Baker Boy 1,704 Posted March 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: Great, another one. Banned/removed from schools and/or libraries. I have never claimed the book is removed from existence or anything. Reading material in schools has always selectively picked. Why weren’t you upset when some blue school districts banned the Dr Suess series? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,190 Posted March 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, dogcows said: What’s wrong with telling the truth? We should stop because it hurts your feelings? Maybe you need a safe space. It's that your truths are completely fake and stupid. That is what is wrong. Why do your feelings get so hurt that smart people point that out? Maybe you should just sit in your safe space with your other ignorant liberal friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,651 Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: I see you've jumped straight from phase 1 (it isn't happening) to phase 3 (it's good that it happens). Usually you Leftists spend a little time first in phase 2 (it happens but it's rare). Yep. Equality has never been the goal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted March 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: Reading material in schools has always selectively picked. Why weren’t you upset when some blue school districts banned the Dr Suess series? I was. It's all mostly dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,108 Posted March 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, dogcows said: What’s wrong with telling the truth? We should stop because it hurts your feelings? Maybe you need a safe space. Maybe idiot leftists like yourself should stop destroying the self esteem of African American youth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, jerryskids said: I see you've jumped straight from phase 1 (it isn't happening) to phase 3 (it's good that it happens). Usually you Leftists spend a little time first in phase 2 (it happens but it's rare). Why should I get outraged at every page from a book that far-right message board members think is bad? There is some stuff posted here that I think is a problem. That book isn’t IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,430 Posted March 12, 2023 4 hours ago, dogcows said: Why should I get outraged at every page from a book that far-right message board members think is bad? There is some stuff posted here that I think is a problem. That book isn’t IMO. It really does not matter what you think. If parent decide that some material is not suitable for their young children, you do not stock it in their libraries. Schools are not public platforms open to the public to exercise free speech. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,014 Posted March 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, jonmx said: It really does not matter what you think. If parent decide that some material is not suitable for their young children, you do not stock it in their libraries. Schools are not public platforms open to the public to exercise free speech. I haven’t followed this whole conversation so don’t even know what book you’re talking about, but for you guys that love talking about slippery slopes, this is one if I’ve ever seen one. Schools can’t be at the whim of something any single parent doesn’t like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,430 Posted March 12, 2023 37 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I haven’t followed this whole conversation so don’t even know what book you’re talking about, but for you guys that love talking about slippery slopes, this is one if I’ve ever seen one. Schools can’t be at the whim of something any single parent doesn’t like. It has nothing to do about the whim of every single parent or any particular book. It is about our elected officials being able to control the direction of our schools with the transparency of public debate and the accoutability of elections, versus having some rogue non-elected leftist-activist teacher unions secretly sneaking their perverted agenda into our schools. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,014 Posted March 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, jonmx said: It has nothing to do about the whim of every single parent or any particular book. It is about our elected officials being able to control the direction of our schools with the transparency of public debate and the accoutability of elections, versus having some rogue non-elected leftist-activist teacher unions secretly sneaking their perverted agenda into our schools. You said a parent can decide what is suitable for a school to teach their children Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,430 Posted March 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, TimHauck said: You said a parent can decide what is suitable for a school to teach their children Absolutely. Through the Democratic process of electing representatives who share the values of the people they represent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,014 Posted March 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, jonmx said: Absolutely. Through the Democratic process of electing representatives who share the values of the people they represent. Ok, nice backtrack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,430 Posted March 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Ok, nice backtrack I am not backtracking one bit. I left a frigging s off of parent. I meant collectively parents should have a say in dictating what books are in the schools. It is the height of stupidity to think I really meant each and every parent should get to determine it. That is not even a possibility. Nice frigging strawman. I explained my arguement very clearly and precisely. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,353 Posted March 12, 2023 18 hours ago, dogcows said: Rufo is a religious zealot. He should not be deciding what others are allowed to read. He doesn’t even think evolution is real. His brain is stuck in medieval times, and I’m not talking about the restaurant. Chris Rufo is primarily associated with exposing the widespread use/damage of critical race theory in schools and so is perfectly suitable for the task of eradicating it. If he has ever written a word about evolution not being real, I am not aware of it and you'd need a link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,353 Posted March 12, 2023 17 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: Here’s the full context read by a sh!tlib bowtied bumkisser. I see that I was correct that the narrative would change from it’s not happening to I’m glad it’s happening. Ugh. White guilt shaming for kids.Great way to divide the class. Get this leftoid indoctrination crap out of the classrooms. Instead, lets read books about uniting kids and treating everyone equally and fairly rather than dividing them. Any teacher inflicting this heavy white guilt trip onto young children in the classroom needs to be fired or traded to California for a homeless drug addict. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,430 Posted March 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Ugh. White guilt shaming for kids. Get this leftoid indoctrination crap out of the classrooms. Lets read books about uniting kids and treating everyone equally and fairly rather than dividing them. Any teacher reading this in the classroom needs to be fired or traded to California for a homeless drug addict. Them people! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,014 Posted March 12, 2023 10 hours ago, jonmx said: I am not backtracking one bit. I left a frigging s off of parent. I meant collectively parents should have a say in dictating what books are in the schools. It is the height of stupidity to think I really meant each and every parent should get to determine it. That is not even a possibility. Nice frigging strawman. I explained my arguement very clearly and precisely. No you didn’t. Even if you meant parents with an s, it wasn’t clear you were referring to “through electing representatives” until I called you out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,430 Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: No you didn’t. Even if you meant parents with an s, it wasn’t clear you were referring to “through electing representatives” until I called you out. Your presumption of ignorance of how our Democracy works is rather cute. Individuals control of the workings of our government is through their vote. Let's stop being stupid and discuss my actual point, not one you are dreaming up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Voltaire said: Chris Rufo is primarily associated with exposing the widespread use/damage of critical race theory in schools and so is perfectly suitable for the task of eradicating it. If he has ever written a word about evolution not being real, I am not aware of it and you'd need a link. He works/ed for the Discovery Institute. They run a site called Evolution News that pushes the “intelligent design” idea… that God is directing everything, and evolution is not a natural/random occurrence. They constantly post stuff attacking evolutionary biologists, including Darwin. And they also have a lot of posts that gripe about “woke’ stuff and/or CRT despite the name of the site seeming to have nothing to do with the politics of race. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/evolution-news-and-views/ Imagine being a biology professor and this nut is now running your college. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 12, 2023 12 hours ago, jonmx said: I am not backtracking one bit. I left a frigging s off of parent. I meant collectively parents should have a say in dictating what books are in the schools. It is the height of stupidity to think I really meant each and every parent should get to determine it. That is not even a possibility. Nice frigging strawman. I explained my arguement very clearly and precisely. But that isn’t what is happening. Any individual parent can challenge as many books as they want. Any challenged book is immediately removed pending review. But the review is done by the school system, not the parents. It’s a perfect way for a person with an axe to grind to make life miserable for the school who has to review every request, and the teachers/librarians who have to remove the books. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,543 Posted March 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, dogcows said: He works/ed for the Discovery Institute. They run a site called Evolution News that pushes the “intelligent design” idea… that God is directing everything, and evolution is not a natural/random occurrence. They constantly post stuff attacking evolutionary biologists, including Darwin. And they also have a lot of posts that gripe about “woke’ stuff and/or CRT despite the name of the site seeming to have nothing to do with the politics of race. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/evolution-news-and-views/ Imagine being a biology professor and this nut is now running your college. Wow. You think think the left hasn’t attacked Darwin and Darwinism? I’d like to say I’m surprised, but I’m not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,353 Posted March 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, dogcows said: He works/ed for the Discovery Institute. They run a site called Evolution News that pushes the “intelligent design” idea… that God is directing everything, and evolution is not a natural/random occurrence. They constantly post stuff attacking evolutionary biologists, including Darwin. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/evolution-news-and-views/ Imagine being a biology professor and this nut is now running your college. You told us he doesn't think evolution is real, not his former employer. I looked up his youtube channel where, as far as I can tell reading the titles, the issue isn't ever brought up. https://www.youtube.com/@christopherrufo/videos But yes, the Discovery Institute has stupid ideas about evolution. My understanding is that he worked on the issue of homelessness in the Northwest when he was at the Discovery Institute. When he's not talking about his primary concern, CRT, homelessness seems to be his favorite policy issue #2 considering how he has a small handful of videos about it. Anyway, if you find that you are having trouble convincing people that he doesn't believe in evolution, maybe the seemingly complete lack of evidence is why. It looks like you are misinformed again. Unlike the Discovery Institute, he seems really in accord with Jordan Peterson and the IDW, who all clearly believe in evolution. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,976 Posted March 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, Voltaire said: You told us he doesn't think evolution is real, not his former employer. I looked up his youtube channel where, as far as I can tell reading the titles, the issue isn't ever brought up. https://www.youtube.com/@christopherrufo/videos But yes, the Discovery Institute has stupid ideas about evolution. My understanding is that he worked on the issue of homelessness in the Northwest when he was at the Discovery Institute. When he's not talking about his primary concern, CRT, homelessness seems to be his favorite policy issue #2 considering how he has a small handful of videos about it. Anyway, if you find that you are having trouble convincing people that he doesn't believe in evolution, maybe the seemingly complete lack of evidence is why. It looks like you are misinformed again. Unlike the Discovery Institute, he seems really in accord with Jordan Peterson and the IDW, who all clearly believe in evolution. I don’t know this gentleman but his views on evolution, whatever they are, should be irrelevant to his views about CRT, which can be either supported or criticized based on their own merits. Personally I don’t think much of his views about CRT, but that’s probably because he seems rather representative of prevailing conservative opinion about CRT- which I don’t think much of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,353 Posted March 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, dogcows said: He works/ed for the Discovery Institute. They run a site called Evolution News that pushes the “intelligent design” idea… that God is directing everything, and evolution is not a natural/random occurrence. They constantly post stuff attacking evolutionary biologists, including Darwin. And they also have a lot of posts that gripe about “woke’ stuff and/or CRT despite the name of the site seeming to have nothing to do with the politics of race. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/evolution-news-and-views/ Imagine being a biology professor and this nut is now running your college. Here, a week ago, he talks about three divisions in the IDW and why it collapsed. None of them are on such unfounded petty silliness as evolution which they all agree on. He identifies :Trump, COVID, and BLM garbage. Actually this was a good listen talking about his ideas regarding the necessity of change and how to go about doing so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,976 Posted March 12, 2023 Here are some facts- and arguments- about Critical Race Theory from the Legal Defense Fund: https://www.naacpldf.org/critical-race-theory-faq/ Now the Legal Defense Fund is a liberal organization, somewhat similar to the ACLU so of course you’re going to get facts and arguments presented here that support their POV. Still, I think it’s compelling. The main arguments in a nutshell : that CRT is a theory which teaches that racism in this country has been top down and systemic, rather than the arbitrary acts of individuals. Also that conservative opponents of CRT have misleadingly used the term to describe all radical outcomes or proposals or comments dealing with racial issues no matter how ugly or extreme: if reparations are proposed, that is CRT. If a black kid beats up a white kid that is CRT. If a radical activist appears to claim that whiteness is evil, that’s CRT. Etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,378 Posted March 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Here are some facts- and arguments- about Critical Race Theory from the Legal Defense Fund: https://www.naacpldf.org/critical-race-theory-faq/ Now the Legal Defense Fund is a liberal organization, somewhat similar to the ACLU so of course you’re going to get facts and arguments presented here that support their POV. Still, I think it’s compelling. The main arguments in a nutshell : that CRT is a theory which teaches that racism in this country has been top down and systemic, rather than the arbitrary acts of individuals. Also that conservative opponents of CRT have misleadingly used the term to describe all radical outcomes or proposals or comments dealing with racial issues no matter how ugly or extreme: if reparations are proposed, that is CRT. If a black kid beats up a white kid that is CRT. If a radical activist appears to claim that whiteness is evil, that’s CRT. Etc. Robin D’Angelo who is the one who writes all the crt garbage promotes the only solution to past injustices is future injustices. And yes saying because you are born white you are inherently racist and need to be anti racist is also crt and a bunch of bullsh1t Reparations are also crt that’s what they use to justify them im sold your one of the dudes that would kiss the boot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,976 Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Robin D’Angelo who is the one who writes all the crt garbage promotes the only solution to past injustices is future injustices. And yes saying because you are born white you are inherently racist and need to be anti racist is also crt and a bunch of bullsh1t Reparations are also crt that’s what they use to justify them im sold your one of the dudes that would kiss the boot Kiss the boot? I haven’t read much of D’Angelo but I’m pretty familiar with other writers who promote or support CRT. They’re muckrakers in the classic American tradition- they expose serious problems in our society and culture and propose radical solutions. Most of the time, both in terms of studying history and the present day, I find myself rejecting their radical solutions while at the same time appreciating their exposure of our problems. That was the case with Upton Sinclair, who wrote The Jungle which brilliantly attacks turn of the century capitalism, but then not so brilliantly demands that it be replaced with socialism. That is definitely the case here with regard to CRT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,353 Posted March 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Here are some facts- and arguments- about Critical Race Theory from the Legal Defense Fund: https://www.naacpldf.org/critical-race-theory-faq/ Now the Legal Defense Fund is a liberal organization, somewhat similar to the ACLU so of course you’re going to get facts and arguments presented here that support their POV. Still, I think it’s compelling. The main arguments in a nutshell : that CRT is a theory which teaches that racism in this country has been top down and systemic, rather than the arbitrary acts of individuals. Also that conservative opponents of CRT have misleadingly used the term to describe all radical outcomes or proposals or comments dealing with racial issues no matter how ugly or extreme: if reparations are proposed, that is CRT. If a black kid beats up a white kid that is CRT. If a radical activist appears to claim that whiteness is evil, that’s CRT. Etc. Who created Critical Race Theory? Disillusioned American Marxists in the 70s on the fringes of academia, who replaced class struggle with the race struggle to maintain relevance. Why do some lawmakers want to ban CRT? Because it is baed on lies and because they want schools to teach in a way that unites race and children, that downplays division rather than open and exacerbate the divide, that doesn't shame white kids, that doesn't disempower black kids, and that doesn't reopen and enflame divides over Noun + Verb + Sh1t that happened over 60 years ago. Why did Critical Race Theory suddenly come under fire? Because when concerned people saw leftoids tear down George Washington and Thomas Jefferson statues in blue state sh*tholes and replace them with George Floyd murals., they took a closer look as to why that happened. They identified the root of the problem and moved to prevent the cancer from spreading out of these degenerate violent crime ridden blue sh*tholes into worthwhile America where decent people still live. What does recent legislation regarding Critical Race Theory seek to ban? That racism againist white people is justifiable because of what happend sixty years ago and the false interpretation of history, viewed through a radical Marxist racist lens and rumors, that "systemic racism" that were eliminated sixty years ago, before most everyone was born, are still present and relevant in modern society. What does the 1619 Project have to do with these laws? It is the foundational vehicle through which these lies and distortions about American history as a nation founded in slavery rather than freedom are presented to children. ------- Corrected for accuracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,976 Posted March 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Who created Critical Race Theory? Disillusioned American Marxists in the 70s on the fringes of academia, who replaced class struggle with the race struggle to maintain relevance. Why do some lawmakers want to ban CRT? Because it is baed on lies and because they want schools to teach in a way that unites race and children, that downplays division rather than open and exacerbate the divide, that doesn't shame white kids, that doesn't disempower black kids, and that doesn't reopen and enflame divides over Noun + Verb + Sh1t that happened over 60 years ago. Why did Critical Race Theory suddenly come under fire? Because when concerned people saw leftoids tear down George Washington and Thomas Jefferson statues in blue state sh*tholes and replace them with George Floyd murals., they took a closer look as to why that happened. They identified the root of the problem and moved to prevent the cancer from spreading out of these degenerate violent crime ridden blue sh*tholes into worthwhile America where decent people still live. What does recent legislation regarding Critical Race Theory seek to ban? That racism againist white people is justifiable because of what happend sixty years ago and the false interpretation of history, viewed through a radical Marxist racist lens and rumors, that "systemic racism" that were eliminated sixty years ago, before most everyone was born, are still present and relevant in modern society. What does the 1619 Project have to do with these laws? It is the foundational vehicle through which these lies and distortions about American history as a nation founded in slavery rather than freedom are presented to children. ------- Corrected for accuracy. Sorry but none of what you wrote is accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Voltaire said: You told us he doesn't think evolution is real, not his former employer. I looked up his youtube channel where, as far as I can tell reading the titles, the issue isn't ever brought up. https://www.youtube.com/@christopherrufo/videos But yes, the Discovery Institute has stupid ideas about evolution. My understanding is that he worked on the issue of homelessness in the Northwest when he was at the Discovery Institute. When he's not talking about his primary concern, CRT, homelessness seems to be his favorite policy issue #2 considering how he has a small handful of videos about it. Anyway, if you find that you are having trouble convincing people that he doesn't believe in evolution, maybe the seemingly complete lack of evidence is why. It looks like you are misinformed again. Unlike the Discovery Institute, he seems really in accord with Jordan Peterson and the IDW, who all clearly believe in evolution. The main goal of the Discovery Institute is to push “intelligent design.” Are you saying he chose to work there despite not buying into that? Here is the mission statement of the company. You’re going to be a senior research fellow at a think tank with this, and then try to claim you never believed it? Bull. Quote The mission of Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture is to advance the understanding that human beings and nature are the result of intelligent design rather than a blind and undirected process. We seek long-term scientific and cultural change through cutting-edge scientific research and scholarship; education and training of young leaders; communication to the general public; and advocacy of academic freedom and free speech for scientists, teachers, and students. He knowingly chose to be a “fellow” at this organization. Gimme a break saying there’s no evidence that he buys into it. Simply agreeing to do “research” for such an organization is evidence. I believe that the anti-CRT nonsense is simply the next step for this group’s agenda. They’ve basically lost the evolution debate, since the science is overwhelmingly against them. This is their latest attempt to push their agenda into schools. Seems like the goal is Christian nationalism? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,378 Posted March 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Kiss the boot? I haven’t read much of D’Angelo but I’m pretty familiar with other writers who promote or support CRT. They’re muckrakers in the classic American tradition- they expose serious problems in our society and culture and propose radical solutions. Most of the time, both in terms of studying history and the present day, I find myself rejecting their radical solutions while at the same time appreciating their exposure of our problems. That was the case with Upton Sinclair, who wrote The Jungle which brilliantly attacks turn of the century capitalism, but then not so brilliantly demands that it be replaced with socialism. That is definitely the case here with regard to CRT. You 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,353 Posted March 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, dogcows said: The main goal of the Discovery Institute is to push “intelligent design.” Are you saying he chose to work there despite not buying into that? Here is the mission statement of the company. You’re going to be a senior research fellow at a think tank with this, and then try to claim you never believed it? Bull. He knowingly chose to be a “fellow” at this organization. Gimme a break saying there’s no evidence that he buys into it. Simply agreeing to do “research” for such an organization is evidence. I believe that the anti-CRT nonsense is simply the next step for this group’s agenda. They’ve basically lost the evolution debate, since the science is overwhelmingly against them. This is their latest attempt to push their agenda into schools. Seems like the goal is Christian nationalism? A 20-something out of college goes to work where the job offer comes from. The Discovery Institute didn't assign him to the whackadoodle circuit. They gave him something he likes. Then, in time, he gravitated towards something else he liked better. Well, I listen to this guy a lot and know for 100% certainty you don't know anything about what he believes. if you look at the part I've timestamped, 15:58, he's going to bat for a pair of top evolutionary biologists who he clearly admires. I'd say they'd be incredibly comfortable working for somebody who admires them greatly. The segment immediately before that was admiration for Jordan Peterson who embraces Darwinian evolution as a matter of course as well. You can either choose to believe your eyes and ears or what he says himself or stick with the lies whoever controls your brain told you about him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Voltaire said: A 20-something out of college goes to work where the job offer comes from. The Discovery Institute didn't assign him to the whackadoodle circuit. They gave him something he likes. Then, in time, he gravitated towards something else he liked better. Well, I listen to this guy a lot and know for 100% certainty you don't know anything about what he believes. if you look at the part I've timestamped, 15:58, he's going to bat for a pair of top evolutionary biologists who he clearly admires. I'd say they'd be incredibly comfortable working for somebody who admires them greatly. The segment immediately before that was admiration for Jordan Peterson who embraces Darwinian evolution as a matter of course as well. You can either choose to believe your eyes and ears or what he says himself or stick with the lies whoever controls your brain told you about him. I'm not sure what lies you’re referring to. Like it or not, part of who we are is who we align ourselves with. There might be some KKK members who aren’t racist. “Hey I just do the taxes!” But if you work (not as a janitor or cook, but as a research fellow) for a group whose mission is to push pseudo-scientific nonsense? You can’t just wash that off and pretend it never happened. Sorry, Mr. Rufo. Wanna go with the argument that Rufo isn’t in the evolution whackadoodle circuit (as if that makes his being in the organization irrelevant)? OK, but what he is doing is just as nutty. He is the genius who says it’s safer to have your kids alone with a Catholic priest than with their school teacher. He has drastically misrepresented what CRT is, his ideas on solving homelessness (supposedly his area of expertise) are beyond laughable, and he calls everything woke without thinking. He’s a religious zealot, not an educator, and definitely not qualified to be a board member at the New College. His Twitter account, just today, calls for students to be suspended or expelled for protesting a speaker at a university. Really? This is who you want running a college? Somebody who is going to expel students who peacefully protest? He’s unqualified, and his agenda includes shredding the first amendment. He is banning books, shuttering academic departments, firing professors who teach things he doesn’t personally find useful... but he will suspend or expel students for protesting, because he claims that is abridging the free speech of the person they protested against. Either he is too dense to see the hypocrisy there, or he just doesn’t give a as long as he gets what he personally wants. A loathsome human being. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,430 Posted March 12, 2023 5 hours ago, dogcows said: But that isn’t what is happening. Any individual parent can challenge as many books as they want. Any challenged book is immediately removed pending review. But the review is done by the school system, not the parents. It’s a perfect way for a person with an axe to grind to make life miserable for the school who has to review every request, and the teachers/librarians who have to remove the books. There are people who abuse the system. I would change such policies to at least require a certain number of signatures for each book and outline the specific objections to it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,543 Posted March 13, 2023 So there’s a bill filed in Florida that would abolish any political party that advocated for slavery. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,190 Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So there’s a bill filed in Florida that would abolish any political party that advocated for slavery. Lol. They need to tweak the definition of slavery to include modern day coercion and manipulation and repression of people by the left in this country. Just look at what is happening to the people in democrat run cities. That's about as close to slavery as there is in modern times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 330 Posted March 13, 2023 I remember having to have my parents sign a permission slip to see Romeo and Juliet, because boobies. Today's teachers would just tell us to forge our parents signatures and not tell them. Also they would have blue hair and wear a butt plug necklace like flava flav wears a clock. Also it would be Romeo and Julien. And it would be a story about destigmatizing STDs. Effing sickos. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,108 Posted March 13, 2023 I see the “always wrong” gang is back to attacking the messenger. If tomorrow Cori Bush came out against CRT, the left would label her a far right nazi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted March 13, 2023 5 hours ago, jonnyutah said: I remember having to have my parents sign a permission slip to see Romeo and Juliet, because boobies. Today's teachers would just tell us to forge our parents signatures and not tell them. Also they would have blue hair and wear a butt plug necklace like flava flav wears a clock. Also it would be Romeo and Julien. And it would be a story about destigmatizing STDs. Effing sickos. The distain for teachers as a whole is disgusting. It's sad when professions like police and teachers are losing good people left and right. Seems each team has a pet profession they love to crap on regularly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,217 Posted March 13, 2023 14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So there’s a bill filed in Florida that would abolish any political party that advocated for slavery. Lol. Awesome! Goodbye Democrats! Heck, they even fought a war to KEEP slavery! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites