The *** OFFICIAL *** Presidential Debate Thread!

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Personally, I thought Obama came off as very reasonable, while Romney came off as a smug PR!ck.

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Even Carville is saying Ronney had s good night - said Romney looked like he wanted to be there and Obama did not.

[The Moz 69]

Bill Maher even says Obama lost his ass

[The Moz 69]

? is did america watch? if they did this might just be a race afterall

[gocolts 300]

Even Carville is saying Ronney had s good night - said Romney looked like he wanted to be there and Obama did not.

Shapton and company on MSNBC are coming unglued.

[redtodd 7]

I think it is pretty obvious Mitt won tonight. One way to tell, I all the liberals on my Facebook page are quiet.

 

Three random observations:

 

1) Obama looked tired at the end. He did these slow blinks at one point that made me wonder, if he was going to doze off. In all fairness, Mitt has the advantage of being unemployed while debating....Obama needs to still be President.

 

2) How much plastic surgery has Jim the Moderator had? Really uncomfortable to watch.

 

3) Both candidates were impressive in their post debate conduct. Cool to see them BSing a little after with the families. I don't recall seeing that in the past.

 

So the score is Romney 1-0. I would think Obama will come out stronger in Round 2.

[sheadtoo 1]

I'm one of the really in the middle guys and after watching and listening Romney won the debate Obama didn't even really try it seemed. I feel like this was the "Republican" debate (the one they wanted topics ect.) To me at this point Romeny's public image is still hurting him. I said earlier he reminds me of Gordon Gekko and I have trouble getting past that. I think he'd run the country that way. I'm still

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Not one Obamatard coming in here to say Obama won.

 

Interesting.

[5-Points 3,566]

Do the conservative geeks feel like Romney pushed to the center in this debate?

 

What did you like and dislike about what he said?

I think it was just him explaining his positions first hand. You got to hear it from him so it seems reasonable. I was more surprised about how comfortable and confident he came across in his explanations. That hasn't been the norm.

[jets24 6]

Even Carville is saying Ronney had s good night - said Romney looked like he wanted to be there and Obama did not.

 

Carville better be careful with Thanksgiving coming up. When people see that neck of his, they may get him confused with a focking turkey. Yikes. It's like an eclipse. I can't stop looking at it.

[Gepetto 1,371]

Personally, I thought Obama came off as very reasonable, while Romney came off as a smug PR!ck.

 

 

It was actually quite the opposite. Obama had a smirk on his face. Obama tried to be laid back but he came across as being uncomforable. He didn't answer any question he was asked. You're devotion to your messiah has twisted your mind. It's sad, really.

[Brett M 0]

I feel like this was the "Republican" debate (the one they wanted topics ect.)

I don't understand this sentiment at all. The topics discussed are easily won by Republicans because the economy is in disarray. Romney had the upper hand because of the damage that has been done over the past four years. But the moderator is the host of a PBS "news" program. A government program that Romney stated tonight he would cut.

[cbfalcon 825]

I didn't watch, but have read a couple articles already.

 

The consensus seems to be: Romney controlled the debate and got to say what he wanted to say. Obama made no major mistakes, but was mostly on the defensive all night.

 

Sound about right? If so, that would obviously make Romney the winner tonight in round 1.

[mobb_deep 920]

I'm one of the really in the middle guys and after watching and listening Romney won the debate Obama didn't even really try it seemed. I feel like this was the "Republican" debate (the one they wanted topics ect.) To me at this point Romeny's public image is still hurting him. I said earlier he reminds me of Gordon Gekko and I have trouble getting past that. I think he'd run the country that way. I'm still

 

If the real Romney is the guy we saw tonight, I'd heavily consider voting for him. I thought he came off very moderate. He seemed to mostly agree with Obama, on needing federal regulation of the banks and saying "wall street regulation is essential". He said he liked most of Dodd Frank and a lot of it "made all the sense in the world". That's all news to me, and in stark contrast to the message on his actual website. There he says he'll "tear down the vast edifice of regulations the Obama administration has imposed" and "Repeal Dodd-Frank and replace with streamlined, modern regulatory framework". The same regulations that weren't in place, that lead to the housing and market bust that followed. Like most things Romney, I find myself still wondering what he really believes.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Not one Obamatard coming in here to say Obama won.

 

Interesting.

I think Romney won on "style" points. But on substance, he is a joke. He promises the impossible with no data. Cut taxes, increase military, no deficit growth?

[BunnysBastatrds 2,450]

Que the excuses from the Obama camp.......

 

1- He hasn't been able to spend the practicing time for debating like Romney has because he's presiding over the free world.

2- The moderator did a horrible job.

3- We told you not to expect to much from this debate.

4- He was tired from banging Michelle up to the debate and it weakend the legs. Should have listened to Mick's advice. Maybe should have eaten some raw eggs

5- Had to keep reminding himself not say "pacifics" instead of "specefics".

 

This was a route on Romneys part and I can't believe I'm saying this. Romney took control from the start and Obama was on the defensive for most of the night. Looked like he was above being there and Romney took advantage.

 

I expect most Obama supporters by lunch tomorrow will be pissed that Obama didn't hit more "softballs out of the park" that Romney gave him. When you hear that from his own supporters, you'll know who won the debate from their perspective even though they will say Obama won big. Watching the body langauge from the pundits says it all.

 

Romney-1

Obama-0

[gocolts 300]

I don't understand this sentiment at all. The topics discussed are easily won by Republicans because the economy is in disarray. Romney had the upper hand because of the damage that has been done over the past four years. But the moderator is the host of a PBS "news" program. A government program that Romney stated tonight he would cut.

THat will throw a wrench in the Romney doesn't have the guts to say what he will cut nonsense they have been spewing.

[jerryskids 6,827]

If the real Romney is the guy we saw tonight, I'd heavily consider voting for him. I thought he came off very moderate. He seemed to mostly agree with Obama, on needing federal regulation of the banks and saying "wall street regulation is essential". He said he liked most of Dodd Frank and a lot of it "made all the sense in the world". That's all news to me, and it stark contrast to the message on his actual website. There he says he'll "tear down the vast edifice of regulations the Obama administration has imposed" and "Repeal Dodd-Frank and replace with streamlined, modern regulatory framework". The same regulations that weren't in place, that lead to the housing and market bust that followed.

I missed 95% of the debate, but responding to your comment: I've stated here before that I believe Romney is more moderate than he has come off to date, which was necessary to get the Republican nomination.

[5-Points 3,566]

It was almost like Romney was the incumbent and Obama was the challenger. It's only one debate but Romney did a lot to further his cause tonight imo.

[GettnHuge 2]

If the real Romney is the guy we saw tonight, I'd heavily consider voting for him. I thought he came off very moderate.

 

is there a repub electored anywhere in Mass that isn't a moderate?

[gocolts 300]

I think Romney won on "style" points. But on substance, he is a joke. He promises the impossible with no data. Cut taxes, increase military, no deficit growth?

Are you focking kidding me??? Your going to use promises against ROMNEY??? :lol:

[sheadtoo 1]

I don't understand this sentiment at all. The topics discussed are easily won by Republicans because the economy is in disarray. Romney had the upper hand because of the damage that has been done over the past four years. But the moderator is the host of a PBS "news" program. A government program that Romney stated tonight he would cut.

I was referring to the idea there is one red one blue and one independent debate like in previous years. This felt like it was the one the Republicans wanted....I could be completely wrong but its how it felt to me.

[mobb_deep 920]

I missed 95% of the debate, but responding to your comment: I've stated here before that I believe Romney is more moderate than he has come off to date, which was necessary to get the Republican nomination.

 

True. He did govern Masshole very moderately. Even borderline liberally...

 

I'd like to know more about his proposed tax cuts for the mc and what tax loopholes he intends to close. Sort of weird that he wants to close tax loopholes, when he won't release his returns, because we'll see he's using those very same tax loopholes.

 

I'm also curious about how he wants to reform the education system, as that's something very near and dear to me.

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I think Romney won on "style" points. But on substance, he is a joke. He promises the impossible with no data. Cut taxes, increase military, no deficit growth?

Dude. Just bow out of the thread.

 

Not even Bill Maher and James Carville agree with you.

[Little Rusty 18]

Absolute SLAM DUNK for Romney!!!

 

If this was a fight it would have been called in the second round.

 

 

[kutulu 1,680]

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.

[gocolts 300]

Dude. Just bow out of the thread.

 

Not even Bill Maher and James Carville agree with you.

Focking Ed Shultz just said that Obama had a commanding lead coming in to tonight and let Mitt back in this race.

 

He also said he is not buying this nonsense that OBama was not ready for the debate and has had plenty of debates.

 

ED FOCKING SHULTZ ON MSNBC!!!! :shocking:

[DankNuggs 305]

Romney seemed like he snorted an 8-ball before the debate.

 

Obamas best attribute was his demeanor. Very cool, calm and collected while getting his azz handed to him

 

Big moment in the campaign

 

Let's remember next debate is Ryan Biden lololo

[DankNuggs 305]

Focking Ed Shultz just said that Obama had a commanding lead coming in to tonight and let Mitt back in this race.

 

He also said he is not buying this nonsense that OBama was not ready for the debate and has had plenty of debates.

 

ED FOCKING SHULTZ ON MSNBC!!!! :shocking:

CNN was saying Obama getting curbstomped was good for him lol

[naomi 356]

Personally, I thought Obama came off as very reasonable, while Romney came off as a smug PR!ck.

 

I don't know of as sharp a critic of Romney's demeanor than myself, except for maybe Voltaire, and he gained major respect points there tonight for me.

 

I'm wondering if his more natural element is duking it out with direct challengers, rather than getting into things on his own sidelines/preaching to the choir.

 

It seemed like his Achilles heel was going to be pushing Jim Lehrer's patience as far as it could go.

 

The moment when he said "poor kids" and then immediately looked crestfallen, and corrected himself with "low income" was wince worthy, for his sake. He should have left it at poor (not a big deal), but I understand why fear washed over him there.

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 40]

True. He did govern Masshole very moderately. Even borderline liberally...

 

I'd like to know more about his proposed tax cuts for the mc and what tax loopholes he intends to close. Sort of weird that he wants to close tax loopholes, when he won't release his returns, because we'll see he's using those very same tax loopholes.

 

I'm also curious about how he wants to reform the education system, as that's something very near and dear to me.

Seriously? If there's a tax loophole there, you would not take advantage of it? I certainly have. Didn't feel good about it but, $ is $. Closing the loopholes is HUGE.

[5-Points 3,566]

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.

I thought it was when he gave women a mouth and an opinion.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

 

 

I'd like to know more about his proposed tax cuts for the mc and what tax loopholes he intends to close. Sort of weird that he wants to close tax loopholes, when he won't release his returns,

 

 

Seriously? Have you been in a cave the past month?

[drobeski 3,061]

Replaying it on CNN jerry, i think

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Seriously? If there's a tax loophole there, you would not take advantage of it? I certainly have. Didn't feel good about it but, $ is $. Closing the loopholes is HUGE.

Do you REALLY believe he will close them? No focking way!

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Do you REALLY believe he will close them? No focking way!

Worked for Reagan in the 80s. Lowered rates, and eliminated a sh!t-ton of loopholes. The economy went through the roof and tax revenues skyrocketed.

 

No reason it won't work again.

 

BTW, what is your Hero's details for turning his putric 1.3% economy around?

[gocolts 300]

Worked for Reagan in the 80s. Lowered rates, and eliminated a sh!t-ton of loopholes. The economy went through the roof and tax revenues skyrocketed.

 

No reason it won't work again.

 

BTW, what is your Hero's details for turning his putric 1.3% economy around?

Maybe we can get another 45 months of 8+% unemployment. :thumbsdown:

[Phurfur 70]

a few minutes ago Romney killed him -- still in disbelief how well Romney is doing

 

He was debating with an unarmed man.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,450]

Do you REALLY believe he will close them? No focking way!

 

 

As a small business owner, he will do more for me and my small bidness than you will. Way!!!

[gocolts 300]

Replaying it on CNN jerry, i think

I am watching it again. It was funny when Romney owned him on the oil production and the pipe line and all that sh1t Obama had a chance respond and said lets talk about taxes.