Bye Bye Nikki

[Patented Phil 1,469]

In tennis they call this an unforced error.  In Presidential politics they call this the death spiral.

Game, set, match.

Haley seeks to clarify Civil War comments as backlash mounts

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,093]

Meh.  The biased media always tries to find something to get conservatives and they will amp it up to 50 to try to convince everyone that this is a really big deal.

They don't typically play this game with liberals. In fact, hardly ever. This is specifically a tactic for conservative candidates.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

It’ll help her in the south 

[Mike Honcho 5,269]

I thought about posting this earlier.  Her answer was terrible, and her follow-up today sucked too.

 

 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

Darling Nikki…

We hardly knew ya.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Is this where the Trumpers cancel her then try to blame the liberals for it?  

[squistion 2,197]

 

[thegeneral 3,208]

8 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Is this where the Trumpers cancel her then try to blame the liberals for it?  

Only works for Donald

[Mookz 1,346]

We've lost another geek?  

[GobbleDog 996]

How many Confederate soldiers would've said "I'm fighting so rich folks can own slaves!"? They fought for Southern rights.  My kin fought in that war (I have a framed picture of great-great grandpa in uniform) and he sure as hell didn't do it for slavery. It would've been gone by the turn of the century anyway, war or no war.

Sadly, the filthy Yanks won and Lincoln wasn't hung for being the war criminal he truly was.  God bless Booth. 

[The Real timschochet 6,757]

Politicians can still get in trouble for saying dumb crap….

except for Donald Trump. He’s the ultimate Teflon guy. Trump could have said that he supported slavery and wish the South had won, and his supporters still wouldn’t care. lol 

[Mike Honcho 5,269]

When I saw the thread title, I assume GettnHuge had killed the poster Nikki....Glad that's not the case. 

[Flipper 61]

6 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

How many Confederate soldiers would've said "I'm fighting so rich folks can own slaves!"? They fought for Southern rights.  My kin fought in that war (I have a framed picture of great-great grandpa in uniform) and he sure as hell didn't do it for slavery. It would've been gone by the turn of the century anyway, war or no war.

Sadly, the filthy Yanks won and Lincoln wasn't hung for being the war criminal he truly was.  God bless Booth. 

I thought the North were the good guys but I also believe what we were taught is not always the truth.  Point me to a good lesson supporting your take.

Perhaps she isn't a real America (like that other fella) ...

[Tree of Knowledge 1,855]

*TRUMP

 

 

 

*clinched

[seafoam1 3,017]

1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

I thought about posting this earlier.  Her answer was terrible, and her follow-up today sucked too.

 

 

Oh boy. What an amazing video. 

[squistion 2,197]

 

[The Real timschochet 6,757]

13 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

How many Confederate soldiers would've said "I'm fighting so rich folks can own slaves!"? They fought for Southern rights.  My kin fought in that war (I have a framed picture of great-great grandpa in uniform) and he sure as hell didn't do it for slavery. It would've been gone by the turn of the century anyway, war or no war.

Sadly, the filthy Yanks won and Lincoln wasn't hung for being the war criminal he truly was.  God bless Booth. 

This post is hilarious.  But actually there is some truth to your first paragraph. 90% of those who fought in the Confederacy didn’t own slaves. They fought, as a rebel soldier explained after Shiloh, “because you’re here.” 
 

But the rest of your post made me chuckle. Haven’t read such a good Lost Cause screed in a while. You might ask yourself some time what is meant by “Southern rights” and what right they were defending. Carry on. 

[5-Points 3,523]

Saying the Civil War was about slavery is like saying WWII was about the holocaust. 

Neither were the cause of either war. 

[jonmx 2,429]

24 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Politicians can still get in trouble for saying dumb crap….

except for Donald Trump. He’s the ultimate Teflon guy. Trump could have said that he supported slavery and wish the South had won, and his supporters still wouldn’t care. lol 

The usual dumb strawman.

[jonmx 2,429]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

Is this where the Trumpers cancel her then try to blame the liberals for it?  

What does Nikki have to do with Trump.   The only people excited about her were CNN, Newsweek and the New York Times who constantly pump her up as gaining on Trump.  She was the establishment candidate they were hoping to hoist up to beat Trump. 

[HellToupee 1,773]

[Patented Phil 1,469]

11 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Pierre Delecto

With a knife

In the Conservatory 

[League Champion 1,911]

If you know anything about History then you'd know that the Civil War had nothing to with Slavery

 Especially at that time, there wasn't a White Man in the World who was willing to die for a BLACK Person, especially since it was only the elite rich Whites who could afford to have slaves. 

It was about State rights and not letting the South leave the Union. At the time the South didn't need the North. 

SLAVERY WAS A GUISE FOR THE NORTH TO INVADE THE SOUTH. THE PROGRAMMED LIBERAL SHEEP WILL TELL YOU OTHERWISE. 

NIKKI HALEY IS AN A-HOLE BUT SHE'S NOT WRONG. 

[Gepetto 1,367]

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/reasons-secession

[The Real timschochet 6,757]

25 minutes ago, League Champion said:

If you know anything about History then you'd know that the Civil War had nothing to with Slavery

 Especially at that time, there wasn't a White Man in the World who was willing to die for a BLACK Person, especially since it was only the elite rich Whites who could afford to have slaves. 

It was about State rights and not letting the South leave the Union. At the time the South didn't need the North. 

SLAVERY WAS A GUISE FOR THE NORTH TO INVADE THE SOUTH. THE PROGRAMMED LIBERAL SHEEP WILL TELL YOU OTHERWISE. 

NIKKI HALEY IS AN A-HOLE BUT SHE'S NOT WRONG. 

It’s hard to get every sentence in an argument wrong. Usually there is a kernel of truth in even the worst of these. But you have succeeded in getting everything completely wrong. Everything you wrote here is the exact opposite of the truth. Congrats? 

[edjr 6,580]

1 hour ago, 5-Points said:

Saying the Civil War was about slavery is like saying WWII was about the holocaust. 

Neither were the cause of either war. 

If I were asked what the Civil War was about, I would 100% have said slavery.

If I were asked what WWII was about, I would have said stopping Hitler from taking over the world.

 

[squistion 2,197]

34 minutes ago, League Champion said:

If you know anything about History then you'd know that the Civil War had nothing to with Slavery

The Jim Crow laws enacted in the south after the Civil War prove otherwise.

[League Champion 1,911]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

The Jim Crow laws enacted in the south after the Civil War prove otherwise.

Democrats in the North segregated Blacks, even long after the Civil War. And they still do. 

Prove me wrong!

[The Real timschochet 6,757]

1 hour ago, League Champion said:

If you know anything about History then you'd know that the Civil War had nothing to with Slavery

 Especially at that time, there wasn't a White Man in the World who was willing to die for a BLACK Person, especially since it was only the elite rich Whites who could afford to have slaves. 

It was about State rights and not letting the South leave the Union. At the time the South didn't need the North. 

SLAVERY WAS A GUISE FOR THE NORTH TO INVADE THE SOUTH. THE PROGRAMMED LIBERAL SHEEP WILL TELL YOU OTHERWISE. 

NIKKI HALEY IS AN A-HOLE BUT SHE'S NOT WRONG. 

Let’s demonstrate how terrible this post is: 

1. Andrew Johnson, VP of the Confederacy, in explaining the reasons for the war in 1861, wrote that the main reason was slavery. The South were afraid that the Republicans would slowly strangle the Peculiar Institution. No modern historian, including those devoted to the Lost Cause, denies this, which makes your first statement completely absurd. 

2. Apparently you’ve never heard of the abolitionist movement. You might want to look it up. There were thousands of white men willing to die to free black men both before and during the war and many of them did. Also, although slavery was mostly a upper class affair, many slaves were owned by middle class and some even by lower class (for example Nathan Bedford Forrest.) 

3. The South left the Union for one and only one reason: the preservation of slavery. Your statement that the South didn’t need the North is probably the most absurd of all of your statements. Roughly 80% of all goods manufactured in the USA in 1860 came from northern factories. The south was hamstrung without this trade and its economy quickly crashed within months of the war starting, with mass starvation soon to follow. 

4. The north had no intention to invade the south until Fort Sumter was attacked. Even after that if the south had rejoined the Union there would have been no invasion. 
 

5. The “programmed liberal sheep” include all of our greatest Civil War historians, such as Bruce Catton, Shelby Foote, James McPhearson. You might want to read one or two of these. If you’re concerned about bias, Foote was a southerner. 
 

6. Nikki is the complete opposite of what you wrote: not an a hole but totally wrong about this. As are you. 
 

 

 

 

 

[5-Points 3,523]

37 minutes ago, edjr said:

If I were asked what the Civil War was about, I would 100% have said slavery.

If I were asked what WWII was about, I would have said stopping Hitler from taking over the world.

 

The abolition of slavery wasn't about freeing slaves, it was merely an attempt to bankrupt the South in order to force them to capitulate. 

Take Abe's words for example:

"I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality ... I will add to this that I have never seen, to my knowledge, a man, woman, or child who was in favor of producing a perfect equality, social and political, between negroes and white men."

 

Those don't strike me as the words of a man who felt that slavery was wrong. He simply wanted to take the labor force away from his opponent in order to make them easier to defeat. 

[Cdub100 3,903]

18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Let’s demonstrate how terrible this post is: 

1. Andrew Johnson, VP of the Confederacy, in explaining the reasons for the war in 1861, wrote that the main reason was slavery. The South were afraid that the Republicans would slowly strangle the Peculiar Institution. No modern historian, including those devoted to the Lost Cause, denies this, which makes your first statement completely absurd. 

2. Apparently you’ve never heard of the abolitionist movement. You might want to look it up. There were thousands of white men willing to die to free black men both before and during the war and many of them did. Also, although slavery was mostly a upper class affair, many slaves were owned by middle class and some even by lower class (for example Nathan Bedford Forrest.) 

3. The South left the Union for one and only one reason: the preservation of slavery. Your statement that the South didn’t need the North is probably the most absurd of all of your statements. Roughly 80% of all goods manufactured in the USA in 1860 came from northern factories. The south was hamstrung without this trade and its economy quickly crashed within months of the war starting, with mass starvation soon to follow. 

4. The north had no intention to invade the south until Fort Sumter was attacked. Even after that if the south had rejoined the Union there would have been no invasion. 
 

5. The “programmed liberal sheep” include all of our greatest Civil War historians, such as Bruce Catton, Shelby Foote, James McPhearson. You might want to read one or two of these. If you’re concerned about bias, Foote was a southerner. 
 

6. Nikki is the complete opposite of what you wrote: not an a hole but totally wrong about this. As are you. 
 

 

 

 

 

I wonder if most blacks know about the secret history of blacks and Jews...

Probably not because it's not a good one for the blacks.

[League Champion 1,911]

30 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Nikki is the complete opposite of what you wrote: not an a hole but totally wrong about this. As are you. 

I'm from SC. Do your homework and get back to me. She's a lying fraud, took blood money from Boeing and lied about everyone under the sun. 

Do your homework next time you make assinne statements. 

[HellToupee 1,773]

1 hour ago, League Champion said:

If you know anything about History then you'd know that the Civil War had nothing to with Slavery

 Especially at that time, there wasn't a White Man in the World who was willing to die for a BLACK Person, especially since it was only the elite rich Whites who could afford to have slaves. 

 

Also have to follow the money . The south had a huge economic advantage with labor costs 

[squistion 2,197]

3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I wonder if most blacks know about the secret history of blacks and Jews...

Probably not because it's not a good one for the blacks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Relationship_Between_Blacks_and_Jews

The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews is a three-volume work of pseudo-scholarship,^[7] published by the Nation of Islam.

[The Real timschochet 6,757]

6 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I wonder if most blacks know about the secret history of blacks and Jews...

Probably not because it's not a good one for the blacks.

It’s not that secret Mr. Jew hater. 
 

Jews fought on both sides of the Civil War. Some Jews owned slaves. Some tried to free them. Like everyone else, there are good and bad Jews. 

[Cdub100 3,903]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s not that secret Mr. Jew hater. 
 

Jews fought on both sides of the Civil War. Some Jews owned slaves. Some tried to free them. Like everyone else, there are good and bad Jews. 

A lot of Jews owned slaves.

[BeenHereBefore 1,517]

3 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

Darling Nikki…

We hardly knew ya.

Prince knew her well.

[squistion 2,197]

7 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

A lot of Jews owned slaves.

And Democrats started the KKK, which means absolutely nothing to blacks today.

[KSB2424 3,148]

I am not a Nikki Haley fan, if a GOP vote happens tomorrow she’s not my vote.  With that said, I hate “one time” gotcha moments.  

These candidates speak in public for hours most every day.  Has any Geek actually publicly spoke?  It’s very hard and easy to misspeak or have a brain fart. 

It’s the candidates that consistently do it where my spidey sense arises.  

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

4 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

How many Confederate soldiers would've said "I'm fighting so rich folks can own slaves!"? They fought for Southern rights.  My kin fought in that war (I have a framed picture of great-great grandpa in uniform) and he sure as hell didn't do it for slavery. It would've been gone by the turn of the century anyway, war or no war.

Sadly, the filthy Yanks won and Lincoln wasn't hung for being the war criminal he truly was.  God bless Booth. 

Yep