Coronavirus - Doomsday

[nobody 2,691]

So anyway.  The point was that dogocws is saying everyone should sacrifice to save all of these covid deaths because it serves the greater good.   I said the greater good is actually served by culling the herd and not tanking the economy.  He couldn't answer to that so he quoted a graph implying that healthy young people were dropping dead in the streets from covid.  

We now all agree that's bullshìt.  Anyone care to address the point that the sacrifices are being made by the wrong people?

[TimHauck 2,908]

8 minutes ago, nobody said:

So anyway.  The point was that dogocws is saying everyone should sacrifice to save all of these covid deaths because it serves the greater good.   I said the greater good is actually served by culling the herd and not tanking the economy.  He couldn't answer to that so he quoted a graph implying that healthy young people were dropping dead in the streets from covid.  

We now all agree that's bullshìt.  Anyone care to address the point that the sacrifices are being made by the wrong people?

lol wut

I posted the graph he quoted.  The point was that covid is worse than flu, not that "healthy young people were dropping dead in the streets from covid"

I mean many would argue it wouldn't have been "for the greater good" if like 2 million people died, even if they were all old and/or unhealthy.   And if it spread more/faster it would have likely resulted in more of those young and healthy people dying too.

[lod001 1,344]

Well, at least you thought the vaccine was gonna save ya.   Oops. 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/virus-variants-found-deadlier-more-195212553.html

Antibodies induced by the Moderna Inc and Pfizer Inc/BioNTech SE vaccines are dramatically less effective at neutralizing some of the most worrying coronavirus variants, a new study suggests.

Give it another 6 months to a year and the experimental crap any of you had injected into your body will be doing no good. Get back in line you lemming, more shots = more $ for drug companies.

The coronavirus variant first identified in the UK, known as B.1.1.7, is deadlier than other variants circulating there, a new study appears to confirm. Researchers analyzed data on 184,786 people in England diagnosed with COVID-19 between mid-November and mid-January, including 867 who died. 

Fockin thing is so deadly that 0.46% of the unhealthy & fatties died.

[dogcows 1,030]

2 hours ago, nobody said:

So anyway.  The point was that dogocws is saying everyone should sacrifice to save all of these covid deaths because it serves the greater good.   I said the greater good is actually served by culling the herd and not tanking the economy.  He couldn't answer to that so he quoted a graph implying that healthy young people were dropping dead in the streets from covid.  

We now all agree that's bullshìt.  Anyone care to address the point that the sacrifices are being made by the wrong people?

Wearing a mask is a greater sacrifice than death? Typical Gen Z-ers and their entitled attitudes. When ya get old you might look at things differently...

[Fireballer 2,642]

 

[nobody 2,691]

3 hours ago, dogcows said:

Wearing a mask is a greater sacrifice than death? Typical Gen Z-ers and their entitled attitudes. When ya get old you might look at things differently...

20 million people being out of work, tens of thousands of bankruptcies, and 5 trillion piled on the national debt is a bigger negative than a million people on social security dying.

[nobody 2,691]

Shìt if we just let millions of retirees die, we could've made SS solvent again.  Too bad they were too selfish to make that sacrifice.  A large swath of the population had to ruin their lives to give them an extra 2 years.

[KSB2424 3,148]

I love nobody

[TimHauck 2,908]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

20 million people being out of work, tens of thousands of bankruptcies, and 5 trillion piled on the national debt is a bigger negative than a million people on social security dying.

A lot of those things would have happened regardless of what the government did if a decent chunk of people didn't want to catch or spread covid though.   And the more people that died, the more that would be true.   

Again I've said I didn't agree with all of the restrictions.   I just don't think the economy would have fared that much better regardless of what we did (or didn't do).  Even Sweden took a big hit to GDP and saw a significant increase in unemployment in Q2.   Although it was better than some of the other European countries, its immediate neighbors Finland and Norway fared similarly despite having lockdowns and far fewer covid cases & deaths

[Reality 3,121]

Well, duh.

It's nothing short of incredible what we let the Government get away with this past year.

[TimHauck 2,908]

2 hours ago, Reality said:

Well, duh.

It's nothing short of incredible what we let the Government get away with this past year.

What are you getting at?  This has been the prevailing consensus for awhile now.  

I think the question is how much more than 6 months is it...

[SUXBNME 1,516]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

What are you getting at?  This has been the prevailing consensus for awhile now.  

I think the question is how much more than 6 months is it...

Your prevailing consensus is ghey.  Much like your mom and your wife.  (not that there is anything wrong with that)

Seriously, tho...Are you buying into everything Fauci is saying? Not that what I just posted prolly has nothing to do with the topic being discussed, I just wanted my voice to be heard .
 

Carry on.   sorry

[TimHauck 2,908]

6 hours ago, SUXBNME said:

Your prevailing consensus is ghey.  Much like your mom and your wife.  (not that there is anything wrong with that)

Seriously, tho...Are you buying into everything Fauci is saying? Not that what I just posted prolly has nothing to do with the topic being discussed, I just wanted my voice to be heard .
 

Carry on.   sorry

No I don’t buy into everything Fauci says, he’s certainly had his fair share of being wrong.

I’m just not sure what Reality10 was getting at.  Implying that those that have had covid probably don’t need the vaccine within 6 months?  I’d probably agree with that if that’s the argument.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No I don’t buy into everything Fauci says, he’s certainly had his fair share of being wrong.

I’m just not sure what Reality10 was getting at.  Implying that those that have had covid probably don’t need the vaccine within 6 months?  I’d probably agree with that if that’s the argument.

The study period was done 6 months after infection and people are reporting 6 months like its a magic date. Including you. 

[Reality 3,121]

9 hours ago, TimHauck said:

What are you getting at?  This has been the prevailing consensus for awhile now.  

I think the question is how much more than 6 months is it...

Sorry, I don't normally read your posts. 

What an absurd statement, no, we haven't treated this virus like folks who had it are immune for at least 6 months.  We've ruined people's livelihood by not treating it that way.  

[TimHauck 2,908]

35 minutes ago, Reality said:

Sorry, I don't normally read your posts. 

What an absurd statement, no, we haven't treated this virus like folks who had it are immune for at least 6 months.  We've ruined people's livelihood by not treating it that way.  

What could have been done much differently based on that information though?   Give people cards to say that they've already had it?  I'm sure something like that would have been met with complaints of communism.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,507]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

What could have been done much differently based on that information though?   Give people cards to say that they've already had it?  I'm sure something like that would have been met with complaints of communism.

The people at risk, who were identified very early in this process, shouid have been the ones quarantined , not everyone else. Once that curve got flattened things should have opened up with safety precautions in place. How’s that? 

[Reality 3,121]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The people at risk, who were identified very early in this process, shouid have been the ones quarantined , not everyone else. Once that curve got flattened things should have opened up with safety precautions in place. How’s that? 

Right. 

[TimHauck 2,908]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The people at risk, who were identified very early in this process, shouid have been the ones quarantined , not everyone else. Once that curve got flattened things should have opened up with safety precautions in place. How’s that? 

 

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Right. 

That doesn't really have anything to do with people not being able to catch it again for 6+ months...

For much of this country, the "lockdown" was only about 6-8 weeks (when we didn't have as much information on the risks to younger people, we just knew older people were dying the most), and then "things started opening up with safety precautions in place."  I've said multiple times that I agree that some of the more stricter measures that some places put in probably were not necessary.

[TimHauck 2,908]

3 hours ago, TimmySmith said:

The study period was done 6 months after infection and people are reporting 6 months like its a magic date. Including you. 

Uh, no I didn't:

11 hours ago, TimHauck said:

What are you getting at?  This has been the prevailing consensus for awhile now.  

I think the question is how much more than 6 months is it...

 

[Fireballer 2,642]

Big news...3 ft social distancing for schools to help re-opening. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

19 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Big news...3 ft social distancing for schools to help re-opening. 

The thing is, you can sneeze and droplets go up to 14 feet.

They just make shit up as they go to fit whatever narrative is going on.  

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

Good to know that a bunch of vaccines went to the homeless: https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2021/03/18/sacramento-homeless-johnson-and-johnson-vaccines/?fbclid=IwAR3oBd0DLdLnIk5Jb5IWzRHzLGhUKfavIoPTi2r-_FG3s5-M7ixH3qmHrVg

 

Meanwhile, I will get mine in 2030. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Good to know that a bunch of vaccines went to the homeless: https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2021/03/18/sacramento-homeless-johnson-and-johnson-vaccines/?fbclid=IwAR3oBd0DLdLnIk5Jb5IWzRHzLGhUKfavIoPTi2r-_FG3s5-M7ixH3qmHrVg

 

Meanwhile, I will get mine in 2030. 

 

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Get Your COVID-19 Vaccine

Wake County Public Health encourages ALL of the following to join our vaccine request list:

• Group 4: People with high-risk medical conditions, people experiencing homelessness or those incarcerated
• Group 3: In-person frontline essential workers, including school/child care workers
• Group 2: People 65 and older
• Group 1: People in health care settings with in-person patient contact

 

 

My county in North Carolina.  I'll be like group 12 after the illegal immigrants.

[Strike 5,585]

4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

For much of this country, the "lockdown" was only about 6-8 weeks (when we didn't have as much information on the risks to younger people, we just knew older people were dying the most), and then "things started opening up with safety precautions in place."  I've said multiple times that I agree that some of the more stricter measures that some places put in probably were not necessary.

What are you, nuts?  Our SECOND lockdown was longer than that.  Come on dude.

[edjr 6,608]

Gubnah Charlie Parkah of Maskachusetts said in May 2020 "When the Vaccine is released, we will be at the New Normal"

If this is the new normal, we focked.

[Utilit99 4,099]

3 minutes ago, edjr said:

Gubnah Charlie Parkah of Maskachusetts said in May 2020 "When the Vaccine is released, we will be at the New Normal"

If this is the new normal, we focked.

The new creepy joe normal is what they mean.

[TimHauck 2,908]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

What are you, nuts?  Our SECOND lockdown was longer than that.  Come on dude.

Who's our?  Like 80% of the country never had a second lockdown.

[TimHauck 2,908]

9 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

 

 

My county in North Carolina.  I'll be like group 12 after the illegal immigrants.

Serious question...what's your BMI?   Overweight by BMI (over 70% of the country as discussed previously) qualifies you for group 4 in NC

[Strike 5,585]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Who's our?  Like 80% of the country never had a second lockdown.

Tell that to all the restaurants in CO.  Are you retarded?

[TimHauck 2,908]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Are you retarded?

No.  Limiting restaurants to 50% capacity is not a lockdown.

[Strike 5,585]

Just now, TimHauck said:

No.  Limiting restaurants to 50% capacity is not a lockdown.

Shutting them down is.   You're wrong on this one.  I'm sure, like all the other times you've been wrong, you won't admit it.  But you should.  Saying 80% of this country didn't have a 2nd lockdown is one of your dumber statements, and that's saying A LOT!!!

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, TimHauck said:

No.  Limiting restaurants to 50% capacity is not a lockdown.

It is a lockdown. Restaurants are struggling if not already out of business. People need to get out and do things without the government telling them to just deal with it.

[Strike 5,585]

3 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

It is a lockdown. Restaurants are struggling if not already out of business. People need to get out and do things without the government telling them to just deal with it.

Most places shut them down entirely late last year.  Our restaurants just reopened about a month or month and a half ago, from the SECOND lockdown that Timmy is trying to tell me didn't exist.  Heck, our restaurants are STILL at 50% capacity. 

[edjr 6,608]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No.  Limiting restaurants to 50% capacity is not a lockdown.

    TimHack

[Reality 3,121]

18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No.  Limiting restaurants to 50% capacity is not a lockdown.

This guy. This shlt is ruining people's livelihood and these are the types of responses we get from this dude. What a focking clown.

 

[TimHauck 2,908]

26 minutes ago, Strike said:

Shutting them down is.   You're wrong on this one.  I'm sure, like all the other times you've been wrong, you won't admit it.  But you should.  Saying 80% of this country didn't have a 2nd lockdown is one of your dumber statements, and that's saying A LOT!!!

How many states/cities shut it down?   Maybe the 80% was high but I'd still bet it was less than 50% (that shut down)

[TimHauck 2,908]

3 minutes ago, Reality said:

This guy. This shlt is ruining people's livelihood and these are the types of responses we get from this dude. What a focking clown.

 

I dunno, pretty much every restaurant in my area (that I believe is still limited to 50% capacity) has "Now hiring" signs up.  Seems like many are doing OK.

[KSB2424 3,148]

4 minutes ago, Reality said:

This guy. This shlt is ruining people's livelihood and these are the types of responses we get from this dude. What a focking clown.

 

Completely out of touch.

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

28 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No.  Limiting restaurants to 50% capacity is not a lockdown.

LOL. 

CA went through a second lockdown that is STILL GOING. Some of our kids haven't even gone back to school yet; literally out of school for a YEAR.