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... ALL of you tone down the temperature and stop with the personal attacks or you won't be posting here much longer.

that all his voters are as big of retards as you

I'm sure this is a waste of time since you'll dismiss all of it, but if you're being honest, here goes... no one knows what he WILL do. Likely or possible, yeah, he's told us. Economy: tariffs, tax cuts for wealthy, exploding debt... Foreign relations: Give Ukraine and other European countries to Putin, abandon NATO, partner with dictators he has professed love for. Threats of war with Iran, love of nuclear war and threats to be the first to launch. Project 2025: there is a whole thread on this, but getting rid of govt employees that voted Democrat and replacing with Trumpers, removal of women's rights, abortion, IVF, contraception, Christian nationalism... Revenge: he wants to use his power to jail anyone who disagrees with him. Illegals: round up and deport 11 million people. Corruption: history of bribes with foreign nationals. Lunacy: hes an unhinged malignant narcissist and we don't know truly what he might do. Just off the top of my head.

I still don’t think Trump is going to win, but he’s tied in the polls and the momentum for now appears to be on his side. So I have to consider it a strong possibility. Ugh. Even so I remain an optimist. Here’s what I think and hope if that happens: 1. Trump has promised a 20% tariff on all imports from all countries, higher on China. My friend @jerryskids assures me this will never actually happen, that it’s simply a starting point in a negotiation to get other countries to trade with us more fairly. So I’m going to hope that he is right about this. Or, if he is wrong, I’m going to trust that the immediate economic backlash of such actions will force Trump to withdraw the tariffs shortly after he has enforced them. 2. Trump has promised to institute mass deportation of undocumented immigrants. For that he needs money, tons of it, and the willingness of Congress to go along. Ultimately he won’t get it. There will be a lot of fear and IMO bad results as he reinstates some of the awful executive orders from his previous term. Eventually we will have a more comprehensive solution to this issue but that will have to wait. 3. We will cut off aid to Ukraine. That WILL happen and it likely means Ukraine will have to concede large areas of territory to Russia ala the Munich conference of 1938. Trump may also pull out of NATO. Trump may also refuse to defend Taiwan and refuse to defend South Korea. Expect an isolationist push around the world, except for Israel which we will unequivocally support no matter what actions they take. Conservatives apparently believe this will make us safer (or at least it won’t harm us). I doubt that but I will hope they’re right. 4. Trump will seek a tax cut but he’ll only get one if the House stays Republican, which is a 50/50 bet. Either way so long as the tariffs and trade war are avoided the economy should continue to improve as we are a robust nation and capitalism works. Trump will take credit but I don’t care; I want good things to happen always and it disgusts me when people, including those on my side, root for bad things to happen because the wrong guy is President. So hopefully the economy booms. But if Trump gets his tariffs you can throw that all out the window. 5. Liberals fear that Trump will end our democracy. I’ve never believed this. He is an authoritarian and he will attempt to weaponize the DOJ (no it is not weaponized now) to punish his enemies. These attempts will likely fail. 6. Conservatives expect a Trump victory will mean an end to all of the woke culture they detest about modern American society. That won’t happen. Woke is mostly inevitable change, and IMO positive change. Transgenders, gays, women, blacks, will continue to gain more and more rights even during the next 4 years despite attempts to slow that down. Eventually women will regain the right to abortion once again everywhere in this country. I’m extremely confident about this. Just may take a little longer. 7. The argument over climate change will be unaffected because there’s not much difference in policy between the two parties. Harris’ current views on fracking represents a truth that liberals will never admit: no matter how bad climate change gets we will never try to fight it by punishing big industry and the consumer. It will never happen. At some point some President is going to wake up and propose a huge investment into nuclear energy, and particularly nuclear fusion. If that’s Trump then despite everything else he could still go down as one of our greatest Presidents. So that’s all for now. If Trump wins I will wish him well because I wish this country well and he will be my President. I will hope for the best.

He’s one the top 5 posters in this forum. His political analysis is usually dead on.

ABC isn’t defending themselves at all. Nor should they. This has never been a better time for the legitimacy of the mainstream media.

I gotta admit, I'm blown away that full grown adult males would vote Democrat to make their lives worse because they hate Trump. I'm pushing 50 and live in the Midwest, I'm gonna vacation in Florida and try to distance myself from the bs for the rest of my life. That's all I can do, the left is destroying this country and I'm bummed out about it but, I'll be shielded from it for the most part. I feel bad for the rest of you but, you support this garbage. So, fock you.

I’d have to read up on the details before I can offer an opinion. But anything that encourages homeownership and brings undocumented immigrants out of the shadows can’t be that bad.

And there it is.....3 words, that's all it took. If someone doesn't agree with your politics....they're a baby. If someone doesn't want to run their business out of a state that gives no sanctity to parents....they're a baby. Your outlook on how things should be is exactly why this country is in the mess it is today & why people are so alarmed. I can't wait for the day they take away something you care about & watch you cry......like a baby.

This one is really simple, the Biden administration attempted to turn the US into a Banana Republic. The grown-ups had to step in and remedy the situation. Democrats only have themselves to blame and have proven time and time again that they simply can't be trusted with power. If you support the current day version of the Democrat party, you are absolutely part of the problem. You don't care about America or what it stands for. The sooner we realize this, the better.

NEW YORK (AP) — They have millions of followers online. They have been major players in right-wing political discourse since Donald Trump was president. And they worked unknowingly for a company that was a front for a Russian influence operation, U.S. prosecutors say. An indictment filed Wednesday alleges a media company linked to six conservative influencers — including well-known personalities Tim Pool, Dave Rubin and Benny Johnson — was secretly funded by Russian state media employees to churn out English-language videos that were “often consistent” with the Kremlin’s “interest in amplifying U.S. domestic divisions in order to weaken U.S. opposition” to Russian interests, like its war in Ukraine. In addition to marking the third straight presidential election in which U.S. authorities have unveiled politically charged details about Russia’s attempted interference in U.S. politics, an indictment indicates how Moscow may be attempting to capitalize on the skyrocketing popularity of right-wing podcasters, livestreamers and other content creators who have found successful careers on social media in the years since Trump was in office. https://apnews.com/article/russian-interference-presidential-election-influencers-trump-999435273dd39edf7468c6aa34fad5dd

On Earth 1 (the real world which exists outside of the right wing echo chamber) CNN is non-partisan and the moderators are excellent neutral journalists. Which is why the Trumpers think it’s unfair.

We already have The Cowboys and Giants, how much gayer can it get?

Not a look at me, but several of you have reached out and I certainly appreciate it. And not to leave people hanging I may update here or there as things progress because some of you genuinely seem to care. I had a work trip planned this week, which didn't leave my daughter many options but my mom has taken her in and she seems to be responding well. It seems like she understands the consequence of her actions, but she's also dealing with the fact that not many people trust her (really just me and my mom left at this point, and even we don't see eye to eye on everything). My wife has been listening and understanding and trying to see where I'm coming from on this. Because I think she knows that my daughter needs her dad, and she doesn't always react well to triggers, that she has a go bag to stay at her mom's for a night if my daughter needs a place to sleep at our house. I realize that's not ideal, but we also don't think leaving my daughter without options is a good idea right now either. I think I've got my daughter to agree to see a counselor. And I'm trying to explain to her that building back trust of others is a process, won't be quick, will be hard and any setbacks mean your start back at ground zero. In terms of figuring out how to settle out the totaled car, identifying an attorney, and working on her next car (I know, short term goals) she's very independent and handling much of that without any of my assistance. I say that cognizant of the opportunity that exists for me to be enabling to her, which I'm trying to avoid. But she is independent, head strong and doesn't always need help from others. At least I think she likes to think that's the case and seems to appreciate the attention of making others think she's completely on her own on everything. Still need to with through long term plans like housing and career goals and whatnot, but I feel better than I did Sunday. I appreciate those of you who have offered me support and encouragement. It means a lot.

It wasn't anywhere close to a draw. Vance clearly won, and Walz was a supplicant beta, nodding along with Vance in hope that he didn't have to match with with him. Vance passed the test as VP and heir to Trump should he not last the entire term. He also came off as somebody who will soften Trump's rhetoric in actual implementation. It's hard to imagine that any undecided watched that and decided to vote for Harris/Walz.

Anyone notice a trend here? This foul cretin packs more fudge than the Hershey Company.

First comment on that post: ♫ When the eel's in your butt and then chews through your gut, that's a moray ♬

What's it like being a retard and a senior citizen? You don't see that sort of thing very often, here's to overcoming the odds.

Yeah, sorry Squiz. We realize you were told by your party masters to run in here and spread the propaganda talking points of the day, but there is a huge chasm between Biden "old" and Trump "old". Trump still has his faculties, doesn't sh#t his pants several times a day, makes his own decisions, knows what day it is and what room he's in. I mean, you tried. I'll give you a "D" for effort.

Makes sense, he accomplished all his goals in only 4 years, might as well ride off in the sunset a winner.

Joe Biden.

It’s actually a fair question. First off let’s be clear: if Trump wins the election I will wish him well, congratulate his supporters and hope for the best. As before he will be my President and I don’t take that lightly. I want him to succeed in the goal of increasing American safety and prosperity, and if he can accomplish that I will cheer him and be content. I will only oppose Trump if he does bad things. Based on his history I expect him to do so. 1. I believe Trump will weaponize the Department of Justice to go after his political enemies. That is not being done now, has never been done before (though both Nixon and Trump tried). I expect this time Trump will succeed. 2. Trump will attempt to forcibly deport millions of undocumented Americans. This attempt will fail but even the attempt will create untold misery and a great stain on this nations history as well as being an economic disaster. 3. Trump’s tariffs will bring this economy to a screeching halt. 4. Trump will cut off aid to Ukraine, leading to a quick Russian victory and almost guaranteeing a future war in Central Europe which we will be unable to stay out of, 5, Trump’s Project 2025 will strip away consumer protections and generally be a disaster, especially to FEMA and the CDC. The next emergency we face, whatever it is, we will be totally unprepared for. 6. Finally Trump would like to dismantle our Constitution and be a dictator- not just on day one but for the rest of his life. He will not succeed at this but the attempt will be highly damaging and painful . We will survive another Trump term. It won’t be the end of the USA. But it will be highly unpleasant, Id prefer to avoid it.

The media is lying so badly on the polling. Kamala knows the truth. She is losing nationally. She is losing in PA. She is losing is MI and WI. She is losing in GA and AZ. All these early BS polls the elitist media hoists upon the public are lame attempts try to prop up the Democrat base. Unless Kamala can flip GA and PA, it is going to be an election bloodbath for Kamala. Kamala knows she needs a debate to win.

Yeah definitely same as 60 killed and 400 wounded at Las Vegas concert shooting, you focking moron

Talk about a useful idiot... So I question the trustworthiness of the FBI because of how they handled the hunter laptop. You get hung up because I said "concluded" instead of "purposely misled people into thinking it was disinformation" Point is the same, dummy, but instead of acknowledging the FBI is carrying out political agendas, you focus on my wording on an informal fantasy football board. You're a politicians dream. You're part of the army of useful idiots that won't allow us to hold people responsible for that type of behavior.