Vince44 202 Posted January 16, 2019 Height: 6-5 Weight: 250 The guy could have handled this kid without punching her in the face. He could have restrained her with ease instead of hitting the knockout shot. Is he not capable of calling the cops to diffuse the situation? Is he not capable of walking back to his own car to ease all the tension? The couple of pushes he took to the back did not even phase his balance. He has a massive size advantage over her and is lucky he didn't do serious damage to her. The guy should have the sense at his age of 51 to not punch an 11 year old girl in the face unless it was absolutely necessary to save himself. Where was the gun, knife, or any weapon that left him with no choice but to knock her out? Sure didn't see or hear anything of the sort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted January 16, 2019 Height: 6-5 Weight: 250 The guy could have handled this kid without punching her in the face. He could have restrained her with ease instead of hitting the knockout shot. Is he not capable of calling the cops to diffuse the situation? Is he not capable of walking back to his own car to ease all the tension? The couple of pushes he took to the back did not even phase his balance. He has a massive size advantage over her and is lucky he didn't do serious damage to her. The guy should have the sense at his age of 51 to not punch an 11 year old girl in the face unless it was absolutely necessary to save himself. Where was the gun, knife, or any weapon that left him with no choice but to knock her out? Sure didn't see or hear anything of the sort. Sure. And the kid could have walked away, chosen not to do anything as well. My question is what be so stupid as to take on a 6-5 250 lb person, that seems incredibly stupid. Being 11, or a female, does not give you a free pass to be violent.....nor does being 6-5 250, or being transgender or anything else. Hold the guy accountable of that is proper under the law, the kids as well. Kids think they will get a free pass, its part of the reason they do not restrain their own violence, and as result never build the skills to be a functioning member of society. then people want to weep for them when they are murdered in the street. I think this guy may have done the kid a favor, learning that you cannot simply imply or act out violence without repercussions is an important life lesson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted January 16, 2019 I'm not even sure that he punched her. If you slow it down, it looks like she ran into his fist. I think a case could be made that she assaulted him...maybe even injured his fist with her face. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted January 16, 2019 I'm not even sure that he punched her. If you slow it down, it looks like she ran into his fist. I think a case could be made that she assaulted him...maybe even injured his fist with her face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 700 Posted January 16, 2019 He was wrong. All of you would want to kick his ass if that was your pre teen daughter. Nobody lays a hand on my child but me is what you would be saying. The "pre teen daughters" you speak of are those, like yours and mine, that were raised somewhat properly and would never be caught in a situation like this. Awaiting the parent(s?) response to this though. Will it be (and translated into English): a) she's a good kid and didn't do anything to deserve this; the man is an obvious racist and this is a hate crime; or c) both a and b ? Its a focking pack of hyenas and the lead one got taken out and the rest scattered like the cockroaches that they are. Any kid with any kind of morals doesn't end up in that spot. She should be pissed at whoever raised her to be a piece of . This is the garbage that just grows up to do more evil and vile things. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted January 16, 2019 The "pre teen daughters" you speak of are those, like yours and mine, that were raised somewhat properly and would never be caught in a situation like this. Awaiting the parent(s?) response to this though. Will it be (and translated into English): a) she's a good kid and didn't do anything to deserve this; the man is an obvious racist and this is a hate crime; or c) both a and b ? Its a focking pack of hyenas and the lead one got taken out and the rest scattered like the cockroaches that they are. Any kid with any kind of morals doesn't end up in that spot. She should be pissed at whoever raised her to be a piece of ######. This is the garbage that just grows up to do more evil and vile things. Correct. It is rather easy for me to not worry about it for my kids, they have been raised properly. They also would never approach or assault a stranger outside at 11PM after buying skittles. Kids who act like criminals open themselves up to this, I am good with it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,392 Posted January 16, 2019 Where was the gun, knife, or any weapon that left him with no choice but to knock her out? Remind me not to depend on you to watch my back. If someone is moving at you aggressively, and youre waiting on the actual display of a weapon before you act, then youre already fuked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted January 16, 2019 Remind me not to depend on you to watch my back. If someone is moving at you aggressively, and youre waiting on the actual display of a weapon before you act, then youre already fuked. Damn, there goes the Vince and Fireballer duo, ready to travel the country duking it out with bad guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,902 Posted January 16, 2019 I teach my kids to follow the advice of police when its given to them. For example if my kids saw a suspicious person wandering through the neighborhood I would hope they would report it to the police and let the professionals handle it, instead of stalking the suspicious character and then following him on foot, needlessly instigating a confrontation. That would be irresponsible and dumb. Likewise, this guy would probably have been better served calling the police. Especially if he was so threatened by an 11 y/o girl that he needed to throw a punch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,129 Posted January 16, 2019 It wouldve been funny if he started Fortnite dancing all over the place after he knocked her out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,073 Posted January 16, 2019 Remind me not to depend on you to watch my back. If someone is moving at you aggressively, and youre waiting on the actual display of a weapon before you act, then youre already fuked.It's cool. He'll do an ocular patdown and you'll be safe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,549 Posted January 16, 2019 Assuming a couple things, I would have done the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted January 16, 2019 It wouldve been funny if he started Fortnite dancing all over the place after he knocked her out. None of her friends were interested in going for the revive. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 690 Posted January 16, 2019 https://wlos.com/news/local/black-mountain-man-charged-with-assault-on-girl Girl was allegedly 12. I guess it shows what 12 year old punks are capable of -- acting like the animals they were here. And, what punishment 12 year old punks deserve. He didn't kill her. He reminded her "don't ###### with other people's families". She got off easy, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,549 Posted January 16, 2019 What if this guy is a 5'8 Asian man and KOs her with a lightening fast karate strike? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,073 Posted January 16, 2019 What if this guy is a 5'8 Asian man and KOs here with a lightening fast karate strike? Him pulling the Crane move would've been awesome! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,902 Posted January 16, 2019 I guess it shows what 12 year old punks are capable of -- acting like the animals they were here. And, what punishment 12 year old punks deserve. He didn't kill her. He reminded her "don't ###### with other people's families". She got off easy, IMO. Can we confirm that these girls were harassing the guys family? Not sure why you and 90sbaby are making this assumption. It wasnt in either article I read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,215 Posted January 16, 2019 This place is a fascinating social experiment. Somehow, every topic goes along political affiliation, myself included. I don't know how he got himself into that situation and maybe he could have avoided it, but from the video provided, he was surrounded and then confronted by a girl who said "let's do it". He pushed her fairly strongly which IMO indicated "you do NOT want to fock with me." She instead came back at him fists ready. What is he supposed to do? If it was a 1 on 1 confrontation and he was trained, he could have tried to subdue her I suppose. But it wasn't 1 on 1, and anyone trained in combat will tell you that you take out the risk, on your feet if at all possible. This is one of the flaws of jiu jitsu; you don't want to go to the ground if your assailant has friends around to stomp you in the head. Knock her out and prepare for the next attack. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishop82 61 Posted January 16, 2019 Can we confirm that these girls were harassing the guys family? Not sure why you and 90sbaby are making this assumption. It wasnt in either article I read. Find this terrible article, don't know how accurate it is though. https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/david-steven-bell/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,902 Posted January 16, 2019 Find this terrible article, don't know how accurate it is though. https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/david-steven-bell/ Thanks. That article says he was sticking up for a woman / not his wife. Doesnt seem like he was defending his family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted January 16, 2019 Thanks. That article says he was sticking up for a woman / not his wife. Doesnt seem like he was defending his family. I think Gillette would tell us we should stick up for a woman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,073 Posted January 16, 2019 I think Gillette would tell us we should stick up for a woman. Very true. In fact you need to cross the street and jump in the fray. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 16, 2019 Can we confirm that these girls were harassing the guys family? Not sure why you and 90sbaby are making this assumption. It wasnt in either article I read.video confirms he was being harrassed and assaulted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 864 Posted January 16, 2019 Find this terrible article, don't know how accurate it is though. https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/david-steven-bell/ crazy how many articles say "white man" and "black girl". you don't see that when a suspect is black. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,902 Posted January 16, 2019 video confirms he was being harrassed and assaulted What we dont know is why he was involved at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishop82 61 Posted January 16, 2019 crazy how many articles say "white man" and "black girl". you don't see that when a suspect is black.Hence, why I led with calling it a terrible article. But it was one of the only articles that mentioned that it wasn't his family he was defending. Edit: Slightly more detailed article https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2019/01/15/asheville-mall-fight-lawyer-says-man-defendant-ptsd-felt-threatened/2578496002/?ez_cid=CLIENT_ID(AMP_ECID_EZOIC) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,045 Posted January 16, 2019 I think if I were in this guy's situation, I probably would have to go all-in after the first one and see how many I could take out, like that question how many third-graders could you take. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,739 Posted January 16, 2019 Hence, why I led with calling it a terrible article. But it was one of the only articles that mentioned that it wasn't his family he was defending. Edit: Slightly more detailed article https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2019/01/15/asheville-mall-fight-lawyer-says-man-defendant-ptsd-felt-threatened/2578496002/?ez_cid=CLIENT_ID(AMP_ECID_EZOIC) From the article: "He said Bell escorted the woman through a mall exit and the youths followed, encircling him and blocking his ability to leave. Some taunted him and yelled threatening remarks, the attorney said." Sounds like they chose to fock with the wrong guy and one of them got a timeout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishop82 61 Posted January 16, 2019 From the article: "He said Bell escorted the woman through a mall exit and the youths followed, encircling him and blocking his ability to leave. Some taunted him and yelled threatening remarks, the attorney said." Sounds like they chose to fock with the wrong guy and one of them got a timeout. Agreed, hopefully the woman who he saved stands up for him in court. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,587 Posted January 16, 2019 This place is a fascinating social experiment. Somehow, every topic goes along political affiliation, myself included. being the only person here that is down the middle and dislikes both sides. My opinion on these things never follows any political lines. I have not seen the video. I am fine with someone else punching a little punk in the face. Would I do it? No. I am okay with someone else doing it. Carry on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted January 16, 2019 She got knocked the fuk out. She learned a valuable lesson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,902 Posted January 16, 2019 She got knocked the fuk out. She learned a valuable lesson. Is that what it was like to knock out Kimmel and Biden in your imagination? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,129 Posted January 16, 2019 being the only person here that is down the middle and dislikes both sides. My opinion on these things never follows any political lines. What does this mean? You hate immigratants but youll also take it in the butt from time to time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,052 Posted January 16, 2019 I teach my kids to follow the advice of police when its given to them. That's funny. If any of them did what they did to a police officer, the police would've tazed her ass and then riddled her body with bullets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,714 Posted January 16, 2019 That's funny. If any of them did what they did to a police officer, the police would've tazed her ass and then riddled her body with bullets. You know nothing of what you speak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted January 16, 2019 Is that what it was like to knock out Kimmel and Biden in your imagination?1/10 sho jr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 690 Posted January 17, 2019 Height: 6-5 Weight: 250 The guy could have handled this kid without punching her in the face. He could have restrained her with ease instead of hitting the knockout shot. Is he not capable of calling the cops to diffuse the situation? Is he not capable of walking back to his own car to ease all the tension? The couple of pushes he took to the back did not even phase his balance. He has a massive size advantage over her and is lucky he didn't do serious damage to her. The guy should have the sense at his age of 51 to not punch an 11 year old girl in the face unless it was absolutely necessary to save himself. Where was the gun, knife, or any weapon that left him with no choice but to knock her out? Sure didn't see or hear anything of the sort. Guy found out kids can be animals. The animal found out getting punched wasn't fun. She deserved much worse. She got off easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,073 Posted January 17, 2019 This would make for an awesome Tosh.0 web redemption. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishop82 61 Posted January 17, 2019 Height: 6-5 Weight: 250 The guy could have handled this kid without punching her in the face. He could have restrained her with ease instead of hitting the knockout shot. Is he not capable of calling the cops to diffuse the situation? Is he not capable of walking back to his own car to ease all the tension? The couple of pushes he took to the back did not even phase his balance. He has a massive size advantage over her and is lucky he didn't do serious damage to her. The guy should have the sense at his age of 51 to not punch an 11 year old girl in the face unless it was absolutely necessary to save himself. Where was the gun, knife, or any weapon that left him with no choice but to knock her out? Sure didn't see or hear anything of the sort. Are you forgetting he was literally surrounded? If he did restrained her, would the mob around him not attempt to do something about it? And sure, it didn't look like she had a weapon, but anyone in that crowd could have had a knife. The fact is, you can play keyboard quarterback now and say he was in the wrong but given he had seconds to make a decision, I'd say he made the correct one. In addition to that, if he is 6'5" how tall was she? 5'9"/5'10"? She definitely doesn't look 11 years old. Should he have asked for identification during the melee? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites