TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 1:35 PM, Hawkeye21 said: Wouldn’t a lot of doctors just diagnosed it as influenza? Considering we had a very bad flu season the answer is yes. Most people in the middle of the flu epidemic would have probably called in to the doctor and gotten a prescription over the phone. Then gone to the hospital eventually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/19/2020 at 2:56 AM, Voltaire said: It's not the same as the flu. The signature difference is no runny/stuffy nose. So if you catch a really bad cold this week and your nose has you going back to your tissue paper box every ten minutes, that's good, be relieved that you don't have it. With the lock down and free pornhub, there probably isn't much left in the tissue paper box these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted April 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Leeson said: With the lock down and free pornhub, there probably isn't much left in the tissue paper box these days. Thanks to smartphones a good strategy to preserve paper is to spank it on the toilet. No muss. No fuss. Or so I've heard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeson 54 Posted April 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, DonS said: Thanks to smartphones a good strategy to preserve paper is to spank it on the toilet. No muss. No fuss. Or so I've heard. Yeah, my wife would give me weird looks when I took my desktop pc and monitor to the bathroom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,909 Posted April 20, 2020 Part of the phased government plan is for people to get tested for antibodies. I called my Doctor, who referred me to the hospital, who referred me to the hotline. They aren't testing the general public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 976 Posted April 21, 2020 2 active cases in our entire county currently (both obviously quarantined). Two. Cases. 1 for every 60,000 people in the county. 1 for every 525 square miles. And we still are ordered to sit home. Incredible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted April 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, dain11279 said: 2 active cases in our entire county currently (both obviously quarantined). Two. Cases. 1 for every 60,000 people in the county. 1 for every 525 square miles. And we still are ordered to sit home. Incredible. Is it fair to say that those numbers are so low because of staying at home? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted April 21, 2020 Up to a whopping 3 in my county. They have had over a month to increase testing, get hospitals ready for surges and get ventilators. The whole reason we were told there had to be a lock down. Time to open things back up, not change it to, every life is precious unless you want an abortion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, dain11279 said: 2 active cases in our entire county currently (both obviously quarantined). Two. Cases. 1 for every 60,000 people in the county. 1 for every 525 square miles. And we still are ordered to sit home. Incredible. Don't you live in upstate NY? If they open your county, don't you think that the city folk will start heading your way and bring their diseases? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 976 Posted April 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Don't you live in upstate NY? If they open your county, don't you think that the city folk will start heading your way and bring their diseases? I'm 420 miles from NYC, pretty sure those people aren't coming here to eat dinner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, dain11279 said: I'm 420 miles from NYC, pretty sure those people aren't coming here to eat dinner No, they will just rent a Airbnb and stay there for a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,800 Posted April 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: No, they will just rent a Airbnb and stay there for a bit. Then they'll get maybe 5 cases. Maybe even a death. Unless you think that the city slickers are going to go to his one-stoplight town and contaminate the subway and then the elevator in the 50-story rent-controlled apartment. This is why we need to understand the data (I'm not saying you disagree). People have already left NYC in droves I'm quite confident, and it hasn't caused coronageddon in the remote counties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted April 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Then they'll get maybe 5 cases. Maybe even a death. Unless you think that the city slickers are going to go to his one-stoplight town and contaminate the subway and then the elevator in the 50-story rent-controlled apartment. This is why we need to understand the data (I'm not saying you disagree). People have already left NYC in droves I'm quite confident, and it hasn't caused coronageddon in the remote counties. Depends on when they leave and what they do. If the density of the population helps drive this, then why is South Dakota a problem. I am all for opening in waves instead of all at once. However, I think it will be coordinated at a state level and not at a county level. Just too many variables and county governments that are not strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,446 Posted April 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Then they'll get maybe 5 cases. Maybe even a death. Unless you think that the city slickers are going to go to his one-stoplight town and contaminate the subway and then the elevator in the 50-story rent-controlled apartment. This is why we need to understand the data (I'm not saying you disagree). People have already left NYC in droves I'm quite confident, and it hasn't caused coronageddon in the remote counties. Cuomo said upstate can start opening before the hot spots. Didn’t catch the deets or timeline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,800 Posted April 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Depends on when they leave and what they do. If the density of the population helps drive this, then why is South Dakota a problem. I am all for opening in waves instead of all at once. However, I think it will be coordinated at a state level and not at a county level. Just too many variables and county governments that are not strong. South Dakota has 7 deaths total. Which is not to say there are outlier areas. Navajo county in the middle of nowhere AZ has an unusually high number of cases. Not exactly densely populated. Do we need to figure out such problems before opening things up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted April 21, 2020 I'd say there's a really good chance right now. Have a cough that rattles the windows and suddenly I feel very fevery. And just freaking exhausted. And dizzy. And weak. Temp 101.× Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,909 Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, wiffleball said: I'd say there's a really good chance right now. Have a cough that rattles the windows and suddenly I feel very fevery. And just freaking exhausted. And dizzy. And weak. Temp 101.× I'm sure you will be fine. We aren't that lucky, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,446 Posted April 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, wiffleball said: I'd say there's a really good chance right now. Have a cough that rattles the windows and suddenly I feel very fevery. And just freaking exhausted. And dizzy. And weak. Temp 101.× Maybe go get a burrito. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,992 Posted April 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, wiffleball said: I'd say there's a really good chance right now. Have a cough that rattles the windows and suddenly I feel very fevery. And just freaking exhausted. And dizzy. And weak. Temp 101.× It's from helping the homeless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted April 21, 2020 So the official count still at 0 ? Here's a little cheer up for these dire omg the sky is falling circumstances brought to you by our overwhelmed, heart broken heros. Stay home for them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted April 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, drobeski said: So the official count still at 0 ? Here's a little cheer up for these dire omg the sky is falling circumstances brought to you by our overwhelmed, heart broken heros. Stay home for them! There are some strange people following this YouTuber. This is just one of the comments. "Most of them a just lowlife crisis actors. This is their gig! Real health care professionals are not this goofy. Only theatre arts performers are like this. Bunch of clowns trying to get noticed, no shame. They don't care, it's not their problem. They are minions for fake news. They probably go a while without work. They are joyful to have a routine to finally perform. I can see the fakeness etched on their smiling ugly faces." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted April 22, 2020 12 hours ago, wiffleball said: I'd say there's a really good chance right now. Have a cough that rattles the windows and suddenly I feel very fevery. And just freaking exhausted. And dizzy. And weak. Temp 101.× Uh oh . This doesn't sound good. You may be the one breaking our good luck. Keep us updated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted April 22, 2020 12 hours ago, drobeski said: So the official count still at 0 ? Here's a little cheer up for these dire omg the sky is falling circumstances brought to you by our overwhelmed, heart broken heros. Stay home for them! Yes, officially zero but wiffleball four posts up from this one is looking like a serious contender to put us on the scoreboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted April 22, 2020 Volty, what did the gooks really do to get ahead of this virus? I think they inoculated their population somehow and are going to let the rest of the world die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 557 Posted April 22, 2020 I had a scare Friday. The fake GF had a fever and the ex wife a fever and a wicked cough. I was freaking out. But both are better now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,710 Posted April 23, 2020 A friend’s cousin in IL just passed from covid related ailment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted April 23, 2020 17 hours ago, NorthernVike said: Volty, what did the gooks really do to get ahead of this virus? I think they inoculated their population somehow and are going to let the rest of the world die. Well, you know how your neighbor's cousin's classmate works in New York and was scared that she didn't want to catch coronavirus so she drove out to TRF to stay with her mom and get away from there while this passes. Then the next day, she starts sneezing on you in line at 7-11 then yesterday comes down with a terrible fever? It was a lot harder to get out of Wuhan. Wuhan is a city the size of New York and Hubei a province the size of Missouri.... on January 22nd, they shut the whole province down and sealed it off. Trains, planes, bridges, expressways, highways, local roads, dirt roads, goat trails... focking shut down. Anyone with a recent bus, plane or train ticket from Hubei was put in quarantine, anyone with a Hubei licence plate was put in a quarantine center for fourteen days. Meanwhile outside Hubei, anyone who got sick was put in the hospital. Anybody who came in contact with them was put in hard home quarantine. "Where have you been who did you talk to?" They could track what bus you were on and home quarantine anybody on it at the same time, any restaurant you'd eaten at. People under home quarantine had people (elderly retirees often times) assigned to watch their door and make errand runs for them and bring them food and supplies for fourteen days. Meanwhile, every venue was shut down, people told to stay at home. Checkpoints set up. Everyone outside was required to wear masks. Under the worst of of the only places open were grocery stores, convenience stores, pharmacies and ATMs. It got really intense. In Hubei they were overrun with cases, people dying in the street, hospitals turning away patients. It was the nightmare you saw. All of China flooded them with health care workers and police officers. Panzhihua sent them twenty doctors/nurses in two waves and I don't know how many police. They built like six emergency hospitals in a matter of days. Police went door to door dragging out sick people. When you watched those videos of people being dragged out of their homes, those were all Chinese... no ... they were non-Hubei cops with Hubei residents. Things are settling down now, there's no historical animosity towards Hubei, but for a while there, being from Hubei was the mark of Cain. The whole country was shut down. We haven't had a case locally since early February, we had 16 altogether (I'd lost track and said 15 in some posts). They're opening things back up in phases and my school won't be able to open until early May. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,446 Posted April 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Well, you know how your neighbor's cousin's classmate works in New York and is scared that she doesn't want to catch coronavirus so she drives out to TRF to stay with her mom and get away from there while this passes. Then the next day, she starts sneezing on you in line at 7-11 then another day later comes down with a terrible fever? It was a lot harder to get out of Wuhan. Wuhan is a city the size of New York and Hubei a province the size of Missouri.... on January 22nd, they shut the whole province down and sealed it off. Trains, planes, bridges, expressways, highways, local roads, dirt roads, goat trails... focking shut down. Anyone with a recent bus, plane or train ticket from Hubei was put in quarantine, anyone with a Hubei licence plate was put in a quarantine center for fourteen days. Meanwhile outside Hubei, anyone who got sick was put in the hospital. Anybody who came in contact with them was put in hard home quarantine. "Where have you been who did you talk to?" They could track what bus you were on and home quarantine anybody on it at the same time, any restaurant you'd eaten at. People under home quarantine had people (elderly retirees often times) assigned to watch their door and make errand runs for them and bring them food and supplies for fourteen days. Meanwhile, every venue was shut down, people told to stay at home. Checkpoints set up. Everyone outside was required to wear masks. Under the worst of of the only places open were grocery stores, convenience stores, pharmacies and ATMs. It got really intense. In Hubei they were overrun with cases, people dying in the street, hospitals turning away patients. It was the nightmare you saw. All of China flooded them with health care workers and police officers. Panzhihua sent them twenty doctors/nurses in two waves and I don't know how many police. They built like six emergency hospitals in a matter of days. Police went door to door dragging out sick people. When you watched those videos of people being dragged out of their homes, those were all Chinese... no ... they were non-Hubei cops with Hubei residents. Things are settling down now, there's no historical animosity towards Hubei, but for a while there, being from Hubei was the mark of Cain. The whole country was shut down. We haven't had a case locally since early February, we had 16 altogether (I'd lost track and said 15 in some posts). They're opening things back up in phases and my school won't be able to open until early May. But international travel out of Wuhan was still allowed. And no matter how the virus originated, lab, wet market whatever, that’s the smoking gun proving Chinas fault in this. They have to pay. But it will be tough because they have bought off so many people in power and finance all over the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted April 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: But international travel out of Wuhan was still allowed. And no matter how the virus originated, lab, wet market whatever, that’s the smoking gun proving Chinas fault in this. They have to pay. But it will be tough because they have bought off so many people in power and finance all over the world. I don't think flights out of Wuhan were allowed beyond Jan 21. Wuhan was put on lockdown that day. They did it the stupidest way possible "Hey everybody, because our city is a focking disater area overrun with an easily caught virus we can neither handle nor figure out, we're going to close down exiting in 24 hours." And so nobody wants to be stuck in coronahell, everyone with the means to escape flooded out of town. The woman responsible for 15/16 of Panzhihua's cases was a Jan 21 evacuee who lied to bypass the police checkpoint and got all her friends and family, potentially the entire city, sick. The Chinese have this painfully earbleedingly absurd cover story about how there was a military athletics competition in Wuhan in October for soldiers from the world over (that part is true/verifiable) and the US Army's delegation was responsible for spreading the virus. So that's what's making the rounds over here and somehow developed a believability to it. I'm not joking, smart local people who should know better are spooning up this bowl of sh*t. There's no international organization that can 'make them pay'. The UN is weak and can't punish China, they have a veto on the security council. And even if they were inclined, the UN would listen to the WHO first and the WHO is proven to be incahoots with Beijing. Really, up until three weeks ago, I didn't know what was going on with them, I was praising the WHO myself and had no reason to doubt their sincerity and professionalism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted April 25, 2020 Bump for wiff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted April 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, NorthernVike said: Bump for wiff. Thanks. Swabbed yesterday afternoon. Basically. They stick something in your nose. Then dig around until they reach Nevada. JFK had a less intrusive headshot. 'Results' in as little as 4 days !!! EXCEPT the test is so unreliable, either false +or - you're under lockdown for min 10 days regardless.. So, really the only test is, "do you live or do you die? " If I float I think It means I'm a witch. no matter what the results are, it's a presumptive positive. So why bother with the freaking test in the first place? Our medical community is making the clowns @ the beginning of the AIDS epidemic look like Jonas friggin Salk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted April 26, 2020 Been doing a lot of reading. Diagnostically. The swab pcr test is effectively worthless. Even if negative. Clinicians and patients are to presume infection in virtually all cases. I thought the ten day thing was kinda B'S random, but it seems valid based upon a lot of clinical experience. I'm pretty much following right on schedule. Even developing symptoms I didn't know we're symptoms. Seems like Tues + - is key. Either the whole enchilada will kick in, or I've been spared the worst. Vitals are still WAY solid. That's what's kinda frustrating. But. Turns out, that's typical. True flu hits you pretty much up front. This starts with a few symptoms and progresses. Regardless. At least I feel less like they're just making it up as they go. But testing? Oh, that's bullcrap. Loong way to go there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill E. 703 Posted April 26, 2020 3 hours ago, wiffleball said: Been doing a lot of reading. Diagnostically. The swab pcr test is effectively worthless. Even if negative. Clinicians and patients are to presume infection in virtually all cases. I thought the ten day thing was kinda B'S random, but it seems valid based upon a lot of clinical experience. I'm pretty much following right on schedule. Even developing symptoms I didn't know we're symptoms. Seems like Tues + - is key. Either the whole enchilada will kick in, or I've been spared the worst. Vitals are still WAY solid. That's what's kinda frustrating. But. Turns out, that's typical. True flu hits you pretty much up front. This starts with a few symptoms and progresses. Regardless. At least I feel less like they're just making it up as they go. But testing? Oh, that's bullcrap. Loong way to go there. Hope you are ok. Hate to read this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,909 Posted April 26, 2020 Getting my antibody test done tomorrow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Cdub100 said: Getting my antibody test done tomorrow. How did you get it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted April 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: How did you get it? He told them he just got done nailing Hope Solo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,909 Posted April 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: How did you get it? https://www.questdiagnostics.com/home/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,710 Posted April 26, 2020 Good luck to you wiff. hang in there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted April 27, 2020 Test is worthless .. ....and still, I can't sleep. Fock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 27, 2020 6 hours ago, wiffleball said: Test is worthless .. ....and still, I can't sleep. Fock. Have you tried melatonin. It helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites