Cloaca du jour 2,069 Posted January 24, 2022 https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html Fully deployed...last burn to its destination orbit. Will revolutionize our understanding of the universe..just like the Hubble deep field photo did. First images will be in about 5 months...its an infra red telescope so it has to cool down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted January 24, 2022 Couldn't care less... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nospk 230 Posted January 24, 2022 https://www.jwst.nasa.gov/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,597 Posted January 24, 2022 I think more attention will be payed to it a year or 2 from now once scientists start publishing the findings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 24, 2022 No-one cares because no-one bothers to say what it is supposed to do exactly. One of the most exciting things this telescope will do is it will be able to analyze the atmospheres of planets orbiting other stars. Scientists can use this data to determine if life is on those planets. Now we don't have to rely on finding radio signals from aliens. We can inspect planets and see if life is there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted January 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: One of the most exciting things this telescope will do is it will be able to analyze the atmospheres of planets orbiting other stars. Scientists can use this data to determine if life is on those planets. Now we don't have to rely on finding radio signals from aliens. We can inspect planets and see if life is there. No sh1t? Planet ZX57-1412 has a Starbucks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,238 Posted January 24, 2022 Will we be able to see what life is like on a normal planet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,294 Posted January 24, 2022 Cool but will be cooler once the images come Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 414 Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, JustinCharge said: No-one cares because no-one bothers to say what it is supposed to do exactly. One of the most exciting things this telescope will do is it will be able to analyze the atmospheres of planets orbiting other stars. Scientists can use this data to determine if life is on those planets. Now we don't have to rely on finding radio signals from aliens. We can inspect planets and see if life is there. I agree with this a bit. All the publicity is “Scientist will be able to see into the past!” Can the hyperbole for goodness sake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,069 Posted January 25, 2022 Yes...different elements give off diff emission spectrums..can find planets with similar atmospheres. Imagine if the found evidence of industrialization..sh1it would be crazy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted January 25, 2022 We'll never see the images after the nuclear Armageddon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,738 Posted January 25, 2022 Let me know when it gets pics of big green alien stripper titties 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,570 Posted January 25, 2022 It's been a remarkable success so far. They had a few hundred things that could potentially go wrong and none did, they're shocked how everything went perfectly smooth according to plan. It was supposed to last ten years but they will have extra fuel to use which they suspect will more than double it's life expectancy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,591 Posted January 25, 2022 Any relation to Spud? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 25, 2022 James Webb is a distant cousin. HIs grandparents owned slaves. Get ready. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco breath 419 Posted January 26, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 3:19 PM, posty said: Couldn't care less... you must be a pisces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 26, 2022 The thing is that it's pretty obvious there are no aliens out there so odds are this thing will scan thousands of planets and find nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: The thing is that it's pretty obvious there are no aliens out there so odds are this thing will scan thousands of planets and find nothing. Suns are as plentiful as grains of sand. Finding a needle in a haystack is doable compared to finding life. You need to scan billions of planets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,153 Posted January 26, 2022 Do we really need more pictures of Uranus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,069 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, JustinCharge said: The thing is that it's pretty obvious there are no aliens out there so odds are this thing will scan thousands of planets and find nothing. I dont think you understand the scope of the universe lol. Its mathematically impossibe we are the only sentient life out there...silly goose. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 822 Posted January 26, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 5:47 PM, JustinCharge said: No-one cares because no-one bothers to say what it is supposed to do exactly. No one cares because it doesn't DO anything. "Wow, cool pictures." That's about it. Possibly add some unknown pointless fact to a cosmology textbook. "Find life".... it estimates possibility of life. And even then, what difference does it make when it's millions of light years away? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,528 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, TimmySmith said: Suns are as plentiful as grains of sand. Finding a needle in a haystack is doable compared to finding life. You need to scan billions of planets. 29 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: I dont think you understand the scope of the universe lol. Its mathematically impossibe we are the only sentient life out there...silly goose. Both How fast can this thing scan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 26, 2022 8 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said: I dont think you understand the scope of the universe lol. Its mathematically impossibe we are the only sentient life out there...silly goose. The problem is that if that other sentient life emerged just 2 million years before we did, they'd have colonized the entire galaxy. We'd see them in every star system, broadcasting signals all over the place and leaving obvious traces of their movements. We DONT see that. So there's quite obviously no one else out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 26, 2022 The james webb began it's life in the 1990s with a goal of launching in 2007 for $1 billion. It ended up being launched in 2022 for $10 billion. Other space telescopes are in the pipeline as well. James webb should last 10 years, with better telescopes launching in the 2030s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,069 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, JustinCharge said: The problem is that if that other sentient life emerged just 2 million years before we did, they'd have colonized the entire galaxy. We'd see them in every star system, broadcasting signals all over the place and leaving obvious traces of their movements. We DONT see that. So there's quite obviously no one else out there. Based on what?? Star trek physics? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, JustinCharge said: The problem is that if that other sentient life emerged just 2 million years before we did, they'd have colonized the entire galaxy. We'd see them in every star system, broadcasting signals all over the place and leaving obvious traces of their movements. We DONT see that. So there's quite obviously no one else out there. The probability is that there are 1000s of earths just like ours. All in different stages of development. But they are 1000s of light years apart. We are still only capable of dealing with light-hours. Not even light days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,234 Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, JustinCharge said: The problem is that if that other sentient life emerged just 2 million years before we did, they'd have colonized the entire galaxy. We'd see them in every star system, broadcasting signals all over the place and leaving obvious traces of their movements. We DONT see that. So there's quite obviously no one else out there. The problem with this is that the signals we are seeing are from much longer ago pretty much always. Heck, look at earth, we've only been sending out signals for, I dunno, <100 years. Other life forms would have to be within 100 light years, and looking exactly now, to see us "doing" something. Unless there is some warp speed physics we don't know about yet, then all bets are off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,054 Posted January 26, 2022 12 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said: Its mathematically impossibe we are the only sentient life out there...silly goose. No it's not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,069 Posted January 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, nobody said: No it's not. Enlighten me...please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,069 Posted January 26, 2022 Updated video about all the things the telescope can do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, jerryskids said: The problem with this is that the signals we are seeing are from much longer ago pretty much always. Heck, look at earth, we've only been sending out signals for, I dunno, <100 years. Other life forms would have to be within 100 light years, and looking exactly now, to see us "doing" something. Unless there is some warp speed physics we don't know about yet, then all bets are off. The milky way is only 100,000 light years across at it's widest point. We can see everything within the last 100,000 years. Unless another sentient form emerged at almost the exact same time we did, there is no one out there but us. In 2 million years, 1 sentient lifeform will colonize the entire milky way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,054 Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said: Enlighten me...please. I'm not sure why you think that. I'm not too interested in writing a broad essay on why the statement "it's mathematically impossible we are the only sentient life" is false. I mean assume you are referencing the Drake equation which people like to point to as proof of extraterrestrial life, so that's where I would start since that calculation is based off of several estimations and I would challenge those estimates. But if you're asserting that it's mathematically impossible because you've met an alien or something, I would probably just back away slowly and pretend I believe you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 26, 2022 Also, the andromeda galaxy is twice the size of the milky way at a width of 220,000 light years. It is only 2.5 million light years away. If any sentient life form emerged THERE 3 million years ago, they would have fully colonized every part of the andromeda and milky way galaxies by now. So there almost no chance there is anyone in that galaxy either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: The milky way is only 100,000 light years across at it's widest point. We can see everything within the last 100,000 years. Unless another sentient form emerged at almost the exact same time we did, there is no one out there but us. In 2 million years, 1 sentient lifeform will colonize the entire milky way. Under this hypothesis, we can "see" what happened 100,000 years ago, but we can't see what happened 99000 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,568 Posted January 26, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 4:15 PM, Cloaca du jour said: https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html Fully deployed...last burn to its destination orbit. Will revolutionize our understanding of the universe..just like the Hubble deep field photo did. First images will be in about 5 months...its an infra red telescope so it has to cool down. totally cool. It's orbiting L2? Where and what is L2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Under this hypothesis, we can "see" what happened 100,000 years ago, but we can't see what happened 99000 years ago. Well earth isn't on the edge of a spiral arm of the galaxy, so our vision is much less than 100k years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 822 Posted January 26, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 5:15 PM, Cloaca du jour said: Will revolutionize our understanding of the universe..just like the Hubble deep field photo did. Oh c'mon... "revolutionize our understanding" ? What you really mean is "it will slightly increase our understanding by a tiny insignificant amount and no one on Earth will care except a handful cosmologists..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,568 Posted January 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, GobbleDog said: Oh c'mon... "revolutionize our understanding" ? What you really mean is "it will slightly increase our understanding by a tiny insignificant amount and no one on Earth will care except a handful cosmologists..." REVOLUCION!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, GobbleDog said: Oh c'mon... "revolutionize our understanding" ? What you really mean is "it will slightly increase our understanding by a tiny insignificant amount and no one on Earth will care except a handful cosmologists..." When it costs $10 billion to put these in space, you spare no expense when it comes to hyperbole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,054 Posted January 26, 2022 You guys remember Ultima Thule? Yeah, no one else does either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites