EternalShinyAndChrome 4,133 Posted January 30, 2023 57 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Just ask those who suffered under Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, to name a few. This is where the left is headed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,590 Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, RLLD said: I did some digging, sounds like the Memphis dept needs a criminal investigation in general. The word I get is that the dept is a mess and it’s a mess because of bad leadership, apparently this Sarah Lynn davis? Not sure who that is, but the name was dropped to me….apparently she comes there from Atlanta where she was booted for unethical behavior? I will look into that to see if it’s true…. These guys should have never been cops, and I think the DOJ may need to take over this thing entirely….sounds like a complete mess She was fired and then reinstated: https://www.ajc.com/news/crime/tyre-nichols-case-memphis-police-chief-was-once-fired-from-atlanta-police-department/AQOEVCMVXZHQPD2NILO5Q2EYWI/ Shouldn't have been reinstated but that's what happens with government jobs. No one in Memphis will ever admit it, but this looks like an affirmative action hire- she checks not one but two boxes. And this is what happens with affirmative action hires. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 283 Posted January 30, 2023 Was reading up on Memphis. Did not know that Memphis was so crime ridden and one of the most dangerous cities for violent crime. Thought it was kinda like Nashville. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said: Was reading up on Memphis. Did not know that Memphis was so crime ridden and one of the most dangerous cities for violent crime. Thought it was kinda like Nashville. Memphis. Violent as hell. Run by a democrat. Race problems coming out their ass. Go figure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,874 Posted January 30, 2023 20 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: You’re an extremely intelligent and thoughtful guy and it shows in a post like this one. But I also think you’re very naive when it comes to racism. And precisely because you’re so smart, I have to believe your naïveté is willful. I think you realize that it would upset your world view to accept reality on this matter. You are so full of yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,844 Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Tim probably thinks segregation is good. Cause the intentions I do not. I find it amusing, yet somewhat exasperating, that so many of you seem to think I support radical leftist ideas. In most cases I don’t. I am an old fashioned, New Deal, Great Society liberal, and most of these radical leftist ideas are as much of an anathema to me as radical right wing ideas are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Tim probably thinks segregation is good. Cause the intentions White people gave equality a shot. But it seems like blacks want the segregation and who am I to tell them no? There is some chick in Canada that is putting on a state funded play that only black people are welcome to go watch. I for one am all for it. Just don't expect me to go to any of your all inclusive shlt at a later date. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,590 Posted January 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I do not. I find it amusing, yet somewhat exasperating, that so many of you seem to think I support radical leftist ideas. In most cases I don’t. I am an old fashioned, New Deal, Great Society liberal, and most of these radical leftist ideas are as much of an anathema to me as radical right wing ideas are. Yeah, your opposition to open borders has proven that you aren't radical AT ALL!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,874 Posted January 30, 2023 4 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Yep. Also, remember when "Segregation" (separate but equal) was racist? Yeah, apparently the left thinks that it's okay now and not racist anymore. MLK would be turning over in his grave if he knew how the left has perverted and twisted his message. Isn't it wild? I remember I first heard this with NYU a few years ago. The left doesn't know what they actually want. They just want people to feel shame. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 283 Posted January 30, 2023 This is a sad story. A women disappointed the protest was not as big or violent as it should have been. More than two weeks after Nichols was killed after being pulled over for what police said was reckless driving, Ayanna Robinson drove 6 1/2 hours from Indianapolis to Memphis to join demonstrations she thought would include thousands of angry protesters of the recorded beating of Nichols by police officers. She arrived to find dozens, not thousands, of protesters and they seemed very calm. Robinson, 28, a manager at a Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant, said the turnout was nothing like what she saw in Memphis after Floyd, a Black man, was murdered in Minneapolis police custody in May 2020. In a way, the city seemed too peaceful after the Nichols killing, she said. “In order to get a reaction, there has to be a reaction, and right now there’s no type of action,” she said, looking around a park where 100 protesters gathered Friday evening. Robinson said one of the major reasons she thought many people seemed more subdued in response to the Nichols death was that the five officers charged in beating him are Black. If the officers had been White, “All hell would have broken loose. The city would have been in war.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,844 Posted January 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Strike said: Yeah, your opposition to open borders has proven that you aren't radical AT ALL!!!! My views on that issue are aligned with the libertarian movement and the Chamber of Commerce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,874 Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Mike Hunt said: This is a sad story. A women disappointed the protest was not as big or violent as it should have been. More than two weeks after Nichols was killed after being pulled over for what police said was reckless driving, Ayanna Robinson drove 6 1/2 hours from Indianapolis to Memphis to join demonstrations she thought would include thousands of angry protesters of the recorded beating of Nichols by police officers. She arrived to find dozens, not thousands, of protesters and they seemed very calm. Robinson, 28, a manager at a Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant, said the turnout was nothing like what she saw in Memphis after Floyd, a Black man, was murdered in Minneapolis police custody in May 2020. In a way, the city seemed too peaceful after the Nichols killing, she said. “In order to get a reaction, there has to be a reaction, and right now there’s no type of action,” she said, looking around a park where 100 protesters gathered Friday evening. Robinson said one of the major reasons she thought many people seemed more subdued in response to the Nichols death was that the five officers charged in beating him are Black. If the officers had been White, “All hell would have broken loose. The city would have been in war.” This is about right. They don't actually care about black people dying. They just want to shout racism. Anyone that says otherwise is just lying to themselves. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted January 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I do not. I find it amusing, yet somewhat exasperating, that so many of you seem to think I support radical leftist ideas. In most cases I don’t. I am an old fashioned, New Deal, Great Society liberal, and most of these radical leftist ideas are as much of an anathema to me as radical right wing ideas are. You like FDR? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,874 Posted January 30, 2023 Not surprised Tyre Nichols death: 2 Memphis officers involved in stop joined department after it lowered hiring standards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted January 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: My views on that issue are aligned with the libertarian movement and the Chamber of Commerce. Yup. The Chamber of commerce. The ones that want all the cheap labor. Makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,590 Posted January 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: My views on that issue are aligned with the libertarian movement and the Chamber of Commerce Maybe, maybe not. That's not relevant to the point we were discussing. Point is, your stance on open borders is aligned with the radical lefties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kozmiq 70 Posted January 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Not surprised Tyre Nichols death: 2 Memphis officers involved in stop joined department after it lowered hiring standards Oh sh!t .. suxdix is gonna come by and berate you for your font. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,912 Posted January 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said: This is a sad story. A women disappointed the protest was not as big or violent as it should have been. More than two weeks after Nichols was killed after being pulled over for what police said was reckless driving, Ayanna Robinson drove 6 1/2 hours from Indianapolis to Memphis to join demonstrations she thought would include thousands of angry protesters of the recorded beating of Nichols by police officers. She arrived to find dozens, not thousands, of protesters and they seemed very calm. Robinson, 28, a manager at a Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant, said the turnout was nothing like what she saw in Memphis after Floyd, a Black man, was murdered in Minneapolis police custody in May 2020. In a way, the city seemed too peaceful after the Nichols killing, she said. “In order to get a reaction, there has to be a reaction, and right now there’s no type of action,” she said, looking around a park where 100 protesters gathered Friday evening. Robinson said one of the major reasons she thought many people seemed more subdued in response to the Nichols death was that the five officers charged in beating him are Black. If the officers had been White, “All hell would have broken loose. The city would have been in war.” She doesn’t seem disappointed they weren’t as violent, IMO. She is disappointed they weren’t as big though. I still maintain that swift charges were probably the biggest factor in helping reduce the protests Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted January 30, 2023 They released the video now because it’s January,not during a trial that might be in the warm weather. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,844 Posted January 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You like FDR? That’s a complicated question that would take too long to answer. I like the New Deal and the political movement he started. There are other aspects of his presidency I strongly dislike. But since FDR was the single man most responsible for the destruction of Nazi Germany I’m willing to forgive a great deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360 Posted January 30, 2023 44 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I do not. I find it amusing, yet somewhat exasperating, that so many of you seem to think I support radical leftist ideas. In most cases I don’t. I am an old fashioned, New Deal, Great Society liberal, and most of these radical leftist ideas are as much of an anathema to me as radical right wing ideas are. you think woke is the future, therefore leftist please tell me what a radical right wing idea is? Cause our ideas have done nothing but move left Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted January 30, 2023 30 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: That’s a complicated question that would take too long to answer. I like the New Deal and the political movement he started. There are other aspects of his presidency I strongly dislike. But since FDR was the single man most responsible for the destruction of Nazi Germany I’m willing to forgive a great deal. You forgive him for limiting the amount of Jewish refugees to America during the war to a trickle? And Stalin did more to defeat the Nazis than anyone. Forgive him too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 283 Posted January 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, TimHauck said: She doesn’t seem disappointed they weren’t as violent, IMO. She is disappointed they weren’t as big though. I still maintain that swift charges were probably the biggest factor in helping reduce the protests I agree with that. The tape never lies so there is no reason to wait. Plus it clams things down faster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 283 Posted January 30, 2023 47 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Not surprised Tyre Nichols death: 2 Memphis officers involved in stop joined department after it lowered hiring standards They had to lower standards. Needed bring the police force to 60% black and in line with the city population. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: That’s a complicated question that would take too long to answer. I like the New Deal and the political movement he started. There are other aspects of his presidency I strongly dislike. But since FDR was the single man most responsible for the destruction of Nazi Germany I’m willing to forgive a great deal. The ghost of Joseph Stalin would like a word with you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted January 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: The ghost of Joseph Stalin would like a word with you Tim has forgotten more about history than you know. He even wrote a paper in college. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted January 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Tim has forgotten more about history than you know. He even wrote a paper in college. Lots of folks have forgotten more history than I know, or imagined I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,844 Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You forgive him for limiting the amount of Jewish refugees to America during the war to a trickle? And Stalin did more to defeat the Nazis than anyone. Forgive him too? Joseph Stalin is a mass murderer and therefore a different category of human being than FDR. His crimes are unforgivable. Stalin is also not nearly as responsible as FDR for crushing Hitler. Stalin’s stupidity nearly lost all of Russia to Hitler. His mistakes and murderous actions that hurt Russia are too long to list here. Thankfully the Russian people responded heroically despite him. And even so they might not have won without Lend-Lease, FDR’s creation. I cannot forgive FDR for keeping Jews out, nor for imprisoning thousands of innocent Japanese Americans. But overall he was one of our best Presidents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,844 Posted January 30, 2023 Damn we are far from the topic! Let’s get back to the subject. I know a lot of people on both sides believe that the biggest reason there were no riots is because the cops were black. And of course that is a big reason, stupid to deny it. But I think an even bigger reason is how quickly the Memphis Police responded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,836 Posted January 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Damn we are far from the topic! Let’s get back to the subject. I know a lot of people on both sides believe that the biggest reason there were no riots is because the cops were black. And of course that is a big reason, stupid to deny it. But I think an even bigger reason is how quickly the Memphis Police responded. You mean how they sat on the video for 20 days before firing and charging the officers, THEN released the video? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,844 Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: You mean how they sat on the video for 20 days before firing and charging the officers, THEN released the video? Quicker than usual is my understanding. Sometimes it takes months or years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,836 Posted January 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Quicker than usual is my understanding. Sometimes it takes months or years. I don't think that the absolute time mattered as much as firing and charging them before the video was released, be it a day/month/year or more. Well, that and that the officers were black. But on the timing, obviously that was not an option with Floyd because there was public video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted January 30, 2023 https://patriotdetroit.com/columnists/charlie-kirk/blog/report-memphis-police-officers-involved-in-nichols-beating-hired-after-dept-lowered-standards-report Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kozmiq 70 Posted January 30, 2023 If only that would have happened with Rodney King. Then exonerating all the Police officers is what ended up getting OJ found not guilty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,321 Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Damn we are far from the topic! Let’s get back to the subject. I know a lot of people on both sides believe that the biggest reason there were no riots is because the cops were black. And of course that is a big reason, stupid to deny it. But I think an even bigger reason is how quickly the Memphis Police responded. i don't know enough of how BLM thinks to speculate as to the reason whiy, but I do see this subdued reaction is a promising sign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,844 Posted January 30, 2023 44 minutes ago, Voltaire said: i don't know enough of how BLM thinks to speculate as to the reason whiy, but I do see this subdued reaction is a promising sign. BLM isn’t a well organized group that decides what’s going to happen. Neither is MAGA for that matter. When peoples get mad, they get mad. More often than not the “organizing group” rushes to react to the anger rather than instigate it. There’s that old story of the French politician who said “there goes my people. I must follow them, find out what they’re protesting, and take charge!” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,703 Posted January 30, 2023 https://babylonbee.com/news/new-netflix-series-on-tyre-nichols-beating-to-feature-white-officers New Netflix Series On Tyre Nichols Beating To Feature White Officers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,844 Posted January 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: https://babylonbee.com/news/new-netflix-series-on-tyre-nichols-beating-to-feature-white-officers New Netflix Series On Tyre Nichols Beating To Feature White Officers I know that Babylon Bee is supposed to be the conservative version of The Onion. The difference is that The Onion skews both conservatives and liberals alike, and is funny while doing it. Somehow the Bee is never funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,836 Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: I know that Babylon Bee is supposed to be the conservative version of The Onion. The difference is that The Onion skews both conservatives and liberals alike, and is funny while doing it. Somehow the Bee is never funny. The Bee is often funny, which is why they are successful and have a large readership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,409 Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Baker Boy said: https://babylonbee.com/news/new-netflix-series-on-tyre-nichols-beating-to-feature-white-officers New Netflix Series On Tyre Nichols Beating To Feature White Officers 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: I know that Babylon Bee is supposed to be the conservative version of The Onion. The difference is that The Onion skews both conservatives and liberals alike, and is funny while doing it. Somehow the Bee is never funny. 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: The Bee is often funny, which is why they are successful and have a large readership. The Bee nailed it Timmah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites