shotsup 832 Posted January 11, 2019 Took family and friends out for my sons birthday last night. Was paying with my debit card and the waiter (who I never seen before and I go there frequently since they opened in 1999) Anyway he whispers to me if I can pay any part of the tip in cash so its less that he has to share with the help !!! I told him to Fock off - there is 4 waiters and waitress and one bartender at this table and you just lost 5% of the tip I was going to give you. (I lied I still tipped 20%) Next time I am there should I tell the owner or manager ??? He is a scumbag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 11, 2019 You can rat him if you want, but I am sure the manager already knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,418 Posted January 11, 2019 Sharing tips is stupid. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted January 11, 2019 Sharing tips is stupid. The two helpers did more then the waiter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,813 Posted January 11, 2019 How drunk on and scale of 1- shotsup were you? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,748 Posted January 11, 2019 I always tip in cash. That way they can claim less on their taxes. When the busboy does more work than the waiter/waitress I make sure to tip him directly. Sounds like you should do the same the next time you're there and do it in front this asshat. Make sure he knows you tipped the others more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted January 11, 2019 How drunk on and scale of 1- shotsup were you? It was at night so I'm thinking the high end of the scale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,931 Posted January 11, 2019 No. Why do you care? He will get figured out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted January 11, 2019 Bartenders normally look at the waiters sales for the night and if this guy keeps coming in saying he only made 10% every night, that won't wash. They are all in the business, they will know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,816 Posted January 11, 2019 This definitely falls under not my problem. Let it go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,134 Posted January 11, 2019 And you called me whiny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted January 11, 2019 No. Why do you care? He will get figured out.Says the biggest rat on FFT. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,908 Posted January 11, 2019 I wouldn't say anything to the owner/manager, but I'd probably tell the kid to shut up and appreciate whatever he gets. If he doesn't like sharing his tips, he can find another job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,931 Posted January 11, 2019 Says the biggest rat on FFT. 12th Man would have roundhouse kicked this punk in his imagination. In real life hed tip the waiter 40% and blow him in the john. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted January 11, 2019 Nah let it be. Respect a mans hustle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted January 11, 2019 How drunk on and scale of 1- shotsup were you? It was a family gathering. 2 drinks and 2 shots at the bar (bartenders idea not mine). But then - invited to a post holiday party at local Biergarten from a ligour company. Drinking with a bunch of liquor salesman takes practice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted January 11, 2019 And you called me whiny. Thats because you are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,308 Posted January 11, 2019 I always tip in cash. That way they can claim less on their taxes. When the busboy does more work than the waiter/waitress I make sure to tip him directly. Sounds like you should do the same the next time you're there and do it in front this asshat. Make sure he knows you tipped the others more. Jesus christ. The superhuman effort so many of you put into every day tasks never ceases to amaze me. I put 20% if the service was good. If not, less. I dont think about the cash impact and I dont go chasing down busboys. I eat my meal, pay and leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,554 Posted January 11, 2019 I don't tip because society says I have to. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,748 Posted January 11, 2019 Jesus christ. The superhuman effort so many of you put into every day tasks never ceases to amaze me. I put 20% if the service was good. If not, less. I dont think about the cash impact and I dont go chasing down busboys. I eat my meal, pay and leave. It's not a big deal. I'm just a better person than you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 11, 2019 He should have punched you in the box Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,039 Posted January 11, 2019 It's not a big deal. I'm just a better person than you. In what way? Helping people break the law? Yeah, great job sport. Seriously, I do exactly what SM does. It's not my place to try to figure out who deserves what. The restaurant can sort all that out. Personally, I wish we had more of a model like Australia does where tipping is not expected because they pay their people more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted January 11, 2019 Jesus christ. The superhuman effort so many of you put into every day tasks never ceases to amaze me. I put 20% if the service was good. If not, less. I dont think about the cash impact and I dont go chasing down busboys. I eat my meal, pay and leave. Agreed. The thing is, they dont do all that stuff, they just imagine they do in the shower and say it here. Keyboard champions of dogoodery. Mind your own business, eat, pay, leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,265 Posted January 11, 2019 I don't tip because society says I have to. Good for you Mr. Pink. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,265 Posted January 11, 2019 In what way? Helping people break the law? Yeah, great job sport. Seriously, I do exactly what SM does. It's not my place to try to figure out who deserves what. The restaurant can sort all that out. Personally, I wish we had more of a model like Australia does where tipping is not expected because they pay their people more. Agreed. The restaurant has figured out how to distribute tips, from the behind-the-scenes bartenders making drinks for tables, to dishwashers, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,748 Posted January 11, 2019 In what way? Helping people break the law? Yeah, great job sport. Seriously, I do exactly what SM does. It's not my place to try to figure out who deserves what. The restaurant can sort all that out. Personally, I wish we had more of a model like Australia does where tipping is not expected because they pay their people more. It was a joke Suzie serious. What they do with their money is their business. I don't give a sh!t if they claim every dime on their taxes or not. Most wait staff make minimum wage. They live off of tips. A lot of dooshbags under tip or don't tip at all. I over tip for good service. It helps ensure I get good service the next time I patronize the establishment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted January 11, 2019 Agreed. The restaurant has figured out how to distribute tips, from the behind-the-scenes bartenders making drinks for tables, to dishwashers, etc. And this greedy rat was trying to screw his coworkers over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted January 11, 2019 And this greedy rat was trying to screw his coworkers over Gotta look out for numero uno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,265 Posted January 11, 2019 And this greedy rat was trying to screw his coworkers over Yeah, I didn't address your point. If it is a place you've gone to for 20-ish years and feel that you know the management, owner, and other staff, I would definitely say something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted January 11, 2019 The whole concept of tipping servers is stupid. He exerts the same effort serving me steak and lobster as he does a salad, but the surf and turf is more expensive, so he gets a bigger tip. And what if I order a $100 bottle of wine vs a $30 bottle? Same effort for him, but I have to tip more because the wine itself is more expensive. Dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,554 Posted January 11, 2019 Good for you Mr. Pink. Alright, I mean I'll tip if somebody really deserves a tip. If they put forth the effort, I'll give them something extra. But I mean, this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted January 11, 2019 Don't tell the manager. Tell the dishwasher, he's got nothing to loose and will take care of the problem himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,908 Posted January 11, 2019 The whole concept of tipping servers is stupid. He exerts the same effort serving me steak and lobster as he does a salad, but the surf and turf is more expensive, so he gets a bigger tip. And what if I order a $100 bottle of wine vs a $30 bottle? Same effort for him, but I have to tip more because the wine itself is more expensive. Dumb. This is why you buy your bottle of wine directly from the bartender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted January 11, 2019 12th Man would have roundhouse kicked this punk in his imagination. In real life hed tip the waiter 40% and blow him in the john. Ew those bathrooms are so dirty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,308 Posted January 11, 2019 The whole concept of tipping servers is stupid. He exerts the same effort serving me steak and lobster as he does a salad, but the surf and turf is more expensive, so he gets a bigger tip. And what if I order a $100 bottle of wine vs a $30 bottle? Same effort for him, but I have to tip more because the wine itself is more expensive. Dumb. Well when you think about it the whole concept is dumb. Why not just push the food through a hole and notify you when it's your turn to get your food. And who the fock needs a hostess? I can totally tell when a table is empty. Dumb dumb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted January 11, 2019 Well when you think about it the whole concept is dumb. Why not just push the food through a hole and notify you when it's your turn to get your food. And who the fock needs a hostess? I can totally tell when a table is empty. Dumb dumb For real. I’m happy to walk up and grab my own plate. I don’t need a hostess, I can right focking there is an open table and you weren’t taking reservations so why the fock have I been standing here for 10 min? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the s is ilent 69 Posted January 12, 2019 The whole process of sharing gratuities is to protect waiters that get stuck with the segment of society that refuses to tip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted January 12, 2019 This is why you buy your bottle of wine directly from the bartender. Who the hell does that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted January 12, 2019 Well when you think about it the whole concept is dumb. Why not just push the food through a hole and notify you when it's your turn to get your food. And who the fock needs a hostess? I can totally tell when a table is empty. Dumb dumb Even dumber is the fact that this whole tipping game has elevated a waiters earning potential to a point that its better than some professions that actually require skill or knowledge. Waiting tables is not a career. Its just a paycheck for those on their way to something bigger and better. If its your primary source of income beyond the age of 30, youre a loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted January 12, 2019 The whole tipping thing is a sham. A business owner should not be allowed to force his customers to pay his employees wages. The minimum wage in Michigan for tipped employees is 3.52 an hour. WTF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites