DESANTIS 2024!!! Ron DeSantis :wub:

[JustinCharge 2,397]

its still way early but if DeSantis got the nomination in 2024, the early polling data suggests that Kamala Harris would do much better than Biden.  But you have to wonder if populist Trump was not on the ticket, would blue collar voters drift back to the democratic party?

[Sean Mooney 1,184]

Depends who can get them the most lunch lady squares

[JustinCharge 2,397]

ex-nuke.

it looks like support for ukraine is going to crater, and that may have a huge impact on who wins the 2024 nomination.  where do the candidates stand?

trump: the invasion would not have happened if i was still president.  we need to broker peace asap.
desantis:  bidens fault because biden looked too weak . trump did a great job.
all other candidates:  cheering for war

and then there is tucker carlson, who is taking the lead on the issue and heavily criticizing the war and wondering where the billions of dollars are going and what is the real purpose of it all.

honestly, tucker carlson might miny himself as a presidential candidate if support for ukraine collapses and the house investigates where the cash went.

[TimHauck 1,800]

https://nypost.com/2022/12/13/desantis-donor-kent-stermon-dies-in-apparent-suicide-amid-probe-report/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site buttons&utm_campaign=site buttons
 

 

[edjr 5,564]

 

[The Real timschochet 2,937]

How soon will he announce? 

[Reality 2,710]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

How soon will he announce? 

Not soon enough.

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

If DeSantis gets elected all that will happen is Florida will go to sh!t and the federal government will be in grid lock for 4 years. Better he just stays governor where he is actually making a difference.  You guys are gonna need somewhere to retire.

[craftsman 1,045]

This country should be working on cloning. Put a DeSantis in charge of every state. 

[The Real timschochet 2,937]

7 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

If DeSantis gets elected all that will happen is Florida will go to sh!t and the federal government will be in grid lock for 4 years. Better he just stays governor where he is actually making a difference.  

Not a good difference IMO. 

[Reality 2,710]

17 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

If DeSantis gets elected all that will happen is Florida will go to sh!t and the federal government will be in grid lock for 4 years. Better he just stays governor where he is actually making a difference.  You guys are gonna need somewhere to retire.

You're not wrong.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584]

43 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Not a good difference IMO. 

jeezus are you fricken kidding?  Dude turned record number of latins red, his policy works,  why do you hate freedom?

I know Florida is so bad people are fleeing NY in record numbers to get some of that terrible state policy.  AOC couldn't wait to take her hypocrisy there

 

[The Real timschochet 2,937]

16 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

jeezus are you fricken kidding?  Dude turned record number of latins red, his policy works,  why do you hate freedom?

I know Florida is so bad people are fleeing NY in record numbers to get some of that terrible state policy.  AOC couldn't wait to take her hypocrisy there

 

People flee NY to California too. I suspect weather is a much more likely reason than politics. 
 

And you’re right, DeSantis is certainly popular. But that’s not the same as suggesting he’s been a good governor. He hasn’t. Florida is going to have a ton of problems over the next few decades dealing with climate change issues. More than most states it’s going to have to deal with the extreme weather conditions of which that last hurricane is only a small preview. The priority of the state government should be to prepare for what’s coming and he hasn’t done this. To DeSantis’ credit he did a decent job when the last hurricane hit, he displayed a level of competence at leadership that his main opponent for the Republican nomination notably lacks. But overall, IMO, he’s been dreadful. Spends way too much time attacking woke issues to make his base happy than trying to solve actual problems. 

[Reality 2,710]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

People flee NY to California too. I suspect weather is a much more likely reason than politics. 
 

And you’re right, DeSantis is certainly popular. But that’s not the same as suggesting he’s been a good governor. He hasn’t. Florida is going to have a ton of problems over the next few decades dealing with climate change issues. More than most states it’s going to have to deal with the extreme weather conditions of which that last hurricane is only a small preview. The priority of the state government should be to prepare for what’s coming and he hasn’t done this. To DeSantis’ credit he did a decent job when the last hurricane hit, he displayed a level of competence at leadership that his main opponent for the Republican nomination notably lacks. But overall, IMO, he’s been dreadful. Spends way too much time attacking woke issues to make his base happy than trying to solve actual problems. 

I like how you post really stupid responses as if they're true. It's Grade A trolling, well done sir.

[Dizkneelande 839]

Just now, Reality said:

I like how you post really stupid responses as if they're true. It's Grade A trolling, well done sir.

It’s what he does it’s a perverse illness. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,648]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

People flee NY to California too. I suspect weather is a much more likely reason than politics. 
 

And you’re right, DeSantis is certainly popular. But that’s not the same as suggesting he’s been a good governor. He hasn’t. Florida is going to have a ton of problems over the next few decades dealing with climate change issues. More than most states it’s going to have to deal with the extreme weather conditions of which that last hurricane is only a small preview. The priority of the state government should be to prepare for what’s coming and he hasn’t done this. To DeSantis’ credit he did a decent job when the last hurricane hit, he displayed a level of competence at leadership that his main opponent for the Republican nomination notably lacks. But overall, IMO, he’s been dreadful. Spends way too much time attacking woke issues to make his base happy than trying to solve actual problems. 

Woke is an actual problem.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

People flee NY to California too. I suspect weather is a much more likely reason than politics. 
 

And you’re right, DeSantis is certainly popular. But that’s not the same as suggesting he’s been a good governor. He hasn’t. Florida is going to have a ton of problems over the next few decades dealing with climate change issues. More than most states it’s going to have to deal with the extreme weather conditions of which that last hurricane is only a small preview. The priority of the state government should be to prepare for what’s coming and he hasn’t done this. To DeSantis’ credit he did a decent job when the last hurricane hit, he displayed a level of competence at leadership that his main opponent for the Republican nomination notably lacks. But overall, IMO, he’s been dreadful. Spends way too much time attacking woke issues to make his base happy than trying to solve actual problems. 

oh climate issues, got it.  Wait the most woke dumbass governor is in Cali and we have climate disasters here now

NEXT dumb statement

that thing people cant control unless you throw trillions at it

 

[Alias Detective 1,179]

Chris Sununu is the better choice.  Tell my why I am wrong.  I am wanting to hear opposition.

[The Real timschochet 2,937]

1 minute ago, Alias Detective said:

Chris Sununu is the better choice.  Tell my why I am wrong.  I am wanting to hear opposition.

I’m surprised. I agree. Sununu is the sort of Republican I and many other moderate Democrats might vote for if the Democratic candidate ended up being a Bernie type. I could never support DeSantis. 
 

However, neither Sununu nor DeSantis is a racist, and therefore I’m rather stunned you would support either of them. 

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

5 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

Chris Sununu is the better choice.  Tell my why I am wrong.  I am wanting to hear opposition.

 

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m surprised. I agree. Sununu is the sort of Republican I and many other moderate Democrats might vote for if the Democratic candidate ended up being a Bernie type. I could never support DeSantis. 
 

However, neither Sununu nor DeSantis is a racist, and therefore I’m rather stunned you would support either of them. 

That's why

[Alias Detective 1,179]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

I’m surprised. I agree. Sununu is the sort of Republican I and many other moderate Democrats might vote for if the Democratic candidate ended up being a Bernie type. I could never support DeSantis. 
 

However, neither Sununu nor DeSantis is a racist, and therefore I’m rather stunned you would support either of them. 

I believe statistics.  If any point I have made is STATISTICALLY wrong I will stand corrected.  Otherwise, I’ll continue to spew hate to all sorts of people i don’t like.  

[RLLD 3,455]

God bless Ron Desantis, its like how in the hell did someone with simple common sense and reason ever get elected? I am not sure how he pulled it off, but I am gratified that he is doing what he is doing....

[RLLD 3,455]

 

Flipping awesome....I love the way he calls out Biden and his incompetence....

[Alias Detective 1,179]

20 hours ago, iam90sbaby said:

If DeSantis gets elected all that will happen is Florida will go to sh!t and the federal government will be in grid lock for 4 years. Better he just stays governor where he is actually making a difference.  You guys are gonna need somewhere to retire.

Sununu is the answer.  Or, you want gridlock?  Your choice.

[Dizkneelande 839]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 

Flipping awesome....I love the way he calls out Biden and his incompetence....

So the coast guard. Let me repeat that for the left, the coast guard, a federal agency, called the governors office for help. The Biden admin and the diversity hire label it a political stunt by Desantis. These people have no shame. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,648]

4 hours ago, Dizkneelande said:

So the coast guard. Let me repeat that for the left, the coast guard, a federal agency, called the governors office for help. The Biden admin and the diversity hire label it a political stunt by Desantis. These people have no shame. 

She is the worst high profile government official I have ever seen at her job. I would feel sorry for her if she didn’t have such a shitty attitude. 

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

4 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

Sununu is the answer.  Or, you want gridlock?  Your choice.

It's gridlock if it's any GOP president, doesn't matter who.  If there isn't gridlock its always the Republicans bending a knee not the Democrats.

[RLLD 3,455]

4 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

Sununu is the answer.  Or, you want gridlock?  Your choice.

I want gridlock.  If congress is not passing anything, we as the people are winning. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,648]

43 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I want gridlock.  If congress is not passing anything, we as the people are winning. 

All for it. As long as the investigations go on. Even though they most likely will  end up as political theatre. Still want it. Time for a lesson to be taught. 

[Strike 3,975]

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/01/nhl-caves-on-discriminatory-woke-job-fair-after-warning-from-desantis-administration/

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584]

On 1/13/2023 at 8:37 AM, Alias Detective said:

Sununu is the answer.  Or, you want gridlock?  Your choice.

I love gridlock, its my favorite

if the house and senate aren't doing anything so be it

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584]

On 1/13/2023 at 1:26 PM, iam90sbaby said:

It's gridlock if it's any GOP president, doesn't matter who.  If there isn't gridlock its always the Republicans bending a knee not the Democrats.

nailed it completely

 

[Strike 3,975]

Desantis wins again:

https://www.fox13news.com/news/warren-vs-desantis-ousted-florida-state-attorney-cannot-legally-be-reinstated-by-u-s-court-judge-rules

[jerryskids 5,206]

On 1/12/2023 at 1:59 PM, The Real timschochet said:

People flee NY to California too. I suspect weather is a much more likely reason than politics. 

This is a joke, right?   

 

National rank	State	Total net domestic migration (2020–2021)[1]	Net domestic migration rate per 1,000 inhabitants
1	Florida	220,890	10.14
2	Texas	170,307	5.77
3	Arizona	93,026	12.78
4	North Carolina	88,673	8.40
5	South Carolina	64,833	12.49
6	Tennessee	61,390	8.80
7	Georgia	50,632	4.69
8	Idaho	48,876	25.71
9	Utah	32,200	9.65
10	Nevada	25,327	8.06
11	Oklahoma	24,687	6.19
12	Alabama	22,136	4.39
13	Montana	19,240	17.42
14	Arkansas	16,016	5.29
15	Maine	15,473	11.28
16	Missouri	14,861	2.41
17	Indiana	14,280	2.10
18	New Hampshire	13,608	9.80
19	Colorado	13,054	2.25
20	Delaware	12,207	12.17
21	Kentucky	10,022	2.22
22	Oregon	8,080	1.90
23	South Dakota	5,564	6.21
24	Connecticut	5,134	1.42
25	Vermont	4,589	7.11
26	Wisconsin	3,307	0.56
27	West Virginia	2,343	1.31
28	Wyoming	1,252	2.16
29	Rhode Island	890	0.81
30	Iowa	833	0.26
31	Washington	−29	−0.00
32	New Mexico	−2,186	−1.03
33	Ohio	−3,128	−0.27
34	Pennsylvania	−3,194	−0.25
35	Nebraska	−3,313	−1.69
36	Alaska	−3,879	−5.29
37	Mississippi	−4,246	−1.44
38	Kansas	−5,241	−1.79
39	North Dakota	−6,460	−8.34
40	Michigan	−7,893	−0.79
41	Virginia	−8,995	−1.04
42	Hawaii	−12,603	−8.74
43	Minnesota	−13,453	−2.36
44	Maryland	−19,871	−3.22
—	District of Columbia	−23,030	−34.37
45	New Jersey	−27,766	−3.00
46	Louisiana	−30,312	−6.56
47	Massachusetts	−46,187	−6.61
48	Illinois	−122,460	−9.66
49	New York	−352,185	−17.75
50	California	−367,299	−9.36

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_net_migration

Lefties like to post data about how awesome their states rank... as they sit in a moving van ready to drive to a functioning, vibrant red state. 

 

[edjr 5,564]

February 2021.   

[edjr 5,564]

9 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This is a joke, right?   

 

National rank	State	Total net domestic migration (2020–2021)[1]	Net domestic migration rate per 1,000 inhabitants
1	Florida	220,890	10.14
2	Texas	170,307	5.77
3	Arizona	93,026	12.78
4	North Carolina	88,673	8.40
5	South Carolina	64,833	12.49
6	Tennessee	61,390	8.80
7	Georgia	50,632	4.69
8	Idaho	48,876	25.71
9	Utah	32,200	9.65
10	Nevada	25,327	8.06
11	Oklahoma	24,687	6.19
12	Alabama	22,136	4.39
13	Montana	19,240	17.42
14	Arkansas	16,016	5.29
15	Maine	15,473	11.28
16	Missouri	14,861	2.41
17	Indiana	14,280	2.10
18	New Hampshire	13,608	9.80
19	Colorado	13,054	2.25
20	Delaware	12,207	12.17
21	Kentucky	10,022	2.22
22	Oregon	8,080	1.90
23	South Dakota	5,564	6.21
24	Connecticut	5,134	1.42
25	Vermont	4,589	7.11
26	Wisconsin	3,307	0.56
27	West Virginia	2,343	1.31
28	Wyoming	1,252	2.16
29	Rhode Island	890	0.81
30	Iowa	833	0.26
31	Washington	−29	−0.00
32	New Mexico	−2,186	−1.03
33	Ohio	−3,128	−0.27
34	Pennsylvania	−3,194	−0.25
35	Nebraska	−3,313	−1.69
36	Alaska	−3,879	−5.29
37	Mississippi	−4,246	−1.44
38	Kansas	−5,241	−1.79
39	North Dakota	−6,460	−8.34
40	Michigan	−7,893	−0.79
41	Virginia	−8,995	−1.04
42	Hawaii	−12,603	−8.74
43	Minnesota	−13,453	−2.36
44	Maryland	−19,871	−3.22
—	District of Columbia	−23,030	−34.37
45	New Jersey	−27,766	−3.00
46	Louisiana	−30,312	−6.56
47	Massachusetts	−46,187	−6.61
48	Illinois	−122,460	−9.66
49	New York	−352,185	−17.75
50	California	−367,299	−9.36

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_net_migration

Lefties like to post data about how awesome their states rank... as they sit in a moving van ready to drive to a functioning, vibrant red state. 

 

  

[dogcows 1,029]

30 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This is a joke, right?   

 

National rank	State	Total net domestic migration (2020–2021)[1]	Net domestic migration rate per 1,000 inhabitants
1	Florida	220,890	10.14
2	Texas	170,307	5.77
3	Arizona	93,026	12.78
4	North Carolina	88,673	8.40
5	South Carolina	64,833	12.49
6	Tennessee	61,390	8.80
7	Georgia	50,632	4.69
8	Idaho	48,876	25.71
9	Utah	32,200	9.65
10	Nevada	25,327	8.06
11	Oklahoma	24,687	6.19
12	Alabama	22,136	4.39
13	Montana	19,240	17.42
14	Arkansas	16,016	5.29
15	Maine	15,473	11.28
16	Missouri	14,861	2.41
17	Indiana	14,280	2.10
18	New Hampshire	13,608	9.80
19	Colorado	13,054	2.25
20	Delaware	12,207	12.17
21	Kentucky	10,022	2.22
22	Oregon	8,080	1.90
23	South Dakota	5,564	6.21
24	Connecticut	5,134	1.42
25	Vermont	4,589	7.11
26	Wisconsin	3,307	0.56
27	West Virginia	2,343	1.31
28	Wyoming	1,252	2.16
29	Rhode Island	890	0.81
30	Iowa	833	0.26
31	Washington	−29	−0.00
32	New Mexico	−2,186	−1.03
33	Ohio	−3,128	−0.27
34	Pennsylvania	−3,194	−0.25
35	Nebraska	−3,313	−1.69
36	Alaska	−3,879	−5.29
37	Mississippi	−4,246	−1.44
38	Kansas	−5,241	−1.79
39	North Dakota	−6,460	−8.34
40	Michigan	−7,893	−0.79
41	Virginia	−8,995	−1.04
42	Hawaii	−12,603	−8.74
43	Minnesota	−13,453	−2.36
44	Maryland	−19,871	−3.22
—	District of Columbia	−23,030	−34.37
45	New Jersey	−27,766	−3.00
46	Louisiana	−30,312	−6.56
47	Massachusetts	−46,187	−6.61
48	Illinois	−122,460	−9.66
49	New York	−352,185	−17.75
50	California	−367,299	−9.36

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_net_migration

Lefties like to post data about how awesome their states rank... as they sit in a moving van ready to drive to a functioning, vibrant red state. 

 

Or it could be what it’s always been about: people from the north retire to Florida. Not sure why it is suddenly political now. Yankees spring training in Florida is a huge draw because of all the New Yorkers that retire there.

I did some searching and found that United Van Lines has tracked this for decades. Top reasons for moving: retirement, being closer to family, or a new job.

https://www.unitedvanlines.com/newsroom/movers-study-2021

Interesting in their latest numbers: used to be 60% of people moved because of a new job. After COVID, that number is about 30%. I know a lot of people whose jobs are completely remote work now. Overall moving is down quite a bit from pre-pandemic levels. 

Thanks for sharing this data, lots of interesting trends to think about…

 

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

1 minute ago, dogcows said:

Or it could be what it’s always been about: people from the north retire to Florida. Not sure why it is suddenly political now. Yankees spring training is huge because of all the New Yorkers that retire there.

I did some searching and found that United Van Lines has tracked this for decades. Top reasons for moving: retirement, being closer to family, or a new job.

https://www.unitedvanlines.com/newsroom/movers-study-2021

Interesting in their latest numbers: used to be 60% of people moved because of a new job. After COVID, that number is about 30%. I know a lot of people whose jobs are completely remote work now. Overall moving is down quite a bit from pre-pandemic levels. 

Thanks for sharing this data, lots of interesting trends to think about…

 

Goal posts moved

[dogcows 1,029]

2 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Goal posts moved

I jumped into the discussion late. Point is, most people don’t move because of politics. Job, family, and retirement are the biggest reasons. Florida has done well as a retirement location due to the weather, but they also figured out they should have no income tax, making up the difference by taxing tourists and property.

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

7 minutes ago, dogcows said:

I jumped into the discussion late. Point is, most people don’t move because of politics. Job, family, and retirement are the biggest reasons. Florida has done well as a retirement location due to the weather, but they also figured out they should have no income tax, making up the difference by taxing tourists and property.

What you fail to realize is it's good for family and jobs because of it's politics. 

Which state doesn't have property tax?