oh crap it's on now. 2 cops assassinated

[Giants Fan 85]

Am I gonna be the only one that says killing cops randomly is totally reasonable and fair?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nope. Someone else is gonna hafta take that point. Even I wont go there.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Ok Snuff I agree it was hack, now tell me oh mr down the middle, was it hack when obama said it when referencing trayvon ?

 

 

a yes or no answer will suffice

 

No.

But I don't just give yes or no answers....because Obama saying it was not a political thing. It was stupid to make such a statement...no doubt about that.

But not as dumb as you bringing it up anytime some black kid gets in trouble or killed or whatever. HTH.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Playing devil's advocate here. If the rhetoric from the left, or the false narrative, or just plain dumb talking points, or whatever is to blame for this. Was Sarah Palin to blame for the Gabby Gifford shooting? After all, Gifford had crosshairs on her congressional seat. Some of Palins "rhetoric" for that election year was "don't retreat--RELOAD".

 

Same as i said then...no, neither the overall "left" or Palin are responsible.

Now...anyone actually inciting violence or calling for it surely has some culpability.

[KSB2424 3,083]

Playing devil's advocate here. If the rhetoric from the left, or the false narrative, or just plain dumb talking points, or whatever is to blame for this. Was Sarah Palin to blame for the Gabby Gifford shooting? After all, Gifford had crosshairs on her congressional seat. Some of Palins "rhetoric" for that election year was "don't retreat--RELOAD".

 

For me personally I'll just boil it down to this. Protesting something worthy is great. Peaceful assembly is awesome. Political back and forth is actually good from a checks and balances point of veiw.

 

Where I draw the line is when you break the law while doing it and incite violence. Is when you know what you are spewing can and probably will turn violent. What you are doing possilbly has public safety implications. Condoning all that stuff, even cheering for it is wrong and when something bad does happen, don't act all innocent and shocked that it did.

 

Going back to the the Palin Tea Party analogy. Let me first say I don't like Sarah Palin, she's to far right for me on several topics and I just don't think she's a good leader. The only thing that I ever did like about her was how much she riled up the liberal democrats. That part did bring me joy on occaision. She was liberal cat nip and it made me laugh a bit.

 

What I did like was the Ron Paul led Tea Party movement years ago (before the Sarah Palin types jumped on the bandwagon). I respected how they protested. They felt strongly about something yet did it the right way. The Paul Tea Party would plan an event, at a public place, maybe in front of city hall or in some field or concert venue and have speakers. They'd have signs and rallies to get their "cause" out to the masses. Some would put signs up in their front yard or hang banners in town. They may have a "march" but it was peaceful. People disagreed with it, called them tea baggers, but it was all about the isssues.

 

I contrast that with folks who protest by smashing in windows and overturning cars like at that Environmetal summit in Europe. That's stupid. And contrast it more to the "Hands up don't Shoot" movement. Where one of the main ways they are protesting is actually standing accross major roads and highways to block traffic. They've done it several times in my city. Where I see on CNN hundreds of people, not just a couple wackos, but hundreds of people chanting "NYPD is KKK!" right in the face of cops. After I saw that on live television I knew then and there something was going to happen. Where people think its actually good to have a large group of protesters infiltrate a mall during busy season shouting crap that turns away potential shoppers and can result in people getting irritated / more violence. Not to mention that a "cause" like the false narrative of 'anti cops' one that will attract every criminal, bad seed in the country. It's playing with gasoline near a bonfire. Don't act suprised when shit burns down.

 

It's the MLK style versus the Malcolm X style. I respect one, and don't the other.

[RLLD 3,455]

Is implied violence itself, violence?

[crackattack 513]

 

For me personally I'll just boil it down to this. Protesting something worthy is great. Peaceful assembly is awesome. Political back and forth is actually good from a checks and balances point of veiw.

 

Where I draw the line is when you break the law while doing it and incite violence. Is when you know what you are spewing can and probably will turn violent. What you are doing possilbly has public safety implications. Condoning all that stuff, even cheering for it is wrong and when something bad does happen, don't act all innocent and shocked that it did.

 

Going back to the the Palin Tea Party analogy. Let me first say I don't like Sarah Palin, she's to far right for me on several topics and I just don't think she's a good leader. The only thing that I ever did like about her was how much she riled up the liberal democrats. That part did bring me joy on occaision. She was liberal cat nip and it made me laugh a bit.

 

What I did like was the Ron Paul led Tea Party movement years ago (before the Sarah Palin types jumped on the bandwagon). I respected how they protested. They felt strongly about something yet did it the right way. The Paul Tea Party would plan an event, at a public place, maybe in front of city hall or in some field or concert venue and have speakers. They'd have signs and rallies to get their "cause" out to the masses. Some would put signs up in their front yard or hang banners in town. They may have a "march" but it was peaceful. People disagreed with it, called them tea baggers, but it was all about the isssues.

 

I contrast that with folks who protest by smashing in windows and overturning cars like at that Environmetal summit in Europe. That's stupid. And contrast it more to the "Hands up don't Shoot" movement. Where one of the main ways they are protesting is actually standing accross major roads and highways to block traffic. They've done it several times in my city. Where I see on CNN hundreds of people, not just a couple wackos, but hundreds of people chanting "NYPD is KKK!" right in the face of cops. After I saw that on live television I knew then and there something was going to happen. Where people think its actually good to have a large group of protesters infiltrate a mall during busy season shouting crap that turns away potential shoppers and can result in people getting irritated / more violence. Not to mention that a "cause" like the false narrative of 'anti cops' one that will attract every criminal, bad seed in the country. It's playing with gasoline near a bonfire. Don't act suprised when shit burns down.

 

It's the MLK style versus the Malcolm X style. I respect one, and don't the other.

I agree with you. The only problem I have is the "false narrative" stuff. Imo it's up to the individuals protesting to understand why they're protesting. It's up to them to figure out what's right or wrong. Individuals looting and causing violence are disgraceful to the process and should be arrested and held accountable. These are all adults and can think and act on their own. Individuals leading protests who are asking for violence should be arrested and held accountable.

 

To me it all boils down to each individual protester. They are responsible for their behavior. They are responsible for their actions. While that might be a fantasy land, that's how I feel. People can choose to be lawful and make right decisions, but if they don't, well....that's when the police step in.

[RLLD 3,455]

well....that's when the police step in.

 

Not if they are smart, enforcing the law when it comes to these protesters is just militant police violence; unless of course the police excercise restraint, at which point they are then allowing criminals to run wild.....must be nice to be able to whine and b!tch about them no matter what they do

[MDC 5,895]

....must be nice to be able to whine and b!tch about them no matter what they do

Sounds like Repubtards with Obummer.

[RLLD 3,455]

Sounds like Repubtards with Obummer.

 

Without a doubt this is true, as it was for the pvssy democraps and Bush, and if there is another repubtard, the democrybabies will harass that one for 4 or more years.

 

It rolls both ways, our political system has become perverse and immature, subservient to the extreme ideologies of their repsective groups.

[NorthernVike 2,080]

 

Without a doubt this is true, as it was for the pvssy democraps and Bush, and if there is another repubtard, the democrybabies will harass that one for 4 or more years.

 

It rolls both ways, our political system has become perverse and immature, subservient to the extreme ideologies of their repsective groups.

 

 

Much like this place.

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

For me personally I'll just boil it down to this. Protesting something worthy is great. Peaceful assembly is awesome. Political back and forth is actually good from a checks and balances point of veiw.

 

Where I draw the line is when you break the law while doing it and incite violence. Is when you know what you are spewing can and probably will turn violent. What you are doing possilbly has public safety implications. Condoning all that stuff, even cheering for it is wrong and when something bad does happen, don't act all innocent and shocked that it did.

 

Going back to the the Palin Tea Party analogy. Let me first say I don't like Sarah Palin, she's to far right for me on several topics and I just don't think she's a good leader. The only thing that I ever did like about her was how much she riled up the liberal democrats. That part did bring me joy on occaision. She was liberal cat nip and it made me laugh a bit.

 

What I did like was the Ron Paul led Tea Party movement years ago (before the Sarah Palin types jumped on the bandwagon). I respected how they protested. They felt strongly about something yet did it the right way. The Paul Tea Party would plan an event, at a public place, maybe in front of city hall or in some field or concert venue and have speakers. They'd have signs and rallies to get their "cause" out to the masses. Some would put signs up in their front yard or hang banners in town. They may have a "march" but it was peaceful. People disagreed with it, called them tea baggers, but it was all about the isssues.

 

I contrast that with folks who protest by smashing in windows and overturning cars like at that Environmetal summit in Europe. That's stupid. And contrast it more to the "Hands up don't Shoot" movement. Where one of the main ways they are protesting is actually standing accross major roads and highways to block traffic. They've done it several times in my city. Where I see on CNN hundreds of people, not just a couple wackos, but hundreds of people chanting "NYPD is KKK!" right in the face of cops. After I saw that on live television I knew then and there something was going to happen. Where people think its actually good to have a large group of protesters infiltrate a mall during busy season shouting crap that turns away potential shoppers and can result in people getting irritated / more violence. Not to mention that a "cause" like the false narrative of 'anti cops' one that will attract every criminal, bad seed in the country. It's playing with gasoline near a bonfire. Don't act suprised when shit burns down.

 

It's the MLK style versus the Malcolm X style. I respect one, and don't the other.

 

Again...well said.

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

 

Much like this place.

 

Nah...there is no "has become" with this place. It has always been perverse and immature.

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

If I was one of these young protesters I would be protesting about the outrageous cost of a college education for them. It's never been this expensive and the only reason it is is so banks and schools can make more money. But young people get led astray in to thinking Eric Garner is worth more than a turn of the page of a newspaper. I think they feel they are at the heart of some great cause. They're not, the civil rights movement of the 60's was a great success. But then again, black people were really getting screwed over back then. Garner and Brown screwed themselves.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,921]

So if you go and kill bunny today, your earlier post would have no bearing on that because you are a focking nut case?

 

 

[edjr 5,567]

 

A Tarpon Springs police officer was shot and killed overnight, and a man identified as a transient has been charged with first-degree murder, authorities said.

Veteran officer Charles "Charlie K" Kondek was fatally shot sometime after 2 a.m. near 199 Grand Blvd., a few blocks from the city's Sponge Docks. He was a father of six and former New York City policeman.

According to investigators, a second shooting occurred on Athens Street, where the shooter, identified as 23-year-old Marco Antonio Parilla Jr., fled in a white Hyundai Elantra. Parilla crashed into a power pole and snapped it and then crashed into a pickup truck, Pinellas County Sheriff's Office spokesperson Cecila Barreda said.

The Tarpon Springs Police Department released the officer's name on its Facebook page around 11:15 a.m., saying "our hearts and prayers go out to the Kondek Family and our deepest sympathy."

Parilla was arrested and taken to the Pinellas County Jail. After questioning, He was escorted to jail and apologized to the family of Officer Kondek, saying he didn't intend for any of this to happen.

Residents from all over have paid their respect to Kondek by leaving cards and flowers by his patrol car.

"He always took time off to go to the special events with his kids," said Kondek's former coworker Shawn Prince. "He was really a family guy, that was for sure."

"My heart goes out to his family, both personal and professional," said resident Linda Flowers. "What can you say to them? Things have got to change in America. Things just have to change."

Honored by community

A procession took place through downtown Clearwater as Kondek was taken from the hospital.

At a press conference Sunday, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said Parilla has an extensive criminal record including nearly 30 felony arrests, and 15 misdemeanor arrests. Parilla was released from prison in March.

"His reasoning was because he said he felt like a caged rat," said Gualtieri. "He should never have been on the streets to begin with."

Tarpon Springs Chief of Police Robert Kochen remembered Kondek as a person who was committed to his department and the community.

"As chief of police, I hoped I would never face such a day, a day that I would face the public to advice the loss of Tarpon Springs police officer," Kochen said. "We grieve for the community that lost a hero but with that grieving we have to have resolve, we have to move on, we have to heal. That's what we do. When one of our own goes down, it doesn't matter what badge you wear, people come and help."

Tarpon Springs Mayor David Archie also spoke briefly after Kochen, expressing his condolences to Kondek's family and the community.

"This is one of the saddest days to me in my history here in Tarpon Springs," said Mayor Archie. "I just want to let the family know we stand with them. Our prayers and my prayers personally is with the family.

"We will stand strong, we will face this tragedy and I'm just thankful that we have the support of so many men and women that give up themselves every day."

Incident started with a noise complaint call

Gualtieri said Kondek responded to the area around 2 a.m. in response to a noise complaint which came from a resident at the Glen's Eureka apartment complex.

Gualtieri said the resident who called police reported a white Hyundai parked outside of the complex with music blaring. The resident said when he asked the woman sitting inside the car to turn the music down, she "flipped him off."

Before the call, Gualtieri said, Parilla and the woman in the car - Evelyn Desiree Santiago - were at a party in Holiday and came to the complex to confront a resident whom Parilla believed had reported he violated his probation.

Parilla, who used to live in the complex, banged on the doors of two apartments, but was unable to locate the person he was looking for, Gualtieri said.

“When he knocked on our door, he was really pissed off about something,” said neighbor Racheal Delk.

Meanwhile, one of the residents noticed a gun in Parilla's waistband and called police.

Officer Kondek, who was at the scene at the time, saw something within minutes of arriving that made him call for back up.

Sheriff Gualtieri said that's when Parilla began walking to the car and fired a .40 caliber handgun at Kondek, striking him in the upper chest.

Parilla then fled the scene and put the car in reverse, backing up over Kondek, Gualtieri said.

 

 

 

add another one

[NorthernVike 2,080]

 

 

He's more unstable than naomi's ex.

[Vikings4ever 496]

http://news.yahoo.com/ex-officer-not-charged-fatal-milwaukee-shooting-144211939.html

A white Milwaukee police officer who was fired after he fatally shot a mentally ill black man in April won't face criminal charges, the county's top prosecutor said Monday.

Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm said Christopher Manney won't be charged because he shot Dontre Hamilton in self-defense. Manney is at least the third white police officer to avoid charges in the past month after a confrontation that led to a black man's death.

"Based on all the evidence and analysis presented in this report, I come to the conclusion that Officer Manney's use of force in this incident was justified self-defense and that defense cannot be reasonably overcome to establish a basis to charge Officer Manney with a crime," Chisholm said in a statement.

...

But Hamilton's brother Nate spoke bitterly, saying the family had "cried too long."

"We don't have to be the voice of reason," he said. He called on people to stand with the family "so we can get rid of these pigs that kill us. Because that's what they are."

...

Manney shot 31-year-old Hamilton on April 30 after responding to a call for a welfare check on a man sleeping in a downtown park. Manney said Hamilton resisted when he tried to frisk him. The two exchanged punches before Hamilton got hold of Manney's baton and hit him on the neck, the former officer has said. Manney opened fire, hitting Hamilton 14 times.

Several witnesses told police they saw Hamilton holding Manney's baton "in an aggressive posture" before Manney shot him, according to Chisholm's report. Police said they have no video of the event.

Chisholm consulted with experts on the use of force by police officers, who concluded Manney's conduct was justified. Emanuel Kapelsohn of the Peregrine Corporation said all the shots were discharged in 3 or 4 seconds and there was no evidence that Manney continued firing after Hamilton hit the ground.

[The Moz 69]

Moz is just trolling, but he is far too stupid to do it effectively

cop killer lover

[rholio 339]

cop killer lover

I'll take Rap Song Titles for $400, Alex.

[The Moz 69]

I'll take Rap Song Titles for $400, Alex.

Yeah worms has had Ice T's Cop KIlla song on continuous loop since he heard the news

[Voltaire 4,564]

Is implied violence itself, violence?

I'll give you my Playstation controller when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

[HenryHill9323 65]

Moz is just trolling, but he is far too stupid to do it effectively

 

Your epic meltdown says otherwise.

[HenryHill9323 65]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZfbrItDvrU

[drobeski 3,061]

 

animal's

[HenryHill9323 65]

[Baker Boy 1,485]

The American left chooses to believe lies because they cannot face the truth.

[NewbieJr 540]

The American left chooses to believe lies because they cannot face the truth.

while i understand you're a senile old man, wtf does your post have to do with two cops being assassinated by a mentally retarded man? Are you even in the right thread, Pappy?

[RLLD 3,455]

The pigs in a blanket dough boys sure were some tough guys, until the cops smash them, then they are suddenly victims who were jsut exercising their right to free speech and protest and the big meanie cops hurt their little feelings. So tough, heading out to try to invoke a response so you can cry like a little b!tch when something bad happens, like a toddler or something.

[NorthernVike 2,080]

The pigs in a blanket dough boys sure were some tough guys, until the cops smash them, then they are suddenly victims who were jsut exercising their right to free speech and protest and the big meanie cops hurt their little feelings. So tough, heading out to try to invoke a response so you can cry like a little b!tch when something bad happens, like newbie or something.

Truth.

[Voltaire 4,564]

The pigs in a blanket dough boys sure were some tough guys, until the cops smash them, then they are suddenly victims who were jsut exercising their right to free speech and protest and the big meanie cops hurt their little feelings. So tough, heading out to try to invoke a response so you can cry like a little b!tch when something bad happens, like a toddler or something.

Screw MLK's non-violence, the Palestinians showed them a funner way.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

while i understand you're a senile old man, wtf does your post have to do with two cops being assassinated by a mentally retarded man? Are you even in the right thread, Pappy?

Mentally retarded with a driver's license and twitter account. Keep on deflecting.

[Vikings4ever 496]

Now the protestors don't want police to use deadly force even when someone points an actual gun at cops.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-officer-missouri-shot-killed-man-pulled-gun-084531706.html

Violent protests broke out in suburban St. Louis after another black 18-year-old was fatally shot by a white police officer.

St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said the officer was questioning the 18-year-old and another man about a theft late Tuesday at a convenience store in Berkeley when the young man pulled a 9mm handgun on him. The officer stumbled backward but fired three shots, one of which struck the victim, Belmar said.

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The demonstration involving up to 300 people turned violent.

More than 50 police officers, some in riot gear, responded. Video showed some wrestling with protesters. Belmar said officers used pepper spray but not tear gas. Four people were arrested on charges of assaulting officers.

The protest spilled to a neighboring convenience store where a man in a hoodie set a fire inside the store. The fire was quickly put out, but the glass door was shattered.

...

Belmar said the 18-year-old had a considerable criminal record in the less than two years since he turned 17, with three assault charges, armed robbery, armed criminal action and unlawful use of a weapon.

The chief said some protesters questioned why the officer couldn't use pepper spray or a stun gun.

"Frankly, that's unreasonable," Belmar said. "When we had somebody pointing a gun at a police officer, there's not a lot of time."

[edjr 5,567]

dis bad

[NorthernVike 2,080]

He could have shot him in his left pinky toe. He didn't need to kill that poor boy.

[rholio 339]

He could have shot him in his left pinky toe. He didn't need to kill that poor boy.

Didn't see the video, don't know if the kid with the gun was left or right handed.... makes a difference on which toe to shoot.

[NorthernVike 2,080]

Didn't see the video, don't know if the kid with the gun was left or right handed.... makes a difference on which toe to shoot.

True dat homeboy.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Idiot kid...and anyone protesting that is a moron too.

[Mookz 1,287]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZfbrItDvrU

 

Yowzer, it does sound like she's saying "so kill a cop", but "on cell block" doesn't really make sense after that. Is it possible she's saying "'til killa cops on cell block", as in they won't stop until killer cops are in jail?

[rholio 339]

 

Yowzer, it does sound like she's saying "so kill a cop", but "on cell block" doesn't really make sense after that. Is it possible she's saying "'til killa cops on cell block", as in they won't stop until killer cops are in jail?

 

"Til killa cops, are in cell blocks." is what it sounds like.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,921]

Idiot kid...and anyone protesting that is a moron too.

But this is where we are today. Wonder why.