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3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Iran said they were complying.  I have it on theGeneral's - AND IRAN'S - word they were.  What's the issue?

I’m going off the IAEA’s assessment in 2018.

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38 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

It’s ok you all don’t have to think about this stuff. I understand.

I have no idea who the organization is from your link but...... We will assume that that is the most optimistic interpretation of events at the time.  Your own link says Iran wasn't being timely in allowing access to certain facilities, specifically military ones.  Then the international organization supposedly doing the monitoring says they were allowed access.  Iran says absolutely not.  So at best the data is unreliable.  As I said above I will take the conservative approach in that situation when the alternative is a bad actor getting nukes.  The reality is probably less optimistic than the link you provided.  I'm not going to go do research because I have a memory and my memory is very clear about international inspectors not being given access to sites. 

Look if you want to believe that a country needs to build a facility deep underground to enrich uranium for civilian purposes go for it.  I am not that naive.

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1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

It's official now. But was there ever any doubt? 

Not at all. I just like celebrating all the winning. 

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5 minutes ago, Strike said:

I have no idea who the organization is from your link but...... We will assume that that is the most optimistic interpretation of events at the time.  Your own link says Iran wasn't being timely in allowing access to certain facilities, specifically military ones.  Then the international organization supposedly doing the monitoring says they were allowed access.  Iran says absolutely not.  So at best the data is unreliable.  As I said above I will take the conservative approach in that situation when the alternative is a bad actor getting nukes.  The reality is probably less optimistic than the link you provided.  I'm not going to go do research because I have a memory and my memory is very clear about international inspectors not being given access to sites. 

Look if you want to believe that a country needs to build a facility deep underground to enrich uranium for civilian purposes go for it.  I am not that naive.

They are the ones whose data is being used to say that Iran now has all this enriched uranium. A few months ago our IC was saying they didn’t have a bomb program going.

Personally don’t have a problem blowing this stuff up. Pointing out Trump helped create this problem, we have no clue what is going to happen, this didn’t end anything and all this celebrating is crazy.

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The fockin UN said Iran wasn’t complying. And it wasn’t in 2018. 

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16 hours ago, peenie said:

We just bombed Iran, a country that didn’t bomb us, that was minding its own business until Israel (not part of the United States) attacked it.

 You all think this is correct and okay? 

IDGAF about the other theads. 

Now this is fun. I love watching the liberal's heads explode. 

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Iran was not a threat to the United States. Israel is NOT the United States. 

PEACE NOT WAR! 

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2 hours ago, peenie said:

Iran was not a threat to the United States. Israel is NOT the United States. 

PEACE NOT WAR! 

Translation: "Let's wait until a disastrous event happens until we take action on it."

This is peenies world.  The world of the blindingly "special" people. :dunno: 

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2 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Translation: "Let's wait until a disastrous event happens until we take action on it."

This is peenies world.  The world of the blindingly "special" people. :dunno: 

Next month Egypt will be the threat, then it’ll be Lebanon…

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13 hours ago, peenie said:

I wonder how many innocent lives were lost? 

0 casualties from U.S. bombings in Iran occurred- confirmed by Iran

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20 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

Iran has claimed for decades to be enriching uranium for peaceful energy purposes only. In early June, the International Atomic Energy Agency reported Iran was not complying with non-proliferation obligations. They wouldn't cooperate with inspectors, tried to hide enrichment facilities, and could not/would not explain why uranium particles were discovered at various locations (after they tried to clean those areas to hide their existence). Based on the Atomic Energy reports, it appears Iran is dangerously close to building several nuclear bombs.

What should Israel and the US do about it?  Countries that Iran has specifically called for their destruction.

I'm not saying what Trump did was right or wrong (I'm no Trump fan), but understand the reasoning. Not as simple as "a country that didn’t bomb us, that was minding its own business until we bombed them."  

As much as I loathe Trump, I'm reserving judgment on this until facts come out. 

Iran has been a doosh nation for decades, and I'm hoping this was the right thing to do based on rock-solid evidence.

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19 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said:

As much as I loathe Trump, I'm reserving judgment on this until facts come out. 

Iran has been a doosh nation for decades, and I'm hoping this was the right thing to do based on rock-solid evidence.

Good posting Rusty

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21 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

Iran has claimed for decades to be enriching uranium for peaceful energy purposes only. In early June, the International Atomic Energy Agency reported Iran was not complying with non-proliferation obligations. They wouldn't cooperate with inspectors, tried to hide enrichment facilities, and could not/would not explain why uranium particles were discovered at various locations (after they tried to clean those areas to hide their existence). Based on the Atomic Energy reports, it appears Iran is dangerously close to building several nuclear bombs.

What should Israel and the US do about it?  Countries that Iran has specifically called for their destruction.

I'm not saying what Trump did was right or wrong (I'm no Trump fan), but understand the reasoning. Not as simple as "a country that didn’t bomb us, that was minding its own business until we bombed them."  

Trump was the one who backed out of the deal that led to this. Maybe it would have gotten there eventually but that killed it 100%.

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14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Many on Oct 7 

I don want to go here but just go to your browser and search each day in october ... October 1 ... October 2 ... etc.

Tell me which day evokes a response other than 'October 'x'' ...

Seems rather scripted

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Peenie, you should stay out of these topics. You are the epitome of knee jerk reaction to headlines. Focus your energy on what actually matters in your life.

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10 hours ago, peenie said:

Next month Egypt will be the threat, then it’ll be Lebanon…

Never heard a peep from you during obama.

Face it. You hate conservative white people. TDS has taken over your life. 

 

Countries bombed by the U.S. under the Obama administration

Afghanistan

Pakistan

Libya

Yemen

Somalia

Iraq

Syria

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My favorite is she posted the question at 12:00 am, then says "See, crickets!" when no one responds right away.  :lol:

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On 6/22/2025 at 12:43 AM, peenie said:

that was minding its own business

you lost right here. 

 

but i'll go in another direction and ask if you were okay with the Biden/Harris administrations handling of Russia/Ukraine. I'm guessing you were blindly okay with it because it was Biden/Harris.... But I mean in the sense that their stance was zero negotiation, but also would not step in and thwart Russia with troops because they did not want a declaration of war... instead sending constant funding to Ukraine for a war they coudn't(cant) win unless we actually step in, which only serves to further the loss of life. But as long as it gives liberal Americans the opportunity to put "we stand with Ukraine" signs on their lawn, I guess :dunno:

I am not necessarily supporting Trumps decision but i'm certainly not condemning it. Sometimes real action needs to be taken. 

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20 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

In before 🍆  pulls an 🍆 on this thread. 

#metoo

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On 6/22/2025 at 10:08 AM, 5-Points said:

I saw a documentary about this phenomenon a few years ago. 

 

You don't need a movie, documentary, biopic or anything alike... just go to the northern New England states or even Canada.  They're like 90% white.  You literally could go your whole life and almost never meet a minority.... and that's today, not in the 80's or 90's or earlier.

I think Maine is like 90% with Vermont and New Hampshire being around 88%.  Cross the border to Newfoundland and they're almost 100% white.  They're so white, that their "diversity" is in what way are you white.

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On 6/22/2025 at 10:48 AM, peenie said:

First of all, I lived in California and there most definitely is an accent. Maybe what one heard in the movies or television is exaggerated but yes, there was and is an accent. Stop calling me names. 

What, you moved to Georgia after that, because you saw too much racism there too... just like in North Jersey?

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Why are you guys mentioning white people and racism? This is not about black and white relations in the United States. Please drop it. 

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14 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Peenie, you should stay out of these topics. You are the epitome of knee jerk reaction to headlines. Focus your energy on what actually matters in your life.

Okay...perhaps you are right. 😔

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2 minutes ago, peenie said:

Okay...perhaps you are right. 😔

I think it's okay for you to want to have discussions about current events. 

But as I've learned, if you're going to post it here, be ready to back up your claims and what you "think" is happening vs what's "really" happening. 

 

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16 hours ago, peenie said:

Next month Egypt will be the threat, then it’ll be Lebanon…

We're buds with Egypt.  Hell, we sell them weapons, dummy.  Or will they become a threat because they have a regional dialect?

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2 hours ago, peenie said:

Why are you guys mentioning white people and racism? This is not about black and white relations in the United States. Please drop it. 

The posts were about racism, yes, but the reason why it was started, was YOUR post.

 

Are you telling me that the person taking care of your lawn was a white American Citizen and his disappearance is purely coincidental?   If not, then race was clearly implied.  His response was about a Mexican's, as really, was mine.  We also didn't really make it about black and white.

 

My other post was about your history.  I remember you claiming that you were a Democrat in part because of racism that you encountered living in New Jersey.  The area you lived in, is, was, and always has been a liberal mecca.  If you ran into racism, it was most likely by a Democrat.  California is no different that the part of NJ you lived in.  I was just curious if you ran into racism in that liberal mecca as well.  I mean, when you leave 2 dark blue states and end up in a red one, I'm just curious as to how you work that out.

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The religious beliefs held by the Iranian leadership doesn't lend itself to political discussions.  We were all hopeful that they would take heed of Pres Trump's warnings.  The reason mutually-assured-destruction tactics work with atheists like Russia is that "if you send a nuke at us, we can get one sent at you in time too, so nobody survives."  That's not how the apocalyptic plan works for the militant Iranians.  They feel if they can get the big war with Israel started, their Hidden Imam will return.  I know, nutty.  However, when we begin to understand "how" they are thinking, and "why," the mantra that "Iran can never have a nuclear weapon" makes good sense for the rest of the planet.  

 

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6 minutes ago, BudBro said:

The religious beliefs held by the Iranian leadership doesn't lend itself to political discussions.  We were all hopeful that they would take heed of Pres Trump's warnings.  The reason mutually-assured-destruction tactics work with atheists like Russia is that "if you send a nuke at us, we can get one sent at you in time too, so nobody survives."  That's not how the apocalyptic plan works for the militant Iranians.  They feel if they can get the big war with Israel started, their Hidden Imam will return.  I know, nutty.  However, when we begin to understand "how" they are thinking, and "why," the mantra that "Iran can never have a nuclear weapon" makes good sense for the rest of the planet.  

 

Great post. People that are practical know that Islam is a death cult and Iran is HQ. They can not posses the ability to bring about doomsday. 

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6 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

You don't need a movie, documentary, biopic or anything alike... just go to the northern New England states or even Canada.  They're like 90% white.  You literally could go your whole life and almost never meet a minority.... and that's today, not in the 80's or 90's or earlier.

I think Maine is like 90% with Vermont and New Hampshire being around 88%.  Cross the border to Newfoundland and they're almost 100% white.  They're so white, that their "diversity" is in what way are you white.

That movie was hilarious. Best unintentional comedy ever. 

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On 6/22/2025 at 8:16 AM, peenie said:

Our country is being run by a bunch of cowardly lemmings headed by an egomaniac. I had no clue that people I once respected are nothing more than fearful brown-nosers. 
I may be emotional, but at least I’m questioning, I’m not rash and blindly accepting. I wonder how many innocent lives were lost? 

You are rash......look at the post you started & the premise around it. Letting Iran develope nuclear weapons is akin to giving a loaded gun to a toddler & sending them into a room full of kids. Iran has vowed to destroy Israel & the US. Iran setting off a nuke in Israel would set the whole middle east, if not the whole world, on fire. Unlike the Iraq WMD's.......there is OVERWHELMING evidence that Iran is enriching plutonium....WEAPONS GRADE PLUTONIUM. They are no longer cooperating with the UN mandated inspections. Traces have been found at multiple locations. And to top off your ignorant post....the 1973 War Powers Resolution gives Trump EXACTLY THE AUTHORITY TO DO WHAT HE DID. You & people like you ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. You are ignorant of fact, can't think logically, are run by your emotions & $hit out your mouth when you want to be heard.

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On 6/22/2025 at 12:43 AM, peenie said:

We just bombed Iran, a country that didn’t bomb us, that was minding its own business until Israel (not part of the United States) attacked it.

 You all think this is correct and okay? 

IDGAF about the other theads. 

If I complained about this attack when I did not complain when Obama did it then I would sorta be a hypocrit.....so all good

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10 hours ago, Nomad99 said:

You are rash......look at the post you started & the premise around it. Letting Iran develope nuclear weapons is akin to giving a loaded gun to a toddler & sending them into a room full of kids. Iran has vowed to destroy Israel & the US. Iran setting off a nuke in Israel would set the whole middle east, if not the whole world, on fire. Unlike the Iraq WMD's.......there is OVERWHELMING evidence that Iran is enriching plutonium....WEAPONS GRADE PLUTONIUM. They are no longer cooperating with the UN mandated inspections. Traces have been found at multiple locations. And to top off your ignorant post....the 1973 War Powers Resolution gives Trump EXACTLY THE AUTHORITY TO DO WHAT HE DID. You & people like you ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. You are ignorant of fact, can't think logically, are run by your emotions & $hit out your mouth when you want to be heard.

Nomination for "Post of the Year".

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