No love for the James webb space telescope

[Cloaca du jour 2,064]

https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html

Fully deployed...last burn to its destination orbit.

Will revolutionize our understanding of the universe..just like the Hubble deep field photo did.

First images will be in about 5 months...its an infra red telescope so it has to cool down.

[posty 2,296]

Couldn't care less...

[nospk 230]

https://www.jwst.nasa.gov/

[MTSkiBum 1,594]

I think more attention will be payed to it a year or 2 from now once scientists start publishing the findings.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

No-one cares because no-one bothers to say what it is supposed to do exactly.

One of the most exciting things this telescope will do is it will be able to analyze the atmospheres of planets orbiting other stars.  Scientists can use this data to determine if life is on those planets.  Now we don't have to rely on finding radio signals from aliens.  We can inspect planets and see if life is there.

[fandandy 3,311]

14 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

One of the most exciting things this telescope will do is it will be able to analyze the atmospheres of planets orbiting other stars.  Scientists can use this data to determine if life is on those planets.  Now we don't have to rely on finding radio signals from aliens.  We can inspect planets and see if life is there.

No sh1t?  Planet ZX57-1412 has a Starbucks!

[lod001 1,237]

Will we be able to see what life is like on a normal planet?

[supermike80 1,286]

Cool but will be cooler once the images come 

[MLCKAA 395]

1 hour ago, JustinCharge said:

No-one cares because no-one bothers to say what it is supposed to do exactly.

One of the most exciting things this telescope will do is it will be able to analyze the atmospheres of planets orbiting other stars.  Scientists can use this data to determine if life is on those planets.  Now we don't have to rely on finding radio signals from aliens.  We can inspect planets and see if life is there.

I agree with this a bit.  All the publicity is “Scientist will be able to see into the past!”  Can the hyperbole for goodness sake. 

[Cloaca du jour 2,064]

Yes...different elements give off diff emission spectrums..can find planets with similar atmospheres.

Imagine if the found evidence of industrialization..sh1it would be crazy

[NorthernVike 2,080]

We'll never see the images after the nuclear Armageddon.   

[shorepatrol 1,737]

Let me know when it gets pics of big green alien stripper titties 

[Voltaire 4,559]

It's been a remarkable success so far. They had a few hundred things that could potentially go wrong and none did, they're shocked how everything went perfectly smooth according to plan. It was supposed to last ten years but they will have extra fuel to use which they suspect will more than double it's life expectancy.

[edjr 5,564]

Any relation to Spud?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

James Webb is a distant cousin.  HIs grandparents owned slaves. Get ready. 

[taco breath 419]

On 1/24/2022 at 3:19 PM, posty said:

Couldn't care less...

you must be a pisces.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

The thing is that it's pretty obvious there are no aliens out there so odds are this thing will scan thousands of planets and find nothing. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

21 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

The thing is that it's pretty obvious there are no aliens out there so odds are this thing will scan thousands of planets and find nothing. 

Suns are as plentiful as grains of sand. Finding a needle in a haystack is doable compared to finding life. You need to scan billions of planets. 

[frank 2,145]

Do we really need more pictures of Uranus?

[Cloaca du jour 2,064]

1 hour ago, JustinCharge said:

The thing is that it's pretty obvious there are no aliens out there so odds are this thing will scan thousands of planets and find nothing. 

I dont think you understand the scope of the universe lol.  Its mathematically impossibe we are the only sentient life out there...silly goose.

[GobbleDog 816]

On 1/24/2022 at 5:47 PM, JustinCharge said:

No-one cares because no-one bothers to say what it is supposed to do exactly.

No one cares because it doesn't DO anything.  "Wow, cool pictures." That's about it. Possibly add some unknown pointless fact to a cosmology textbook.

"Find life".... it estimates possibility of life. And even then, what difference does it make when it's millions of light years away? 

[Horseman 1,514]

1 hour ago, TimmySmith said:

Suns are as plentiful as grains of sand. Finding a needle in a haystack is doable compared to finding life. You need to scan billions of planets. 

 

29 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

I dont think you understand the scope of the universe lol.  Its mathematically impossibe we are the only sentient life out there...silly goose.

Both

How fast can this thing scan?

[JustinCharge 2,397]

8 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said:

I dont think you understand the scope of the universe lol.  Its mathematically impossibe we are the only sentient life out there...silly goose.

The problem is that if that other sentient life emerged just 2 million years before we did, they'd have colonized the entire galaxy.  We'd see them in every star system, broadcasting signals all over the place and leaving obvious traces of their movements.  We DONT see that. So there's quite obviously no one else out there. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

The james webb began it's life in the 1990s with a goal of launching in 2007 for $1 billion.  It ended up being launched in 2022 for $10 billion.  Other space telescopes are in the pipeline as well. James webb should last 10 years, with better telescopes launching in the 2030s

[Cloaca du jour 2,064]

1 hour ago, JustinCharge said:

The problem is that if that other sentient life emerged just 2 million years before we did, they'd have colonized the entire galaxy.  We'd see them in every star system, broadcasting signals all over the place and leaving obvious traces of their movements.  We DONT see that. So there's quite obviously no one else out there. 

Based on what??  Star trek physics?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 hour ago, JustinCharge said:

The problem is that if that other sentient life emerged just 2 million years before we did, they'd have colonized the entire galaxy.  We'd see them in every star system, broadcasting signals all over the place and leaving obvious traces of their movements.  We DONT see that. So there's quite obviously no one else out there. 

The probability is that there are 1000s of earths just like ours. All in different stages of development.  But they are 1000s of light years apart. We are still only capable of dealing with light-hours. Not even light days. 

[jerryskids 5,206]

3 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

The problem is that if that other sentient life emerged just 2 million years before we did, they'd have colonized the entire galaxy.  We'd see them in every star system, broadcasting signals all over the place and leaving obvious traces of their movements.  We DONT see that. So there's quite obviously no one else out there. 

The problem with this is that the signals we are seeing are from much longer ago pretty much always.  Heck, look at earth, we've only been sending out signals for, I dunno, <100 years.  Other life forms would have to be within 100 light years, and looking exactly now, to see us "doing" something.

Unless there is some warp speed physics we don't know about yet, then all bets are off.  

[nobody 2,041]

12 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Its mathematically impossibe we are the only sentient life out there...silly goose.

No it's not.

[Cloaca du jour 2,064]

18 minutes ago, nobody said:

No it's not.

Enlighten me...please.  

[Cloaca du jour 2,064]

Updated video about all the things the telescope can do.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

3 hours ago, jerryskids said:

The problem with this is that the signals we are seeing are from much longer ago pretty much always.  Heck, look at earth, we've only been sending out signals for, I dunno, <100 years.  Other life forms would have to be within 100 light years, and looking exactly now, to see us "doing" something.

Unless there is some warp speed physics we don't know about yet, then all bets are off.  

The milky way is only 100,000 light years across at it's widest point.  We can see everything within the last 100,000 years.   Unless another sentient form emerged at almost the exact same time we did, there is no one out there but us.  In 2 million years, 1 sentient lifeform will colonize the entire milky way.  

[nobody 2,041]

4 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Enlighten me...please.  

I'm not sure why you think that.  I'm not too interested in writing a broad essay on why the statement "it's mathematically impossible we are the only sentient life" is false.

I mean assume you are referencing the Drake equation which people like to point to as proof of extraterrestrial life, so that's where I would start since that calculation is based off of several estimations and I would challenge those estimates.

But if you're asserting that it's mathematically impossible because you've met an alien or something, I would probably just back away slowly and pretend I believe you.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Also, the andromeda galaxy is twice the size of the milky way at a width of 220,000 light years.  It is only 2.5 million light years away. If any sentient life form emerged THERE 3 million years ago, they would have fully colonized every part of the andromeda and milky way galaxies by now. So there almost no chance there is anyone in that galaxy either. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

14 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

The milky way is only 100,000 light years across at it's widest point.  We can see everything within the last 100,000 years.   Unless another sentient form emerged at almost the exact same time we did, there is no one out there but us.  In 2 million years, 1 sentient lifeform will colonize the entire milky way.  

Under this hypothesis, we can "see" what happened 100,000 years ago, but we can't see what happened 99000 years ago.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,517]

On 1/24/2022 at 4:15 PM, Cloaca du jour said:

https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html

Fully deployed...last burn to its destination orbit.

Will revolutionize our understanding of the universe..just like the Hubble deep field photo did.

First images will be in about 5 months...its an infra red telescope so it has to cool down.

totally cool.

It's orbiting L2?  Where and what is L2?

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Under this hypothesis, we can "see" what happened 100,000 years ago, but we can't see what happened 99000 years ago.

Well earth isn't on the edge of a spiral arm of the galaxy, so our vision is much less than 100k years. 

[GobbleDog 816]

On 1/24/2022 at 5:15 PM, Cloaca du jour said:

Will revolutionize our understanding of the universe..just like the Hubble deep field photo did.

Oh c'mon... "revolutionize our understanding" ?

What you really mean is "it will slightly increase our understanding by a tiny insignificant amount and no one on Earth will care except a handful cosmologists..."

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,517]

22 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Oh c'mon... "revolutionize our understanding" ?

What you really mean is "it will slightly increase our understanding by a tiny insignificant amount and no one on Earth will care except a handful cosmologists..."

REVOLUCION!!!!

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

Oh c'mon... "revolutionize our understanding" ?

What you really mean is "it will slightly increase our understanding by a tiny insignificant amount and no one on Earth will care except a handful cosmologists..."

When it costs $10 billion to put these in space, you spare no expense when it comes to hyperbole

[nobody 2,041]

You guys remember Ultima Thule?  

Yeah, no one else does either.