Nothing on the Texas School shooting?

[GutterBoy 2,899]

7 minutes ago, lod001 said:

All the signs were there but nothing is ever done about it. It will happen again as long as those in power don't give a crap about the citizens. That means it will happen again and again and again. But hey, I hope everyone is happy for the Ukraines new found wealth. I'm sure that walensky guy is partying it up with the next US official that visits.

Yeah keep voting for the same losers that do nothing...on both sides. 95% of them should be voted out and that starts with the fossils - mcconnell & pelosi. 

You can't rely on the people in power to care about us and take care of us, we need to take care of ourselves, and clearly this kid was forgotten.

[Hawkeye21 2,401]

29 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

I’m with you. We value life differently or lives differently. Like take that story out of New York where the wife was stabbed like 60 times and thrown in a suitcase. It’s tragic right? Then you find out she’s been banging everyone including the groundskeeper and your sympathy for her changes. 
Kids we always feel as innocent, defenseless. 

The older you are the less of a tragedy it usually is because you lived a long life. Kids don’t get that opportunity so it’s always far sadder. 
 

Exactly, and when you have children of the same age it really hits harder.

[Djgb13 2,339]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Wrong.

Resident board liar lyin again  

[lod001 1,344]

This steve kerr idiot is a real gem. A totally clueless moron.

Imagine the carnage if people listened to this asshat. 

"Two Uvalde police officers and a school resource officer fired at the shooter, but it did not stop him from entering the building."

 

 

[Hawkeye21 2,401]

10 minutes ago, lod001 said:

All the signs were there but nothing is ever done about it. It will happen again as long as those in power don't give a crap about the citizens. That means it will happen again and again and again. But hey, I hope everyone is happy for the Ukraines new found wealth. I'm sure that walensky guy is partying it up with the next US official that visits.

Yeah keep voting for the same losers that do nothing...on both sides. 95% of them should be voted out and that starts with the fossils - mcconnell & pelosi. 

If Trump was still President, do you think anything would have been different in this instance?

[edjr 6,608]

Why bother having a discussion when the 2 nitwit sides already have their minds made up? 

it's like everything in the world today. 

[lod001 1,344]

All the signs were there. This wasn't even remotely spontaneous. He had body armor. Whoever sold that to him knew what was coming eventually. Problem is reporting it would do nothing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/24/school-shooting-uvalde-texas-updates/

[lod001 1,344]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

If Trump was still President, do you think anything would have been different in this instance?

Nope. I believe he cares more about the country and its people than the 2 old bags I mentioned. They definitely do not care.

[Voltaire 5,322]

9 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I am not sure of the shooters pronouns

but 100000% mental health issues

 

NYT says in passing that he got bullied for being gay. Not that it matters much, but be prepared to see the memory hole swallow the fact it was a gay teen who shoot up the school.

[edjr 6,608]

 

 

Nailed it

[Hawkeye21 2,401]

2 minutes ago, edjr said:

Why bother having a discussion when the 2 nitwit sides already have their minds made up? 

it's like everything in the world today. 

Both sides agree that something needs to change.  Just need to come to an agreement on how to do that though.  At least everyone has a common goal for this.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

Yup, he bought 2 rifles and hundreds of rounds days ago, then posted pics of the guns, then told someone he was gonna do something big

https://www.thedailybeast.com/robb-elementary-school-gunman-salvador-ramos-bought-two-rifles-on-his-18th-birthday-texas-officials-say?ref=scroll

[lod001 1,344]

1 minute ago, edjr said:

 

 

Nailed it

He's a fuckin idiot who wants no police presence at schools.

[edjr 6,608]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Both sides agree that something needs to change.  Just need to come to an agreement on how to do that though.  At least everyone has a common goal for this.

This is true. You can't deny that. You're dreaming if you think the 2 sides can agree on it. Not even possible. 

[edjr 6,608]

Just now, lod001 said:

He's a fuckin idiot who wants no police presence at schools.

Yay, throw a cop in there. Add another dead person to the total.  I am sure they will have nothing but the best patrolling the school all day and not sitting outside on their cell phone all day.

[Utilit99 4,099]

54 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I get what you're saying but in reality it can make a huge difference to some people.  Some things hit home a lot more than other things do.  In the overall big picture of life on this planet, is it any different than others dying?  In a simplistic way, probably not.  We are not simple though, we're complex humans and each one of us deals with life events differently.

I would feel much different hearing about a 40 year old, married woman with kids, being shot and killed compared to a 40 year old, single prostitute with no kids, being shot and killed.  Maybe I shouldn't feel that way but that's the reality of it for me.

So if you had a 30 year old daughter, who has a 5 year old kid, you would feel less pain if your daughter was shot and killed rather than it happening to her child or even one of the kid's friends lets say?

[KSB2424 3,148]

How does an 18 year old get inside a school  holding a rifle?  Let’s start there. It’s 2022, surly one has to be “buzzed” in, where are the cameras?  

[lod001 1,344]

1 minute ago, edjr said:

Yay, throw a cop in there. Add another dead person to the total.  I am sure they will have nothing but the best patrolling the school all day and not sitting outside on their cell phone all day.

The simple presence of a cop sends the shooter elsewhere unless they are ready for suicide by cop. Show me all the documented cases where police presence did not stop a psycho from trying to commit mass murder.

[Hawkeye21 2,401]

3 minutes ago, edjr said:

This is true. You can't deny that. You're dreaming if you think the 2 sides can agree on it. Not even possible. 

I know.  It's the terrible side of our great country.  We struggle so much to reach a common goal.

[Djgb13 2,339]

5 minutes ago, edjr said:

This is true. You can't deny that. You're dreaming if you think the 2 sides can agree on it. Not even possible. 

One side will call for them to ban all guns. The other I don’t even know but it’s usually not something helpful. Either way, both are wrong 

[lod001 1,344]

Just now, KSB2424 said:

How does an 18 year old get inside a school  holding a rifle?  Let’s start there.  

Body armor. No police presence. They shot at him before he entered according to the Washington post article.

[KSB2424 3,148]

1 minute ago, lod001 said:

Body armor. No police presence. They shot at him before he entered according to the Washington post article.

Why was the doors unlocked?  Where are the cameras?  It’s 2022.

[MDC 7,511]

15 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Resident board liar lyin again  

Licensed sellers are required to run a background check. Private gun sellers aren’t. You can look it up. HTH

[Hawkeye21 2,401]

4 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

So if you had a 30 year old daughter, who has a 5 year old kid, you would feel less pain if your daughter was shot and killed rather than it happening to her child or even one of the kid's friends lets say?

Every scenario is different.  I don't know how a person could mentally treat them all the same.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

7 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

How does an 18 year old get inside a school  holding a rifle?  Let’s start there. It’s 2022, surly one has to be “buzzed” in, where are the cameras?  

Yeah this seems like a no brainer.  All the schools around me are locked up all the time.

[Masshole 642]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Licensed sellers are required to run a background check. Private gun sellers aren’t. You can look it up. HTH

I don't think there are many, or even any of these mass shootings that were done with guns bought through private sales.     I could be wrong and haven't researched it - but I will say that it is very likely the guns purchased by this loser were done legally and with a background check.    That's kind of the problem - until a psycho does something psychotic - there probably isn't anything in their background that would cause them to fail a background check.    

The "we need universal background checks" thing is a swerve.   It's really not the issue/problem.  

How do you prevent a psycho from doing something psychotic before they've done anything psychotic before?    Red flag laws seem like an answer but they also seem like they would be rife for abuse and misuse.   And, from my understanding of this shooter and of the Buffalo guy - it doesn't sound like there was anyone around these people who would do anything like call in a red flag notice on them.   Broken families, broken people with very few functioning adults around them to say "hey - this guy is dangerous".    So would red flag laws have stopped them?  Not likely.   

We may have to raise the age to purchase a gun to something like 25 yrs old but include special exceptions where if someone is a legitimate hunter or a marksmen (or in the military, of course) they could get a license.    But these young losers with issues and no real social structure around them - they gotta stop being able to get guns as soon as they turn 18.   

[Cloaca du jour 2,151]

25 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Yup, he bought 2 rifles and hundreds of rounds days ago, then posted pics of the guns, then told someone he was gonna do something big

https://www.thedailybeast.com/robb-elementary-school-gunman-salvador-ramos-bought-two-rifles-on-his-18th-birthday-texas-officials-say?ref=scroll

How did he afford it...like 3k probably...did he work?

[MDC 7,511]

4 minutes ago, Masshole said:

I don't think there are many, or even any of these mass shootings that were done with guns bought through private sales.     I could be wrong and haven't researched it - but I will say that it is very likely the guns purchased by this loser were done legally and with a background check.    That's kind of the problem - until a psycho does something psychotic - there probably isn't anything in their background that would cause them to fail a background check.    

The "we need universal background checks" thing is a swerve.   It's really not the issue/problem.  

How do you prevent a psycho from doing something psychotic before they've done anything psychotic before?    Red flag laws seem like an answer but they also seem like they would be rife for abuse and misuse.   And, from my understanding of this shooter and of the Buffalo guy - it doesn't sound like there was anyone around these people who would do anything like call in a red flag notice on them.   Broken families, broken people with very few functioning adults around them to say "hey - this guy is dangerous".    So would red flag laws have stopped them?  Not likely.   

We may have to raise the age to purchase a gun to something like 25 yrs old but include special exceptions where if someone is a legitimate hunter or a marksmen (or in the military, of course) they could get a license.    But these young losers with issues and no real social structure around them - they gotta stop being able to get guns as soon as they turn 18.   

I’m just responding to Digby’s false claim that background checks are required for all gun sales. That’s just factually incorrect. 

You’re right universal background checks probably wouldn’t stop many of these mass shootings. They probably would reduce day to day street violence though.

Not that anyone cares much about that.

[Voltaire 5,322]

7 minutes ago, Masshole said:

I don't think there are many, or even any of these mass shootings that were done with guns bought through private sales.     I could be wrong and haven't researched it - but I will say that it is very likely the guns purchased by this loser were done legally and with a background check.    That's kind of the problem - until a psycho does something psychotic - there probably isn't anything in their background that would cause them to fail a background check.    

The "we need universal background checks" thing is a swerve.   It's really not the issue/problem.  

How do you prevent a psycho from doing something psychotic before they've done anything psychotic before?    Red flag laws seem like an answer but they also seem like they would be rife for abuse and misuse.   And, from my understanding of this shooter and of the Buffalo guy - it doesn't sound like there was anyone around these people who would do anything like call in a red flag notice on them.   Broken families, broken people with very few functioning adults around them to say "hey - this guy is dangerous".    So would red flag laws have stopped them?  Not likely.   

We may have to raise the age to purchase a gun to something like 25 yrs old but include special exceptions where if someone is a legitimate hunter or a marksmen (or in the military, of course) they could get a license.    But these young losers with issues and no real social structure around them - they gotta stop being able to get guns as soon as they turn 18.   

Parkland, Buffalo, and yesterday were 18 y/os. The trench coat mafia in Colorado that started this were as well. Likely many more I’m forgetting 

[Djgb13 2,339]

21 minutes ago, MDC said:

Licensed sellers are required to run a background check. Private gun sellers aren’t. You can look it up. HTH

The so called “gun show” loophole huh? Funny cause I’ve bought quite a few guns at gun shows and they ALL had background checks done 

Now, this kid bought his LEGALLY. So you’re dumb ass point is moot cause it doesn’t change a thing. Maybe instead of being a retard try using your brain that you’ve neglected for 30+ years

[Hawkeye21 2,401]

What I struggle to understand is why an 18 year old would choose to shoot up an elementary school.  It makes more sense to attack your peers, not little kids that you most likely have no connection to.

[Djgb13 2,339]

Can someone tell me what happened to the resource officers here? Also, schools are supposed to be lockdown with only a single entry point and even then you can’t waltz into the school. So how did this kid with 2 rifles make it through? 

[MDC 7,511]

2 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

The so called “gun show” loophole huh? Funny cause I’ve bought quite a few guns at gun shows and they ALL had background checks done 

Not ALL gun sales require checks. That’s a fact.

[Djgb13 2,339]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Not ALL gun sales require checks. That’s a fact.

Nice deflection but ur still an idiot

[MDC 7,511]

Just now, Djgb13 said:

Nice deflection but ur still an idiot

You said all gun sales require a background check and you were wrong. No wonder it took you 7 years to become a candy striper. Go change a bedpan and blow the real doctor, stupid.

[Djgb13 2,339]

15 minutes ago, MDC said:

You said all gun sales require a background check and you were wrong. No wonder it took you 7 years to become a candy striper. Go change a bedpan and blow the real doctor, stupid.

And how many times has someone used a gun with “no background check” for these shootings? Hint: they don’t. You’re too focking stupid to realize you’re trying to argue something that has no reason to be argued in this thread you dumb piece of Sh1t

[Masshole 642]

5 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

And how many times has someone used a gun with “no background check” for these shootings? Hint: they don’t. You’re too focking stupid to realize you’re trying to argue something that has no reason to be argued in this thread you dumb piece of Sh1t

That's the reason why I'm not as "moved" by Steve Kerr's remarks last night as many are.    That's a great rant you got there, it would have done nothing to prevent this so why are you linking the two?   

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,365]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

 

 

Nailed it

What did he nail?  Why is he mentioning McConnell?  Dems have every part of govt. shouldn’t he be talking to them?

reality is dems love this cause it always gives them a voter base yet they never do a damn thing. 
 

[Masshole 642]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

 

 

Nailed it

No - I don't think he did.   As noted in other posts - background checks wouldn't have prevented this nor Buffalo.         

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,365]

34 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What I struggle to understand is why an 18 year old would choose to shoot up an elementary school.  It makes more sense to attack your peers, not little kids that you most likely have no connection to.

Cause he she was a little b1tch