downtown (massive trump rally in North Charleston tonight so I’m avoiding the outlets and the bars around there). Have a good rest of the night 

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

33 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

1.  People freaking out need to chill out

2.  If you have a parent over 70, or work for a global company or have a 401(k) then this is something worthy of taking seriously and keeping abreast of.

My dad is 62 and has two of the main complication issues as published by WHO. He was my fishing buddy my whole life and is only a few years away from retiring, moving to texas, and getting a boat with me.

 

He is in excellent shape and ran two marathons last year.

 

This focking virus has me worried sick because he has heart disease, hypertension, and is above the age of 60.

 

We are both well off, I have a crap ton of vacation and he just 3 years away from being able to retire, now would be a crappy time for him to pass away.

[Djgb13 2,339]

Just now, MTSkiBum said:

My dad is 62 and has two of the main complication issues as published by WHO. He was my fishing buddy my whole life and is only a few years away from retiring, moving to texas, and getting a boat with me. My dad has been my main fishing and hunting buddy throughout my life.

 

He is in excellent shape for a 62 year old even though he has heart issues and hypertension. He ran two marathons last year.

 

This focking virus has me worried sick because he has heart disease, hypertension, and is above the age of 60.

Monitor him for any signs/symptoms. Main issue people are having is difficulty breathing. It sounds like he has pretty good lungs and in decent shape. He should be ok but I understand your worry. My dads 78 this year with Parkinson’s, seizures, pace maker, and goes into afib like 20% of the time. On top of that, he doesn’t really exercise or eat well. So yea I’m worried about him too but there’s not much you can do to stop the virus. Wash your hands, cover your cough/sneeze, and avoid sick people. Stay home if you’re sick. It won’t be too long before a cure is found. There’s actually a coronavirus 1. This is #2. Was reading a peer reviewed journal article from 2015 earlier today about it 

[Voltaire 5,322]

12 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

What was your MOS? 
 

And also, that’s army. They aren’t known for their smarts. That’s the AF. Which is what I was in. My training including EMT license and nursing training as well. Once I finished training and become permanent party I could take the state LPN exam and get my LPN license. They trained us really well. And since Lacklands hospital was a level 1 trauma center as well as a big training base I accumulated ALOT of experience there. Especially doing constant quarantine, mass casualty, and active shooter training that involves multiple departments 

It doesn't exist anymore it's been rolled into 92 or 96 something.

Anyway, it was 76C Equipment Records and Parts Specialist. I'd work in the motor pool since that's where >90% of the repairs take place but everybody that needed something repaired be it generators or radios or whatever needed fixing would order stuff through me.

[drobeski 3,061]

11 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

He is in excellent shape and ran two marathons last year.

 

he has heart disease, hypertension, and is above the age of 60.

 

No offense but......Multiple choice ?

[Voltaire 5,322]

5 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Monitor him for any signs/symptoms. Main issue people are having is difficulty breathing. It sounds like he has pretty good lungs and in decent shape. He should be ok but I understand your worry. My dads 78 this year with Parkinson’s, seizures, pace maker, and goes into afib like 20% of the time. On top of that, he doesn’t really exercise or eat well. So yea I’m worried about him too but there’s not much you can do to stop the virus. Wash your hands, cover your cough/sneeze, and avoid sick people. Stay home if you’re sick. It won’t be too long before a cure is found. There’s actually a coronavirus 1. This is #2. Was reading a peer reviewed journal article from 2015 earlier today about it 

There's an entire family of coronaviruses. Probably dozens.

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

8 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Monitor him for any signs/symptoms. Main issue people are having is difficulty breathing. It sounds like he has pretty good lungs and in decent shape. He should be ok but I understand your worry. My dads 78 this year with Parkinson’s, seizures, pace maker, and goes into afib like 20% of the time. On top of that, he doesn’t really exercise or eat well. So yea I’m worried about him too but there’s not much you can do to stop the virus. Wash your hands, cover your cough/sneeze, and avoid sick people. Stay home if you’re sick. It won’t be too long before a cure is found. There’s actually a coronavirus 1. This is #2. Was reading a peer reviewed journal article from 2015 earlier today about it 

 

My dad lives in Denver and travels for nationwide for work , nothing I can really do to monitor him.

 

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

There's an entire family of coronaviruses. Probably dozens.

There are 4 common coronavirus in the circulation, this will make #5.

 

Sars and Mers were also coronavirus, but they are not in circulation.

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

5 minutes ago, drobeski said:

No offense but......Multiple choice ?

 

No, in this case heart disease is hereditary. My dad works out daily, eats healthy, is in great shape, but has heart problems. Sadly, I will probably have the same issue some day.

 

I work out, 37 years old, 6'1" 170, and already have borderline hypertension.

[Djgb13 2,339]

1 minute ago, MTSkiBum said:

There are 4 common coronavirus in the circulation, this will make #5.

 

Sars and Mers were also coronavirus, but they are not in circulation.

Yep. Literally forgot to say it’s pretty much SARS

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

2 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

My dad lives in Denver and travels for nationwide for work , nothing I can really do to monitor him.

 

Guys like that ain’t listening anyway. I have one too but older. He’ll be OK. Sucks worrying tough. My dad is actually staying home for now,  but  that’s because of my mom. Otherwise he wouldn’t. 

[Djgb13 2,339]

7 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

It doesn't exist anymore it's been rolled into 92 or 96 something.

Anyway, it was 76C Equipment Records and Parts Specialist. I'd work in the motor pool since that's where >90% of the repairs take place but everybody that needed something repaired be it generators or radios or whatever needed fixing would order stuff through me.

Fock that. I hear the motor pool focking sucks to work out. You guys had to go to formation before work right? And would usually be kept til 1900 or later. Especially if something was missing 

[Djgb13 2,339]

6 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

My dad lives in Denver and travels for nationwide for work , nothing I can really do to monitor him.

 

Yea it’s tough. My mom is there with my dad. She retires next year from being a principal and will just run her store her and her friend/fellow teacher started 

[nobody 2,692]

47 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

“Most of the victims who have died were elderly, many over the age of 80. Some of them had underlying health conditions including cancer.”

 

Literally from the article Skibum just posted. Elderly, malnourished, underlying medical problems, poor hygiene, etc all contribute to the deaths. 
 

Bruh just give it up. You won’t win this one I’m telling. Best to do is chill out, drink a beer, and not worry about it here in the US. We are fine and we will be fine. Unless your pushing 60+ and plan on traveling to overseas anytime soon then you have nothing to worry about 

I get you have a degree.  Do the people working at the CDC not have degrees?

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

Just now, nobody said:

I get you have a degree.  Do the people working at the CDC not have degrees?

They didn’t score a 34 on the ACT.

[nobody 2,692]

34 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

I don’t think he even knows. I’ve literally been hitting him with facts and how the whole process works. He seems to have his mind made up. Oh well. I’m heading downtown (massive trump rally in North Charleston tonight so I’m avoiding the outlets and the bars around there). Have a good rest of the night 

You haven't hit me with facts.  You hit me with, "trust me.  I have a degree."

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

17 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Yep. Literally forgot to say it’s pretty much SARS

 

Except sars has a 10% mortality rate and a  much lower R0 factor. They are both coronavirus's though.

[Djgb13 2,339]

5 minutes ago, nobody said:

You haven't hit me with facts.  You hit me with, "trust me.  I have a degree."

I literally hit with you facts about how many people died from flu, from coronavirus, who has mainly died, how the procedure goes, etc. I’m walking to the bar now though. Have fun 

[Djgb13 2,339]

1 minute ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

Except sars has a 10% mortality rate and a  much lower R0 factor. They are both coronavirus's though.

It was in the journal article I read earlier from 2015. If I remember I’ll post it later. Though I doubt I’ll remember.

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

Just now, Djgb13 said:

It was in the journal article I read earlier from 2015. If I remember I’ll post it later. Though I doubt I’ll remember.

2015 was MERS, 2003 was SARS.

[Djgb13 2,339]

4 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

2015 was MERS, 2003 was SARS.

No I read about SARS and MERS. This is it 

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4369385/

 

Figured id post this before going. Good little read. Have fun bud

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

11 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

No I read about SARS and MERS. This is it 

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4369385/

 

Figured id post this before going. Good little read. Have fun bud

 

If that is the case then you should be a little worried for the same reason that I am worried. I have read many scientific articles about coronavirus's over the last month. I highlighted the main two sentences that stand out to me in the article you linked. They can be found in the Diagnosis, Treatment, and Prevention section if you want to verify. 

 

Quotes below:

Only limited options are available to prevent coronavirus infections. Vaccines have only been approved for IBV, TGEV, and Canine CoV, but these vaccines are not always used because they are either not very effective, or in some cases have been reported to be involved in the selection of novel pathogenic CoVs via recombination of circulating strains.

 

Owing to the lack of effective therapeutics or vaccines, the best measures to control human coronaviruses remain a strong public health surveillance system coupled with rapid diagnostic testing and quarantine when necessary.

 

 

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