peenie 1,905 Posted June 19, 2023 This country is so prosperous and happy that politicians and the media are making up crazy scenarios for you to worry about. You’re actually spending your days and nights thinking about Trans people and reparations. Reparations doesn’t exist and trans people barely exist. Can’t you see that the news is simply trying to get consistent viewers through propaganda and sensationalism? Notice how the war in Ukraine is a smaller and smaller story. What did Bill Gates do and say in China? Why didn’t Biden meet with China’s President instead of the Secretary of State? Do we need a war or depression to make you realize what’s important in life? Don’t be lemmings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,486 Posted June 19, 2023 Sad you couldn't take your own advice when Trump was president 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,186 Posted June 19, 2023 1 minute ago, peenie said: This country is so prosperous and happy that politicians and the media are making up crazy scenarios for you to worry about. You’re actually spending your days and nights thinking about Trans people and reparations. Reparations doesn’t exist and trans people barely exist. Can’t you see that the news is simply trying to get consistent viewers through propaganda and sensationalism? Notice how the war in Ukraine is a smaller and smaller story. What did Bill Gates do and say in China? Why didn’t Biden meet with China’s President instead of the Secretary of State? Do we need a war or depression to make you realize what’s important in life? Don’t be lemmings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,905 Posted June 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Sad you couldn't take your own advice when Trump was president What did I say about Trump? My bank account loved Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted June 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, peenie said: This country is so prosperous and happy that politicians and the media are making up crazy scenarios for you to worry about. You’re actually spending your days and nights thinking about Trans people and reparations. Reparations doesn’t exist and trans people barely exist. Can’t you see that the news is simply trying to get consistent viewers through propaganda and sensationalism? Notice how the war in Ukraine is a smaller and smaller story. What did Bill Gates do and say in China? Why didn’t Biden meet with China’s President instead of the Secretary of State? Do we need a war or depression to make you realize what’s important in life? Don’t be lemmings. LOGICAL FALLACY: False Dichotomy / Black & White Thinking Description: The argument tries to force a conclusion by offering (or implying) an incomplete list of alternatives. Typically only two options are considered, while in fact a number of additional options are available. Comments: A particularly important sub-category of this fallacy - almost common enough and important enough to deserve its own name - is the fallacy of arguing that since we cannot entirely eradicate a problem, we should therefore do nothing about it at all. This is sometimes called "making the perfect the enemy of the good." Examples: "We shouldn't prevent all citizens from owning guns. Hunters and gun collectors have a perfect right to own weapons. Therefore gun control laws of any kind are a bad idea. "My contribution to the Red Cross won't solve the problem of world hunger, so it won't do any good. I won't bother to make a contribution at all." Discussion: Black & White Thinking - the fallacy of leaping from the falsity (or undesirability) of one proposition to the truth (or desirability) of an extreme opposite - is identical in its basic logical structure to False Dichotomy. Both employ reasoning by process of elimination - a perfectly valid form of reasoning known to logicians as Disjunctive Syllogism (the modern name for the form "Modus Tollendo Ponens" as it was known to the ancient Stoics): The flaw, of course, is that the disjunction (or choice) as stated in the major premise, is incomplete, so eliminating one option does not necessitate the adoption of the alternative. The fallacy, of course, seems convincing (and so mimics good reasoning) because reasoning by elimination is a perfectly sound procedure, provided all the possible alternatives are considered.... https://www.palomar.edu/users/bthompson/Black%20and%20White%20Thinking.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted June 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, peenie said: This country is so prosperous and happy that politicians and the media are making up crazy scenarios for you to worry about. You’re actually spending your days and nights thinking about Trans people and reparations. Reparations doesn’t exist and trans people barely exist. Can’t you see that the news is simply trying to get consistent viewers through propaganda and sensationalism? Notice how the war in Ukraine is a smaller and smaller story. What did Bill Gates do and say in China? Why didn’t Biden meet with China’s President instead of the Secretary of State? Do we need a war or depression to make you realize what’s important in life? Don’t be lemmings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237 Posted June 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, peenie said: This country is so prosperous and happy that politicians and the media are making up crazy scenarios for you to worry about. You’re actually spending your days and nights thinking about Trans people and reparations. Reparations doesn’t exist and trans people barely exist. Can’t you see that the news is simply trying to get consistent viewers through propaganda and sensationalism? Notice how the war in Ukraine is a smaller and smaller story. What did Bill Gates do and say in China? Why didn’t Biden meet with China’s President instead of the Secretary of State? Do we need a war or depression to make you realize what’s important in life? Don’t be lemmings. we can play this 100% the opposite as well you know like unarmed blacks are hunted down and killed by cops white supremacy is the biggest terrorist threat trans people are being genocided blah blah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted June 19, 2023 37 minutes ago, peenie said: This country is so prosperous and happy that politicians and the media are making up crazy scenarios for you to worry about. You’re actually spending your days and nights thinking about Trans people and reparations. Reparations doesn’t exist and trans people barely exist. Can’t you see that the news is simply trying to get consistent viewers through propaganda and sensationalism? Notice how the war in Ukraine is a smaller and smaller story. What did Bill Gates do and say in China? Why didn’t Biden meet with China’s President instead of the Secretary of State? Do we need a war or depression to make you realize what’s important in life? Don’t be lemmings. ****** Almost every hard push for "social justice" and to prioritize "identity politics" by Team Blue since the Obama Administration is built around driving specific public policy and enforcing public administration built around "woke" Tax payer dollars. Every dollar printed isn't just robbery of your future and my future, it's spending ahead of time where that impact will punish the children of everyone here. The children of everyone out in the United States, no matter who they vote for and it will likely bleed over into our grandchildren as well. Without economic stability, basic functions for a practical sustainable civil society fall apart. No farming, no water treatment, no energy production, no national defense and national security, no law enforcement, no emergency services, no schools and education, etc, etc - I'm talking about the very basics to keep society moving forward and keep people alive. Every push towards "social justice" to effectively buy votes is wrecking the economy. If you hit the economy enough, you will cause cascading damage to basic material needs for American citizens to survive. Then people start dying. Their children start dying. Let me ask you something - Would you blame any young person in their 20s right now if they didn't want to have kids? Because the country is in a total mess right now. Young people are depressed and many feel hopeless. No likely chance to retire, no chance to buy a home, a social system where everyone is on Tinder and the clear collapse of the public education system around them. No new babies = No new future workers and no future tax payers. You need a new generation of police, doctors, nurses, teachers, farmers, electricians, plumbers, carpenters, etc, etc to make society function. What happens when you have a society that is living longer and longer and the government keeps spending and spending and there is no incentive to have kids which crushes the future tax base? Your society collapses, people starve and die. What's important in life? How about that America's children have a future. Now I want to be fair about this. You are correct that there is more to life than just looking at the world's biggest problems 365/24/7. But to assess others as "lemmings" because the discussion might depress you or others won't clearly be as depressing as full blown future economic collapse. I'm taking a safe bet that when you get very old, you'd like to walk down a safe street and when you walk into a grocery store, that there's food there and food you can afford. Is the MSM a bunch of state sanctioned propaganda? Yes. But there are still nuggets of truth within them and within the non MSM elements out there. IMHO, they are worth looking at because the road to starving and dying is a pretty ugly alternative. You cannot print this much money and in this short of a period and not inflict real chaos and suffering. The economy collapses and people start dying. Hell, lots of people are dying and suffering right now. "This" is not about us anymore. It's about what's left for America's kids. So they have some hope. Some kind of future. That's something, no matter anyone's political leanings, that's actually worth fighting for out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,128 Posted June 19, 2023 They’re gearing up for the 2024 election. Trans stuff is the new migrant caravan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,416 Posted June 19, 2023 We need a real debate about where to go from here. Conservatives have some good ideas. Liberals have some good ideas: independents have some good ideas. We all want what’s best for the country, so we should discuss it. But I don’t know about you guys, but what I DON’T want to discuss any longer, if I can help it, is indictments and classified documents and the 2020 election and lawsuits, etc. etc. it’s exhausting and has nothing to do with the problems we face. So can we please please move on from Donald Trump? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,486 Posted June 19, 2023 40 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Liberals have some good ideas Which one? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,788 Posted June 19, 2023 What do you think ever happened with Preparations A through G? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,612 Posted June 19, 2023 30 minutes ago, wiffleball said: What do you think ever happened with Preparations A through G? This joke wasn't even good when it came out decades and decades ago... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,838 Posted June 19, 2023 Everyone's life is too good and easy. It's why there are so many mentally ill people. They don't have to struggle to survive. So they can focus on the BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted June 19, 2023 2 hours ago, peenie said: This country is so prosperous and happy that politicians and the media are making up crazy scenarios for you to worry about. You’re actually spending your days and nights thinking about Trans people and reparations. Reparations doesn’t exist and trans people barely exist. Can’t you see that the news is simply trying to get consistent viewers through propaganda and sensationalism? Notice how the war in Ukraine is a smaller and smaller story. What did Bill Gates do and say in China? Why didn’t Biden meet with China’s President instead of the Secretary of State? Do we need a war or depression to make you realize what’s important in life? Don’t be lemmings. We need to spend trillions on Ukraine and open the borders wider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,156 Posted June 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: We need to spend trillions on Ukraine and open the borders wider. Thanks to you mr civil war commander we can all sleep comfortably at night. Coward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted June 19, 2023 3 hours ago, peenie said: This country is so prosperous and happy that politicians and the media are making up crazy scenarios for you to worry about. You’re actually spending your days and nights thinking about Trans people and reparations. Reparations doesn’t exist and trans people barely exist. Can’t you see that the news is simply trying to get consistent viewers through propaganda and sensationalism? Notice how the war in Ukraine is a smaller and smaller story. What did Bill Gates do and say in China? Why didn’t Biden meet with China’s President instead of the Secretary of State? Do we need a war or depression to make you realize what’s important in life? Don’t be lemmings. you are missing the entire point. the only way to keep the system running correctly is checks and balances and separation of powers. this is because there is ALWAYS another wanna-be dictator trying to corrupt the system to suit himself. they NEVER stop coming. this means we must always be in a state of eternal vigilance. the second everyone stops caring, then the system gets corrupted and falls apart. its like car maintenance. you always have to check the air in the tires, always need to change the oil, check the brakes, etc.. some people have twisted the concept of vigilance to mean the guy is a prepper crazy type. its like someone not doing routine maintenance on their car claiming its not important, and then mocking anyone who does the keep up on their own. smart people don't say "oh i own a luxury automobile, so im never doing maintenance and upkeep on it because im so prosperous." "oh, no one has ever robbed my house, so its stupid to lock the doors." "id had all my teeth for 20 years, so its really dumb to brush them and see a dentist" "i didnt stink the past 2 days so im never showering again. these crazy scenarios where i smell like funk are just crazy scenarios to worry about" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 863 Posted June 19, 2023 4 hours ago, peenie said: This country is so prosperous and happy that politicians and the media are making up crazy scenarios for you to worry about. Yes, nothing but blue skies. It'll stay that way right up until the day this has to be addressed seriously. I hope that day never comes. https://www.statista.com/statistics/187867/public-debt-of-the-united-states-since-1990/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, JustinCharge said: you are missing the entire point. the only way to keep the system running correctly is checks and balances and separation of powers. this is because there is ALWAYS another wanna-be dictator trying to corrupt the system to suit himself. they NEVER stop coming. this means we must always be in a state of eternal vigilance. the second everyone stops caring, then the system gets corrupted and falls apart. its like car maintenance. you always have to check the air in the tires, always need to change the oil, check the brakes, etc.. some people have twisted the concept of vigilance to mean the guy is a prepper crazy type. its like someone not doing routine maintenance on their car claiming its not important, and then mocking anyone who does the keep up on their own. smart people don't say "oh i own a luxury automobile, so im never doing maintenance and upkeep on it because im so prosperous." "oh, no one has ever robbed my house, so its stupid to lock the doors." "id had all my teeth for 20 years, so its really dumb to brush them and see a dentist" "i didnt stink the past 2 days so im never showering again. these crazy scenarios where i smell like funk are just crazy scenarios to worry about" This why T-pump and his delusional MAGAturds are such a danger to this country. They will accept nothing to the left of themselves. This is not how the left views the right. In fact, Nancy Pelosi said, "We need a strong Republican Party." Those were her exact words. You'll never hear T-pump and MAGAturds saying such things be it's their way or the highway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,564 Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, weepaws said: Thanks to you mr civil war commander we can all sleep comfortably at night. Coward. I think your sarcasm meter is broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,905 Posted June 19, 2023 3 hours ago, seafoam1 said: We need to spend trillions on Ukraine and open the borders wider. I thought of you or rather your screen name. Is your name seafoam because of Native American’s European man’s origin story? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,905 Posted June 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said: Cliff Notes This post is way too long. Even my own posts are too long. It’s a good post but like, it’s just too much, edit it down or summarize it, please. Obama has no power, why are we still talking about him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,905 Posted June 19, 2023 6 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: we can play this 100% the opposite as well you know like unarmed blacks are hunted down and killed by cops white supremacy is the biggest terrorist threat trans people are being genocided blah blah But this is also true and why I know it’s some B.S. They’re saying one thing to conservatives and another to liberals. Not to mention the consistent brainwashing of the youth, especially black kids. It’s awful. I’m trying not to be an old out of touch person but it seems we’re still pushing the narrative that black men are just violent walking pen-is-es and black women are angry slutty single mothers. I just have to turn off the news and listen to the music without drawing conclusions and making generalizations. When I look at my friends and family and work colleagues, everyone is kind, law abiding, going to church, getting married, being helpful, moderately liberal or sensibly conservative. I just need everyone to calm down and look around you in real life not what you’re being fed through social media and the slanted fake news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,893 Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, peenie said: But this is also true and why I know it’s some B.S. They’re saying one thing to conservatives and another to liberals. Not to mention the consistent brainwashing of the youth, especially black kids. It’s awful. I’m trying not to be an old out of touch person but it seems we’re still pushing the narrative that black men are just violent walking pen-is-es and black women are angry slutty single mothers. I just have to turn off the news and listen to the music without drawing conclusions and making generalizations. When I look at my friends and family and work colleagues, everyone is kind, law abiding, going to church, getting married, being helpful, moderately liberal or sensibly conservative. I just need everyone to calm down and look around you in real life not what you’re being fed through social media and the slanted fake news. Agreed. We all need to realize we are on the same team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted June 20, 2023 3 hours ago, peenie said: I thought of you or rather your screen name. Is your name seafoam because of Native American’s European man’s origin story? There are no "native Americans". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237 Posted June 20, 2023 2 hours ago, peenie said: But this is also true and why I know it’s some B.S. They’re saying one thing to conservatives and another to liberals. Not to mention the consistent brainwashing of the youth, especially black kids. It’s awful. I’m trying not to be an old out of touch person but it seems we’re still pushing the narrative that black men are just violent walking pen-is-es and black women are angry slutty single mothers. I just have to turn off the news and listen to the music without drawing conclusions and making generalizations. When I look at my friends and family and work colleagues, everyone is kind, law abiding, going to church, getting married, being helpful, moderately liberal or sensibly conservative. I just need everyone to calm down and look around you in real life not what you’re being fed through social media and the slanted fake news. every black person I know is the same, because they are all family people and actually conservative Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237 Posted June 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: There are no "native Americans". im a native american Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted June 20, 2023 10 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: im a native american Native American AND a pirate???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted June 20, 2023 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: im a native american Ahhh.... You were spawn here. Got it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted June 20, 2023 I agree. Bread and circuses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted June 20, 2023 I am convinced the Peenie account is not actually peenie, have been suspicious for some time now, but I think I am certain of it now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,486 Posted June 20, 2023 46 minutes ago, RLLD said: I am convinced the Peenie account is not actually peenie, have been suspicious for some time now, but I think I am certain of it now. Jerry and I have been saying that for years and years now. Too many simps here so the theory never gains traction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted June 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Ultra Max Power said: I agree. Bread and circuses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,905 Posted June 21, 2023 The seafoam story I heard was during colonialism, that an American Native American tribe (can’t recall which one) believed that the natives of all the different lands are brown because they come from the earth but the white man does not come from the earth they come from the sea, they are born from the sea foam. They have no land of their own. This is why they go from place to place searching for a home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted June 21, 2023 On 6/19/2023 at 12:15 PM, The Real timschochet said: We need a real debate about where to go from here. Conservatives have some good ideas. Liberals have some good ideas: independents have some good ideas. We all want what’s best for the country, so we should discuss it. But I don’t know about you guys, but what I DON’T want to discuss any longer, if I can help it, is indictments and classified documents and the 2020 election and lawsuits, etc. etc. it’s exhausting and has nothing to do with the problems we face. So can we please please move on from Donald Trump? The debating period has come and gone. The Left has gone completely insane and it’s not going to get any better. How can you debate with people who support unrestricted abortions right up until the moment of birth? Time for a divorce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites