TimHauck 2,931 Posted May 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: I see like 4 or 5 people who may br over 60.  I see a lot of dudes in their 30s.  I said 50.  And what makes you think less than 38% of the people in their 30’s are vaccinated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,871 Posted May 25, 2021 Some of you phags really need to stay in the basement with your face diapers. Clowns 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,853 Posted May 25, 2021 18 hours ago, Fireballer said: OMB was right about this fuker the whole time.   Interesting, I hadn’t realized that he spoke out so strongly against the virus coming from the Wuhan lab.  When he lied about masks last year, at least he had the Machiavellian excuse that he was trying to save PPE for the first responders and medical folks.  What is this excuse?  Oh yeah, he helped to fund “gain of function” research in Wuhan, the very type of research that could generate this pandemic. And lookie here, I didn’t see it posted yet so I apologize if it was, but 3 folks from the Wuhan lab sought hospital care before the outbreak was disclosed. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/wuhan-lab-staff-sought-hospital-care-before-covid-19-outbreak-disclosed-wsj-2021-05-23/ Quote Three researchers from China's Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) sought hospital care in November 2019, a month before China reported the first cases of COVID-19, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday, citing a U.S. intelligence report. The newspaper said the previously undisclosed report - which provides fresh details on the number of researchers affected, the timing of their illnesses, and their hospital visits - may add weight to calls for a broader investigation into whether the COVID-19 virus could have escaped from the laboratory. The Journal said current and former officials familiar with the intelligence expressed a range of views about the strength of the report's supporting evidence, with one unnamed person saying it needed "further investigation and additional corroboration." The first cases of what would eventually be known as COVID-19 were reported at the end of December 2019 in the central Chinese city of Wuhan, where the advanced laboratory specialising in coronavirus research is located.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Interesting, I hadn’t realized that he spoke out so strongly against the virus coming from the Wuhan lab.  When he lied about masks last year, at least he had the Machiavellian excuse that he was trying to save PPE for the first responders and medical folks.  What is this excuse?  Oh yeah, he helped to fund “gain of function” research in Wuhan, the very type of research that could generate this pandemic. And lookie here, I didn’t see it posted yet so I apologize if it was, but 3 folks from the Wuhan lab sought hospital care before the outbreak was disclosed. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/wuhan-lab-staff-sought-hospital-care-before-covid-19-outbreak-disclosed-wsj-2021-05-23/  I guess science is a strong believer in coincidence. The lib don't find it the least bit interesting that while science cannot identify the root cause, they can certainly rule out a lab that was openly engaged in that exact type of research, in the very area where it was first identified. Fauci is a paid off hack and the libs should be ashamed of themselves for making a deity out of him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,931 Posted May 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: I guess science is a strong believer in coincidence. The lib don't find it the least bit interesting that while science cannot identify the root cause, they can certainly rule out a lab that was openly engaged in that exact type of research, in the very area where it was first identified. Fauci is a paid off hack and the libs should be ashamed of themselves for making a deity out of him. I'm not a lib, I believe it came from the lab (accidentally) which I've said for months is believable, and I'm not a huge fan of Fauci. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted May 25, 2021 Anyone who is not watching the WarRoom with Steve Bannon needs to start. They have been talking about this escaping from the lab in Wuhan since January 2020. https://rumble.com/c/BannonsWarRoom  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted May 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I'm not a lib, I believe it came from the lab (accidentally) which I've said for months is believable, and I'm not a huge fan of Fauci. It’s not an accident when you’re not supposed to be creating the virus in the first place. It’s a likely outcome. So stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted May 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, fandandy said: Anyone who is not watching the WarRoom with Steve Bannon needs to start. They have been talking about this escaping from the lab in Wuhan since January 2020. https://rumble.com/c/BannonsWarRoom  How many things do the libtards have to be wrong on before people stop listening to them? I don’t expect brainless morons like Tim or I Got Cucked to, but the majority of Americans have to start keeping score at some point. OMB isn’t an excuse for their willful ignorance anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 25, 2021 47 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I'm not a lib, I believe it came from the lab (accidentally) which I've said for months is believable, and I'm not a huge fan of Fauci. Well, we are on the same page then. Libs do believe that Fauci is a god and that his numerous recants and flip-flops are part of the scientific process.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,853 Posted May 25, 2021 56 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I'm not a lib, I believe it came from the lab (accidentally) which I've said for months is believable, and I'm not a huge fan of Fauci. By “not a huge fan,” do you believe he lied in this case as well, and if so what was his motivation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted May 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Well, we are on the same page then. Libs do believe that Fauci is a god and that his numerous recants and flip-flops are part of the scientific process.  They should since they are always wrong and always on the side of stupid. The POS is our Joseph Mengele except he's focking with his own countries citizens all to make a buck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,937 Posted May 25, 2021 53 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s not an accident when you’re not supposed to be creating the virus in the first place. It’s a likely outcome. So stupid. This is slowly becoming a thing, especially with the left. "Well China didn't do it ON PURPOSE, it was an accident." Like that is somehow supposed to make me feel better.  And it doesn't.  I've already asked...Can we now officially go back to calling it the China Virus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted May 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, supermike80 said: This is slowly becoming a thing, especially with the left. "Well China didn't do it ON PURPOSE, it was an accident." Like that is somehow supposed to make me feel better.  And it doesn't.  I've already asked...Can we now officially go back to calling it the China Virus? When you drive drunk it’s your fault and not an accident. Shouldn’t have been on the road in the first place. Same here.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted May 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, supermike80 said: This is slowly becoming a thing, especially with the left. "Well China didn't do it ON PURPOSE, it was an accident." Like that is somehow supposed to make me feel better.  And it doesn't.  I've already asked...Can we now officially go back to calling it the China Virus? Wait until they figure out it was unleashed on purpose which is what I've said from day one. It's that or you believe the Chinese are that incompetent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,937 Posted May 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, lod001 said: Wait until they figure out it was unleashed on purpose which is what I've said from day one. It's that or you believe the Chinese are that incompetent. I don't know how anyone is supposed to get behind their loved one dying from this, and our government saying "Well they didn't MEAN it." Not saying our government is doing that yet, but the whole 'it wasn't on purpose' is a deliberate spin that someone put out there.  It was either our government or the liberal media.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,931 Posted May 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, jerryskids said: By “not a huge fan,” do you believe he lied in this case as well, and if so what was his motivation? I'm not sure if he intentionally lied, but I'm sure he wanted to squash the initial news of it due his department's apparent involvement in the "gain of function" research. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,931 Posted May 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, lod001 said: Wait until they figure out it was unleashed on purpose which is what I've said from day one. It's that or you believe the Chinese are that incompetent. I'm not sure why it's hard to believe that it was an accident. It's a very contagious virus, and I don't think they would intentionally sicken researchers there as jerry's earlier post suggests. If it was intentional why would they unleash it on their own city? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,601 Posted May 25, 2021 This is a good read: https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,853 Posted May 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I'm not sure why it's hard to believe that it was an accident. It's a very contagious virus, and I don't think they would intentionally sicken researchers there as jerry's earlier post suggests. If it was intentional why would they unleash it on their own city? Wait, what did I suggest?  I never said they intentionally sickened researchers.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,931 Posted May 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Wait, what did I suggest?  I never said they intentionally sickened researchers.   No you didn't. lod001 did edit: sorry I worded that sentence badly.  I meant your post suggested the researchers were sickened with covid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I'm not sure why it's hard to believe that it was an accident. It's a very contagious virus, and I don't think they would intentionally sicken researchers there as jerry's earlier post suggests. If it was intentional why would they unleash it on their own city? The "accident" of mishandling the virus in the lab seems far less likely than the "accident" of it being released during transport.  If that were true, then you have to wonder why they would be transporting it. And everyone, including you, thinks the reason that China lied about the whole wet market theory is because China lies about everything. But Fauci and our Government (except Trump) won't call China liars, so therefore they are forced to accept the lie and promote it.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,931 Posted May 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: The "accident" of mishandling the virus in the lab seems far less likely than the "accident" of it being released during transport.  If that were true, then you have to wonder why they would be transporting it. And everyone, including you, thinks the reason that China lied about the whole wet market theory is because China lies about everything. But Fauci and our Government (except Trump) won't call China liars, so therefore they are forced to accept the lie and promote it.  Sorry not sure I follow...are you saying they were transporting it to somewhere else that they were intending to release it but it got out earlier than they planned?  I don't think I've read much about it being transported. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted May 25, 2021 6 hours ago, TimHauck said: I'm not sure why it's hard to believe that it was an accident. It's a very contagious virus, and I don't think they would intentionally sicken researchers there as jerry's earlier post suggests. If it was intentional why would they unleash it on their own city?  Really? While I was saying it was unleashed as a test, the masses were buying into the bullshit that it came from a bat in the market. Now it's 'it could have been an accident'. They all come from China. Every fockin virus. THAT is no coincidence. So you are saying they are that incompetent? What that govt is, is a threat to the planet. The host on Fox news Primetime just asked Tom Cotton that question (was it unleashed on purpose). Sadly it's virtually impossible to prove. So gullible. Its communist china. You really don't think they fock with their own population? You cannot beleive anything that comes outta that place. I mean if you beleive any of this BS below, you really need help. It was all fear porn and sadly it worked.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted May 25, 2021 https://www.qt.com.au/news/chinese-defectors-shocking-virus-claim/4097902/ So pathetic - The vast majority of scientists who have studied its genetic makeup have concluded that it is naturally occurring and was passed to humans from an animal, probably a bat. These focktards are scientists? Sounds like incompetent idiots. https://www.the-sun.com/news/1474362/chinese-defector-virologist-publishes-explosive-proof-coronavirus-man-made/ Experts  More like morons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,931 Posted May 26, 2021 Cuomo going against the science by wanting plexiglass barriers in restaurants despite some studies actually finding that they made things worse -Â https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/19/nyregion/nyc-reopening-restrictions-masks-vaccines.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted May 26, 2021 https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/25/marty-makary-cdc-natural-immunity/ Like I told ya. Makary claimed that the U.S. has already achieved the 85%-benchmark, or herd immunity. However, “the most slow, reactionary, political CDC in American history” has been ignoring the fact that nearly half of the unvaccinated people are naturally immune, according to Makary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted May 26, 2021 It just keeps getting dumber. https://www.timesofisrael.com/to-beat-side-effects-israel-considers-giving-teens-just-1-covid-vaccine-dose/ I thought ya needed 2 jabs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 26, 2021 Thread, if you aren't disgusted with the media after going through this thread, you are part of the problem. Â 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,931 Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, lod001 said: https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/25/marty-makary-cdc-natural-immunity/ Like I told ya. Makary claimed that the U.S. has already achieved the 85%-benchmark, or herd immunity. However, “the most slow, reactionary, political CDC in American history” has been ignoring the fact that nearly half of the unvaccinated people are naturally immune, according to Makary. I thought your claim was that we reached herd immunity “months ago” from natural infection only?  That’s precisely NOT what Makary is saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,539 Posted May 26, 2021 So was on the news that the CDC said 10 million people in America with bad immune systems the vaccine does nothing for. I thought the vaccine was for these type people in bad health ? So it only works for the people with good immune systems that would probably get over COVID anyways ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: I thought your claim was that we reached herd immunity “months ago” from natural infection only?  That’s precisely NOT what Makary is saying.  Your brain is really focked up. Can't even comprehend the phrases below. No where in that article does your statement hold true. You read what you want to see. Makary claimed that the U.S. has already achieved the 85%-benchmark, or herd immunity the fact that nearly half of the unvaccinated people are naturally immune, according to Makary. What he says in the artivle is 'natural immunity works' so he is referring to natural immunity getting us to herd immunity. Man you are fockin dumb. All that equals that herd immunity was probably even achieved well before I said, which makes my statement 100% valid. He's not the only one. Another Dr. said herd immunity was achieved back in the fall. He's most likely correct. Since I said that we were at in months ago, I also am correct. You are not. Never have been, seems like you never will be. Makary said is a reasonable decision, because “natural immunity works.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, BeenHereBefore said: So was on the news that the CDC said 10 million people in America with bad immune systems the vaccine does nothing for. I thought the vaccine was for these type people in bad health ? So it only works for the people with good immune systems that would probably get over COVID anyways ? Ya noticed that as well, huh?  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,539 Posted May 27, 2021 51 minutes ago, lod001 said: Ya noticed that as well, huh?  Yep and that is crazy. So if they get the vaccine it is useless to them but the side effects could harm them or possibly kill them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted May 27, 2021 On 5/26/2021 at 12:31 AM, lod001 said: Wait until they figure out it was unleashed on purpose which is what I've said from day one. It's that or you believe the Chinese are that incompetent. In the long article I poster last week from the reporter who broke the story, even though it’s a safety protocol four lab, previous research done there was done at safety level two or three, presumably because the category four PPE is so hot and uncomfortable ... also, my window was installed inside out and you should see how shoddy my furniture is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,931 Posted May 27, 2021 2 hours ago, lod001 said:  Your brain is really focked up. Can't even comprehend the phrases below. No where in that article does your statement hold true. You read what you want to see. Makary claimed that the U.S. has already achieved the 85%-benchmark, or herd immunity the fact that nearly half of the unvaccinated people are naturally immune, according to Makary. What he says in the artivle is 'natural immunity works' so he is referring to natural immunity getting us to herd immunity. Man you are fockin dumb. All that equals that herd immunity was probably even achieved well before I said, which makes my statement 100% valid. He's not the only one. Another Dr. said herd immunity was achieved back in the fall. He's most likely correct. Since I said that we were at in months ago, I also am correct. You are not. Never have been, seems like you never will be. Makary said is a reasonable decision, because “natural immunity works.” I agree that natural immunity works. Here's Dr. Makary from a couple days ago: https://nypost.com/2021/05/21/risk-of-covid-is-now-very-low-its-time-to-stop-living-in-fear-doctor/ "roughly 80% to 85% of adults are now immune — more than 6 in 10 adults are now vaccinated and more than half of unvaccinated adults have natural immunity from prior infection." First off, he's only talking about adults.   While I agree that some of it is from natural infection, Makary admits that the majority of it is from vaccines. And here he is from March: https://www.newsweek.com/us-will-reach-herd-immunity-faster-anthony-fauci-says-johns-hopkins-doctor-marty-makary-1580288 "[By] April or May, we're going to start seeing gradual slowing," So he doesn't think we reached it months ago. He doesn't agree with you, sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted May 27, 2021 7 hours ago, Reality said: Thread, if you aren't disgusted with the media after going through this thread, you are part of the problem.  No doubt.  I was at home working and watched all this play out for myself.  It was jaw dropping, eye opening.  Normally, I’d be in the office and watch or read news clips and form an opinion.  In 2020 I was home watching the Covid daily briefings for myself.  Then I’d later read or watch the media narrative of it.  Wowzers.  I was red pilled.   I used to quote fact checkers on this bored, Snopes or whatever.  Those sons a biatches are worse than the media. A FACT CHECKER, shouldn’t be proved wrong time and time again.  If you don’t know the actual answer (fact) then you can’t rule on it you twat.  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,644 Posted May 28, 2021 I know we're all tired of the mask debate but.... https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v1.full-text Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,601 Posted May 28, 2021 Tim Hack's hero: https://nypost.com/2021/05/28/fauci-once-argued-viral-experiments-worth-the-risk-of-pandemic/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Strike said: Tim Hack's hero: https://nypost.com/2021/05/28/fauci-once-argued-viral-experiments-worth-the-risk-of-pandemic/ Yep. Dr. Anthony Fauci once argued that conducting experiments on contagious viruses to increase their potency was worth the risk — even if the work could accidentally lead to a pandemic, it was revealed Friday. The newly unearthed comments were made in the American Society for Microbiology in October 2012, where the nation’s chief medical adviser expressed his support for gain-of-function experiments, which focus on manipulating viruses and making them stronger, The Australian reported. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites