Hardcore troubadour 15,511 Posted February 19, 2023 You can argue all you want about who’s fault it is. But what’s not in question is that the response to this has been a disaster. As inhumane and unfeeling about American citizens as it gets. The democrats have good practice at it. They completely ignore and disregard American citizens at the southern border and their pleas for relief. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,361 Posted February 20, 2023 https://www.instagram.com/reel/Co3P86cs3R0/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= good guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 20, 2023 12 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Co3P86cs3R0/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= good guy That was awesome. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,932 Posted February 20, 2023 17 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You can argue all you want about who’s fault it is. But what’s not in question is that the response to this has been a disaster. As inhumane and unfeeling about American citizens as it gets. The democrats have good practice at it. They completely ignore and disregard American citizens at the southern border and their pleas for relief. Muh Ukraine 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted February 20, 2023 18 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You can argue all you want about who’s fault it is. But what’s not in question is that the response to this has been a disaster. As inhumane and unfeeling about American citizens as it gets. The democrats have good practice at it. They completely ignore and disregard American citizens at the southern border and their pleas for relief. What did Democrats do that was bad that Republicans would have done a better job at? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: What did Democrats do that was bad that Republicans would have done a better job at? Hard to do much when the mayor turns down help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted February 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Hard to do much when the mayor turns down help. You mean this guy? "I need help," East Palestine Mayor Trent Conaway said at a town hall on Wednesday night. "I'm not ready for this. I wasn't built for this." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,918 Posted February 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: You mean this guy? "I need help," East Palestine Mayor Trent Conaway said at a town hall on Wednesday night. "I'm not ready for this. I wasn't built for this." Governor, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted February 20, 2023 How many people died from this disaster of the century? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: You mean this guy? "I need help," East Palestine Mayor Trent Conaway said at a town hall on Wednesday night. "I'm not ready for this. I wasn't built for this." Was it the Mayor or Governor. One of them turned down help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 20, 2023 Just now, dogcows said: How many people died from this disaster of the century? Who said it was the disaster of the century? Why would you want to downplay this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted February 20, 2023 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: Who said it was the disaster of the century? Why would you want to downplay this? So how many people died from it? Just asking questions… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, dogcows said: So how many people died from it? Just asking questions… This isn't going to be one of those disasters that kills people right away. We're talking about poisoning people and no one taking responsibility for it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted February 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, dogcows said: So how many people died from it? Just asking questions… This guy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted February 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: This isn't going to be one of those disasters that kills people right away. We're talking about poisoning people and no one taking responsibility for it. How do you know? And if that does happen, why do you assume the railroad company won’t be held responsible? Years of observations of corporations getting away with misdeeds in the name of deregulation perhaps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted February 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Reality said: This guy... Nope I’m still alive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, dogcows said: How do you know? And if that does happen, why do you assume the railroad company won’t be held responsible? Years of observations of corporations getting away with misdeeds in the name of deregulation perhaps? I don't know for sure but I can reasonably think what will happen based on what we've seen so far and with what has happened in our history. So far the railroad company is doing nothing to help these people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted February 20, 2023 43 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Was it the Mayor or Governor. One of them turned down help. The republican governor never asked for help. He told residents to return to their homes and it was safe. It's clear that Republicans do not care about people anymore. They only care about imaginary pedo baby eating rings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: The republican governor never asked for help. He told residents to return to their homes and it was safe. It's clear that Republicans do not care about people anymore. They only care about imaginary pedo baby eating rings. I haven't gotten the feeling that any democrats care either. I haven't seen them do anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted February 20, 2023 Interesting take on the situation and how people are playing politics in its aftermath: https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/trump-east-palestine-visit-railroad-regulations-20230219.html#loaded Quote With the investigation into the East Palestine wreck still in its early phases, it’s not clear if the modern brakes — originally required for installation by 2021 — could have prevented the toxic derailment or whether the specific Obama rule would have applied. But experts do believe the new brakes could have mitigated the wreckage — and thus the release of so many hazardous chemicals. And the rule reversal wasn’t the only time that Team Trump sided with Big Rail over the forgotten Americans who live on the wrong side of their tracks. In 2019, for example, the Trump administration moved to not strengthen but relax regulations on shipping fracked natural gas through communities like East Palestine. The same year, Trump’s White House also killed an Obama-era proposal that would have required two crew members in freight-train locomotives. It probably won’t shock you to learn that the men Trump appointed to run the Federal Railroad Administration and the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration had both been top executives in the lucrative freight industry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted February 20, 2023 Look, I have it on great authority that the only thing that can be toxic on this planet is white masculinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,511 Posted February 20, 2023 This POS Biden is out traveling the globe to protect his own interests and he can’t even do a Bush style fly over in Ohio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted February 20, 2023 Trump's regulations were diluted, now Ohio is polluted. Blood on his hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: This POS Biden is out traveling the globe to protect his own interests and he can’t even do a Bush style fly over in Ohio. Yup! Gotta make sure those Ukrainian pensions are all paid up. Meanwhile in America, single Moms and low income Families are going to bed hungry tonight. Who voted for this A-Hole? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,511 Posted February 21, 2023 Lesson learned: Don’t live in poor white areas, unless you like dangerous toxins rolling through your town and fentanyl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,878 Posted February 21, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 2:34 PM, JustinCharge said: tl;dr Mike DeWine MAJORLY screwed the GOP in 2005. He has a second political life but if he screws up the Ohio train derailment crisis in any way, I question if republicans will run to his aid. DeWine is term limited in 2026. This is his final gig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted February 21, 2023 21 hours ago, dogcows said: How many people died from this disaster of the century? I think the question for the town is how many will die in the future due to exposure. I would be concerned if I lived there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 21, 2023 10 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Lesson learned: Don’t live in poor white areas, unless you like dangerous toxins rolling through your town and fentanyl. Like Canton, OH and Pittsburgh, PA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted February 21, 2023 19 hours ago, dogcows said: Interesting take on the situation and how people are playing politics in its aftermath: https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/trump-east-palestine-visit-railroad-regulations-20230219.html#loaded It is amazing. Just think idiots like Gretchen, and the people that elected her, want to move more products via train. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted February 21, 2023 Breaking Points had an excellent video on this issue over the weekend. Plenty of blame to go around to all sides. Ultimately the dollar won out and until it stops winning, this will continue to happen. We still don't have a reason for this derailment yet, so more will come to light, but they also highlighted how the recent amount of trains derailing is not normal, no matter how someone wants to frame it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Ultra Max Power said: Breaking Points had an excellent video on this issue over the weekend. Plenty of blame to go around to all sides. Ultimately the dollar won out and until it stops winning, this will continue to happen. We still don't have a reason for this derailment yet, so more will come to light, but they also highlighted how the recent amount of trains derailing is not normal, no matter how someone wants to frame it. Yeah, they broke down the erosion of safety over profits well over the last decade +. No admission is guilt-free. Profits over people is the real American way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,918 Posted February 21, 2023 31 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said: Breaking Points had an excellent video on this issue over the weekend. Plenty of blame to go around to all sides. Ultimately the dollar won out and until it stops winning, this will continue to happen. which one? they've done a bunch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: which one? they've done a bunch 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,849 Posted February 21, 2023 Good piece in the Washington Post this morning about how some on the right are trying to make this a racial story. Tucker Carlson has argued that if this happened in Philadelphia or Chicago (wink wink) the federal government’s response would be much different and greater. I guess he’s forgotten about Hurricane Katrina… 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted February 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Good piece in the Washington Post this morning about how some on the right are trying to make this a racial story. Tucker Carlson has argued that if this happened in Philadelphia or Chicago (wink wink) the federal government’s response would be much different and greater. I guess he’s forgotten about Hurricane Katrina… I just read that article. Pretty disgusting for Carlson to pretend this is some kind of intentional attack on white people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted February 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, dogcows said: I just read that article. Pretty disgusting for Carlson to pretend this is some kind of intentional attack on white people. Carlson is a disgusting person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted February 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, dogcows said: I just read that article. Pretty disgusting for Carlson to pretend this is some kind of intentional attack on white people. Agreed, even for a journalist! It is much more disgusting that the transportation secretary is simply blowing it off with his "It happens all the time" attitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,511 Posted February 21, 2023 It’s not an attack on white people. It’s about not GAF about poor white people. If it happened in a rich white area the response would have been much better. Not caring isn't attacking. Get it straight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,918 Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Carlson is a disgusting person. yup On 2/17/2023 at 6:34 AM, TimHauck said: Speaking of Tucker, here he is doing that thing where he laughs at bad news (“this is very bad news” is literally the title of the video). What a POS. At least he calls out the Repub Governor too, but I guess he’s just a RINO anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted February 21, 2023 20 hours ago, dogcows said: Interesting take on the situation and how people are playing politics in its aftermath: https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/trump-east-palestine-visit-railroad-regulations-20230219.html#loaded stop blaming trump. biden is in year 3 of his term. thats a long time to look at everything and change policy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
