BirdGang 385 Posted July 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Who has owned me? Who has even offered a coherent argument that I am wrong? All I’m seeing is stuff like “man you’re stupid” from the usual morons. In any comparison between Biden and Trump, Biden is the alpha. Biden stood up to Putin. Biden got legislation passed that Trump wanted like infrastructure, because he’s not incompetent, he’s knows how or get things done. Trump torched the economy; Biden saved it. Trump cost us thousands of lives, Biden has saved thousands of lives. World leaders look up to Biden and respect him; they laugh at Trump. These are all facts. The evidence is overwhelming. I’m sorry most of you live in a fantasy world of your own making but hopefully you’ll wake up before it’s too late for you. Man you look foolish. Your party is a joke. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted July 17, 2024 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Biden is the alpha the guy shitz his pants at the drop of a hat. Fun fact , you can’t be in the grips of dementia and be an alpha 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,543 Posted July 17, 2024 3 hours ago, NEWPOSTERGUY! said: Q) Who gonna go see Tenacious D on tour? A) N.O.B.O.D.Y!!! Tour canceled 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted July 17, 2024 41 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Unify with these people? Nah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 241 Posted July 17, 2024 31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Who has owned me? Who has even offered a coherent argument that I am wrong? All I’m seeing is stuff like “man you’re stupid” from the usual morons. In any comparison between Biden and Trump, Biden is the alpha. Biden stood up to Putin. Biden got legislation passed that Trump wanted like infrastructure, because he’s not incompetent, he’s knows how or get things done. Trump torched the economy; Biden saved it. Trump cost us thousands of lives, Biden has saved thousands of lives. World leaders look up to Biden and respect him; they laugh at Trump. These are all facts. The evidence is overwhelming. I’m sorry most of you live in a fantasy world of your own making but hopefully you’ll wake up before it’s too late for you. None of those are facts other than the infrastructure bill. The rest are all lies and why we are laughing at you. The exact opposite is true. If you are not trolling then it is you who lives in a fantasy world. Wake up! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted July 17, 2024 On 7/14/2024 at 5:06 PM, OldMaid said: Anyone who refers to another man as an Alpha male needs to evaluate their life choices. When a 77 year old guy gets up after being shot and raises his fist, he sure as Fock ain’t a beta. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted July 17, 2024 12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: When a 77 year old guy gets up after being shot and raises his fist, he sure as Fock ain’t a beta. He is though. He’s demonstrated it all throughout his life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted July 17, 2024 13 minutes ago, Beaker15 said: None of those are facts other than the infrastructure bill. The rest are all lies and why we are laughing at you. The exact opposite is true. If you are not trolling then it is you who lives in a fantasy world. Wake up! The people that laugh at me over this should be embarrassed. Someday, I predict you will be. “Grandpa did you vote for that Donald Trump dude?” “Uhhh who? I don’t remember.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,989 Posted July 17, 2024 ANOTHER CRAZY VIOLENT LIBERAL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted July 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said: ANOTHER CRAZY VIOLENT LIBERAL It was probably that idiot Kyle Rittenhouse again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted July 17, 2024 4 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: Good then stick with that and stop saying the pandering MAGA positions then....unless you actually believe them- then just admit what you are can you show me one position I have that is pandering to MAGA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted July 17, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Who has owned me? Who has even offered a coherent argument that I am wrong? All I’m seeing is stuff like “man you’re stupid” from the usual morons. In any comparison between Biden and Trump, Biden is the alpha. Biden stood up to Putin. Biden got legislation passed that Trump wanted like infrastructure, because he’s not incompetent, he’s knows how or get things done. Trump torched the economy; Biden saved it. Trump cost us thousands of lives, Biden has saved thousands of lives. World leaders look up to Biden and respect him; they laugh at Trump. These are all facts. The evidence is overwhelming. I’m sorry most of you live in a fantasy world of your own making but hopefully you’ll wake up before it’s too late for you. Too bad that the infrastructure did not prioritize reinforcing damns in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and now Illinois. That said, it is a big country with lots of infrastructure in need of maintenance and repair. Tough to get to it all at once. Still, maybe maintenance and repair should have preceeded installation of a handful of charging stations. Me, as for the economy, well inflation was crushing but is subsiding and the markets have me happy, at least for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,989 Posted July 17, 2024 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It was probably that idiot Kyle Rittenhouse again. Sorry, it was another violent Liberal. Those Pedocrats love violence don't they They won't be happy till there's a Civil War Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted July 17, 2024 Just want to point out that the government, once again, has lied to the American people about this incident, like they have been doing my whole life about every major event. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 17, 2024 5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Biden had to be helped up when he fell off his bike. Trump got shot and raised his fist in defiance. And by the way, the raised fist belongs to us now. My God. It was his focking ear. If it happened to a democrat you’d be calling them a poosay for making a big deal out of it. You play the tough guy all the time, treat Trump the same way. You know it’s not a serious wound, you’re not that dumb. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted July 17, 2024 I saw trump on the news still sporting his obvious bandage. I spoke to a doctor friend of mine who posits that Trumps wound likely recieved two to three stiches and could be covered with your basic band aid brand bandage. I think he is overplaying this a bit. A close call, certainly. A serious wound, not from the visual evidence. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted July 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: My God. It was his focking ear. If it happened to a democrat you’d be calling them a poosay for making a big deal out of it. You play the tough guy all the time, treat Trump the same way. You know it’s not a serious wound, you’re not that dumb. Damn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 17, 2024 5 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: My Jr. High School had a two week hunters safety and firearms safety course over the Christmas break. 10 days, two hours a day including live firing of .22 calibers and 20 gauges. If you passed you were certified to hunt at 14 without adult supervision. They also had a rifle team. I was taught much earlier by my Grandfather and Father. Still, no competency training like the military where you can burn through a lot of rounds. Practice makes perfect. I wish they still did things like that. I took hunter safety course when was 14 I think. I had already been shooting guns and hunting for years though. It doesn’t seem as common as it use to. I think survival courses would be nice to have as well. People should know how to be self sufficient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted July 17, 2024 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: I wish they still did things like that. I took hunter safety course when was 14 I think. I had already been shooting guns and hunting for years though. It doesn’t seem as common as it use to. I think survival courses would be nice to have as well. People should know how to be self sufficient. Kids use to get some of that in Scouting. No more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 17, 2024 4 hours ago, NEWPOSTERGUY! said: Q) Who gonna go see Tenacious D on tour? A) N.O.B.O.D.Y!!! I would. Those guys are great. I met Kyle Gass once. Saw his other band, Train Wreck, when in Cincinnati. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Kids use to get some of that in Scouting. No more. I know, it’s a shame. I was always a fan of Scouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,876 Posted July 17, 2024 11 hours ago, RLLD said: Given that those circumstances are mutually exclusive to what I am asserting, I am disinclined to chase the red herring. Perhaps you have some gem to show us about the Lincoln assignation too? To confirm, you didn’t have a problem with Biden’s “bullseye” comment, correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 17, 2024 Remember when Holyfield got a chunk of his ear bitten off by Tyson? What a hero. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted July 17, 2024 1 hour ago, BirdGang said: Man you look foolish. Your party is a joke. 1 hour ago, HellToupee said: the guy shitz his pants at the drop of a hat. Fun fact , you can’t be in the grips of dementia and be an alpha Even a vacant-eyed drooling guy, who wears a loaded diaper, and is slowly led around everywhere by clutching his wife's hand has significantly more testosterone than the average Democrat, simply because he retains the ability to figure out what a woman is by sniffing her hair. You have to grade on a curve. This qualifies as an Alpha among male Democrats. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted July 17, 2024 34 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: My God. It was his focking ear. If it happened to a democrat you’d be calling them a poosay for making a big deal out of it. You play the tough guy all the time, treat Trump the same way. You know it’s not a serious wound, you’re not that dumb. This from the guy that wore two masks like Fauci told him to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,368 Posted July 17, 2024 2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: My God. It was his focking ear. If it happened to a democrat you’d be calling them a poosay for making a big deal out of it. You play the tough guy all the time, treat Trump the same way. You know it’s not a serious wound, you’re not that dumb. Oh, so do you have experience of someone attempting to kill you by putting a bullet in your head but it just grazed you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,368 Posted July 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: Remember when Holyfield got a chunk of his ear bitten off by Tyson? What a hero. Now do Nancy Kerrigan. She cried like a baby and was overly dramatic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,580 Posted July 17, 2024 7 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: I saw trump on the news still sporting his obvious bandage. I spoke to a doctor friend of mine who posits that Trumps wound likely recieved two to three stiches and could be covered with your basic band aid brand bandage. I think he is overplaying this a bit. A close call, certainly. A serious wound, not from the visual evidence. No offense, but your dr friend has no clue about the wound. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted July 17, 2024 7 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: I saw trump on the news still sporting his obvious bandage. I spoke to a doctor friend of mine who posits that Trumps wound likely recieved two to three stiches and could be covered with your basic band aid brand bandage. I think he is overplaying this a bit. A close call, certainly. A serious wound, not from the visual evidence. Yeah it's clearly for theater and looks really stupid. When other people started wearing a lip pillow on their ears at the convention yesterday, I knew it was all a joke. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted July 17, 2024 Dude almost died and is only alive because he just happened to move his head at the right time, who knows, maybe by the grace of God. Here, we have people actually complaining about the bandage he's wearing. Some of you really need some self reflection, or, maybe you're simply just straight up garbage human beings. I'm not sure but, this ain't it. This ain't it fellas. Take a step back, forget about your politics for a second, try to be a human being. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted July 17, 2024 8 hours ago, Beaker15 said: None of those are facts other than the infrastructure bill. The rest are all lies and why we are laughing at you. The exact opposite is true. If you are not trolling then it is you who lives in a fantasy world. Wake up! Infrastructure Bill was a joke. Just lining pockets of political insiders with no tangible accomplishments. How many charging stations built so far? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted July 17, 2024 11 minutes ago, Reality said: Dude almost died and is only alive because he just happened to move his head at the right time, who knows, maybe by the grace of God. Here, we have people actually complaining about the bandage he's wearing. Some of you really need some self reflection, or, maybe you're simply just straight up garbage human beings. I'm not sure but, this ain't it. This ain't it fellas. Take a step back, forget about your politics for a second, try to be a human being. They spent four days trying to blame republicans for someone shooting Trump. Yet they covered their ears when a tranny murdered six kids at school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted July 17, 2024 8 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: can you show me one position I have that is pandering to MAGA I've done this already multiple times on this board. Stop playing dumb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,281 Posted July 17, 2024 14 hours ago, GutterBoy said: It's really odd. Trump runs around saying Russia Russia Russia and people think that means he had nothing to do with Russia. It's proven fact that Russia interfered with the 2016 election in order to get Trump elected. And his campaign did coordinate with them. Paul Manafort admits he passed Trump campaign data to a suspected Russian asset but it's a hoax, nothing to see here at all. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted July 17, 2024 30 minutes ago, Reality said: Dude almost died and is only alive because he just happened to move his head at the right time, who knows, maybe by the grace of God. Here, we have people actually complaining about the bandage he's wearing. Some of you really need some self reflection, or, maybe you're simply just straight up garbage human beings. I'm not sure but, this ain't it. This ain't it fellas. Take a step back, forget about your politics for a second, try to be a human being. Keyboard Warriors ripping on Trump’s bandage. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 228 Posted July 17, 2024 8 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Just want to point out that the government, once again, has lied to the American people about this incident, like they have been doing my whole life about every major event. this has all the markings of an inside job. head of S. service says consideration has to be taken regarding rooftops in the safety of agents somehow excusing why nobody was guarding the roof. Of course this is true but in this case it is complete bull. Pitch of the roof the shooter is on is about a 2/12, which is as close to flat as can be. Also ANY reasonable person looking at the surroundings will conclude the shooters roof is the most likely place for an assassination. 130 yards away! disturbing in all ways. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,281 Posted July 17, 2024 13 hours ago, Voltaire said: Did you not notice how money flooded into NATO from slacker nations because if Trump or did you know that but fail to mention it on purpose? That would be hardly none, because that's not how NATO works. Trump has long claimed that various NATO members have failed to pay their “bills,” “dues” or “NATO fees,” that they “owe us a tremendous amount of money” or that they “owe NATO billions of dollars.” Facts First: All of these Trump claims are false. While a majority of NATO members do not meet the alliance’s target of each member spending a minimum of 2% of gross domestic product on defense, the 2% target is a “guideline” that does not create bills, debts or legal obligations if it is not met. In fact, the guideline doesn’t require payments to NATO or the US at all. Rather, it simply requires each country to spend on their own defense programs. When Trump was president, the guideline was written in forgiving language that made clear that it was not a firm commitment. That version of the guideline, created at a NATO summit in Wales in 2014, said members that had yet to reach 2% would “aim to move towards the 2% guideline within a decade with a view to meeting their NATO Capability Targets and filling NATO’s capability shortfalls.” In other words, the members that were below 2% in 2014 didn’t even have to promise to hit the target by 2024 – simply to make an effort to do so by then. NATO does require members to make direct contributions to fund the organization’s own operations. But there is no sign that members have failed to make those contributions, which constitute a tiny fraction of the allies’ defense spending, and Trump has made clear that his talk of debts is about the 2% guideline. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted July 17, 2024 I was out most of the day yesterday so I may have missed this in the thread- so apologies if it has already been mentioned. Morning Joe yesterday had on a former Secret Service member and a reporter who worked with the Secret Service in the White House at one point (like an embedded type series). They were talking about some of the stuff as it related to the shooting on Saturday. 1.) The Secret Service was working with the local police force to help lock down some areas (common practice apparently). 2.) The building the kid was on had local cops inside the building as a means of securing the building. They did include the building in their security plans but because it was 150 yards outside the venue they felt it clear. 3.) Additionally, the building had a sloped roof and it was determined that it would not be safe and/or feasible to have a person stationed on it- both from a standing practice and from a strategic vantage point. So the communication with the local cops led to the building having a police presence inside but not on top. (Again mentioned as not uncommon practice from them) 4.) Joe then did question the training of the Secret Service members as after Trump was shot there was communication that the shooter was down but that there still could have been a second or third shooter stationed somewhere and thus leaving Trump's head exposed for like 10 seconds was highly dangerous, not the mention letting him be exposed en route to the car (when you look at the video and pictures you can see that Trump's head for a lot of the time is above the Secret Service members heads. 5.) The former Secret Service guy discussed that the mission of the SS is to essentially manhandle the person they are protecting to physically make them keep their head down and stay hidden as best they can. He is unsure if the guys were trained on that correctly or if they defer to Trump too much (he did mention as you are around these people constantly you can get chummy with them and sometimes to a detriment). It was a fascinating 10-15 minute segment on the show to hear. Also, I saw on Mediaite a clip from CNN where they put together an interesting video that syncs up the video of the Trump shooting with the footage from social media and outlines the one minute and 57 seconds that occurred from the time the crowd first noticed the gunman to the shooting. https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-shows-stunning-side-by-side-video-of-how-trump-shooting-unfolded-combining-news-footage-with-eyewitness-accounts/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted July 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: That would be hardly none, because that's not how NATO works. Trump has long claimed that various NATO members have failed to pay their “bills,” “dues” or “NATO fees,” that they “owe us a tremendous amount of money” or that they “owe NATO billions of dollars.” Facts First: All of these Trump claims are false. While a majority of NATO members do not meet the alliance’s target of each member spending a minimum of 2% of gross domestic product on defense, the 2% target is a “guideline” that does not create bills, debts or legal obligations if it is not met. In fact, the guideline doesn’t require payments to NATO or the US at all. Rather, it simply requires each country to spend on their own defense programs. When Trump was president, the guideline was written in forgiving language that made clear that it was not a firm commitment. That version of the guideline, created at a NATO summit in Wales in 2014, said members that had yet to reach 2% would “aim to move towards the 2% guideline within a decade with a view to meeting their NATO Capability Targets and filling NATO’s capability shortfalls.” In other words, the members that were below 2% in 2014 didn’t even have to promise to hit the target by 2024 – simply to make an effort to do so by then. NATO does require members to make direct contributions to fund the organization’s own operations. But there is no sign that members have failed to make those contributions, which constitute a tiny fraction of the allies’ defense spending, and Trump has made clear that his talk of debts is about the 2% guideline. Trump is allowed to lie and people shouldn't call him on it. This is what happens when you rip at institutions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted July 17, 2024 It was already covered obviously, but, FYI on the "sloped roof". https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1813265108958687589?s=19 Also, the roof where the snipers were posted. https://x.com/johncardillo/status/1813286776804442617?s=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites