My Problem with Trans Jenner

[Sho Nuff 720]

Here's my take on religion:

If there's a God and/or heaven, the people who treat others with kindness will get in, the people are treat others like ass holes will not. It's really simple.

 

And if it works any way other than this, then the system blows

 

I think its more than just treat people with kindness...but that sure is a hell of a start.

[tanatastic 2,062]

 

Yeah...you seem like a very unreasonable person and the type that its pointless to even try discussing religion...which is why I don't get into it on the internet with most people.

 

Enjoy your day.

Im prob the most reasonable debator on the entire internet. I use only logic, reason, common sense and empathy when debating. That means I put myself in your shoes and try to see it from your perspective. But its like im trying to debate wether there is a santa clause with a 3yr old. Im not saying anyone is dumb as a 3yr old, im comparing concepts.

 

My argument: Santa is illogical, theres no way he could hit that many houses in a night, cant fit in chimney, houses dont all have chimneys etc. etc on and on.

 

Counter argument: Well you believe what you want. Im saying theres a santa and thats all there is to it. Just trust in santa and all will be well. cuz reasons.

 

Me: But...logic and common sense and reason? Facts?

 

Counter: Nope sorry, I believe and thats all there is to it. Even tho the things I believe cant possibly be true, I still do.

 

 

See? Thats how every discussion about treligeon goes. I love analogys and im a master of them so ill bless you with another. Lets say its you vs me and my argument is that I have a magic banana that can grant wishes and do whatever I want. My argument is that even tho its absurd and I cant prove it to you in any way shape or form, my banana is still magic and thats what I believe. Your argument is...well, you dont have much of one since its so ridiculous and silly that your argument really goes unsaid. See my point? My philosophies are aristotelian in wisdom so I understand if not. No offense , im just aware that my tutelage requires a level of reading comprehension far greater than an avg person should be expected to have.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Im prob the most reasonable debator on the entire internet. But its like im trying to debate wether there is a santa clause with a 3yr old. Im not saying anyone is dumb as a 3yr old, im comparing concepts.

 

My argument: Santa is illogical, theres no way he could hit that many houses in a night, cant fit in chimney, houses dont all have chimneys etc. etc on and on.

 

Counter argument: Well you believe what you want. Im saying theres a santa and thats all there is to it. Just trust in santa and all will be well. cuz reasons.

 

Me: But...logic and common sense and reason? Facts?

 

Counter: Nope sorry, I believe and thats all there is to it. Even tho the things I believe cant possibly be true, I still do.

 

Other than your incorrect point about people who don't take everything in the bible as literal are fakes...yeah...you are reasonable.

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

If you are a CHRISTian, shouldn't the words of Christ be the things you adhere to? If God sent him to us to spread Gods word, shouldn't whatever came before it be disregarded?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Not completely disregarded...just understand the overall context of things.

And I am, by no means, a biblical scholar.

But do like to learn more and more when I have a chance.

[tanatastic 2,062]

 

Other than your incorrect point about people who don't take everything in the bible as literal are fakes...yeah...you are reasonable

I dont make the rules. Tell your stance there to a real hardcore christian and they will tell you you are going to hell unless you change your tune. Its literal or make believe, there are no 2 ways about it.

 

When a magic guy with a beard comes down from the sky, trust me, ill be the first person in line to worship him til I die.

[NewbieJr 541]

Im prob the most reasonable debator on the entire internet. I use only logic, reason, common sense and empathy when debating. That means I put myself in your shoes and try to see it from your perspective. But its like im trying to debate wether there is a santa clause with a 3yr old. Im not saying anyone is dumb as a 3yr old, im comparing concepts.

 

My argument: Santa is illogical, theres no way he could hit that many houses in a night, cant fit in chimney, houses dont all have chimneys etc. etc on and on.

 

Counter argument: Well you believe what you want. Im saying theres a santa and thats all there is to it. Just trust in santa and all will be well. cuz reasons.

 

Me: But...logic and common sense and reason? Facts?

 

Counter: Nope sorry, I believe and thats all there is to it. Even tho the things I believe cant possibly be true, I still do.

 

 

See? Thats how every discussion about treligeon goes. I love analogys and im a master of them so ill bless you with another. Lets say its you vs me and my argument is that I have a magic banana that can grant wishes and do whatever I want. My argument is that even tho its absurd and I cant prove it to you in any way shape or form, my banana is still magic and thats what I believe. Your argument is...well, you dont have much of one since its so ridiculous and silly that your argument really goes unsaid. See my point? My philosophies are aristotelian in wisdom so I understand if not. No offense , im just aware that my tutelage requires a level of reading comprehension far greater than an avg person should be expected to have.

I'm 90% sure that there's no God and 100% sure that organized religion is a money grubbing crock of . But I also respect other people's belief in god and don't make it my goal to mock and ridicule people with good intentions. And people who do so are the lowest form of scum there is.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I dont make the rules. Tell your stance there to a real hardcore christian and they will tell you you are going to hell unless you change your tune. Its literal or make believe, there are no 2 ways about it.

 

When a magic guy with a beard comes down from the sky, trust me, ill be the first person in line to worship him til I die.

 

You realize there are more people out there than hard core Christian fundamentalists that take it all literally right?

 

And yes...there are more ways than just the ways of those people.

Believing the bible 100% is literal is not the way to Christ or the way to a relationship with God.

 

You seem to not understand that very well which is why I call you unreasonable.

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

I dont make the rules. Tell your stance there to a real hardcore christian and they will tell you you are going to hell unless you change your tune. Its literal or make believe, there are no 2 ways about it.

 

When a magic guy with a beard comes down from the sky, trust me, ill be the first person in line to worship him til I die.

There was a social worker who worked at my precinct and she was one of those all of the bible is true and if you don't accept Christ you can't get in to heaven. Believed Jonah lived in a whale and all the rest. So I asked her if all the kids in Africa and China who never had a chance to be exposed to Jesus were doomed, and she said yes. I then asked her why she wasn't over there spreading the word like a Christian is supposed to be doing. She started to cry and made a complaint against me. I had to actually apologize.

[tanatastic 2,062]

I'm 90% sure that there's no God and 100% sure that organized religion is a money grubbing crock of ######. But I also respect other people's belief in god and don't make it my goal to mock and ridicule people with good intentions. And people who do so are the lowest form of scum there is.

I can agree with all this. I wouldnt say lowest form of scum, thats hyperbole considering the evil in the world. But I see what your saying and agree.

[tanatastic 2,062]

There was a social worker who worked at my precinct and she was one of those all of the bible is true and if you don't accept Christ you can't get in to heaven. Believed Jonah lived in a whale and all the rest. So I asked her if all the kids in Africa and China who never had a chance to be exposed to Jesus were doomed, and she said yes. I then asked her why she wasn't over there spreading the word like a Christian is supposed to be doing. She started to cry and mad a complaint against me. I had to actually apologize.

Lol theres a dude who livesd in a whale? Wow it gets better. But yea thats an interesting point too. If everyone is going to hell, what about those that have never heard of jesus? Or how bout those that lived before jesus? They just all are doomed or went to hell? Thats billions upon billions of people you realize. See how silly this is people? cmon I know im the bad guy in this argument but can you not see how unreasonable it all is?

 

Its like if theres 10 people...1 of them says jesus is the way and all other 9 of you are going to hell. Who is being unreasonable there?

[jerryskids 6,962]

Lol theres a dude who livesd in a whale? Wow it gets better. But yea thats an interesting point too. If everyone is going to hell, what about those that have never heard of jesus? Or how bout those that lived before jesus? They just all are doomed or went to hell? Thats billions upon billions of people you realize. See how silly this is people? cmon I know im the bad guy in this argument but can you not see how unreasonable it all is?

 

Its like if theres 10 people...1 of them says jesus is the way and all other 9 of you are going to hell. Who is being unreasonable there?

Having read your comments since my last post, I am even more convinced that you have a Slingblade level understanding of Christianity. I'm dumber for having read your posts. May God have mercy on your soul.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Having read your comments since my last post, I am even more convinced that you have a Slingblade level understanding of Christianity. I'm dumber for having read your posts. May God have mercy on your soul.

Im awarded no points?!

[jerryskids 6,962]

Im awarded no points?!

Correct, Billy.

[Voltaire 5,388]

Im awarded no points?!

Even those of us that completely agree with you think you're being rude, condescending, and over the top. People shell up and get defensive when you mock their belief system, tell thm how stupid they are and insult their intelligence. You're not doing yourself or us any favors since you're reinforcing their belief that we're all a$$holes.

 

I agree with you, I disagree with Fumbleweed. Fumbleweed is a smart guy. Like you, I have no idea how he and others like him are incapable of seeing though this but he has his reasons. Unlike you, he's also one of the nicest guys here. He's also polite and respectful and is willing to have a genuine discussion with you. This is rare on a board full of a$$holes like this on. Maybe if you didn't treat him like idiot, you could have had one with him. Maybe you still can if it's not too late.

 

Check yourself, leave your attitude at the door, try again, don't embarass the other atheists. I've no doubt you can win on logic, but it gets lost when the style and delivery are this bad. No points.

[OldMaid 2,134]

Even those of us that completely agree with you think you're being rude, condescending, and over the top. People shell up and get defensive when you mock their belief system, tell thm how stupid they are and insult their intelligence. You're not doing yourself or us any favors since you're reinforcing their belief that we're all a$$holes.

I agree with you, I disagree with Fumbleweed. Fumbleweed is a smart guy. Like you, I have no idea how he and others like him are incapable of seeing though this but he has his reasons. Unlike you, he's also one of the nicest guys here. He's also polite and respectful and is willing to have a genuine discussion with you. This is rare on a board full of a$$holes like this on. Maybe if you didn't treat him like idiot, you could have had one with him. Maybe you still can if it's not too late.

Check yourself, leave your attitude at the door, try again, don't embarass the other atheists. I've no doubt you can win on logic, but it gets lost when the style and delivery are this bad. No points.

This

 

 

I'm awarding him -100 pts.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Even those of us that completely agree with you think you're being rude, condescending, and over the top. People shell up and get defensive when you mock their belief system, tell thm how stupid they are and insult their intelligence. You're not doing yourself or us any favors since you're reinforcing their belief that we're all a$$holes.

 

I agree with you, I disagree with Fumbleweed. Fumbleweed is a smart guy. Like you, I have no idea how he and others like him are incapable of seeing though this but he has his reasons. Unlike you, he's also one of the nicest guys here. He's also polite and respectful and is willing to have a genuine discussion with you. This is rare on a board full of a$$holes like this on. Maybe if you didn't treat him like idiot, you could have had one with him. Maybe you still can if it's not too late.

 

Check yourself, leave your attitude at the door, try again, don't embarass the other atheists. I've no doubt you can win on logic, but it gets lost when the style and delivery are this bad. No points.

Meh.

 

While I agree that his approach is abrasive, what else can you call a belief system which holds that an omnipotent diety created the world, ruled for a couple thousand years as a hellfire and brimstone despot, complete with a very weird and thorough set of rules involving everything from menstrstion to masturbation, then one day has a change of heart, decides to split himself into thirds, knock up some carpernters wife, let his son/self die in horrible fashion, which was somehow necessary to "wash away" what he determined were our sins in the first place, and then rose himself from the dead to sit beside himself and himself in the holy trinity.

 

I mean, if that doesn't sound stupid, I got nothing for you.

[naomi 360]

TBBOM, although I think it would still strike you as stupid, either way, for the record that summary isn't the summary I'd give.

 

I actually don't mind the rigid negative remarks because I know they're honest thoughts shared by the more diplomatic others. If it opens the door to explain something that expounds on the gospel, it's worth it. Yes, it probably most often just opens the door to marinate in pity and scorn, but you never know...

 

Christian Answers (apologetics) on Jonah

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

TBBOM, although I think it would still strike you as stupid, either way, for the record that summary isn't the summary I'd give.

 

I actually don't mind the rigid negative remarks because I know they're honest thoughts shared by the more diplomatic others. If it opens the door to explain something that expounds on the gospel, it's worth it. Yes, it probably most often just opens the door to marinate in pity and scorn, but you never know...

 

Christian Answers (apologetics) on Jonah

So Jonah did live in a whale for 3 days. I stand corrected, after all, it was on the Internet.

[DankNuggs 305]

I dont make the rules. Tell your stance there to a real hardcore christian and they will tell you you are going to hell unless you change your tune. Its literal or make believe, there are no 2 ways about it.

 

When a magic guy with a beard comes down from the sky, trust me, ill be the first person in line to worship him til I die.

Just isn't true, the bible is filled with parables

[Voltaire 5,388]

So Jonah did live in a whale for 3 days. I stand corrected, after all, it was on the Internet.

See. You can find the divinely inspired words of God on the Internet. You can also find lots of free pron, ISIS recruitment videos, medical advice, GFIAFP ramblings, or a really good deal on shoes if you know where to look.

[naomi 360]

The biblical account online. It's only a four chapter book.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Even those of us that completely agree with you think you're being rude, condescending, and over the top. People shell up and get defensive when you mock their belief system, tell thm how stupid they are and insult their intelligence. You're not doing yourself or us any favors since you're reinforcing their belief that we're all a$$holes.

 

I agree with you, I disagree with Fumbleweed. Fumbleweed is a smart guy. Like you, I have no idea how he and others like him are incapable of seeing though this but he has his reasons. Unlike you, he's also one of the nicest guys here. He's also polite and respectful and is willing to have a genuine discussion with you. This is rare on a board full of a$$holes like this on. Maybe if you didn't treat him like idiot, you could have had one with him. Maybe you still can if it's not too late.

 

Check yourself, leave your attitude at the door, try again, don't embarass the other atheists. I've no doubt you can win on logic, but it gets lost when the style and delivery are this bad. No points.

All fine points and your prob right. I however, stand by everything I have said, you can consider it tough love. Religion is the most unique conversation in the world in that one side can be so blatantly wrong and silly yet the side of logic has zero room for headway. Theres no possible way I can win the argument. No one has ever had a discussion like this that ended in "Gee you know what, it is silly and your right, theres no possible way this stuff isnt make believe. Im going to change the way iv thought all my life, thanks." It just cant happen. So why not say what I feel since theres no hope of a legit argument anyway? I apologize if I was a diick, im just having a bit of fun, even tho the conviction behind my words is 100% how I feel and how i think anyone with a sound mind should also feel.

 

Seriously can anyone think of another argument where one side has a MOUNTAIN of evidence, the other side has NONE, yet it's still an unwinnable argument? It's absolutely unreal.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

TBBOM, although I think it would still strike you as stupid, either way, for the record that summary isn't the summary I'd give.

 

I actually don't mind the rigid negative remarks because I know they're honest thoughts shared by the more diplomatic others. If it opens the door to explain something that expounds on the gospel, it's worth it. Yes, it probably most often just opens the door to marinate in pity and scorn, but you never know...

 

Christian Answers (apologetics) on Jonah

But is it an inaccurate summary?

[IGotWorms 4,060]

So Jonah did live in a whale for 3 days. I stand corrected, after all, it was on the Internet.

I love how her site mocks "Christian liberals" who suggest it was only an allegory

[Voltaire 5,388]

Seriously can anyone think of another argument where one side has a MOUNTAIN of evidence, the other side has NONE, yet it's still an unwinnable argument? It's absolutely unreal.

Climate change. Vaccinations. The safety of genetically modified foods. The stupidity of joining ISIS.

[naomi 360]

But is it an inaccurate summary?

 

Yes.

[naomi 360]

I love how her site mocks "Christian liberals" who suggest it was only an allegory

 

Ha. I almost said something about overlooking how Christian Liberals was in quotations. If I was them I wouldn't do that because a lot of people will stop right there, irked by that.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

All right, since this has turned into a religion thread, here's one for you.

 

Let's assume for a moment that Christianity and the bible are 100% true. God exists, yadda yadda.

 

Even if you could prove that, that just solves one hurdle... The existential one.

 

The next hurdle is... Do I choose to follow/worship/obey this god. Lets examine what we "know" of this guy.

 

First off, supposedly, he is all powerful. Yet his children, whom he supposedly loves, are constantly beset by a host of plagues. Disease, natural disaster, etc. these are ills that man has little to no hand in. I mean small innocent babies die every day in agony.

 

Looking at the situation logically, I see the following possibilities...

 

1. God doesn't exist (which we shall put aside for this discussion).

2. God is not, in fact, all powerful and is actually pretty damn incompetent.

3. God doesn't love us, and is pretty much a d!ck

4. This entire existence is some sort of focked up test.

 

Lets look at the biblical "record"...

 

1. God tortured job on a dare from satan

2. God killed the firstborn children of Egypt, innocents though they were

3. God ordered/helped the Israelites commit genocide on numerous occasions.

4. God allowed his own son to be tormented on the cross

5. God drowned the entire population, even innocent babies

6. God maintains a rather vast torture complex called hell

 

Seems to me this guy makes hitler look like.a charming fellow.

 

Quite frankly, if I die and end up being judged by the Christian God, I would probably say that he has far more "sin" to answer for than I do.

 

So in short, I don't care if the Christian God exists. He is, by all accounts, a murdering intolerant , and I could give a fock what he thinks of me.

 

A divine thug is still a thug.

[jerryskids 6,962]

Even those of us that completely agree with you think you're being rude, condescending, and over the top. People shell up and get defensive when you mock their belief system, tell thm how stupid they are and insult their intelligence. You're not doing yourself or us any favors since you're reinforcing their belief that we're all a$$holes.

 

I agree with you, I disagree with Fumbleweed. Fumbleweed is a smart guy. Like you, I have no idea how he and others like him are incapable of seeing though this but he has his reasons. Unlike you, he's also one of the nicest guys here. He's also polite and respectful and is willing to have a genuine discussion with you. This is rare on a board full of a$$holes like this on. Maybe if you didn't treat him like idiot, you could have had one with him. Maybe you still can if it's not too late.

 

Check yourself, leave your attitude at the door, try again, don't embarass the other atheists. I've no doubt you can win on logic, but it gets lost when the style and delivery are this bad. No points.

 

I think you are being overly kind in calling him condescending, as that implies an intellectual superiority that he clearly lacks. It is one thing to find the idea of an interactive god unbelievable. But to equate the belief that Jesus was an incarnation of such a god on earth with the belief that the bible has to be literal and unerring is just mindnumbingly inane. He just isn't smart, and I find it amusing that he uses this topic to attempt to be smart.

[SUXBNME 1,583]

This .

Our society is becoming way to accepting of deviants from the norm.

Bruce, you wanna be a chick? fine. The technology is there for you to do that. Your pain and suffering since whenever you decided you were a woman trapped in a mans body? Sure, Whatever... I can't judge you given that I haven't walked a mile in your shoes.

But the Arthur Ashe Courage award? No.

Granted, you didn't ask for it, but you are not deserving of it. At least not for turning into a woman.

If the award was bestowed upon you for having to put up with your ex wife and all her crazy self entiltled offsprings before you, then you deserve it more than most.

By the way, your daughter Kylie is smoking hot. Good job on that one

Sorry fuckos. I won this thread on page one. Deal with it

[naomi 360]

All right, since this has turned into a religion thread, here's one for you.

 

Let's assume for a moment that Christianity and the bible are 100% true. God exists, yadda yadda.

 

Even if you could prove that, that just solves one hurdle... The existential one.

 

The next hurdle is... Do I choose to follow/worship/obey this god. Lets examine what we "know" of this guy.

 

First off, supposedly, he is all powerful. Yet his children, whom he supposedly loves, are constantly beset by a host of plagues. Disease, natural disaster, etc. these are ills that man has little to no hand in. I mean small innocent babies die every day in agony.

 

Looking at the situation logically, I see the following possibilities...

 

1. God doesn't exist (which we shall put aside for this discussion).

2. God is not, in fact, all powerful and is actually pretty damn incompetent.

3. God doesn't love us, and is pretty much a d!ck

4. This entire existence is some sort of focked up test.

 

Lets look at the biblical "record"...

 

1. God tortured job on a dare from satan

2. God killed the firstborn children of Egypt, innocents though they were

3. God ordered/helped the Israelites commit genocide on numerous occasions.

4. God allowed his own son to be tormented on the cross

5. God drowned the entire population, even innocent babies

6. God maintains a rather vast torture complex called hell

 

Seems to me this guy makes hitler look like.a charming fellow.

 

Quite frankly, if I die and end up being judged by the Christian God, I would probably say that he has far more "sin" to answer for than I do.

 

So in short, I don't care if the Christian God exists. He is, by all accounts, a murdering intolerant ######, and I could give a fock what he thinks of me.

 

A divine thug is still a thug.

 

Some of how you put stuff in your record list should be put differently (I believe, obviously)...just tweak level, but really significant meaning wise.

 

As far as your main focus though, this is a good read.

[tanatastic 2,062]

 

I think you are being overly kind in calling him condescending, as that implies an intellectual superiority that he clearly lacks. It is one thing to find the idea of an interactive god unbelievable. But to equate the belief that Jesus was an incarnation of such a god on earth with the belief that the bible has to be literal and unerring is just mindnumbingly inane. He just isn't smart, and I find it amusing that he uses this topic to attempt to be smart.

