Coronavirus - Doomsday

[Djgb13 2,339]

5 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

To keep this number as low as possible we need to prepare as a country. We need to slow the spread to a manageable rate so that the hospitals do not get overwhelmed. This means lots of testing and to shut down public events in cities/areas that become hotspots.

 

The pandemic has not yet started in America, of course the number is 0. However, from the best scientific articles it spreads easier than the flu and is around a thousand times more deadly.

 

It is better to react when there are small amounts of cases than when there are large amounts of cases.

We’ve been doing a good job so far. Out of a the people that were out of the country and contracted it we only have 20 infected with no deaths. At certain bases here in America it takes people a few hours to get through the gate cause they are screening people. Our response has been excellent. Only fear mongering liberals trying to make it seem worse than it is are “upset” and hoping it gets worse so they can go “see! We told you! Trump didn’t handle this well! Haha!” Those types of people are the worst kinda of humans (see newbtard)

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

I can tell you the crazy people in my company are over-reacting to the current situation.  Our stance is that we will be deferring to CDC for guidance and will react based on what they say.  We have not stopped travel for employees and we are not encouraging people to work from home, but we are telling people that, if you are sick, stay home.  That is the same as the guidance from before this virus came to light.  

[posty 2,714]

4 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

but we are telling people that, if you are sick, stay home.

This should be the norm anyway...  You know, common sense??

[The Observer 641]

3 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

I can tell you the crazy people in my company are over-reacting to the current situation.  Our stance is that we will be deferring to CDC for guidance and will react based on what they say.  We have not stopped travel for employees and we are not encouraging people to work from home, but we are telling people that, if you are sick, stay home.  That is the same as the guidance from before this virus came to light.  

I've taken one precaution.  I scrub my hands more often and for a longer time.  That's it.  Oh, and I bought two cans of SPAM at the grocery store Sunday instead of one. 

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

2 minutes ago, posty said:

This should be the norm anyway...  You know, common sense??

The reality is that at least half of the population lacks this most fundamental skill. 

[posty 2,714]

2 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

The reality is that at least half of the population lacks this most fundamental skill. 

Yeah, there is that...

[Djgb13 2,339]

9 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

I can tell you the crazy people in my company are over-reacting to the current situation.  Our stance is that we will be deferring to CDC for guidance and will react based on what they say.  We have not stopped travel for employees and we are not encouraging people to work from home, but we are telling people that, if you are sick, stay home.  That is the same as the guidance from before this virus came to light.  

There’s no need to be concerned like the retard wants you to be. Literally pneumonia is worse. Take the same precautions that you would with the flu. That’s it. That’s all you need to do. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 minute ago, Djgb13 said:

There’s no need to be concerned like the retard wants you to be. Literally pneumonia is worse. Take the same precautions that you would with the flu. That’s it. That’s all you need to do. 

You're crazy!! Coronavirus is a million times more dangerous!!!

[Djgb13 2,339]

1 minute ago, TimmySmith said:

You're crazy!! Coronavirus is a million times more dangerous!!!

I honestly can’t tell if you’re joking or being serious. Need a sarcastic font lol 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Just now, Djgb13 said:

I honestly can’t tell if you’re joking or being serious. Need a sarcastic font lol 

In the last 2 minutes it's now a billion times more dangerous than the flu!!!!!!! 

[Djgb13 2,339]

4 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

In the last 2 minutes it's now a billion times more dangerous than the flu!!!!!!! 

Ah there it is

 

Newbtard has thrown off my faith in common sense lol 

[fandandy 3,313]

Daily summary from ZeroHedge:

British man becomes 6th 'Diamond Princess' passenger to die

Two Japanese dogs tested positive for coronavirus

Mexico confirms 1st virus case

The Netherlands confirms 2 more

Nigeria confirms the first case in sub-Saharan Africa

SK reports more than 1,000 new cases in under 48 hours

Italy cases surpass 700

WHO says virus will 'soon be in all countries'

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

10 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

There’s no need to be concerned like the retard wants you to be. Literally pneumonia is worse. Take the same precautions that you would with the flu. That’s it. That’s all you need to do. 

I am still sticking my thumb up your wife's ass during doggy-style.  I am not going to let this virus change how I operate!!!!!   

[Djgb13 2,339]

2 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

I am still sticking my thumb up your wife's ass during doggy-style.  I am not going to let this virus change how I operate!!!!!   

Careful you don’t fall in 

[The Observer 641]

1 minute ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

I am still sticking my thumb up your wife's ass during doggy-style.  I am not going to let this virus change how I operate!!!!!   

Now you're talking!

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

10 minutes ago, fandandy said:

Daily summary from ZeroHedge:

British man becomes 6th 'Diamond Princess' passenger to die

Two Japanese dogs tested positive for coronavirus

Mexico confirms 1st virus case

The Netherlands confirms 2 more

Nigeria confirms the first case in sub-Saharan Africa

SK reports more than 1,000 new cases in under 48 hours

Italy cases surpass 700

WHO says virus will 'soon be in all countries'

The Diamond Princess is at 1% mortality, and South Korea is now at a .8% mortality.

While this is still ~1000 times higher than the flu, it is half of what it was in mainland China. Hopefully this is good news and as testing methods improve the mortality ticks down.

 

[Strike 5,591]

Wanna know how stupid people are?

https://www.wric.com/health/coronavirus/nearly-40-of-beer-drinking-americans-wont-buy-corona-due-to-coronavirus-study-shows/

[drobeski 3,061]

27 minutes ago, fandandy said:

Daily summary from ZeroHedge:

British man becomes 6th 'Diamond Princess' passenger to die

Two Japanese dogs tested positive for coronavirus

Mexico confirms 1st virus case

The Netherlands confirms 2 more

Nigeria confirms the first case in sub-Saharan Africa

SK reports more than 1,000 new cases in under 48 hours

Italy cases surpass 700

WHO says virus will 'soon be in all countries'

Didn't twitter ban zerohedge for trying to inform the public on this thing. That it wasn't from bat focking soup, that it most likely escaped out of the bioweapons lab in Wuhan ? 

 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

11 minutes ago, Strike said:

Wanna know how stupid people are?

https://www.wric.com/health/coronavirus/nearly-40-of-beer-drinking-americans-wont-buy-corona-due-to-coronavirus-study-shows/

Some stores here pulled it off the shelves. I bought a case of Corona from my local 711 they had put in the back room. 

[fandandy 3,313]

14 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Didn't twitter ban zerohedge for trying to inform the public on this thing. That it wasn't from bat focking soup, that it most likely escaped out of the bioweapons lab in Wuhan ? 

 

Honestly, I don't know.  That site is like scare porn but I love checking it and reading the articles and sometimes even more so, the replies.   

 

27 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

The Diamond Princess is at 1% mortality, and South Korea is now at a .8% mortality.

While this is still ~1000 times higher than the flu, it is half of what it was in mainland China. Hopefully this is good news and as testing methods improve the mortality ticks down.

 

Let's hope this chart holds true for the rest of the world.  I doubt it as China took some seriously drastic measures to contain that might not be possible elsewhere.

https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/CHARTFOUR_0.png?itok=Pt7_ZRjP

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

54 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

There’s no need to be concerned like the retard wants you to be. Literally pneumonia is worse. Take the same precautions that you would with the flu. That’s it. That’s all you need to do. 

Below are some stats on the flu, hopefully you can see the magnitude of difference between the two. Also you know that the major complication of this is pneumonia? You cannot say pneumonia is worse when that is what this is.

 

 

 

At least one in five people worldwide were infected with swine flu during the first year of the 2009-2010 H1N1 pandemic, an international research group said on Friday, but the death rate was just 0.02 percent.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-flu-h1n1-pandemic/swine-flu-infected-1-in-5-death-rate-low-study-shows-idUSBRE90O0T720130125

The mean annual global influenza-associated respiratory mortality rate per 100 000 was 5.9, with regional estimates ranging from 4.5 in Eastern Mediterranean to 6.2 in the Americas (.0059%).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6815659/

[Strike 5,591]

Heard a Dr. from the CO health dept. on the radio today.  Said we'd tested 14 people in CO, there were no active cases, and the risk was low.  Said to do normal things people should be doing already - wash hands with soap, stay home from work if sick, avoid sick people, etc....Said masks aren't really helpful if you're not sick.  They're good for keeping things in but their effectiveness at keeping things out is questionable.  She didn't seem too concerned.  

[The Observer 641]

3 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

Below are some stats on the flu, hopefully you can see the magnitude of difference between the two. Also you know that the major complication of this is pneumonia? You cannot say pneumonia is worse when that is what this is.

 

 

 

He won't

They have their marching orders

[fandandy 3,313]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

They're good for keeping things in but their effectiveness at keeping things out is questionable.

This is what I've wondered too.  How effective are these N95 masks at keeping the virus out?  They are used by drywallers to mitigate dust inhalation.  Do they really even work on microscopic airborne particles?  

[drobeski 3,061]

If Trump was a good leader he would have encouraged the nation to panic, riot, loot and sell all your stocks. 

[The Observer 641]

2 minutes ago, drobeski said:

If Trump was a good leader he would have encouraged the nation to panic, riot, loot and sell all your stocks. 

Immigration- induce panic.  

Muslims- induce panic

socialism- induce panic

Pandmic that could hurt his approval rating and cost him votes-  please remain calm poeople.  Nothing to see here

[Meglamaniac 535]

3 minutes ago, drobeski said:

If Trump was a good leader he would have encouraged the nation to panic, riot, loot and sell all your stocks. 

Don't forget he would have been clairvoyant and known that we needed CV19 tests months ago and what symptoms should be tested. 

[Meglamaniac 535]

2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Immigration- induce panic.  

Muslims- induce panic

socialism- induce panic

 

Is there any evidence of this "induced Panic"

 

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

12 minutes ago, Strike said:

Heard a Dr. from the CO health dept. on the radio today.  Said we'd tested 14 people in CO, there were no active cases, and the risk was low.  Said to do normal things people should be doing already - wash hands with soap, stay home from work if sick, avoid sick people, etc....Said masks aren't really helpful if you're not sick.  They're good for keeping things in but their effectiveness at keeping things out is questionable.  She didn't seem too concerned.  

So, she is still in favor of the thumb up the ass move? 

[nobody 2,692]

27 minutes ago, fandandy said:

Honestly, I don't know.  That site is like scare porn but I love checking it and reading the articles and sometimes even more so, the replies.   

 

Let's hope this chart holds true for the rest of the world.  I doubt it as China took some seriously drastic measures to contain that might not be possible elsewhere.

https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/CHARTFOUR_0.png?itok=Pt7_ZRjP

Someone finally made a decent chart.

[Strike 5,591]

19 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

So, she is still in favor of the thumb up the ass move? 

Well, at least in Colorado. 

[The Observer 641]

21 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Is there any evidence of this "induced Panic"

 

HUUUUUUGE caravan on it's way!  Many carrying diseases. Many are terrorists.  Many are M13 gang members. Many will rape your wife and daugheters!!  We need a wall!!  For the love of humanity, we need a wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ring a bell?  That's our president trying to keep everyone calm and not start a panic.  It's all about votes and what helps Trump personally. And he has guys like you doing the leg work. For free

[Meglamaniac 535]

Just now, The Observer said:

HUUUUUUGE caravan on it's way!  Many carrying diseases. Many are terrorists.  Many are M13 gang members. Many will rape your wife and daugheters!!  We need a wall!!  For the love of humanity, we need a wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ring a bell?  That's our president trying to keep everyone calm and not start a panic.  It's all about votes and what helps Trump personally. And he has guys like you doing the leg work. For free

Was there not a HUGE caravan at the boarder retained by Mexico?

You keep mentioning M13 gang members, you do realize that over 90% of the active members here in the US are illegal immigrants right

Still don't see any evidence of a panic

[Djgb13 2,339]

43 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

Below are some stats on the flu, hopefully you can see the magnitude of difference between the two. Also you know that the major complication of this is pneumonia? You cannot say pneumonia is worse when that is what this is.

 

 

 

At least one in five people worldwide were infected with swine flu during the first year of the 2009-2010 H1N1 pandemic, an international research group said on Friday, but the death rate was just 0.02 percent.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-flu-h1n1-pandemic/swine-flu-infected-1-in-5-death-rate-low-study-shows-idUSBRE90O0T720130125

The mean annual global influenza-associated respiratory mortality rate per 100 000 was 5.9, with regional estimates ranging from 4.5 in Eastern Mediterranean to 6.2 in the Americas (.0059%).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6815659/

Keywords here. FLU. We already have a vaccine for the flu. We just alter it every year to the different strains. We also have different medications for the flu and our bodies have naturally built up a substantial immunity to prevent most of us from dying. 
 

This is a new virus. We have no previous vaccines or information to go off of except what we’ve learned from other viruses. We are having to use what little information the rest of the world has gathered. Even with this, our natural immunity has us at surviving 98% of the time. We could just not treat it and we would be fine. Most of the people dying from it are in poor areas with poor hygiene and poor food supplies. Those peoples immunities are lowered than what they’d normally be. 
 

Now, we have ways of detecting it and have ways of combating it to prevent deaths. And the flu? Ever hear of the Spanish influenza? Killed an estimated 20-50 million people. Why did I bring this up? Because the flu USED to be extremely deadly. The fact that this new virus has such a low mortality rate and how quickly we are developing ways to fight it shows it’s not that serious. 
 

