edjr 5,587 Posted April 14, 2017 his lawyer Jose Baez has still never lost a 1st or 2nd degree murder trial still in prison for another murder. what was the point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,597 Posted April 14, 2017 This was not the main trial though? It was for the 2 random people he killed first? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted April 14, 2017 Soooooo......fantasy impact? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,608 Posted April 14, 2017 Soooooo......fantasy impact? 5th rounder, could be gold when Gronk goes on DL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,587 Posted April 14, 2017 This was not the main trial though? It was for the 2 random people he killed first? He has already been found guilty of killing Odin Lloyd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 928 Posted April 14, 2017 Focker is in prison for life no matter what. Waste of time and money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,732 Posted April 14, 2017 And Pats fans were engorged because Eli may have passed off a used jockstrap as game worn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted April 14, 2017 Didn't he kill Odin because he was concerned Odin would dime him out for these murders? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,587 Posted April 14, 2017 Didn't he kill Odin because he was concerned Odin would dime him out for these murders? That was the theory. OOPS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,552 Posted April 14, 2017 He must be psyched Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,597 Posted April 14, 2017 That was the theory. OOPS You do not think he is innocent though? He killed them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,000 Posted April 14, 2017 Yeah, and O.J. didn't kill Nicole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 14, 2017 At least he dodged that tricky second life sentence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,587 Posted April 14, 2017 You do not think he is innocent though? He killed them. Were you there? I wasn't. I don't know what happened. I don't care either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,587 Posted April 14, 2017 At least he dodged that tricky second life sentence. why did they even try to charge him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted April 14, 2017 Has he converted to wide receiver yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted April 14, 2017 Didn't he kill Odin because he was concerned Odin would dime him out for these murders? The plan kinda worked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted April 14, 2017 What a pointless waste of time. So now he only has to serve 1 life sentence without parole, what a score! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,131 Posted April 14, 2017 So is Jose Baez the GOAT of lawyers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,000 Posted April 14, 2017 Were you there? I wasn't. I don't know what happened. I don't care either way. The one eyed witness was there. I'm pretty sure he didn't take out his own eye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,000 Posted April 14, 2017 So is Jose Baez the GOAT of lawyers? Did he coin the catchprase "If it doesn't fit you must acquit" or the Chewbacca defense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 14, 2017 I saw a picture of his expression when the judge said not guilty. All happy looking for someone to hug. lol Uhhh, Aaron, you're still going to be doing the life sentence you were found guilty of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,587 Posted April 14, 2017 So is Jose Baez the Bill Belichick of lawyers? mmhmmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 470 Posted April 14, 2017 I see some people don't understand that the victims' family seek closure. With Hernandez getting labeled innocent, there's a possibility that a killer is still loose. There's also the possibility that if he had been convicted, he could have faced the death penalty due to the murders being in different counties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,287 Posted April 14, 2017 Why didn't this Baez guy defend him the first time around? Saw the writing on the wall and didn't want to put his streak on the line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 360 Posted April 14, 2017 Has he converted to wide receiver yet? Well played Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 822 Posted April 14, 2017 I see some people don't understand that the victims' family seek closure. With Hernandez getting labeled innocent, there's a possibility that a killer is still loose. There's also the possibility that if he had been convicted, he could have faced the death penalty due to the murders being in different counties. I was thinking the same thing about victims' families seeking closure, but hadn't considered the possible death penalty. I spose some of them might have wanted that, but just getting confirmation/recognition Hernandez killed their loved one was probably the main goal. Oddly though, the way it turned out Hernandez walked out of court with a big smile and the families are devastated. So not only was it a waste of money, it did more harm than good. Interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted April 14, 2017 Is he letting Hernandez work his legal fees off in ass too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,131 Posted April 14, 2017 why did they even try to charge him If that was you're son/daughter that had been murder and they told you "Hey, don't worry we already got him on a life sentence for another guy, so we aren't even going to waste the money on you're son's murder. Cool?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,732 Posted April 14, 2017 Convictions get over turned. That's the main reason you try him for all his crimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,216 Posted April 15, 2017 If that was you're son/daughter that had been murder and they told you "Hey, don't worry we already got him on a life sentence for another guy, so we aren't even going to waste the money on you're son's murder. Cool?" Hard to say, but if I knew that they got him for killing Odin for fear he was going to rat Hernandez out on the murder of my kid, I might find that closure enough. Convictions get over turned. That's the main reason you try him for all his crimes. There is no statute of limitation on murder, so you can always try the person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,732 Posted April 15, 2017 Hard to say, but if I knew that they got him for killing Odin for fear he was going to rat Hernandez out on the murder of my kid, I might find that closure enough. There is no statute of limitation on murder, so you can always try the person. You want fresh witnesses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,216 Posted April 15, 2017 You want fresh witnesses. Valid point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted April 15, 2017 You want fresh witnesses. Yeah. It can get hard to find random hood rats to testify years down the line. And in organized crime cases like this one, those people often vanish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,652 Posted April 15, 2017 Focker is in prison for life no matter what. Waste of time and money Ya know, that's easy for us sitting here at our Commode 64's to sniff at, but not for all. If you loved the person that got killed, it's much harder to be aloof and pragmatic about their deaths - and their killers. Some people talk about 'justice', I'd say more like Accountability and Closure. You want the person who killed your loved one to be stood up and held guilty - and accountable. It's hard to understand if you haven't been through it. It's a lot like skipping the funeral - because "who cares? he's dead!" Yeah, but for some reason, the closure matters. More so in the case of sudden murder. A friend of mine was murdered - gunned down in his own garage - on May 8, 2015. Murderer never caught - but suspected. About a year later, some 'Life That Matters' was gunned down in an armored car robbery. The Feebs 'attributed' Joe's death to this guy. But who the fock knows? Sure a GD convenient way to clear your 'open cases' listing to assign something to the dead bad guy. Family and Friends will never really know for sure. Nah, knowing 'fer sure' ain't gonna bring him back. Still, it matters. In this case, yeah, pragmatically, you're right. That POS will likely never see the light of day. But it's a whole different calculus when it's someone you love. It just is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,180 Posted April 19, 2017 Has he converted to wide receiver yet? He hung on to the very end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Elistan 106 Posted April 19, 2017 He hung on to the very end. I still say he has a high ceiling next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted April 19, 2017 In the Commonwealth, he is no longer a convicted murderer because his appeals were pending upon death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted April 19, 2017 In the Commonwealth, he is no longer a convicted murderer because his appeals were pending upon death. No kidding? Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted April 19, 2017 No kidding? Wow. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/19/under-massachusetts-aaron-hernandez-suicide-voids-murder-conviction/ Aaron Hernandez was found dead in his prison cell on Wednesday morning after hanging himself using bedsheets and, under Massachusetts law, that means the murder conviction that sent him to prison in the first place has been voided. Hernandez was still in the process of appealing his 2014 conviction of murdering Odin Lloyd, which means a legal principle dating back to English common law called “abatement ab initio” applies to his case. “Ab initio” translates to “from the beginning” and chief legal counsel to the Massachusetts Bar Association Michael Healy told the Boston Globe that the principle reverts a case to its start if the convicted party dies before the appeals process has concluded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites