TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Chicago, Boston, New York, Los Angeles. All of them have put mandates in place saying nope if you don’t do as we say you are not allowed to be a member of society, you aren’t allowed to goto restaurants without jabbing your kids. Those are discriminatory lockdowns That’s not a lockdown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363 Posted December 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: That’s not a lockdown It’s the same exact sh1t we had in the beginning you can’t go into society without your papers now though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,692 Posted December 24, 2021 Money involved so now asymptomatic covid cases aren't contributing to the spread of covid. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32930584/data-shows-asymptomatic-individuals-not-spreading-covid-19-nfl-chief-medical-officer-says Covid police better step in and make sure they course correct this message in a way that makes masking up necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted December 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, nobody said: Money involved so now asymptomatic covid cases aren't contributing to the spread of covid. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32930584/data-shows-asymptomatic-individuals-not-spreading-covid-19-nfl-chief-medical-officer-says Covid police better step in and make sure they course correct this message in a way that makes masking up necessary. I saw this too. The virus sure works in mysterious ways Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted December 24, 2021 53 minutes ago, nobody said: Money involved so now asymptomatic covid cases aren't contributing to the spread of covid. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32930584/data-shows-asymptomatic-individuals-not-spreading-covid-19-nfl-chief-medical-officer-says Covid police better step in and make sure they course correct this message in a way that makes masking up necessary. Shocking how this comes out now that we're facing the very strong possibility of having to watch 3rd string QBs and practice squad castoffs during the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,874 Posted December 24, 2021 57 minutes ago, nobody said: Money involved so now asymptomatic covid cases aren't contributing to the spread of covid. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32930584/data-shows-asymptomatic-individuals-not-spreading-covid-19-nfl-chief-medical-officer-says Covid police better step in and make sure they course correct this message in a way that makes masking up necessary. So they are admitting they had no idea what they were doing and for almost the whole regular season their protocols were stupid? That or its about money. It is one of the 2. They can decide which. This is the exact stuff that has happe ed thr whole covid era that makes people think none of these people have a clue and are just making things up as they go. Meanwhile hockey shut down. That covid sure is tricky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted December 24, 2021 1 hour ago, nobody said: Money involved so now asymptomatic covid cases aren't contributing to the spread of covid. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32930584/data-shows-asymptomatic-individuals-not-spreading-covid-19-nfl-chief-medical-officer-says Covid police better step in and make sure they course correct this message in a way that makes masking up necessary. botcuck already on zoom call on how to sell this lie. It's a bigger one than normal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted December 24, 2021 1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said: So they are admitting they had no idea what they were doing and for almost the whole regular season their protocols were stupid? That or its about money. It is one of the 2. They can decide which. This is the exact stuff that has happe ed thr whole covid era that makes people think none of these people have a clue and are just making things up as they go. Meanwhile hockey shut down. That covid sure is tricky. Definitely $ wins out over fraud fauci and big pharma. Said the same earlier. I saw this stampede of infections coming. No one in the NFL is protected if the got the jab in March, 6 months would be Sept. If they got the 3rd jab, it too has worn off. No surprise they changed the rules and no surprise the media is ignoring it. Hockey is screwed because of all the teams in Canada. The psycho running that show has ruined life there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted December 24, 2021 10 fockin weeks and you are back where ya started. Total garbage. https://www.yahoo.com/news/booster-shots-protect-against-symptomatic-134222278.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,874 Posted December 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, lod001 said: 10 fockin weeks and you are back where ya started. Total garbage. https://www.yahoo.com/news/booster-shots-protect-against-symptomatic-134222278.html A year ago people would have laughed at suggesting this would happen. It would have been a conspiracy theory. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted December 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, lod001 said: 10 fockin weeks and you are back where ya started. Total garbage. https://www.yahoo.com/news/booster-shots-protect-against-symptomatic-134222278.html In other words it doesn't work at all on Omicron, but you'll never know you have it so you'll think it does. And you'll need a booster soon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,845 Posted December 24, 2021 5 hours ago, nobody said: Money involved so now asymptomatic covid cases aren't contributing to the spread of covid. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32930584/data-shows-asymptomatic-individuals-not-spreading-covid-19-nfl-chief-medical-officer-says Covid police better step in and make sure they course correct this message in a way that makes masking up necessary. Comments are interesting; that may be the first time I've seen more blue than red, and I wouldn't have expected it for this article. Usually the reds just troll the crap out of Yahoo comments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,845 Posted December 24, 2021 Check out these quotes regarding the cancellation of the Hawai'i Bowl tonight: Quote "We are disappointed our season has to end this way," coach Todd Graham said. "As competitive as we are and as much as we want to play the game, we cannot put the health and safety of our student-athletes at risk." Shortly after UH's made its decision public, Hawaii Bowl officials announced this year's game was off. The two teams were set to square off at 8 p.m. ET at the Clarence T.C. Ching Athletics Complex -- the temporary home of the Rainbow Warriors. It would have been Hawaii's 10th appearance in the Hawaii Bowl. "The health and safety of our student-athletes is the most important part of this decision," said UH athletics director David Matlin. "The recent surge in COVID-19 cases has forced us to not participate in the game. Odd that two different people used the exact same phrasing, almost like it was written for them. Also odd that they are concerned for their student athletes, who statistically have almost no concern. I mean cmon, tell me you are concerned about the 88 yr old equipment manager, at least that has merit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted December 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Check out these quotes regarding the cancellation of the Hawai'i Bowl tonight: Odd that two different people used the exact same phrasing, almost like it was written for them. Also odd that they are concerned for their student athletes, who statistically have almost no concern. I mean cmon, tell me you are concerned about the 88 yr old equipment manager, at least that has merit. They've been doing that for quite a while. 'Safe & effective.' Get vaccinated, it's your patriotic duty.' 100s of other ones over the past few years. Not sure if they are just such sheeple or if there is some sort of unwritten rule that if certain people blurt it out, then ever D and D supporter jumps on it and regurgitates the quote. There was a YouTube video of the CNN & MSNBC idiots all regurgitating the exact same phrases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 24, 2021 4 hours ago, TimmySmith said: botcuck already on zoom call on how to sell this lie. It's a bigger one than normal. No just more people who don’t understand the difference between asymptomatic and presymptomatic. All they’re saying is they traced the cases to people that ultimately had symptoms - that doesn’t mean they all spread it while they had those symptoms. Some of the quotes don’t make any sense. They said (paraphrasing) “asymptomatic people tested negative but then developed symptoms a day or two later and didn’t report them because of the earlier negative test.” Huh? If you tested negative while you had no symptoms, but then developed symptoms later, why would you assume you were still negative? Now I have heard with omicron some people are testing negative for a day or so WHILE they have symptoms, but that’s not what they’re even talking about here. Early on in the pandemic, some people were afraid that asymptomatic transmission could be significant. However, there have already been studies concluding that true asymptomatic transmission isn’t a significant driver of spread, so this claim isn’t new. Presymptomatic transmission however is more common, and this article does nothing to disprove it. And of course a person has no idea whether they are asymptomatic or presymptomatic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted December 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, TimHauck said: No just more people who don’t understand the difference between asymptomatic and presymptomatic. All they’re saying is they traced the cases to people that ultimately had symptoms - that doesn’t mean they all spread it while they had those symptoms. Some of the quotes don’t make any sense. They said (paraphrasing) “asymptomatic people tested negative but then developed symptoms a day or two later and didn’t report them because of the earlier negative test.” Huh? If you tested negative while you had no symptoms, but then developed symptoms later, why would you assume you were still negative? Now I have heard with omicron some people are testing negative for a day or so WHILE they have symptoms, but that’s not what they’re even talking about here. Early on in the pandemic, some people were afraid that asymptomatic transmission could be significant. However, there have already been studies concluding that true asymptomatic transmission isn’t a significant driver of spread, so this claim isn’t new. Presymptomatic transmission however is more common, and this article does nothing to disprove it. And of course a person has no idea whether they are asymptomatic or presymptomatic. And there it is. Did they send you a copy/paste? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 25, 2021 1 hour ago, TimmySmith said: And there it is. Did they send you a copy/paste? Feel free to dispute any of it. Merry Christmas! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,692 Posted December 25, 2021 So wear a mask until you know you have covid. Then if you're asymptomatic take the mask off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,692 Posted December 25, 2021 The NFL CMO is clearly saying asymptomatic people aren't shedding virus. So, of course, though, if you're "presymptomatic" you must be shedding virus like crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, nobody said: The NFL CMO is clearly saying asymptomatic people aren't shedding virus. So, of course, though, if you're "presymptomatic" you must be shedding virus like crazy. I don’t think we know if it’s “like crazy,” but it’s been documented across the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,692 Posted December 25, 2021 This is literally the first time in my life I've heard the term presymptomatic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted December 25, 2021 https://www.worldtribune.com/california-nurses-report-overwhelming-number-of-heart-attacks-clotting-in-vaccinated-patients/ and it's impossible that this isn't happening everywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted December 25, 2021 Seeing Tim Hack trying to give out science and medical advice is hilarious. Might as well listen to Barry Bonds give out advice on interior decorating 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted December 25, 2021 13 hours ago, TimHauck said: Feel free to dispute any of it. Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted December 25, 2021 Merry Christmas...even the Branch Covidians like this lovely lady. As Rodney said...can't we just all get along? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted December 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Merry Christmas...even the Branch Covidians like this lovely lady. As Rodney said...can't we just all get along? You’re a Karen! That’s all I needed to hear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 25, 2021 13 hours ago, nobody said: This is literally the first time in my life I've heard the term presymptomatic July 2020 - even then estimated that 48% of transmission was presymptomatic and just 3% was asymptomatic https://www.pnas.org/content/117/30/17513 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/24/2021 at 6:15 AM, TimHauck said: That’s not a lockdown look at this wacko playing semantics when he knows EXACTLY what is being talked about. TimHauck is a nazi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,692 Posted December 25, 2021 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: July 2020 - even then estimated that 48% of transmission was presymptomatic and just 3% was asymptomatic https://www.pnas.org/content/117/30/17513 Better triple those masks up then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 25, 2021 1 hour ago, nobody said: Better triple those masks up then. I mean the potential for presymptomatic (and maybe asymptomatic) spread was basically the answer when people said things like “if masks are more to protect people from the wearer, why do I need to wear one if I’m not sick?” Seriously though, if Covid only spread when people had symptoms, don’t you think we could have had less than ~100 million people in the country get it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,374 Posted December 25, 2021 https://www.yahoo.com/news/booster-shots-protect-against-symptomatic-134222278.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted December 25, 2021 So apparently I have the Covid. Been feeling like crap for a couple of days and we have these rapid tests that the state of CO is giving away so decided to take it. According to the test I have the Covid. Hopefully I'll survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,845 Posted December 25, 2021 I thought most viruses are transmitted presymptomatic, that is part of how it survives. When people feel sick they tend to self-isolate like they've done for all of time. Why are we arguing about it? Because somebody theoretically might have it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted December 25, 2021 35 minutes ago, Strike said: So apparently I have the Covid. Been feeling like crap for a couple of days and we have these rapid tests that the state of CO is giving away so decided to take it. According to the test I have the Covid. Hopefully I'll survive. Merry Christmas. https://mdmaxx.com/products/hamilton-medical-galileo-galileo-ventilator-refurbished?currency=USD&variant=39791300673727&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAiAn5uOBhADEiwA_pZwcDxaljjE1AJoaniHH2rTSmqbcpr9S0RPndhp4-XsGkOYPvauEx4zJxoC-r4QAvD_BwE 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted December 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, Strike said: So apparently I have the Covid. Been feeling like crap for a couple of days and we have these rapid tests that the state of CO is giving away so decided to take it. According to the test I have the Covid. Hopefully I'll survive. Everyone is gonna have it and its the best way to end this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: I thought most viruses are transmitted presymptomatic, that is part of how it survives. When people feel sick they tend to self-isolate like they've done for all of time. Why are we arguing about it? Because somebody theoretically might have it? Because the chief medical officer of the NFL is claiming it’s only spread by people with symptoms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted December 26, 2021 Apparently someone has used all his personal days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted December 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Apparently someone has used all his personal days. I still have 151 hours left over on the year moving into next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted December 26, 2021 In the Packer game that just finished, I love how the interviewer and interviewee social distance themselves in the post game interview on the field and then when it's done, Rodgers walks over and gives her a hug. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted December 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Strike said: So apparently I have the Covid. Been feeling like crap for a couple of days and we have these rapid tests that the state of CO is giving away so decided to take it. According to the test I have the Covid. Hopefully I'll survive. I’ll take the GT500 and make sure it’s well cared for. Did you lose your sense of smell/taste? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites