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[kutulu 1,680]

Lost Episode: Ab Aeterno (NEW)

 

Richard must make a difficult decision.

 

Tuesday 3-23-2010 9:00 - 10:06 PM ABC

 

Ab aeterno (Latin)-

From the beginning of time.

[CantTouchThis 23]

http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php?a...1895&ref=nf

 

In case any of you doubt the fact this is going to be the biggest mythology episode ever. Pic of Nemesis in his original form with old school Jacob. We should all be excited, seriously can't wait.

[tikigods 76]

http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php?a...1895&ref=nf

 

In case any of you doubt the fact this is going to be the biggest mythology episode ever. Pic of Nemesis in his original form with old school Jacob. We should all be excited, seriously can't wait.

 

Cain and Abel?

[King of Gondor 0]

Cain and Abel?

 

Siegfried & Roy?

[kutulu 1,680]

Siegfried & Roy?

 

phillybear and lackman?

[Lackman 0]

I have to admit, I am looking forward to this episode, especially after the run of bad episodes lately. Beginning with the What Kate Does episode, the only good ones have been the Sundown (Sayid) and The Substitue (Locke) episode. The ones centered on Kate, Jack, Ben, Sawyer. Fail, fail, fail, fail. This is a crucial episode to determine whether Season 6 can be salvaged.

 

I might even watch this sober.

[The Moz 69]

the best episode will be "across the sea " -- this is the episode right before the finale. no regulars but everything ( mostly ) answered. They want to answer the questions right before the finale so the finale can be focused more on the characters than revelations.

 

this episode could have potential - though i am disapointed Richard isn't older

[The Moz 69]

I have to admit, I am looking forward to this episode, especially after the run of bad episodes lately. Beginning with the What Kate Does episode, the only good ones have been the Sundown (Sayid) and The Substitue (Locke) episode. The ones centered on Kate, Jack, Ben, Sawyer. Fail, fail, fail, fail. This is a crucial episode to determine whether Season 6 can be salvaged.

 

I might even watch this sober.

 

 

I actually like Jack this season

 

My favorite is MIB so far though

[OakHeadFootball 1]

http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php?a...1895&ref=nf

 

In case any of you doubt the fact this is going to be the biggest mythology episode ever. Pic of Nemesis in his original form with old school Jacob. We should all be excited, seriously can't wait.

 

Definitely looks like the dagger Sayid stabbed Locke with. The length is the same and the pommel is square on both.

[kutulu 1,680]

Finally gonna get an answer about that glass eyeball found at the Arrow Station.

[RicemanX 20]

WHO DROPPED THE FOOD IN SEASON 2?!?!

[tikigods 76]

I have to admit, I am looking forward to this episode, especially after the run of bad episodes lately. Beginning with the What Kate Does episode, the only good ones have been the Sundown (Sayid) and The Substitue (Locke) episode. The ones centered on Kate, Jack, Ben, Sawyer. Fail, fail, fail, fail. This is a crucial episode to determine whether Season 6 can be salvaged.

 

I might even watch this sober.

 

I liked the Locke and Ben episodes. You're right...tonight is make or break.

[jvirne 0]

Answers and a sappy backstory to Richard.

 

Less than expected, but it did answer -

 

1. What happened to the statue.

 

2. The origin of the Black Rock

 

3. The origin of Richard

 

4. The nature of the island (sorta): it's a prison, with Jacob serving as its present Warden.

[jvirne 0]

Dear FFTLostFreaks -

 

Why do you think Richard was "able" to kill Jacob?

 

It can't just be the dagger.

 

Also note that Jacob can be a thorough badass if he wants. It makes me suspect that he somewhat wanted to die when Ben killed him.

[Lackman 0]

Overall, an excellent episode.

 

Fock, it connected so many dots of past dialogue, scenes, scenarios, repetition, confirmed plenty of stuff we've been speculating about as the truth, and still kept the MIB and Jacob relationship murky that I don't believe a word that either one says and yet I believe everything. How is that possible?

 

Jacob is still an assh0le and is quickly becoming one of my most despised characters on the show.

[Cdub100 3,928]

though i am disapointed Richard isn't older

 

Me too.

[Lackman 0]

Oh, yeah. For those that don't believe in my Loops Theory.

 

Remember in Season 5 when the Black Rock was approaching the island, being watched by Jacob and MIB? Sure looked like high noon and a beautiful sunny day. Now, tonight, the Black Rock crashes on the island at night in the middle of a semi-hurricane. Explain that.

 

FACE.

[Rybo5 0]

Oh, yeah. For those that don't believe in my Loops Theory.

 

Remember in Season 5 when the Black Rock was approaching the island, being watched by Jacob and MIB? Sure looked like high noon and a beautiful sunny day. Now, tonight, the Black Rock crashes on the island at night in the middle of a semi-hurricane. Explain that.

 

FACE.

 

That's the one thing that kind of annoyed me. However, have we ever gotten official confirmation that the ship in the season 5 finale was the Black Rock? I doubt the Black Rock is the only ship Jacob has ever brought to the island.

[Saint Elistan 106]

FACE.

 

Still not buying it, but knew you'd throw that at us. Just like the writers threw it at you. No way to tell that the Season 5 ship WAS the Black Rock or if Jacob is capable of sudden changes in the weather.

[Voltaire 5,317]

Looking forward to it. the Chinese internet pirate sites are getting faster and better each season.

[kutulu 1,680]

Looking forward to it. the Chinese internet pirate sites are getting faster and better each season.

 

It was good....just one lame scene IMO. I thought the dude who plays Richard did a real good acting job considering...and I liked the use of the subtitles almost throughout.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,449]

Oh, yeah. For those that don't believe in my Loops Theory.

 

Remember in Season 5 when the Black Rock was approaching the island, being watched by Jacob and MIB? Sure looked like high noon and a beautiful sunny day. Now, tonight, the Black Rock crashes on the island at night in the middle of a semi-hurricane. Explain that.

 

FACE.

 

 

i've read every one of your write ups Philly! You got me back into this series. And I thank you for it. I need a few things explained to me that only you can....from what I see out there! You keep up with the story line better than most.

 

1- Richard is granted one of three wishes...so to say. He says, he wants to live forever, and Jacob say's he can give him that and not the other two previous wishes. Makes sense. So Richard can't die, even when The Man In Black is at the helm?

 

2- Jacob said, " I invite all to this island!". Is he the parioshner of all that is? Any and all come to the island because of Jacob? If so, I see a few holes in that statement. If Jacob is the only one to bring in anyone, how is Widmore allowed to arrive? For a second time?

 

3- Jacob says to MIB, "Even if I die, you have to deal with the one! Or any other, if I die." What does that fawking mean? In other words, Richard?

 

4- Locke and Ben are told by Widmore, that if Locke doesn't return to the island the other side will "win".

 

 

Just curious as to what all this sh!t means?

[RicemanX 20]

THANK YOU. Been waiting for an episode like this for 5 f in years

[nobody 2,687]

Dear FFTLostFreaks -

 

Why do you think Richard was "able" to kill Jacob?

 

It can't just be the dagger.

 

Also note that Jacob can be a thorough badass if he wants. It makes me suspect that he somewhat wanted to die when Ben killed him.

 

 

It fits in with my original thinking that anyone can kill Jacob except the mysterious man in black who I assume simply has no name. Maybe that's what he was talking about when he said his mother was crazy. B¡tch wouldn't give him a name. It's pretty clear to me that MiB needs to simply talk someone into killing him. Doesn't seem to matter who.

[Saint Elistan 106]

I don't think MIB/Jacob can survive with out each other. Perhaps they're even the same entity...a metaphor for the struggle between the good and evil in each of us.

 

They're a ying-yang from the fate / free will perspective.

Jacob prides himself on free will. There's always a choice. Yet he keeps the MiB imprisoned, denying him his freedom; leaving him to his fate.

The MiB prides himself on fate. It always ends the same. Yet he can't kill Jacob without convincing someone to do it...getting them to do it of their own free will.

 

It's a very interesting relationship. I have no idea how it connects to the ending of the series unless they actually pursue the hell/purgatory route, but it's such a compelling, mysterious relationship. Despite everything we know about them, we still know nothing about them.

[shotsup 832]

Wow - I thought this episode told us so much but when I stop and think of the entire show and I'm like There is SO MUCH MORE to be told.

Learning as much as we did tonight I cant believe there are still EIGHT episodes left.

I loved the wine bottle/Island beng the cork keeping out helll analogy.

[Vikings4ever 550]

Also note that Jacob can be a thorough badass if he wants. It makes me suspect that he somewhat wanted to die when Ben killed him.

If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.

[nobody 2,687]

That must have been one hell of a storm for an entire ship to get thrown through a statue and land a mile inside the island without any of the foliage being harmed.

[nobody 2,687]

It sounds like Richard showed up on the BlackRock ship. It was a slave ship and Locke said something like, "Good to see you out of chains" or something like that.

 

 

I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't know if the producers would have the audacity to cast a black guy as a slave.

 

 

My interpretation given his comments set against the backdrop of an island that has seen several civilizations over thousands of years visit the island is that Jacob is a champion of mankind and fake locke ain't much of fan. Under this backdrop, I think Jacob brings people to the island in hopes that he can validate his faith in man while fake locke seems to manipulate the group in such a way to prove that man will always resort to our basest intincts. I'm reading Fake Locke's assertion that it "always ends the same" as his take on the track record of the previous inhabitants of the island where they probably always fell into a destructive mode. Jacobs comment about progress might mean that a humnakind's poor track record doesn't leave man irredemable since there is room for growing and learning.

 

I was on fire back in February.

[IAMWood 6]

It's good to see Lackman not so lackluster.

 

Nice episode.

 

[jvirne 0]

Oh, yeah. For those that don't believe in my Loops Theory.

 

Remember in Season 5 when the Black Rock was approaching the island, being watched by Jacob and MIB? Sure looked like high noon and a beautiful sunny day. Now, tonight, the Black Rock crashes on the island at night in the middle of a semi-hurricane. Explain that.

 

FACE.

 

That wasn't the Black Rock. It was a different ship, a much larger ship. I was convinced that was the Black Rock too, but the Black Rock we saw last night was a much smaller vessel.

[Lackman 0]

i've read every one of your write ups Philly! You got me back into this series. And I thank you for it. I need a few things explained to me that only you can....from what I see out there! You keep up with the story line better than most.

 

1- Richard is granted one of three wishes...so to say. He says, he wants to live forever, and Jacob say's he can give him that and not the other two previous wishes. Makes sense. So Richard can't die, even when The Man In Black is at the helm?

 

2- Jacob said, " I invite all to this island!". Is he the parioshner of all that is? Any and all come to the island because of Jacob? If so, I see a few holes in that statement. If Jacob is the only one to bring in anyone, how is Widmore allowed to arrive? For a second time?

 

3- Jacob says to MIB, "Even if I die, you have to deal with the one! Or any other, if I die." What does that fawking mean? In other words, Richard?

 

4- Locke and Ben are told by Widmore, that if Locke doesn't return to the island the other side will "win".

Just curious as to what all this sh!t means?

 

Thank you for the kind words, but I'm an average hack that doesn't profess to know more about the show than anyone else. I just blather on about it more than anybody else. The other knucklehead fans around here could probably cover the answers.

 

I'm pretty sure I'll touch on this and more during an extra long writeup this week. I'll take up a lot of space just to quote previous writeups and pat myself on the back for being right about lots of stuff.

 

See, I can cut a preview just like LOST.

[Lackman 0]

That wasn't the Black Rock. It was a different ship, a much larger ship. I was convinced that was the Black Rock too, but the Black Rock we saw last night was a much smaller vessel.

 

It's been established that Magnus Hanso was captain of the Black Rock. The captain of last night's ship was Magnus Hanso.

[jvirne 0]

It's been established that Magnus Hanso was captain of the Black Rock. The captain of last night's ship was Magnus Hanso.

 

Sorry, I wasn't specific.

 

The ship from the end of Season 5 (Video Clip Here) looks larger than the Black Rock.

 

I could be wrong, but judging by the sails, it appears to be a larger vessel.

 

I don't think they're the same ships.

 

EDIT: Here's a pic of The Black Rock.

 

I take it back. They could be the same ships. The Black Rock of last night seemed much smaller than that pic would indicate. Maybe because they focused so much on the interior.

[jvirne 0]

Anyone ever post this before?

 

The Black Rock. This British(?) slave-trading vessel disappeared in 1881, on a return voyage from a gold mining operation in the South Indian Ocean. Perhaps more interesting than the fact the ship was lost were the circumstances preceding and following its disappearance. According to traders on Papua New Guinea, the ship sailed away from port in an Easterly direction, rather than West to Africa, where it would exchange gold from the mines in Indonesia and Papua New Guinea for more slaves. Furthermore, though a copy of the ship's manifest has been discovered - no accurate information is available on the ship's ownership. According to the manifest, The Black Rock initially sailed from (and was supposed to return to) slip 23 in Portsmouth, Britain -- but no shipping company claimed ownership. A crew of some 40 men, along with an uncounted number of slaves, was presumably lost at sea.

 

http://www.freewebs.com/shipwreckmate/

 

Scroll down a bit to find it.

[The Hood 9]

Oh, yeah. For those that don't believe in my Loops Theory.

 

Remember in Season 5 when the Black Rock was approaching the island, being watched by Jacob and MIB? Sure looked like high noon and a beautiful sunny day. Now, tonight, the Black Rock crashes on the island at night in the middle of a semi-hurricane. Explain that.

 

FACE.

Don't know they are the same ship for sure............that could just have been other people Jacob was bringing to the island.

 

If it is the same ship we saw I'd just say the explanation is the time dicrepency that has been established between the island and the rest of the world. We've seen the Ajira flight go from night to day right before crash landing, flight 815 should have crashed at like 10pm from when it left not in the middle of the day and the helicopter flight with Sayid and Desmond that left at dusk and landed in the afternoon.

[Kopy 570]

Wow - I thought this episode told us so much but when I stop and think of the entire show and I'm like There is SO MUCH MORE to be told.

Learning as much as we did tonight I cant believe there are still EIGHT episodes left.

I loved the wine bottle/Island beng the cork keeping out helll analogy.

 

Excellent episode.

 

That was the best part for me.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

Wait, so Lackman = Phillybear?

 

also, where are these lost wrap ups?

[jvirne 0]

Go fock yourself.

 

Oh, I'm sorry. That's www.gofockyourself.com.

[jvirne 0]

Jacob prides himself on free will. There's always a choice. Yet he keeps the MiB imprisoned, denying him his freedom; leaving him to his fate.

The MiB prides himself on fate. It always ends the same. Yet he can't kill Jacob without convincing someone to do it...getting them to do it of their own free will.

 

I like a lot of this. Also ironic is how MIB criticizes humanity for always destroying each other, but for most of the series he floats around as smokey killing everyone he can find.

 

Hey smokey, it's a tip you're projecting. Jacob might be trying to teach you something about yourself, not humanity.