TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 9, 2019 9 hours ago, Mike Honcho said: You guys are arguing with people who deny even the most basic of facts.  Your time would be better spent explaining quantum physics to the Mad Hatter.  We know. All we have are 2 facts. The Vice President bragging about shaking down a government to bail out his son.  And the President asking the leader to look into it. They just refuse to acknowledge the facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 9, 2019 12 hours ago, OldMaid said: Just stop. Shokin was fired because he wasnât investigating Burisma, not the other way around.  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-happened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/ Just stop. Shokin was fired due to people lying about him. These same people came back and apologized for it. https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/09/26/report-hundreds-of-documents-conflict-with-joe-bidens-account-of-why-ukrainian-prosecutor-was-fired/ The Hillâs John Solomon is reporting that the documents â many from the American legal team that helped the company, Burisma Holdings, try to stave off its legal troubles â raise the âtroubling prospectâ that U.S. officials may have âpainted a false picture in Ukraine that helped âease Burismaâs legal troubles and stop prosecutorsâ plans to interviewâ Bidenâs son Hunter during the 2016 presidential elections. Solomon reported that, for instance, an official Ukrainian government memo shows that Burismaâs American legal representatives met with Ukrainian officials just days after Biden forced the firing of the chief prosecutor and offered âan apology for dissemination of false information by U.S. representatives and public figuresâ about Ukrainian prosecutors. In other words â the company that employed Bidenâs son apologized to the Ukrainian government after the firing of the chief prosecutor for the âU.S. representatives and public figuresâ actions or remarks. Solomon also reported that Burismaâs American team offered to introduce Ukrainian prosecutors to Obama administration officials to make amends, according to the Ukrainian government memo and Burismaâs American legal teamâs internal memos. According to Solomon, the memos raise the following âtroubling questionsâ: 1) If the Ukraine prosecutorâs firing involved only his alleged corruption and ineptitude, why did Burismaâs American legal team refer to those allegations as âfalse information?â 2) If the firing had nothing to do with the Burisma case, as Biden has adamantly claimed, why would Burismaâs American lawyers contact the replacement prosecutor within hours of the termination and urgently seek a meeting in Ukraine to discuss the case? Solomon reported that in a ânewly sworn affidavit prepared for a European court,â Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin testified that when he was fired in March 2016, he was told the reason was that Biden was unhappy about the Burisma investigation. âThe truth is that I was forced out because I was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma Holdings, a natural gas firm active in Ukraine and Joe Bidenâs son, Hunter Biden, was a member of the Board of Directors,â Shokin testified, according to Solomon.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted October 9, 2019 So Trump and his team sent a letter to Pelosi saying they will not participate in the impeachment probe. lol Why didn't Nixon and Clinton think of that? And criminals awaiting trial? Brilliant!!  Definitely the actions of an innocent man.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,505 Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Observer said: So Trump and his team sent a letter to Pelosi saying they will not participate in the impeachment probe. lol Why didn't Nixon and Clinton think of that? And criminals awaiting trial? Brilliant!!  Definitely the actions of an innocent man.  I need to hear what Brightbart or Conservative Sandbox thinks of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted October 9, 2019 Uhh, Trump, you can't just decline to participate in an impeachment. This isn't Vietnam #bonespurs -Trevor Noah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 9, 2019 selfie thinks Trump is on trial. Â Â Â Â Â We all appreciate the comic relief. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Observer said: So Trump and his team sent a letter to Pelosi saying they will not participate in the impeachment probe. lol Why didn't Nixon and Clinton think of that? And criminals awaiting trial? Brilliant!!  Definitely the actions of an innocent man.  Maybe it's just the actions of a busy man who is sick of being hounded on false accusations for years from leftists who care more about getting power back than getting anything done in this country.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, sderk said: Maybe it's just the actions of a busy man who is sick of being hounded on false accusations for years from leftists who care more about getting power back than getting anything done in this country.  Yeah, maybe,. Thank God he's never gone so far as to get a BJ, amirite? Now THAT is worth an impeachment.  Oh, and busy? Busy? The guy has golfed almost 300 days. And he spends half of the other days watching Fox and Friends. He's the least bust president the country has ever had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, The Observer said: Yeah, maybe,. Thank God he's never gone so far as to get a BJ, amirite? Now THAT is worth an impeachment.  Oh, and busy? Busy? The guy has golfed almost 300 days. And he spends half of the other days watching Fox and Friends. He's the least bust president the country has ever had. keep trying. Someday you are bound to getting something right if even out of luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 9, 2019 Someone tell Trevor that Trump isn't currently being impeached.  I guess his shtick relies on his audience being uninformed.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Someone tell Trevor that Trump isn't currently being impeached.  I guess his shtick relies on his audience being uninformed.  ROFL    Semantics  When you have nothing else to rely on, word play is a great fall back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted October 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, sderk said: Maybe it's just the actions of a busy man who is sick of being hounded on false accusations for years from leftists who care more about getting power back than getting anything done in this country.  Busy? Now that's funny. Unless, of course, tweeting and golfing count towards that. He's busy nonstop then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Observer said: ROFL    Semantics  When you have nothing else to rely on, word play is a great fall back.  The facts become semantics when you lose. It's what you got.   And, don't forget to alert us when the subpoenas go out. I know, requests/subpoenas, same thing, it's just semantics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted October 9, 2019 Free health care and education  for illegals and an open border. That should work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,942 Posted October 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Free health care and education  for illegals and an open border. That should work. Don't forget gun confiscation, so we can't defend ourselves from the criminals who will be let out of prison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,595 Posted October 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Busy? Now that's funny. Unless, of course, tweeting and golfing count towards that. He's busy nonstop then. Câmon man. Pick your fights better. You lose credibility with stuff like this. I welcome your differing opinion, but be genuine with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: Don't forget gun confiscation, so we can't defend ourselves from the criminals who will be let out of prison. Oh that's right, that's the new one: Abolish prisons. What a great deal  for an illegal who kills an American citizen (they do it a lot). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, avoiding injuries said: Câmon man. Pick your fights better. You lose credibility with stuff like this. I welcome your differing opinion, but be genuine with it. Those posts are a standing 8 count. They are constant since selfie reappeared.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: Câmon man. Pick your fights better. You lose credibility with stuff like this. I welcome your differing opinion, but be genuine with it. Please enlighten us on how 'busy' this president is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: Câmon man. Pick your fights better. You lose credibility with stuff like this. I welcome your differing opinion, but be genuine with it. What's not genuine about what I said? Trump does himself zero favors with how much time he spends tweeting. What the hell kind of President tweets as much as our current President. What other President spent more time at his own properties? The amount of time he spends on his phone is the one thing I've seen everyone agree on that they dislike about the President. Even his biggest supporters admit they wish he would stop doing it and focus on doing his job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted October 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: Don't forget gun confiscation, so we can't defend ourselves from the criminals who will be let out of prison. Are you honestly concerned about your guns being confiscated if a democrat becomes President? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: Are you honestly concerned about your guns being confiscated if a democrat becomes President? Depends what kind of gun you own. Every candidate has said they are confiscating certain types of weapons. Did you miss all that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Depends what kind of gun you own. Every candidate has said they are confiscating certain types of weapons. Did you miss all that? I did not miss that. Those are just talking points, which most likely will never happen. Even if that did happen, we're talking about specific guns and not all guns. That would mean we still keep our right to bear arms and protect ourselves. I'm not concerned one bit about losing any of my guns, it will never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,505 Posted October 9, 2019 Didnât Hardcuck say we should ban some automatic weapons like a month ago? That dude is a human weathervane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 9, 2019 So the facts that are know known to date.. Trump favor request was explicitly regarded the 2016 Russian collusion scam. The transcript verifies this. The Ukraine president has publicly stated he wasnt pressured. An anonymous CIA agent who not only supports but works for a 2020 candidate filed a 3rd hand whistleblower complaint. The rules for whistleblower needed changed to make this phony rat a qualified whistleblower.  This so called whistleblower went to team Schiff with his concerns prior to going to the IG , thus technically disqualifying him as a whistleblower.  The first whistleblower set up has been exposed to be a fraud, so now we have a second so called  whistleblower.  Did I miss anything ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,297 Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, drobeski said: So the facts that are know known to date.. Trump favor request was explicitly regarded the 2016 Russian collusion scam. The transcript verifies this. The Ukraine president has publicly stated he wasnt pressured. An anonymous CIA agent who not only supports but works for a 2020 candidate filed a 3rd hand whistleblower complaint. The rules for whistleblower needed changed to make this phony rat a qualified whistleblower.  This so called whistleblower went to team Schiff with his concerns prior to going to the IG , thus technically disqualifying him as a whistleblower.  The first whistleblower set up has been exposed to be a fraud, so now we have a second so called  whistleblower.  Did I miss anything ? Just the facts and truth, your usual.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted October 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, MDC said: Didnât Hardcuck say we should ban some automatic weapons like a month ago? That dude is a human weathervane. Automatic weapons shouid continue to be banned. What's your point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Just the facts and truth, your usual.  Where's the It's Wednesday, let's not argue about politics Thread? Slacker.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,505 Posted October 9, 2019 Hardcuck also thought Clinton was the best POTUS of our lifetime and Obungler was better than Reagan 2 years ago. Can you imagine being 50+ years old and having such waffling flimsy convictions about everything? Sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted October 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, drobeski said: So the facts that are know known to date.. Trump favor request was explicitly regarded the 2016 Russian collusion scam. The transcript verifies this. - LOL The Ukraine president has publicly stated he wasnt pressured.- You mean the STILL Ukraine President who desperately needs Trump to sell him weapons? Shocking! An anonymous CIA agent who not only supports but works for a 2020 candidate filed a 3rd hand whistleblower complaint. The rules for whistleblower needed changed to make this phony rat a qualified whistleblower.  - Whistleblower(s) is irrelevant now that Trump admitted to the crimes This so called whistleblower went to team Schiff with his concerns prior to going to the IG , thus technically disqualifying him as a whistleblower. -Again. Irrelevant. The first whistleblower set up has been exposed to be a fraud, so now we have a second so called  whistleblower.  - Still doesn't dismiss the phone call transcript (what Trump allowed to be seen, anyway) or him asking China for help investigating a political rival Did I miss anything ?  Yeah, Trump now has announced he has decided not to cooperate at all with the impeachment investigation. An obviously innocent man, LOL Answered Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, MDC said: Hardcuck also thought Clinton was the best POTUS of our lifetime and Obungler was better than Reagan 2 years ago. Can you imagine being 50+ years old and having such waffling flimsy convictions about everything? Sad. Nothing like the transformation from tall and slender to hourglass. That belongs in Ripleys believe it or not!  Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said: "This did change as part of a review that was already going on before Mr Trump called the Ukrainian leader, according to a statement from the Office of the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community." I've posted this before and I'll post it again; https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/intel-community-inspector-general-stonewalls-congress-refuses-to-explain-why-he-backdated-secret-changes-to-whistleblower-form/ The article you posted cited 'according to a statement from the Office of the Inspector General of the Intel Comm'. The article I posted here in response shows that the I.C. I.G. won't answer why he back dated the change to August for a change made in September. You along with other liberals conveniently look past the obvious reason the I.C.I.G. would backdate a change to prior to the whistleblower's complaint. You do know that a change to the form didnât change the law, right? The law has always been that first hand knowledge is not necessary. It states clearly in the article, that the changes to the forms were to clear up that misconception. Stop reading conspiracy sites... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,505 Posted October 9, 2019 My wife is tall, slender and has an hourglass figure. HTâs wife got torn open and is now as worthless as tiits on a nun. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted October 9, 2019 12 hours ago, IGotWorms said: Well I reckon they do since they went ahead and did it That I posted the question should have given you pause to look into it a bit deeper. Anyway, I'm issuing a subpoena to you on the authority of the Geek Club and if you don't show up I'm going to hold you in contempt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted October 9, 2019 If the Democrats spent 1/10th the amount of energy they do on Trump with actually trying to make America better for their constituents they represent in Congress, itâd be nice to see.  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Just stop. Shokin was fired due to people lying about him. These same people came back and apologized for it. https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/09/26/report-hundreds-of-documents-conflict-with-joe-bidens-account-of-why-ukrainian-prosecutor-was-fired/ The Hillâs John Solomon is reporting that the documents â many from the American legal team that helped the company, Burisma Holdings, try to stave off its legal troubles â raise the âtroubling prospectâ that U.S. officials may have âpainted a false picture in Ukraine that helped âease Burismaâs legal troubles and stop prosecutorsâ plans to interviewâ Bidenâs son Hunter during the 2016 presidential elections. Solomon reported that, for instance, an official Ukrainian government memo shows that Burismaâs American legal representatives met with Ukrainian officials just days after Biden forced the firing of the chief prosecutor and offered âan apology for dissemination of false information by U.S. representatives and public figuresâ about Ukrainian prosecutors. In other words â the company that employed Bidenâs son apologized to the Ukrainian government after the firing of the chief prosecutor for the âU.S. representatives and public figuresâ actions or remarks. Solomon also reported that Burismaâs American team offered to introduce Ukrainian prosecutors to Obama administration officials to make amends, according to the Ukrainian government memo and Burismaâs American legal teamâs internal memos. According to Solomon, the memos raise the following âtroubling questionsâ: 1) If the Ukraine prosecutorâs firing involved only his alleged corruption and ineptitude, why did Burismaâs American legal team refer to those allegations as âfalse information?â 2) If the firing had nothing to do with the Burisma case, as Biden has adamantly claimed, why would Burismaâs American lawyers contact the replacement prosecutor within hours of the termination and urgently seek a meeting in Ukraine to discuss the case? Solomon reported that in a ânewly sworn affidavit prepared for a European court,â Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin testified that when he was fired in March 2016, he was told the reason was that Biden was unhappy about the Burisma investigation. âThe truth is that I was forced out because I was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma Holdings, a natural gas firm active in Ukraine and Joe Bidenâs son, Hunter Biden, was a member of the Board of Directors,â Shokin testified, according to Solomon.  Stop reading Breitbart and and Gateway Pundit for your news sources. The entire world is not out to get Trump. Thatâs just a super convenient narrative for him to use to excuse all his crap away. Face the facts. Trump has always been a shitty human being. Becoming president, didnât magically transform him into the savior of the USA. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, KSB2424 said: If the Democrats spent 1/10th the amount of energy they do on Trump with actually trying to make America better for their constituents they represent in Congress, itâd be nice to see.  100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted October 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, MDC said: My wife is tall, slender and has an hourglass figure. HTâs wife got torn open and is now as worthless as tiits on a nun.  She should be in the circus. Lol. ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, OldMaid said: You do know that a change to the form didnât change the law, right? The law has always been that first hand knowledge is not necessary. It states clearly in the article, that the changes to the forms were to clear up that misconception.  The form always said the IG CANNOT process a complaint with second hand knowledge, now it doesn't. Who is being duped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted October 9, 2019 Iâm just a schmuck in an office behind a keyboard.  But here are...... Things I donât know:  All the âImpeachmentâ laws, inâs and outâs yada yada.  Things I do know:  The Ukraine President said there was no pressure to do anything.  Current Libs will do anything, I mean anything to undermine the current POTUS. So here I sit with my hands up, thinking that there is an election just 13 months away. Let America speak then.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites