Ahmaud Arbery

[Utilit99 4,099]

18 minutes ago, The Observer said:

If it's such an awesome story, start a thread about it.  What does it have to do with this case?

You should start a thread about starting threads. That way you can stop posting inane "start a thread" comments in other threads.

[Intense Observer 344]

Black Panthers show up to the white dudes house with ARs.

https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhj9C45k00cXfWbO0T

What could possibly go wrong.

I wonder if all the Karens freaking out about the Patriots in MI will even acknowledge this.

[Alias Detective 1,403]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/ahmaud-arbery/611539/
 

If Obama had a son.  Bwahahahah

[RLLD 4,237]

39 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/ahmaud-arbery/611539/
 

If Obama had a son.  Bwahahahah

It is entertaining when someone attempts to paint these guys as if they were just out for a stroll.....never fixes anything. Removing accountability from these kids hurets them and sometimes get them killed.

[Alias Detective 1,403]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

It is entertaining when someone attempts to paint these guys as if they were just out for a stroll.....never fixes anything. Removing accountability from these kids hurets them and sometimes get them killed.

It’s their truth just not the truth.  Sad.

[porkbutt 893]

10 hours ago, Intense Observer said:

Black Panthers show up to the white dudes house with ARs.

https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhj9C45k00cXfWbO0T

What could possibly go wrong.

I wonder if all the Karens freaking out about the Patriots in MI will even acknowledge this.

lol. maybe they should go patrol their infested sh;thole neighborhoods where their brothers are slinging crack to kids and killing eachother. fock them.

[peenie 1,915]

Just so you guys are aware, we are all one human race. We come from a common ancestor. We are not aliens from another planet that you all have allowed to live here and we are not animals that have learned to talk. We are not criminals by nature. The bottom line is that this guy was not threatening these men and they are not the police and did not follow proper protocol for a citizens arrest. If you can't see that their behavior was wrong then you choose to remain in ignorance. It's a sad situation and I hope justice is served.

Thank @Voltaire for answering my question.

[The Observer 641]

11 minutes ago, porkbutt said:

lol. maybe they should go patrol their infested sh;thole neighborhoods where their brothers are slinging crack to kids and killing eachother. fock them.

So your official response to a case where two rednecks chase down and kill an unarmed black man, and the cops see the tape and do nothing about it because one of the murderers is an ex-cop who is buddies with local law enforcement is "some black people are bad too"?   Does that pretty much sum it up? 

[RLLD 4,237]

3 minutes ago, peenie said:

Just so you guys are aware, we are all one human race. We come from a common ancestor. We are not aliens from another planet that you all have allowed to live here and we are not animals that have learned to talk. We are not criminals by nature. The bottom line is that this guy was not threatening these men and they are not the police and did not follow proper protocol for a citizens arrest. If you can't see that their behavior was wrong then you choose to remain in ignorance. It's a sad situation and I hope justice is served.

Thank @Voltaire for answering my question.

Some people ARE criminals, there are actually quite a few of them, that you are only interested when negative outcomes transpire for those of African decent says something about you......

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

8 minutes ago, The Observer said:

So your official response to a case where two rednecks chase down and kill an unarmed black man, and the cops see the tape and do nothing about it because one of the murderers is an ex-cop who is buddies with local law enforcement is "some black people are bad too"?   Does that pretty much sum it up? 

The cops did nothing? The case was presented to the DA. You don’t know how things work it seems. Yeah, cops decide if a case should go forward. Try watching a law and order at least. 

[MDC 7,448]

I have a hard time imagining why these guys thought Arbery was responsible for burglaries and why they took it upon themselves to detain him with a shotgun, given that they aren’t police. Whether Arbery was a bad guy isn’t material to this story otherwise. 

[The Observer 641]

28 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The cops did nothing? The case was presented to the DA. You don’t know how things work it seems. Yeah, cops decide if a case should go forward. Try watching a law and order at least. 

Tape gets released to public. Next day, arrests are made.  Coincidence huh?  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

4 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Tape gets released to public. Next day, arrests are made.  Coincidence huh?  

Again, you don’t know how things work, especially in a capital crime case. 

[The Observer 641]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Again, you don’t know how things work, especially in a capital crime case. 

So you're sticking with the coincidence theory?   Two months they had the exact same video. No arrests. Tape gets released, public outcry, arrests made the next day. But in Hardcore's world, that was just a coincidence?  That's what you're going with?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

4 minutes ago, The Observer said:

So you're sticking with the coincidence theory?   Two months they had the exact same video. No arrests. Tape gets released, public outcry, arrests made the next day. But in Hardcore's world, that was just a coincidence?  That's what you're going with?

Can’t read either. The DA makes the call, not the cops. That should end this , I couldn’t have made it simpler for even you to understand. Consider yourself informed. 

[The Observer 641]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Can’t read either. The DA makes the call, not the cops. That should end this , I couldn’t have made it simpler for even you to understand. Consider yourself informed. 

I don't care if Mickey Mouse makes the call. "The call" wasn't made until the public saw the tape and they couldn't bury it to save their white buddy any more.  That should end this.

[porkbutt 893]

1 hour ago, The Observer said:

So your official response to a case where two rednecks chase down and kill an unarmed black man, and the cops see the tape and do nothing about it because one of the murderers is an ex-cop who is buddies with local law enforcement is "some black people are bad too"?   Does that pretty much sum it up? 

i was talking about the black panthers patrolling the georgia streets with AR's now

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

3 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/ahmaud-arbery/611539/
 

If Obama had a son.  Bwahahahah

Why did no one mention Trump's quote in this case?  "He looked - I saw the picture of him in his tuxedo, it was so beautiful - I mean he looks like a wonderful young guy. I think it's a horrible thing." 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

8 minutes ago, The Observer said:

I don't care if Mickey Mouse makes the call. "The call" wasn't made until the public saw the tape and they couldn't bury it to save their white buddy any more.  That should end this.

Thick as a brick

[The Observer 641]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Thick as a brick

Try answering a direct question without dancing and side-shuffling.  Are you ready?

Do you think the arrests of the two rednecks had anything to do with the tape being released to the public the day before?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

5 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Try answering a direct question without dancing and side-shuffling.  Are you ready?

Do you think the arrests of the two rednecks had anything to do with the tape being released to the public the day before?

Yup

[RLLD 4,237]

58 minutes ago, MDC said:

I have a hard time imagining why these guys thought Arbery was responsible for burglaries and why they took it upon themselves to detain him with a shotgun, given that they aren’t police. Whether Arbery was a bad guy isn’t material to this story otherwise. 

This.

 

His race is not relevant, nor is that of the shooters.  The behaviors are relevant. If there is enough evidence to suggest they had no right to shoot, and from what I can see there is, then they need to be dealt with accordingly under the law.

 

[The Observer 641]

13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yup

Bingo.  Good answer.  It took a lot of verbal gymnastics to get it out of you, but at least you ended up at the right spot

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

Can someone help me out here? Is it possible that Newbie doesn’t know the difference between the DA’s office and the police department? No way, right? 

[The Observer 641]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Can someone help me out here? Is it possible that Newbie doesn’t know the difference between the DA’s office and the police department? No way, right? 

Add Mickey Mouse to that list too, since I told you it was totally insignificant to the discussion.  TIA  There were no arrests made until the public saw what they were covering up for two months. Fact!  All the word play and contortions will not change that

[KSB2424 3,148]

2 hours ago, peenie said:

Just so you guys are aware, we are all one human race. We come from a common ancestor. We are not aliens from another planet that you all have allowed to live here and we are not animals that have learned to talk. We are not criminals by nature. The bottom line is that this guy was not threatening these men and they are not the police and did not follow proper protocol for a citizens arrest. If you can't see that their behavior was wrong then you choose to remain in ignorance. It's a sad situation and I hope justice is served.

Thank @Voltaire for answering my question.

99% of people do think these two men have culpability in what happened.  The degree of that culpability is yet to be determined though until the full story comes out.  I think what most people find irritating is the original premise and story line that we were told and are continuing to be told despite more evidence coming out.

There is new video of Aubrey, on multiple other days and nights in that neighborhood snooping around.  He wasn't just out for a jog and randomly sought out by his skin color and lynched.  That is horseshit commentary in the news and social media to drive a false narrative.  He was by all accounts up to no good.  Being "up to no good" is not worthy of a death sentence and these to men should have just called the cops and followed him, but they didn't, a confrontation ensued and he was shot. 

Multiple things can all be true at once. 

Based on the new information I would venture to guess Murder 1 and Murder 2 are definitely out.  It looks like it should be more Manslaughter or some other similar charge.

 

[12th Man 884]

If these two clowns murdered that guy they should be held accountable. Easy. Now, Why don't the libs care when a black guys kills another black guy? Asking for a friend.  

[The Observer 641]

Just now, 12th Man said:

If these two clowns murdered that guy they should be held accountable. Easy. Now, Why don't the libs care when a black guys kills another black guy? Asking for a friend.  

I'm against that as well.  Please make sure that is noted as my official stance.

[12th Man 884]

9 minutes ago, The Observer said:

I'm against that as well.  Please make sure that is noted as my official stance.

Liar. Have you ever heard of Tyshawn Lee? Tyshawn wasn't killed by a white guy so his death is meaningless to you.  You are such a race baiting fraud.  

[The Observer 641]

Just now, 12th Man said:

Liar. Have you ever heard of Tyshawn Lee? Tyshawn wasn't killed by a white guy so his death is meaningless to you.  You are such a race baiting fraud.  

That's terrible. I hope the guy who did it goes to jail.

Now you see what consistency looks like. 

[jerryskids 6,805]

This reminds me a lot of the Zimmerman/Martin case, particularly the "plenty of stupid to go around" part.  Differences here are (1) we have video showing Arbery rushing the one guy, so self defense words, but (2) as opposed to Zimmerman who thought Martin was up to no good (allegedly), I don't see that with the white guys.  They were just being good redneck citizens to bring in a guy probably up to no good.

Regardless, with that video, I have a hard time seeing any jury in Georgia convicting them.  The DA might try charging them with Murder 2 and then plead down to expired tags or something, but I can't see a lawyer letting them plead to anything that involves jail time. 

[Big Blue 06 195]

10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This reminds me a lot of the Zimmerman/Martin case, particularly the "plenty of stupid to go around" part.  Differences here are (1) we have video showing Arbery rushing the one guy, so self defense words, but (2) as opposed to Zimmerman who thought Martin was up to no good (allegedly), I don't see that with the white guys.  They were just being good redneck citizens to bring in a guy probably up to no good.

Regardless, with that video, I have a hard time seeing any jury in Georgia convicting them.  The DA might try charging them with Murder 2 and then plead down to expired tags or something, but I can't see a lawyer letting them plead to anything that involves jail time. 

Now imagine he’s white!

[jerryskids 6,805]

1 minute ago, Big Blue 06 said:

Now imagine he’s white!

Well, nothing happens of course -- two guys shot a bad guy who also attacked them, case closed.  Which is how it was until the video came out.  But now we need to racist up this bad boy. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

Any word if the victim had any mental health issues? That would be kind of important. 

[MDC 7,448]

11 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This reminds me a lot of the Zimmerman/Martin case, particularly the "plenty of stupid to go around" part.  Differences here are (1) we have video showing Arbery rushing the one guy, so self defense words, but (2) as opposed to Zimmerman who thought Martin was up to no good (allegedly), I don't see that with the white guys.  They were just being good redneck citizens to bring in a guy probably up to no good.

Regardless, with that video, I have a hard time seeing any jury in Georgia convicting them.  The DA might try charging them with Murder 2 and then plead down to expired tags or something, but I can't see a lawyer letting them plead to anything that involves jail time. 

Playing devil’s advocate here: Doesn’t Arbery have a right to defend himself? Seems weird to me that they’re allowed to try to physically restrain him for what as of right now seems like no good reason. But he’s not allowed to take a swing or whatever in reply? 

[The Observer 641]

Just now, MDC said:

Playing devil’s advocate here: Doesn’t Arbery have a right to defend himself? Seems weird to me that they’re allowed to try to physically restrain him for what as of right now seems like no good reason. But he’s not allowed to take a swing or whatever in reply? 

If I'm a black guy and saw these Joe Bob and Cletus pull up and jump out of their truck and come at me, I'm thinking I'm getting lynched. To suggest he shouldn't defend himself is laughable. 

[Alias Detective 1,403]

I’d have a difficult time allowing a citizen to arrest me.  Then again, I would need to be doing something worthy of a citizens arrest.

[12th Man 884]

Just now, The Observer said:

If I'm a black guy and saw these Joe Bob and Cletus pull up and jump out of their truck and come at me, I'm thinking I'm getting lynched. To suggest he shouldn't defend himself is laughable. 

Race baiting fool.  Stop carrying Brian Stelter’s water. 

[tanatastic 2,062]

5 minutes ago, The Observer said:

If I'm a black guy and saw these Joe Bob and Cletus pull up and jump out of their truck and come at me, I'm thinking I'm getting lynched. To suggest he shouldn't defend himself is laughable. 

It’s daytime on a residential street in America. Had he put his hands up and talked to them he would be alive today. You don’t throw punches at someone with a gun, that’s just the very basics of self preservation.

[The Observer 641]

Just now, tanatastic said:

It’s daytime on a residential street in America. Had he put his hands up and talked to them he would be alive today. You don’t throw punches at someone with a gun, that’s just the very basics of self preservation.

So three people handled it wrong.  Two will be in prison and one is dead. I think Joe Bob and Cletus made out better.