Official President Trump Impeachment Inquiry Thread

[TimmySmith 2,782]

9 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

You guys are arguing with people who deny even the most basic of facts.   Your time would be better spent explaining quantum physics to the Mad Hatter.  

We know. All we have are 2 facts.  The Vice President bragging about shaking down a government to bail out his son.  And the President asking the leader to look into it. They just refuse to acknowledge the facts.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

12 hours ago, OldMaid said:

Just stop.

Shokin was fired because he wasn’t investigating Burisma, not the other way around. 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-happened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/

Just stop.

Shokin was fired due to people lying about him. These same people came back and apologized for it.

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/09/26/report-hundreds-of-documents-conflict-with-joe-bidens-account-of-why-ukrainian-prosecutor-was-fired/

The Hill‘s John Solomon is reporting that the documents — many from the American legal team that helped the company, Burisma Holdings, try to stave off its legal troubles — raise the “troubling prospect” that U.S. officials  may have “painted a false picture in Ukraine that helped “ease Burisma’s legal troubles and stop prosecutors’ plans to interview” Biden’s son Hunter during the 2016 presidential elections.

Solomon reported that, for instance, an official Ukrainian government memo shows that Burisma’s American legal representatives met with Ukrainian officials just days after Biden forced the firing of the chief prosecutor and offered “an apology for dissemination of false information by U.S. representatives and public figures” about Ukrainian prosecutors.

In other words — the company that employed Biden’s son apologized to the Ukrainian government after the firing of the chief prosecutor for the “U.S. representatives and public figures” actions or remarks.

Solomon also reported that Burisma’s American team offered to introduce Ukrainian prosecutors to Obama administration officials to make amends, according to the Ukrainian government memo and Burisma’s American legal team’s internal memos.

According to Solomon, the memos raise the following “troubling questions”:

1) If the Ukraine prosecutor’s firing involved only his alleged corruption and ineptitude, why did Burisma’s American legal team refer to those allegations as “false information?”

2) If the firing had nothing to do with the Burisma case, as Biden has adamantly claimed, why would Burisma’s American lawyers contact the replacement prosecutor within hours of the termination and urgently seek a meeting in Ukraine to discuss the case?

Solomon reported that in a “newly sworn affidavit prepared for a European court,” Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin testified that when he was fired in March 2016, he was told the reason was that Biden was unhappy about the Burisma investigation.

“The truth is that I was forced out because I was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma Holdings, a natural gas firm active in Ukraine and Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, was a member of the Board of Directors,” Shokin testified, according to Solomon.

 

[The Observer 641]

So Trump and his team sent a letter to Pelosi saying they will not participate in the impeachment probe.  lol  Why didn't Nixon and Clinton think of that? And criminals awaiting trial? Brilliant!!  

Definitely the actions of an innocent man.  

[MDC 7,505]

3 minutes ago, The Observer said:

So Trump and his team sent a letter to Pelosi saying they will not participate in the impeachment probe.  lol  Why didn't Nixon and Clinton think of that? And criminals awaiting trial? Brilliant!!  

Definitely the actions of an innocent man.  

I need to hear what Brightbart or Conservative Sandbox thinks of this.

[The Observer 641]

Uhh, Trump, you can't just decline to participate in an impeachment. This isn't Vietnam #bonespurs

-Trevor Noah 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

selfie thinks Trump is on trial.      

 

We all appreciate the comic relief.  

[sderk 1,040]

6 minutes ago, The Observer said:

So Trump and his team sent a letter to Pelosi saying they will not participate in the impeachment probe.  lol  Why didn't Nixon and Clinton think of that? And criminals awaiting trial? Brilliant!!  

Definitely the actions of an innocent man.  

Maybe it's just the actions of a busy man who is sick of being hounded on false accusations for years from leftists who care more about getting power back than getting anything done in this country. 

 

[The Observer 641]

Just now, sderk said:

Maybe it's just the actions of a busy man who is sick of being hounded on false accusations for years from leftists who care more about getting power back than getting anything done in this country. 

 

Yeah, maybe,.  Thank God he's never gone so far as to get a BJ, amirite?  Now THAT is worth an impeachment.  

Oh, and busy?  Busy?  The guy has golfed almost 300 days.  And he spends half of the other days watching Fox and Friends. He's the least bust president the country has ever had.

[sderk 1,040]

1 minute ago, The Observer said:

Yeah, maybe,.  Thank God he's never gone so far as to get a BJ, amirite?  Now THAT is worth an impeachment.  

Oh, and busy?  Busy?  The guy has golfed almost 300 days.  And he spends half of the other days watching Fox and Friends. He's the least bust president the country has ever had.

keep trying. Someday you are bound to getting something right if even out of luck.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Someone tell Trevor that Trump isn't currently being impeached.    I guess his shtick relies on his audience being uninformed.  

[The Observer 641]

2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Someone tell Trevor that Trump isn't currently being impeached.    I guess his shtick relies on his audience being uninformed.  

ROFL     Semantics   When you have nothing else to rely on, word play is a great fall back. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

17 minutes ago, sderk said:

Maybe it's just the actions of a busy man who is sick of being hounded on false accusations for years from leftists who care more about getting power back than getting anything done in this country. 

 

Busy?  Now that's funny.  Unless, of course, tweeting and golfing count towards that.  He's busy nonstop then.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

ROFL     Semantics   When you have nothing else to rely on, word play is a great fall back. 

  The facts become semantics when you lose.  It's what you got.    And, don't forget to alert us when the subpoenas go out.  I know, requests/subpoenas, same thing, it's just semantics.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

Free health care and education  for illegals and an open border. That should work. 

[lickin_starfish 1,942]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Free health care and education  for illegals and an open border. That should work. 

Don't forget gun confiscation, so we can't defend ourselves from the criminals who will be let out of prison.

[avoiding injuries 1,595]

16 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Busy?  Now that's funny.  Unless, of course, tweeting and golfing count towards that.  He's busy nonstop then.

C’mon man. Pick your fights better. You lose credibility with stuff like this. I welcome your differing opinion, but be genuine with it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

2 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

Don't forget gun confiscation, so we can't defend ourselves from the criminals who will be let out of prison.

Oh that's right, that's the new one: Abolish prisons. What a great deal  for an illegal who kills an American citizen (they do it a lot). 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 minute ago, avoiding injuries said:

C’mon man. Pick your fights better. You lose credibility with stuff like this. I welcome your differing opinion, but be genuine with it. 

Those posts are a standing 8 count.  They are constant since selfie reappeared.  

[The Observer 641]

2 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

C’mon man. Pick your fights better. You lose credibility with stuff like this. I welcome your differing opinion, but be genuine with it. 

Please enlighten us on how 'busy' this president is.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

2 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

C’mon man. Pick your fights better. You lose credibility with stuff like this. I welcome your differing opinion, but be genuine with it. 

What's not genuine about what I said?  Trump does himself zero favors with how much time he spends tweeting.  What the hell kind of President tweets as much as our current President.  What other President spent more time at his own properties?  The amount of time he spends on his phone is the one thing I've seen everyone agree on that they dislike about the President.  Even his biggest supporters admit they wish he would stop doing it and focus on doing his job.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

8 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

Don't forget gun confiscation, so we can't defend ourselves from the criminals who will be let out of prison.

Are you honestly concerned about your guns being confiscated if a democrat becomes President?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Are you honestly concerned about your guns being confiscated if a democrat becomes President?

Depends what kind of gun you own. Every candidate has said they are confiscating certain types of weapons. Did you miss all that? 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Depends what kind of gun you own. Every candidate has said they are confiscating certain types of weapons. Did you miss all that? 

I did not miss that.  Those are just talking points, which most likely will never happen.  Even if that did happen, we're talking about specific guns and not all guns.  That would mean we still keep our right to bear arms and protect ourselves.  I'm not concerned one bit about losing any of my guns, it will never happen.

[MDC 7,505]

Didn’t Hardcuck say we should ban some automatic weapons like a month ago? That dude is a human weathervane.

[drobeski 3,061]

So the facts that are know known to date..

Trump favor request was explicitly regarded the 2016 Russian collusion scam. The transcript verifies this. 

The Ukraine president has publicly stated he wasnt pressured.

An anonymous CIA agent who not only supports but works for a 2020 candidate filed a 3rd hand whistleblower complaint. The rules for whistleblower needed changed to make this phony rat a qualified whistleblower.  

This so called whistleblower went to team Schiff with his concerns prior to going to the IG , thus technically disqualifying him as a whistleblower.  

The first whistleblower set up has been exposed to be a fraud, so now we have a second so called  whistleblower.  

Did I miss anything ?

[Mike Honcho 5,297]

4 minutes ago, drobeski said:

So the facts that are know known to date..

Trump favor request was explicitly regarded the 2016 Russian collusion scam. The transcript verifies this. 

The Ukraine president has publicly stated he wasnt pressured.

An anonymous CIA agent who not only supports but works for a 2020 candidate filed a 3rd hand whistleblower complaint. The rules for whistleblower needed changed to make this phony rat a qualified whistleblower.  

This so called whistleblower went to team Schiff with his concerns prior to going to the IG , thus technically disqualifying him as a whistleblower.  

The first whistleblower set up has been exposed to be a fraud, so now we have a second so called  whistleblower.  

Did I miss anything ?

Just the facts and truth, your usual.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

16 minutes ago, MDC said:

Didn’t Hardcuck say we should ban some automatic weapons like a month ago? That dude is a human weathervane.

Automatic weapons shouid continue to be banned. What's your point? 

[fandandy 3,313]

4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Just the facts and truth, your usual.  

Where's the It's Wednesday, let's not argue about politics Thread?

Slacker.  

[MDC 7,505]

Hardcuck also thought Clinton was the best POTUS of our lifetime and Obungler was better than Reagan 2 years ago. Can you imagine being 50+ years old and having such waffling flimsy convictions about everything?

Sad.

[The Observer 641]

8 minutes ago, drobeski said:

So the facts that are know known to date..

Trump favor request was explicitly regarded the 2016 Russian collusion scam. The transcript verifies this. - LOL 

The Ukraine president has publicly stated he wasnt pressured.- You mean the STILL Ukraine President who desperately needs Trump to sell him weapons?  Shocking!

An anonymous CIA agent who not only supports but works for a 2020 candidate filed a 3rd hand whistleblower complaint. The rules for whistleblower needed changed to make this phony rat a qualified whistleblower.  - Whistleblower(s) is irrelevant now that Trump admitted to the crimes

This so called whistleblower went to team Schiff with his concerns prior to going to the IG , thus technically disqualifying him as a whistleblower. -Again. Irrelevant.

The first whistleblower set up has been exposed to be a fraud, so now we have a second so called  whistleblower.  - Still doesn't dismiss the phone call transcript (what Trump allowed to be seen, anyway) or him asking China for help investigating a political rival

Did I miss anything ?   Yeah, Trump now has announced he has decided not to cooperate at all with the impeachment investigation.  An obviously innocent man, LOL

Answered

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

4 minutes ago, MDC said:

Hardcuck also thought Clinton was the best POTUS of our lifetime and Obungler was better than Reagan 2 years ago. Can you imagine being 50+ years old and having such waffling flimsy convictions about everything?

Sad.

Nothing like the transformation from tall and slender to hourglass. That belongs in Ripleys believe it or not!  Lol. 

[OldMaid 2,130]

3 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

"This did change as part of a review that was already going on before Mr Trump called the Ukrainian leader, according to a statement from the Office of the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community."

I've posted this before and I'll post it again; https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/intel-community-inspector-general-stonewalls-congress-refuses-to-explain-why-he-backdated-secret-changes-to-whistleblower-form/

The article you posted cited 'according to a statement from the Office of the Inspector General of the Intel Comm'. The article I posted here in response shows that the I.C. I.G. won't answer why he back dated the change to August for a change made in September.

You along with other liberals conveniently look past the obvious reason the I.C.I.G. would backdate a change to prior to the whistleblower's complaint.

You do know that a change to the form didn’t change the law, right? The law has always been that first hand knowledge is not necessary. It states clearly in the article, that the changes to the forms were to clear up that misconception. 

Stop reading conspiracy sites... 

[MDC 7,505]

My wife is tall, slender and has an hourglass figure.

HT’s wife got torn open and is now as worthless as tiits on a nun.

 

[Casual Observer 597]

12 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Well I reckon they do since they went ahead and did it

That I posted the question should have given you pause to look into it a bit deeper.  Anyway, I'm issuing a subpoena to you on the authority of the Geek Club and if you don't show up I'm going to hold you in contempt.

[KSB2424 3,148]

If the Democrats spent 1/10th the amount of energy they do on Trump with actually trying to make America better for their constituents they represent in Congress, it’d be nice to see.  

[OldMaid 2,130]

1 hour ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Just stop.

Shokin was fired due to people lying about him. These same people came back and apologized for it.

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/09/26/report-hundreds-of-documents-conflict-with-joe-bidens-account-of-why-ukrainian-prosecutor-was-fired/

The Hill‘s John Solomon is reporting that the documents — many from the American legal team that helped the company, Burisma Holdings, try to stave off its legal troubles — raise the “troubling prospect” that U.S. officials  may have “painted a false picture in Ukraine that helped “ease Burisma’s legal troubles and stop prosecutors’ plans to interview” Biden’s son Hunter during the 2016 presidential elections.

Solomon reported that, for instance, an official Ukrainian government memo shows that Burisma’s American legal representatives met with Ukrainian officials just days after Biden forced the firing of the chief prosecutor and offered “an apology for dissemination of false information by U.S. representatives and public figures” about Ukrainian prosecutors.

In other words — the company that employed Biden’s son apologized to the Ukrainian government after the firing of the chief prosecutor for the “U.S. representatives and public figures” actions or remarks.

Solomon also reported that Burisma’s American team offered to introduce Ukrainian prosecutors to Obama administration officials to make amends, according to the Ukrainian government memo and Burisma’s American legal team’s internal memos.

According to Solomon, the memos raise the following “troubling questions”:

1) If the Ukraine prosecutor’s firing involved only his alleged corruption and ineptitude, why did Burisma’s American legal team refer to those allegations as “false information?”

2) If the firing had nothing to do with the Burisma case, as Biden has adamantly claimed, why would Burisma’s American lawyers contact the replacement prosecutor within hours of the termination and urgently seek a meeting in Ukraine to discuss the case?

Solomon reported that in a “newly sworn affidavit prepared for a European court,” Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin testified that when he was fired in March 2016, he was told the reason was that Biden was unhappy about the Burisma investigation.

“The truth is that I was forced out because I was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma Holdings, a natural gas firm active in Ukraine and Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, was a member of the Board of Directors,” Shokin testified, according to Solomon.

 

Stop reading Breitbart and and Gateway Pundit for your news sources. The entire world is not out to get Trump. That’s just a super convenient narrative for him to use to excuse all his crap away.

Face the facts. Trump has always been a shitty human being. Becoming president, didn’t magically transform him into the savior of the USA.

[Gladiators 1,995]

Just now, KSB2424 said:

If the Democrats spent 1/10th the amount of energy they do on Trump with actually trying to make America better for their constituents they represent in Congress, it’d be nice to see.  

100%

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

9 minutes ago, MDC said:

My wife is tall, slender and has an hourglass figure.

HT’s wife got torn open and is now as worthless as tiits on a nun.

 

She should be in the circus. Lol. ! 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

14 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

You do know that a change to the form didn’t change the law, right? The law has always been that first hand knowledge is not necessary. It states clearly in the article, that the changes to the forms were to clear up that misconception.  

The form always said the IG CANNOT process a complaint with second hand knowledge, now it doesn't.  Who is being duped. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

I’m just a schmuck in an office behind a keyboard.  But here are......

Things I don’t know:   All the “Impeachment” laws, in’s and out’s yada yada.  

Things I do know:  The Ukraine President said there was no pressure to do anything.   Current Libs will do anything, I mean anything to undermine the current POTUS. 

So here I sit with my hands up, thinking that there is an election just 13 months away. Let America speak then.