Trying to debate me on this topic is useless Unless you have the same qualifications or better. I’ve got a degree in this. Focused in bacteriology, virology, immunology. I know what I’m talking about here 

[5-Points 3,570]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Wanna know how stupid people are?

https://www.wric.com/health/coronavirus/nearly-40-of-beer-drinking-americans-wont-buy-corona-due-to-coronavirus-study-shows/

I have noticed a down tick in sales recently.

 

[The Observer 641]

10 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Was there not a HUGE caravan at the boarder retained by Mexico?

You keep mentioning M13 gang members, you do realize that over 90% of the active members here in the US are illegal immigrants right

Still don't see any evidence of a panic

Point is, people saying that Trump is trying to be presidential and keep the public calm are totally ignoring the fact that Trump's game plan is always the exact opposite., He tries putting fear into the heads of the public.  So let's stop with the bullsh*t and just admit that this time he's trying to play it down because of his approval rating. It's all political bullsh*t. Which is all Trump knows. Normally, it induces an eyeroll or a chuckle. This time, it could kill Americans.

[The Observer 641]

10 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

 

Trying to debate me on this topic is useless Unless you have the same qualifications or better. I’ve got a degree in this. Focused in bacteriology, virology, immunology. I know what I’m talking about here 

Oh for God sake.  LOL  

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

20 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Keywords here. FLU. We already have a vaccine for the flu. We just alter it every year to the different strains. We also have different medications for the flu and our bodies have naturally built up a substantial immunity to prevent most of us from dying. 
 

This is a new virus. We have no previous vaccines or information to go off of except what we’ve learned from other viruses. We are having to use what little information the rest of the world has gathered. Even with this, our natural immunity has us at surviving 98% of the time. We could just not treat it and we would be fine. Most of the people dying from it are in poor areas with poor hygiene and poor food supplies. Those peoples immunities are lowered than what they’d normally be. 
 

Now, we have ways of detecting it and have ways of combating it to prevent deaths. And the flu? Ever hear of the Spanish influenza? Killed an estimated 20-50 million people. Why did I bring this up? Because the flu USED to be extremely deadly. The fact that this new virus has such a low mortality rate and how quickly we are developing ways to fight it shows it’s not that serious. 
 

Trying to debate me on this topic is useless Unless you have the same qualifications or better. I’ve got a degree in this. Focused in bacteriology, virology, immunology. I know what I’m talking about here 

 

I have heard of the spanish influenza, but it was not deadly due to lack of treatment, it was deadly because that particular strain of influenza was more deadly than other strains.

For example H5N1 is the very extreme of influenza, and even with modern treatment it has a very high mortality rate.

https://www.who.int/influenza/human_animal_interface/avian_influenza/h5n1_research/faqs/en/

 

A 2% mortality rate in a disease that spreads easily is not something that we have seen for a hundred years. I am not sure why you are downplaying it.

[Meglamaniac 535]

12 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Point is, people saying that Trump is trying to be presidential and keep the public calm are totally ignoring the fact that Trump's game plan is always the exact opposite., He tries putting fear into the heads of the public.  So let's stop with the bullsh*t and just admit that this time he's trying to play it down because of his approval rating. It's all political bullsh*t. Which is all Trump knows. Normally, it induces an eyeroll or a chuckle. This time, it could kill Americans.

Not once has anything the POTUS as stated put fear into my head, I'm sure the mass majority of sane people feel the same way.  Fact is that making for a united front  when disseminating information about the outbreak is the right thing to do.  Disinformation/misinformation is much more dangerous in a situation like this and pushing forward bad information has become common place.

Everything the POTUS does in no related to his approval rating no matter how many times you say it.

 

[Djgb13 2,339]

7 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

I have heard of the spanish influenza, but it was not deadly due to lack of treatment, it was deadly because that particular strain of influenza was more deadly than other strains.

For example H5N1 is the very extreme of influenza, and even with modern treatment it has a very high mortality rate.

https://www.who.int/influenza/human_animal_interface/avian_influenza/h5n1_research/faqs/en/

 

A 2% mortality rate in a disease that spreads easily is not something that we have seen for a hundred years. I am not sure why you are downplaying it.

Bruh you’re trying to move the goalposts here. The fact is this virus isn’t on par with the different flus. Not from lack of treatment but from how they are in general. Flu is deadly. It’s a mutating virus that adapts every year with certain strains resulting in death. Flu is a very dangerous virus if left alone. This one? Well from all our advances we don’t have to worry about it. It’s not gonna cause all kinds of deaths like the flu has. In fact it’s got less symptoms than the flu. 
 

Trust me, it’s not as serious as you are trying to make it be