IndyFan 2 Posted December 31, 2012 Romo - great in games that don't matter. He is who we thought he was Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted December 31, 2012 How many times does Jones/Garrett have to see this? Do they really think this big game choking thing is coincidence? They should have started Orton. Romo is a lock for three picks in games of this magnitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 06 195 Posted December 31, 2012 I'd take Eli and Ben off this list. Cam belongs in there. I'd argue Stafford despite the poor year should be in as well. Romo, despite his failures, is a top 10 qb, mainly because the Cowboys are always playing from behind. As Cris Collinsworth said tonight, when Romo's career is done, he's either going to be a Super Bowl winner or a "Yeah, but...". (Can't this be said of ANY QB?) His inability to win the big games - most notably the "win and you're in" ones - is going to follow him around until he ever does win a Super Bowl. Sort of like the way it was with Elway. I can't take Eli off of that list and put Stafford in there. Stafford, or as I've heard him called, "Stat Paddington", has never come up big in any spot. He only really puts up big numbers because they're throwing 50 times a game. Eli played his best when the spotlight was on, so I'll leave him on. I could live with putting Cam in over Ben. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglecrusherspart2 2 Posted December 31, 2012 Romo is in a contract year I believe. I think it's time for the cowboys to look elsewhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,423 Posted December 31, 2012 Elway at least won playoff games, he just couldn't finish. Romo has one playoff win and a ton of chokes. My favorite was when he fumbled the hold on a potential game winning FG against Seattle. Romo is probably the only player in league history to choke a playoff game away at QB and on special teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted December 31, 2012 Failmonkey FTW. Great day of football. No Bears or Cowboys in the post season! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted December 31, 2012 There's still enough time left for a fourth pick, Tony. Don't give up. Lolol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serpent 51 Posted December 31, 2012 There's still enough time left for a fourth pick, Tony. Don't give up. Lolol. Need to throw the pick 6, he hasn't done that yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted December 31, 2012 My favorite was when he fumbled the hold on a potential game winning FG against Seattle. Romo is probably the only player in league history to choke a playoff game away at QB and on special teams. I thought Parcells was going to punch him in the face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,735 Posted December 31, 2012 awesome thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted December 31, 2012 Dallas needs two things 1. a new gm (yes i know jerry is this, but he needs to step away) 2. re-assessment at all positions. I believe they over value too many. Like Romo. I do not know if Boys would be in the running for Alex Smith or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted December 31, 2012 They need new WRs too. Both of their top guys nursing their vaginas with the season on the line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted December 31, 2012 Dallas needs two things 1. a new gm (yes i know jerry is this, but he needs to step away) 2. re-assessment at all positions. I believe they over value too many. Like Romo. I do not know if Boys would be in the running for Alex Smith or not. Agreed but I don't think Alex smith is anything special either. He was successfully replaced by a young whipper snapper that had zero NFL experience. The cowboys need a complete makeover at just about every position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry David 20 Posted December 31, 2012 The only difference between the two is Eli has had a better team around him and doesn't play for a team that is constantly televised. Care to re-evaluate that analysis? No one should ever mention Romo and Eli Manning in the same breath. How many more times does Nomo need to choke in the big game before you realize all of his padded stats are MEANINGLESS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,585 Posted December 31, 2012 Tony Favro does it again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTD 56 Posted December 31, 2012 Romo leads the Cowboys to the division title tonight. All the talk about how he sucks and yet his team will win the division. Paging Mr. Buttmonkey.... Mr. Buttmonkey? Where are you Mr. Buttmonkey? Nice prediction by the way. My prediction is that you don't show your face in this hilarious thread that torpedoed the Cowboys season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted December 31, 2012 Love the Romocoaster, best ride in the NFL theme park. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Kennison 12 Posted December 31, 2012 Paging Mr. Buttmonkey.... Mr. Buttmonkey? Where are you Mr. Buttmonkey? Nice prediction by the way. My prediction is that you don't show your face in this hilarious thread that torpedoed the Cowboys season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttmonkey 8 Posted December 31, 2012 Paging Mr. Buttmonkey.... Mr. Buttmonkey? Where are you Mr. Buttmonkey? Nice prediction by the way. My prediction is that you don't show your face in this hilarious thread that torpedoed the Cowboys season. Here to take my lumps - damn you Romo for letting me down. Oh well - next year (right?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted December 31, 2012 He's the perfect qb for Jerry jones. Just good enough to give you lie balls, but a choke master that weaves the cowboys narrative perfectly. Many more years of good health Romo!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ian Potter 9 Posted December 31, 2012 Care to re-evaluate that analysis? No one should ever mention Romo and Eli Manning in the same breath. How many more times does Nomo need to choke in the big game before you realize all of his padded stats are MEANINGLESS. Must be a Giants fan. I compared the two because their stats are fairly similar; minus the 2 Super Bowls; Romo's are better and his stats prove it. I didn't say he was better than Eli. Eli has played pretty well when it matters. I just used the two as a comparison; because most view them as being in totally different leagues. I don't find Eli to be very elite. He is a very good QB that has been put in a much better situation which was the basis for my argument. Eli didn't win them their first Super Bowl; their Def did and without that insane catch he'd only have one Superbowl under his belt. Some of the best Qb's of all time have won Super Bowls while some shatty QB's have. Had the Giants not won two Super Bowls no one would even think of mentioning Eli has being an ELITE player; which he isn't. With that being said; Romo played like garbage last night. Other points to consider: just about every WR was went out of the game with an injury last night for Dallas, D Ware couldn't contain the edge at all. The skins gashed them on the ground last night and RG3 did vey little though the air. It was an all around choke job last night by just about everyone on the Cowboys team. QB's bare the burden of winning or losing in the NFL. Romo is a top 10 QB and despite his bad games the Cowboys aren't going to find anything better. They let go of Romo and there will be 15+ teams looking to sign him immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTD 56 Posted December 31, 2012 Here to take my lumps - damn you Romo for letting me down. Oh well - next year (right?) I give ya props for dropping in & taking your shots like a man. There's a handful of "prediction experts" on this bored that would've either, a) never shown their face again, or b)tried to justify the prediction & called everyone stupid. Kudos to you Sir! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,585 Posted December 31, 2012 has there been a better regular season QB that has done less than him in the playoffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serpent 51 Posted December 31, 2012 has there been a better regular season QB that has done less than him in the playoffs? Well a few, but keep in mind Romo rarely even actually gets into the playoffs. He chokes just as hard in the regular season big games. Right now Matt Ryan seems to have the playoff choke label on lockdown, while Romo gets the big game choke on lockdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted December 31, 2012 I give ya props for dropping in & taking your shots like a man. There's a handful of "prediction experts" on this bored that would've either, a) never shown their face again, or b)tried to justify the prediction & called everyone stupid. Kudos to you Sir! Soon as Romo learns how to read those zone blocks, he's gonna run for 2000 yards!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cribdog 0 Posted January 1, 2013 has there been a better regular season QB that has done less than him in the playoffs? Yes. Dan Marino. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry David 20 Posted January 1, 2013 I compared the two because their stats are fairly similar; minus the 2 Super Bowls; That's like saying "minus the face, Mila Kunis and Rosie O'Donnell are fairly similar". If you just look at stats and take them out of context then it's simple to say that Romo's TD to INT is better than Eli's, therefore his stats are better. Where's the stat for interception to TD ratio in a win or go home game? How about the number of games that Eli was able to play in because he was good enough to win the previous game? Where's the stat for that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted January 1, 2013 cross-posted from another thread: romo reportedly suffered broken ribs early in the game. if true, it changes the evaluation of his performance. source. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted January 1, 2013 Must be a Giants fan. I compared the two because their stats are fairly similar; minus the 2 Super Bowls; Romo's are better and his stats prove it. I didn't say he was better than Eli. Eli has played pretty well when it matters. I just used the two as a comparison; because most view them as being in totally different leagues. I don't find Eli to be very elite. He is a very good QB that has been put in a much better situation which was the basis for my argument. Eli didn't win them their first Super Bowl; their Def did and without that insane catch he'd only have one Superbowl under his belt. Some of the best Qb's of all time have won Super Bowls while some shatty QB's have. Had the Giants not won two Super Bowls no one would even think of mentioning Eli has being an ELITE player; which he isn't. With that being said; Romo played like garbage last night. Other points to consider: just about every WR was went out of the game with an injury last night for Dallas, D Ware couldn't contain the edge at all. The skins gashed them on the ground last night and RG3 did vey little though the air. It was an all around choke job last night by just about everyone on the Cowboys team. QB's bare the burden of winning or losing in the NFL. Romo is a top 10 QB and despite his bad games the Cowboys aren't going to find anything better. They let go of Romo and there will be 15+ teams looking to sign him immediately. So if we just throw away Super Bowls from say....Brady, Aikman Elway, and just about everyone else, we will find their career was just average. Is that what you are getting at here? Are you going to also claim that the pats first Super Bowl was a fluke because of the incredibly stupid tuck rule? What about Norwoods missed FG..... If only..... The Bills would have been champs. So, in summary, if we just take away certain plays or change history then certain players aren't that good and the teams tha lost actually won. I got it now. Room has proven he's capable of racking up stats with jump balls to Dez Bryant and that's awesome for fantasy football. But let's not try to make it so he's on the same plane as Eli. Can we just not do that? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,585 Posted January 1, 2013 Yes. Dan Marino. Dan Marino at least went to a super bowl and an afc championship. Went to the playoffs TEN times, playing in 18 playoff games. Romo has been to the playoffs thrice, playing in 4 playoff games per pro football reference; Playoff Record as Starting QB: 1983 (0-1), 1984 (2-1), 1985 (1-1), 1990 (1-1), 1992 (1-1), 1994 (1-1), 1995 (0-1), 1997 (0-1), 1998 (1-1), 1999 (1-1) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,585 Posted January 1, 2013 cross-posted from another thread: romo reportedly suffered broken ribs early in the game. if true, it changes the evaluation of his performance. If he was hurt so badly it affected his performance, he should have come out of the game and not been so selfish to hurt his team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted January 1, 2013 cross-posted from another thread: romo reportedly suffered broken ribs early in the game. if true, it changes the evaluation of his performance. source. Before or after his two early INTs? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted January 1, 2013 Romo was bad, really bad. Yet as bad as he was he still put the boys in a position to win. No excuse though for the picks - just terrible. As a whole the boys were just out matched. Too many guys playing who weren't even on NFL rosters at the start of the season, and it really showed on defense. You give up 200 plus yards rushing and 3 tds to one guy, going to be hard to win in any scenario..... Romo has to be better, but he's far from the only problems this team has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted January 1, 2013 If he was hurt so badly it affected his performance, he should have come out of the game and not been so selfish to hurt his team. that's a different question, but a good one. you have to wonder what garrett was thinking, especially with orton on the bench. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted January 1, 2013 Romo was bad, really bad. Yet as bad as he was he still put the boys in a position to win. No excuse though for the picks - just terrible. As a whole the boys were just out matched. Too many guys playing who weren't even on NFL rosters at the start of the season, and it really showed on defense. You give up 200 plus yards rushing and 3 tds to one guy, going to be hard to win in any scenario..... Romo has to be better, but he's far from the only problems this team has. Yeah, keep telling yourself Romo isn't the problem. I hope you guys make him QB for life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted January 1, 2013 I'd take Eli and Ben off this list. Cam belongs in there. I'd argue Stafford despite the poor year should be in as well. Romo, despite his failures, is a top 10 qb, mainly because the Cowboys are always playing from behind. As Cris Collinsworth said tonight, when Romo's career is done, he's either going to be a Super Bowl winner or a "Yeah, but...". (Can't this be said of ANY QB?) His inability to win the big games - most notably the "win and you're in" ones - is going to follow him around until he ever does win a Super Bowl. Sort of like the way it was with Elway. I can't take Eli off of that list and put Stafford in there. Stafford, or as I've heard him called, "Stat Paddington", has never come up big in any spot. He only really puts up big numbers because they're throwing 50 times a game. Eli played his best when the spotlight was on, so I'll leave him on. I could live with putting Cam in over Ben. Cam? Seriously? That guy sucks. The Panthers will be drafting a QB in the top five picks in the next two to three years. He is Vince Young 2.0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phan a tic 6 Posted January 1, 2013 I noticed that Romo does put up big numbers but the Cowboys got so far behind in games and Romo played against soft, almost 'prevent defenses' for most of the game's 2nd halves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites