[** Official President Joe Biden Thread **]

[TimHauck 1,801]

8 minutes ago, Masshole said:

I was in this place too.    As soon as I saw us go from "kill the leaders, blow their sh!t up, and then leave"  to "give them a functioning gov't so they don't backslide" -  I knew that this is how it would end.   I mean, FFS, Afghanistan was known as the "graveyard of empires" before we got there. 

But I was listening to Shapiro this week and he made a pretty strong case that the Biden admin supremely fuk-ed this one up.    He noted that we only had 3500 troops  there and the last combat death we had there was February of 2020.    He noted that at this point it was more dangerous to be a cop in Chicago than to be a US soldier in Afghanistan.     Would the alternative of maintaining those 3500 there to work with and support the Afghan military and having the "training area" as Justin Charge notes be worse than this?    He notes that what we're seeing now isn't the worst of it.   The next step will be us watching news stories of Taliban psychos beheading former govt emp'ees and force marrying 12 yr girls to some smelly 40 yr old, 1 eyed Taliban scum bag.   

I am not sure he completely won me over, as I have always been in the "get the fuk out of there, you'll never be able to fix it" camp.   But he does make a strong case that it didn't need to be and shouldn't be this ugly.   

Wasn’t Trump also planning to pull the troops from Afghanistan?

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

7 minutes ago, Masshole said:

I was in this place too.    As soon as I saw us go from "kill the leaders, blow their sh!t up, and then leave"  to "give them a functioning gov't so they don't backslide" -  I knew that this is how it would end.   I mean, FFS, Afghanistan was known as the "graveyard of empires" before we got there. 

But I was listening to Shapiro this week and he made a pretty strong case that the Biden admin supremely fuk-ed this one up.    He noted that we only had 3500 troops  there and the last combat death we had there was February of 2020.    He noted that at this point it was more dangerous to be a cop in Chicago than to be a US soldier in Afghanistan.     Would the alternative of maintaining those 3500 there to work with and support the Afghan military and having the "training area" as Justin Charge notes be worse than this?    He notes that what we're seeing now isn't the worst of it.   The next step will be us watching news stories of Taliban psychos beheading former govt emp'ees and force marrying 12 yr girls to some smelly 40 yr old, 1 eyed Taliban scum bag.   

I am not sure he completely won me over, as I have always been in the "get the fuk out of there, you'll never be able to fix it" camp.   But he does make a strong case that it didn't need to be and shouldn't be this ugly.   

It doesn't matter. 3500 troops? Afghanistan is roughly the size of Texas, has perhaps the most difficult geography on earth for military operations, and is populated by the wildest psychos around. 

It was always going to end this way.

It is actually a mistake to even think of Afghanistan as a country. It isn't. It is a bunch of isolated valleys that don't really think of each other as united at all. Its tribal.

Let anyone who wants to try to police that hole. Pakistan want it? Be my guest. China want to be the next empire to bash their head on that rock? Where's my popcorn?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Wasn’t Trump also planning to pull the troops from Afghanistan?

Simple Jack weighs in again. Hint: one guy had a plan with stipulations for our withdrawal. The other guy didn’t, just a date with political symbolism. Guess who is who. Hint 2: They guy you say you voted for is the one with the good plan, not the guy you actually voted for. Ya Fockin fraud.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Biden's approval on the border crisis is around 55% disapprove and 35% approve.  70% of the public say the economy is in bad shape.  80% of the public blame Biden for inflation.

But the number that most closely tracks his approval rating is his poll numbers on covid.

Biden was polling fine in his handling of covid for a while.  Around 60%-65%.  But that number is starting to crack, a recent Quinnipac poll shows just 53% approve of his handing of the pandemic.  There is also large pessimism on the future of the economy, with around 50% saying things will get worse.  Those numbers haven't been that bad since 2008.  But, if the economy gets better and mask mandates fade, Biden may enjoy a large surge in approval.

[Fireballer 2,383]

3 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Biden's approval on the border crisis is around 55% disapprove and 35% approve.  70% of the public say the economy is in bad shape.  80% of the public blame Biden for inflation.

But the number that most closely tracks his approval rating is his poll numbers on covid.

Biden was polling fine in his handling of covid for a while.  Around 60%-65%.  But that number is starting to crack, a recent Quinnipac poll shows just 53% approve of his handing of the pandemic.  There is also large pessimism on the future of the economy, with around 50% saying things will get worse.  Those numbers haven't been that bad since 2008.  But, if the economy gets better and mask mandates fade, Biden may enjoy a large surge in approval.

Covid aside, most people knew, or were told, this progressive leftist agenda was coming and still voted for him.  People are stupid.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,590]

People being evacuated from embassy as it’s under siege. Must be those maga hats

[Cdub100 3,383]

16 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

People being evacuated from embassy as it’s under siege. Must be those maga hats

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[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

He’s a Fockin disaster. And his radical appointments haven’t even started on their destruction yet. It’s going to be a long 3 1/2 years no matter what. May as well put her in now, let’s bottom out. 

[DonS 3,067]

40 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

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Oopsie. That quote aged well.

Is this his "you can keep your doctor" moment? 

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

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Remember this quality creepy joe statement? Dude can't even answer his own questions correctly.

 

On July 8, Joe Biden fielded this scripted question from the obedient press:

“Mr. president, is the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan now inevitable?” asked a reporter.

“No, it is not. Because you have the Afghan troops that’s 300,000 well-equipped — as well-equipped as any army in the world — and an air force against something like 75,000 Taliban. It is not inevitable.”

 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

19 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Remember this quality creepy joe statement? Dude can't even answer his own questions correctly.

 

On July 8, Joe Biden fielded this scripted question from the obedient press:

“Mr. president, is the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan now inevitable?” asked a reporter.

“No, it is not. Because you have the Afghan troops that’s 300,000 well-equipped — as well-equipped as any army in the world — and an air force against something like 75,000 Taliban. It is not inevitable.”

 

So whoever gave Biden that assesment of the Afghan army  shouldnt they be fired? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,590]

So buried in the 1.2 trill infrastructure bill is a tax on people per mile driven. A federal tax 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

13 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

So buried in the 1.2 trill infrastructure bill is a tax on people per mile driven. A federal tax 

And to think we started a revoltuon over a tax on tea and stamps.

How far we have fallen. 

 

[jerryskids 5,206]

10 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

So buried in the 1.2 trill infrastructure bill is a tax on people per mile driven. A federal tax 

Really?  I’m disappointed but unfortunately not surprised.  The government has gotten fat on those sweet sweet gas taxes, and electric vehicles are eating into it.  

[Strike 3,979]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Really?  I’m disappointed but unfortunately not surprised.  The government has gotten fat on those sweet sweet gas taxes, and electric vehicles are eating into it.  

To be fair, it's funding for a voluntary pilot program.  It's not "I'm taxing everyone's mile's driven starting now."  it would be years before anything that affected you and I came to be, if that happens at all.  And to your point, I said this when either WA or OR started looking in to this and surcharges on registration for electric vehicles years ago, but it's kind of a bait and switch to push people towards electric vehicles not only to reduce greenhouse emissions but also touting the lower cost, and then to enact laws that equalize the cost to that of fossil fuel powered vehicles. 

[DonS 3,067]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

To be fair, it's funding for a voluntary pilot program.  It's not "I'm taxing everyone's mile's driven starting now."  it would be years before anything that affected you and I came to be, if that happens at all.  And to your point, I said this when either WA or OR started looking in to this and surcharges on registration for electric vehicles years ago, but it's kind of a bait and switch to push people towards electric vehicles not only to reduce greenhouse emissions but also touting the lower cost, and then to enact laws that equalize the cost to that of fossil fuel powered vehicles. 

If they do end up enacting this per-mile tax then I'm sure they'll repeal all the current gas taxes, right? 

[Utilit99 4,099]

25 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Really?  I’m disappointed but unfortunately not surprised.  The government has gotten fat on those sweet sweet gas taxes, and electric vehicles are eating into it.  

 I would prefer if the government would stop playing such a large role in this country. They are into everything. And that is not the way this government was meant to work. Here's a decent take on what should be done instead of this bill.

Infrastructure Bill Made Simple

 

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released an analysis of the infrastructure bill that is winding its way through Capitol Hill. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB) summarizes the CBO report here. CBO found that the bill would increase federal deficits, but the more important problem is that the spending itself is harmful and unneeded.

CRFB finds that the infrastructure bill would increase gross outlays by $517 billion over the coming decade, based on the CBO data. The CRFB and CBO examine the spending by activity, such as highways, transit, and broadband. But I’ve reorganized the spending into three buckets as follows:

Federal. The bill would increase spending about $101 billion on federal infrastructure, such as Amtrak and water facilities. I have argued that these and other federal assets should be privatized and self‐funded.

State‐Local. The bill would increase spending about $287 billion on state and local infrastructure, including highways, transit, airports, and local water systems. But the states can and should fund their own infrastructure, especially now that they are enjoying a gusher of revenues.

Private. The bill would increase spending about $129 billion on subsidies for businesses and individuals, including for electricity, broadband, EV charging, and renewable energy. This spending would intensify corporate lobbying and political corruption in Washington.

America would have more efficient investment and operation of infrastructure if the federal government ended subsidies to the states and private sector and all three levels of government privatized assets that could be supported by user charges.

The chart summarizes the proposed new infrastructure spending. The categorization into the three buckets is a rough first take.

https://www.cato.org/blog/infrastructure-bill-made-simple

[Strike 3,979]

12 minutes ago, DonS said:

If they do end up enacting this per-mile tax then I'm sure they'll repeal all the current gas taxes, right? 

Oh man, I almost spit up my drink......

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

The gas tax is per gallon, not a percentage of the price. How stupid was that? 

[Utilit99 4,099]

This makes sense.

Interesting how we don't hear any mention of the billions in lobbying and welfare pork creating an even higher dependency on the government. More government intervention in the everyday lives of its citizens sucks. Sad there are so many ignorant liberals in this country that think this is a win for average Americans. We will be left getting the shlt end of the stick.

We should be fighting for less and less government involvement in our lives. Not more.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

Food stamps will be increased by 25 pct due to inflation. Can’t make this stuff up. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

10 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

So buried in the 1.2 trill infrastructure bill is a tax on people per mile driven. A federal tax 

The war on the the poor and middle class is crucial to compliance for the socialist agenda.  They want people home, not working, unable to work if possible.  They want to destroy the hopes and dreams of youth, dreams are dangerous. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

OPEC said no. No more oil. I’m going to go cut down a tree to burn. Winter is coming. 

[porkbutt 861]

15 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

So buried in the 1.2 trill infrastructure bill is a tax on people per mile driven. A federal tax 

ill seriously go to war over this one. or maybe just jail for tax evasion. absolute bullsh;t!!!!! i drive like 50,000 miles a year

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,590]

41 minutes ago, porkbutt said:

ill seriously go to war over this one. or maybe just jail for tax evasion. absolute bullsh;t!!!!! i drive like 50,000 miles a year

Me too my man and I also have three vehicles as part of my fleet that I would have to pay that on to

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

He spent more time on white supremacy than Afghanistan. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

So the guy who got the most votes in history, by a lot, has an approval rating of 46 pct within 6 months of taking over. Yeah, he got 81 million votes. 

[lod001 1,237]

15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So the guy who got the most votes in history, by a lot, has an approval rating of 46 pct within 6 months of taking over. Yeah, he got 81 million votes. 

Exactly. Now I'm sure there are 50 million complete idiots that would vote for him over ANY R over history including Lincoln, but if there are 81 million complete idiots, we are done for as a nation cause they are breeding.

[Fireballer 2,383]

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

11 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

 

Yep. Summed up. TDS is real.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

3 hours ago, lod001 said:

Exactly. Now I'm sure there are 50 million complete idiots that would vote for him over ANY R over history including Lincoln, but if there are 81 million complete idiots, we are done for as a nation cause they are breeding.

Breeding and they're walking in hundreds of thousands more a month. America is doomed. If I had kids, I would seriously be looking at acquiring a second passport somewhere nice. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

To think just months ago we were energy independent. Every president for the last 60 years claimed that was a goal. Trump did it. Now we are begging OPEC to increase production and being told no. And Worms amd the crew think MTG and the other nuts on the right are the problem. Here’s your proof of the influence the nuts on the left have. Biden does what they want. It’s not equal. Not even close. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Today is the day Biden finally fell under 50% approval in the RCP average.  Now that he is underwater, the next step is to have more people disapprove of him.  He's pretty close, 49.9%-46.1%.   3.8% difference.  

 

Let's get the boilerplate response from the lefties out of the way, who will say "but its still better than Trump!"  We know, but you have to wonder for how much longer.

Trump BTW sits at 42.3 / 53.0 and rising.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

7 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Today is the day Biden finally fell under 50% approval in the RCP average.  Now that he is underwater, the next step is to have more people disapprove of him.  He's pretty close, 49.9%-46.1%.   3.8% difference.  

 

Let's get the boilerplate response from the lefties out of the way, who will say "but its still better than Trump!"  We know, but you have to wonder for how much longer.

Trump BTW sits at 42.3 / 53.0 and rising.

Rusty has left the building. Weird, seeing how much stock he puts in approval ratings. lol. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

7 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Today is the day Biden finally fell under 50% approval in the RCP average.  Now that he is underwater, the next step is to have more people disapprove of him.  He's pretty close, 49.9%-46.1%.   3.8% difference.  

 

Let's get the boilerplate response from the lefties out of the way, who will say "but its still better than Trump!"  We know, but you have to wonder for how much longer.

Trump BTW sits at 42.3 / 53.0 and rising.

Imagine what it would be with an honest media?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

On 2/23/2021 at 12:15 PM, Rusty Syringes said:

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/02/23/ted-cruz-came-home-mexico-surprise-mariachi-band-tiktoks/4544808001/?utm_source=SND&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=statesman&fbclid=IwAR0Ap6ISfBD8pLii6e3YPom-bXWss70jVSMyL3kiapv2_ejMU2h1JPeFe-M

Mariachi band shows up at Fled Cruz house.

When is the Band going to Delaware? Hiden Biden. Lol

[TimHauck 1,801]

On 8/17/2021 at 11:01 AM, JustinCharge said:

Today is the day Biden finally fell under 50% approval in the RCP average.  Now that he is underwater, the next step is to have more people disapprove of him.  He's pretty close, 49.9%-46.1%.   3.8% difference.  

 

Let's get the boilerplate response from the lefties out of the way, who will say "but its still better than Trump!"  We know, but you have to wonder for how much longer.

Trump BTW sits at 42.3 / 53.0 and rising.

Are they still rating Trump?  TDS!!!

[JustinCharge 2,397]

If the election were held today, Trump would beat Biden per a new poll.

https://news.yahoo.com/regrets-trump-beat-biden-today-141100643.html

 

A slew of new polls have come out this week showing the shrinking support for and approval of President Joe Biden, his average now below 50%.

But today, Rasmussen Reports is issuing the capper, telling Secrets that in an election do-over, Biden would lose to former President Donald Trump.

By a six-point margin, 43%-37%, likely voters would pick Trump over Biden “if the next presidential election were held today.”

The details of the survey, which samples more Democrats than Republicans, showed that Trump would win more women and blacks than he did in 2020 when he lost to Biden, 46.8%-51.3%.

A sizable 14% would choose “some other candidate,” though none were named.

The survey comes at a key point in Biden’s presidency. He is now under fire for bungling America’s withdrawal from Afghanistan, increasing inflation, and spiraling crime.

Several other surveys out this week have shown his approval rating underwater, a place Trump floated for much of his presidency.

Today, Axios headlined, “Biden's average approval rating drops below 50% for first time.” It cited poll trackers from FiveThirtyEight and RealClearPolitics.

The site added, “This marks a precipitous decline from the FiveThirtyEight peak of 55.1% in March and the RCP peak of 55.7% in April.”

[Strike 3,979]

Biden comes out of his cave today, makes a brief statement about Covid with nothing about Afghanistan and doesn't take questions, and now is back on vacation heading to Delaware.  WTF is wrong with him?   And by what is wrong with him, I mean I'm seriously concerned about his health and whether we may start seeing the transition to a new President soon......

[IndyColtsFan 36]

On 8/14/2021 at 6:15 AM, Hardcore troubadour said:

Simple Jack weighs in again. Hint: one guy had a plan with stipulations for our withdrawal. The other guy didn’t, just a date with political symbolism. Guess who is who. Hint 2: They guy you say you voted for is the one with the good plan, not the guy you actually voted for. Ya Fockin fraud.  

Trump drew down our troop forces to about 2,500 as part of a deal that Biden mostly followed with the exception of the timeline that would have put the pullout in May.