Trans Kids

[GutterBoy 2,899]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Another non-responsive response.  But hey, you got your political shots in so you're good.  I guess this guy is a Republican then:

https://www.newsweek.com/sc-democrat-cezar-mcknight-introduces-bill-ban-gender-transition-surgery-minors-1577365

Actually I was refuting tardcores political shot, simply stating both sides do it.  And you refuted his comment with your link as well.

Are we done or do you still want me to answer any nonsensical questions you have?

[Strike 5,594]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Actually I was refuting tardcores political shot, simply stating both sides do it.  And you refuted his comment with your link as well.

Are we done or do you still want me to answer any nonsensical questions you have?

Posted a reply but fock it, it's just not worth it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Actually I was refuting tardcores political shot, simply stating both sides do it.  And you refuted his comment with your link as well.

Are we done or do you still want me to answer any nonsensical questions you have?

Delusional moron. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Delusional moron. 

Democrats don't want to ban gender affirming care for minors? Strikes link says otherwise 

[TimHauck 2,922]

36 minutes ago, Strike said:

This has nothing to do with the position I'm asking about, but thanks for playing.

Why did you say this then?  You seemed oddly focused on the word “ban.”

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Not one person here has said these things should be banned.  They should not be permitted until a person is an adult, for various reasons.  We restrict kids from doing a lot of things in life.  Are you suggesting we remove a minimum drinking age, statutory rape laws, etc....? 

 

[TimHauck 2,922]

36 minutes ago, Strike said:

None of this addresses my point, and your diversions don't either.   Isn't having a law on statutory rape deciding what's best for someone else's kids?    Why won't you address that point?  Right, because it undermines the retarded point you're trying to make. 

So you agree that the government deciding what’s best for someone’s kid can be a good thing, cool

[GutterBoy 2,899]

This is classic strike and tardcore

[The Real timschochet 6,858]

@Strike earlier this morning you asserted that doctors are using children as Guinea pigs without concern for their well-being. I wrote that I did not believe this and asked you to produce actual evidence (not anecdotes) that this was true. You didn’t respond but I am asking again. 
 

I think you’re presenting a warped view of what is actually happening, either for political purposes, or because you’re personally disgusted by the whole subject matter, or because you’re simply ignorant. But one way or another I think you’re lying. 

[jerryskids 6,844]

21 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Ever since the beginning of this country’s history, we have had a debate between the libertarian ideal., which you represent in your post, of “leave people alone to do what they want” vs the Calvinist ideal, which is “I know what’s best for you and I’m going to make sure the law protects you and children.” 

What’s fascinating about this debate is that conservatives and liberals often switch sides. Sometimes liberals are libertarian (in the case of abortion and trans surgeries), sometimes they are Calvinistic (for example vaccines or gun control.) Conservatives are just as inconsistent. 

Interesting point.  I read somewhere recently that the current philosophical battle is not conservative vs. liberal, but authoritarian vs libertarian.   

[The Real timschochet 6,858]

18 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Interesting point.  I read somewhere recently that the current philosophical battle is not conservative vs. liberal, but authoritarian vs libertarian.   

I didn’t use “authoritarian” because that usually indicates a rejection of democracy in general. A Calvinistic attitude, on the other hand and for lack of a better term, would be more of “we want to force this in the interest of the public by electing leaders who will do so”- in other words it is for larger government involvement but within the democratic system. Incidentally, this is pretty much the same principle that separates Democratic Socialism from Communism. The former want to achieve their socialist ideas through our current system of government, while Communists want to replace our system. I can’t emphasize enough how crucial this difference is and why it completely rebuts the current conservative attempt to conflate the two. 

[BuckSwope 654]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

“We have to introduce puberty blockers before puberty!” isn’t much of an argument.

If you are opposed to them, no it's not.   

Mostly I hear it when people say things like they are for banning the use of them in minors.   That's bascially saying you are for banning them, since the point of them is to block something that already happened while they were a minor.   I could be wrong, but I doubt many 18+ patients would go that route, it would be a quicker path to surgery.   The hormore therapy is different at that point.  

 

[BuckSwope 654]

4 hours ago, Strike said:

Another non-responsive response.  But hey, you got your political shots in so you're good.  I guess this guy is a Republican then:

https://www.newsweek.com/sc-democrat-cezar-mcknight-introduces-bill-ban-gender-transition-surgery-minors-1577365

Wait, all libs aren't pedo groomers who want to dress up our boys in lipstick and chop off their tallywhackers??!!  

[MDC 7,505]

17 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

If you are opposed to them, no it's not.   

Mostly I hear it when people say things like they are for banning the use of them in minors.   That's bascially saying you are for banning them, since the point of them is to block something that already happened while they were a minor.   I could be wrong, but I doubt many 18+ patients would go that route, it would be a quicker path to surgery.   The hormore therapy is different at that point.  

 

It’s sort of a catch 22. Puberty blockers are only useful for pre-pubescent or pubescent kids. But most of the kids who would be prescribed blockers will have grown out of within a few years anyway. 

I can tell you as a parent, if my 12-13 year old told me he was trans I’d get him a therapist to work through those feelings. But when it comes to blockers I’d say we’re going to wait it out til he’s 16-17. 

[Fireballer 2,643]

If so many medical professionals agree that the science is settled that men can be women, why is this person so mad?  Why is the forced affirmation so important?  Why does their mental health rely so heavily on affirmation by the very society who’s norms they’re trying to destroy?  It’s almost like the affirmation is more important than the transition itself.  If their minds are perfectly functioning and their body is wrong, shouldn’t they be able to overcome the minute emotional hurdle of not being affirmed by ignorant conservatives?  

 

[BuckSwope 654]

15 minutes ago, MDC said:

It’s sort of a catch 22. Puberty blockers are only useful for pre-pubescent or pubescent kids. But most of the kids who would be prescribed blockers will have grown out of within a few years anyway. 

I can tell you as a parent, if my 12-13 year old told me he was trans I’d get him a therapist to work through those feelings. But when it comes to blockers I’d say we’re going to wait it out til he’s 16-17. 

I don't know the answer either.   I also don't know the stats and reporting on this, either - how do they come to those %s.   

Most that just declare they were trans?  Did they also go to a dr? Questions like that.     

Regardless, it doesn't really change my position, it's just info I find interesting when I see stats like the one you have posted, and I have seen other places.  

[BuckSwope 654]

29 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

If so many medical professionals agree that the science is settled that men can be women, why is this person so mad?  Why is the forced affirmation so important?  Why does their mental health rely so heavily on affirmation by the very society who’s norms they’re trying to destroy?  It’s almost like the affirmation is more important than the transition itself.  If their minds are perfectly functioning and their body is wrong, shouldn’t they be able to overcome the minute emotional hurdle of not being affirmed by ignorant conservatives?  

 

Of course they should be able to.    Not sure what that has to do with being trans though.  

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

2 hours ago, Fireballer said:

If so many medical professionals agree that the science is settled that men can be women, why is this person so mad?  Why is the forced affirmation so important?  Why does their mental health rely so heavily on affirmation by the very society who’s norms they’re trying to destroy?  It’s almost like the affirmation is more important than the transition itself.  If their minds are perfectly functioning and their body is wrong, shouldn’t they be able to overcome the minute emotional hurdle of not being affirmed by ignorant conservatives?  

 

I'm sorry, if one is not sloughing off a iuterine lining one is not experiencing a menstral cycle or a period.  One ids interpreting circadian rythms to be more than they are.

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

Apparently my edit of the typo on uterine just refuses to take.  

[jonmx 2,429]

4 hours ago, Fireballer said:

If so many medical professionals agree that the science is settled that men can be women, why is this person so mad?  Why is the forced affirmation so important?  Why does their mental health rely so heavily on affirmation by the very society who’s norms they’re trying to destroy?  It’s almost like the affirmation is more important than the transition itself.  If their minds are perfectly functioning and their body is wrong, shouldn’t they be able to overcome the minute emotional hurdle of not being affirmed by ignorant conservatives?  

 

A well adjusted liberal.  Great to see how the surgery has made such a very well adjusted person.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

Next thing you know they’ll be banning urinals in schools. 

[lod001 1,344]

How to tell the world you still have a johnson without saying it:

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

3 minutes ago, lod001 said:

How to tell the world you still have a johnson without saying it:

 

That person is a pharmacist.  I would not refer to them as a Dr, and neither should they or anyone else.  Did I do that right? 

[League Champion 1,911]

Former NFL star Marcellus Wiley made headlines over the weekend when he took to social media to address transgender competitors in women’s sports.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2023/02/former-nfl-star-says-daughters-wont-compete-against-transgender-athletes-we-are-out-of-there.html

[Fireballer 2,643]

3 hours ago, League Champion said:

Former NFL star Marcellus Wiley made headlines over the weekend when he took to social media to address transgender competitors in women’s sports.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2023/02/former-nfl-star-says-daughters-wont-compete-against-transgender-athletes-we-are-out-of-there.html

He’s right

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,146]

5 hours ago, League Champion said:

Former NFL star Marcellus Wiley made headlines over the weekend when he took to social media to address transgender competitors in women’s sports.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2023/02/former-nfl-star-says-daughters-wont-compete-against-transgender-athletes-we-are-out-of-there.html

 

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

He’s right

We need more and more people to come out against the Trans Insanity that the American Left has embraced.  No more.  Time to purge them and anyone sympathetic with them from all positions of power or any role where decision making regarding male/female is done.

[jonmx 2,429]

On 2/12/2023 at 5:53 PM, BuckSwope said:

Wait, all libs aren't pedo groomers who want to dress up our boys in lipstick and chop off their tallywhackers??!!  

You don't get elected in SC by being a flaming liberal pedo groomer.  One non-idiot with a -D after their name does not prove anything about the pedo groomers who mostly have -D after their names.  

[Fireballer 2,643]

Modern day equivalent of the Diff’rent Strokes bike shop episodes

 

[MDC 7,505]

28 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Modern day equivalent of the Diff’rent Strokes bike shop episodes

 

The fact that these quotes were chopped into tiny pieces and set to a horror movie soundtrack makes me thing maybe things are being take most of context here.  

[Fireballer 2,643]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

The fact that these quotes were chopped into tiny pieces and set to a horror movie soundtrack makes me thing maybe things are being take most of context here.  

This dude has been around for a while and just as creepy in full length videos.  Dude has a kids only Patreon to coach them to dissolve their relationships with their parents.

[MDC 7,505]

9 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

This dude has been around for a while and just as creepy in full length videos.  Dude has a kids only Patreon to coach them to dissolve their relationships with their parents.

Dan Savage, a 50-something gay guy has a relationship and sex podcast called Savage Lovecast. He talks about that from time to time too - LGBT people who have toxic parents who don’t accept them and how your leverage in dealing with them is to not interact with them anymore if they don’t accept who you are.

Dude in your video is probably a well meaning weirdo not a sexual groomer. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

If you haven’t completed puberty then you haven’t fully naturally  trans’d.  

[jonmx 2,429]

26 minutes ago, MDC said:

Dan Savage, a 50-something gay guy has a relationship and sex podcast called Savage Lovecast. He talks about that from time to time too - LGBT people who have toxic parents who don’t accept them and how your leverage in dealing with them is to not interact with them anymore if they don’t accept who you are.

Dude in your video is probably a well meaning weirdo not a sexual groomer. 

Lol...well-meaning weirdo....he is a full-blown pervert providing advise on situations he knows nothing about.   I swear liberals must have had the worst parents as they view parents as the root of all evil.  

[Fireballer 2,643]

1 minute ago, jonmx said:

Lol...well-meaning weirdo....he is a full-blown pervert providing advise on situations he knows nothing about.   I swear liberals must have had the worst parents as they view parents as the root of all evil.  

The nuclear family is the enemy of the far left

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

Good thing he’s not a sexual groomer. So if he convinces a kid to mutilate themselves that’s ok. Whew. 

[MDC 7,505]

18 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Lol...well-meaning weirdo....he is a full-blown pervert providing advise on situations he knows nothing about.   I swear liberals must have had the worst parents as they view parents as the root of all evil.  

What makes you think he knows nothing about these situations? He definitely looks like someone who had problems with his folks.  

[Fireballer 2,643]

Why is the Selective Service transphobic?  Why has Congress not acted to fairly allow trans people to serve their country if a draft is necessary? When will trans teens fight for their right to register?  This is atrocious.  Or...is the little-talked about Selective Service the last bastion of the grown ups in our government?

Selective Service bases the registration requirement on gender assigned at birth and not on gender identity or on gender reassignment. Individuals who are born male and changed their gender to female are still required to register. Individuals who are born female and changed their gender to male are not required to register.

 

 

 

[squistion 2,227]

31 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Why is the Selective Service transphobic?  Why has Congress not acted to fairly allow trans people to serve their country if a draft is necessary? When will trans teens fight for their right to register?  This is atrocious.  Or...is the little-talked about Selective Service the last bastion of the grown ups in our government?

Selective Service bases the registration requirement on gender assigned at birth and not on gender identity or on gender reassignment. Individuals who are born male and changed their gender to female are still required to register. Individuals who are born female and changed their gender to male are not required to register.

They probably consider it a moot point as the draft was eliminated by Nixon in 1973. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

Just now, squistion said:

They probably consider it a moot point as the draft was eliminated by Nixon in 1973. 

Huh? The draft for the Vietnam war was ended. Good lord. What do you think you were registering for when you turned 18? Unless you’re a gal. 

[RogerDodger 798]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

They probably consider it a moot point as the draft was eliminated by Nixon in 1973. 

WTF?  You have brain cancer?  

[Voltaire 5,322]

On 2/12/2023 at 6:10 PM, Fireballer said:

If so many medical professionals agree that the science is settled that men can be women, why is this person so mad?  Why is the forced affirmation so important?  Why does their mental health rely so heavily on affirmation by the very society who’s norms they’re trying to destroy?  It’s almost like the affirmation is more important than the transition itself.  If their minds are perfectly functioning and their body is wrong, shouldn’t they be able to overcome the minute emotional hurdle of not being affirmed by ignorant conservatives?  

 

What does he mean when he says he's going to put sane people on blast (2:19)?

Urban dictionary doesn't help.  https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blast  Maybe definition four by jam and gre.