You disagree with me so I'm less intelligent, great argument. it's pretty clear by the way I write and formulate thoughts that I'm at least a competently intelligent person. I didn't go to college but there's prob not an "intelligence test" made that I could not beat you at. Not saying your dumb at all, I know your not. But I'm confident I'm just a step or so above, barring math wich I'm terrible at. Your debate skills are grossly lacking though. You veer towards hyperbole and absolution while I use logical analogies and reason to make my points.

 

As iv stated multiple times, it's an unwinnable argument for both sides. A debate is won by who presents the better argument, regardless of who's right or wrong. Since you've presented nothing and iv showered you with a cornucopia of thought provoking analogies and comparisons, it's pretty clear who is winning/has won.

 

Mic status: Dropped

 

How's that for condensation...err, condensing, err condescending?

[SUXBNME 1,583]

You disagree with me so I'm less intelligent, great argument. it's pretty clear by the way I write and formulate thoughts that I'm at least a competently intelligent person. I didn't go to college but there's prob not an "intelligence test" made that I could not beat you at. Not saying your dumb at all, I know your not. But I'm confident I'm just a step or so above, barring math wich I'm terrible at. Your debate skills are grossly lacking though. You veer towards hyperbole and absolution while I use logical analogies and reason to make my points.

 

As iv stated multiple times, it's an unwinnable argument for both sides. A debate is won by who presents the better argument, regardless of who's right or wrong. Since you've presented nothing and iv showered you with a cornucopia of thought provoking analogies and comparisons, it's pretty clear who is winning/has won.

 

Mic status: Dropped

 

How's that for condensation...err, condensing, err condescending?

on the bolded

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tanatastic 2,062]

on the bolded

 

I consider apostrophes an archaic and unnecessary part of typing on the internet. I know how to use them if I had to wich is the important part. "Going to your mothers house." "You're just not feeling well." But I much prefer shorthand wherever possible. Cuz, tho, nuff, things like that. I can't be bothered to hunt down the right little symbol that makes zero difference as far as being able to understand the word.

[drobeski 3,061]

Nah. The modern Christian simply disregards the parts that aren't convenient but then holds its words as sacred when it fits their agenda.

very reminiscent of those mmgw religious whack jobs.

Fact, right ?

[Voltaire 5,388]

Z

very reminiscent of those mmgw religious whack jobs.

Fact, right ?

Not really, no

[drobeski 3,061]

Z Not really, no

yeah it is. Z

[MDC 7,652]

All right, since this has turned into a religion thread, here's one for you.

 

Let's assume for a moment that Christianity and the bible are 100% true. God exists, yadda yadda.

 

Even if you could prove that, that just solves one hurdle... The existential one.

 

The next hurdle is... Do I choose to follow/worship/obey this god. Lets examine what we "know" of this guy.

 

First off, supposedly, he is all powerful. Yet his children, whom he supposedly loves, are constantly beset by a host of plagues. Disease, natural disaster, etc. these are ills that man has little to no hand in. I mean small innocent babies die every day in agony.

 

Looking at the situation logically, I see the following possibilities...

 

1. God doesn't exist (which we shall put aside for this discussion).

2. God is not, in fact, all powerful and is actually pretty damn incompetent.

3. God doesn't love us, and is pretty much a d!ck

4. This entire existence is some sort of focked up test.

 

Lets look at the biblical "record"...

 

1. God tortured job on a dare from satan

2. God killed the firstborn children of Egypt, innocents though they were

3. God ordered/helped the Israelites commit genocide on numerous occasions.

4. God allowed his own son to be tormented on the cross

5. God drowned the entire population, even innocent babies

6. God maintains a rather vast torture complex called hell

 

Seems to me this guy makes hitler look like.a charming fellow.

 

Quite frankly, if I die and end up being judged by the Christian God, I would probably say that he has far more "sin" to answer for than I do.

 

So in short, I don't care if the Christian God exists. He is, by all accounts, a murdering intolerant ######, and I could give a fock what he thinks of me.

 

A divine thug is still a thug.

God works in mysterious ways. /endgame

[IGotWorms 4,060]

 

Some of how you put stuff in your record list should be put differently (I believe, obviously)...just tweak level, but really significant meaning wise.

 

As far as your main focus though, this is a good read.

It's a damning indictment though