Vikings4ever 496 Posted December 12, 2018 https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/12/11/omg-now-california-wants-to-tax-text-messaging/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted December 12, 2018 Wow. Guess the poor need help with their phone service. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted December 12, 2018 We see you're using an ad blocker. Subscribe and keep your ad blocker on. Or turn off your ad blocker to continue reading. Nope, not turning it off... I hate sites that do this... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted December 12, 2018 Nope, not turning it off... I hate sites that do this... not to mention they wanted 99 cents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 496 Posted December 12, 2018 Nope, not turning it off... I hate sites that do this... http://fortune.com/2018/12/12/california-text-message-tax/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,731 Posted December 13, 2018 The only surprising thing about this is it took them this long to come up with it. At some point they prolly implement a personal CO2 emission tax for exhaling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,979 Posted December 13, 2018 They also want to pass a "right" to shelter for homeless people, guaranteeing them a bed. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/420228-proposed-california-bill-would-guarantee-a-bed-for-every-homeless-person This is what happens when one party has a supermajority in the legislature, whether at the state level or federal level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,286 Posted December 13, 2018 The only surprising thing about this is it took them this long to come up with it. At some point they prolly implement a personal CO2 emission tax for exhaling. No too far off. Toilet flush tax. Car start tax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted December 13, 2018 They also want to pass a "right" to shelter for homeless people, guaranteeing them a bed. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/420228-proposed-california-bill-would-guarantee-a-bed-for-every-homeless-person This is what happens when one party has a supermajority in the legislature, whether at the state level or federal level. I think this is a good thing for the country. People on the right in CA will start moving to other states and thus increasing the chances of more right leaning politicians into the Federal landscape and making sure that the shathole that CA is, doesn't flood into neighboring states. I say, screw building the wall along the Mexican border... build one around CA and put in a super highway from Mexico into California. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,979 Posted December 13, 2018 I think this is a good thing for the country. People on the right in CA will start moving to other states and thus increasing the chances of more right leaning politicians into the Federal landscape and making sure that the shathole that CA is, doesn't flood into neighboring states. I say, screw building the wall along the Mexican border... build one around CA and put in a super highway from Mexico into California. California has been losing more people than it gains for a long time: https://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/article32679753.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted December 13, 2018 California has been losing more people than it gains for a long time: https://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/article32679753.html Good, maybe the yearly exodus will increase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted December 13, 2018 I think this is a good thing for the country. People on the right in CA will start moving to other states and thus increasing the chances of more right leaning politicians into the Federal landscape and making sure that the shathole that CA is, doesn't flood into neighboring states. I say, screw building the wall along the Mexican border... build one around CA and put in a super highway from Mexico into California. Unfortunately the fruit cake Lefties are moving to other states too, bringing their flawed ideology with them. Arizona is a good example, it will be blue within the decade. It is close now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted December 13, 2018 Unfortunately the fruit cake Lefties are moving to other states too, bringing their flawed ideology with them. Arizona is a good example, it will be blue within the decade. It is close now. I heard people in Oregon are pissed about this. Lot of people going there, my brother just moved his family there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,731 Posted December 14, 2018 Unfortunately the fruit cake Lefties are moving to other states too, bringing their flawed ideology with them. Arizona is a good example, it will be blue within the decade. It is close now.Well that sucks. We were looking at AZ as a relocation destination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,146 Posted December 14, 2018 Well that sucks. We were looking at AZ as a relocation destination. See you down in Arizona Bay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,731 Posted December 14, 2018 I heard people in Oregon are pissed about this. Lot of people going there, my brother just moved his family there.Not just Oregon. Idaho, Nevada, Texas... They all complain about people relocating from California and focking up their states. I guess we can add Arizona to the list too. These people fock up the state they live in with their focked up mentality, then, when the policies they voted for turn out to be sh!t, they leave and push for the same focked up policies wherever they end up. It's a retard virus and it's spreading. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,657 Posted December 14, 2018 Unfortunately the fruit cake Lefties are moving to other states too, bringing their flawed ideology with them. Arizona is a good example, it will be blue within the decade. It is close now. Arizona is gone. The combination of college educations by leftist colleges/universities and immigrants from shitholes will be our downfall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted December 14, 2018 See you down in Arizona Bay. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,589 Posted December 14, 2018 Idaho is where the conservatives are heading Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,206 Posted December 14, 2018 Not just Oregon. Idaho, Nevada, Texas... They all complain about people relocating from California and focking up their states. I guess we can add Arizona to the list too. These people fock up the state they live in with their focked up mentality, then, when the policies they voted for turn out to be sh!t, they leave and push for the same focked up policies wherever they end up. It's a retard virus and it's spreading. We're not gone yet. Relocate here and help stem the idiot leftist slide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,731 Posted December 14, 2018 We're not gone yet. Relocate here and help stem the idiot leftist slide. You're currently at the top of the list. We are still a year or two out. The plan is to move by 50. Turned 48 yesterday. We are trying to pay down the house as much as possible so we can walk with enough cash to buy something outright. Otherwise we would've already left this godforsaken hellhole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,091 Posted December 14, 2018 Unfortunately the fruit cake Lefties are moving to other states too, bringing their flawed ideology with them. Arizona is a good example, it will be blue within the decade. It is close now. Colorado is the pinnacle example. Colorado use to be an awesome middle of the road, do what you want just don't mess with me State. Now they are basically California East. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,091 Posted December 14, 2018 If Dems take back the Senate in the next election don't be surprised if you see similar type taxes in Minnesota. The twin city folks love them some taxes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted June 22, 2019 Punishing landlords for keeping units empty – it could be on the LA ballot in 2020. Four city councilmembers are asking city staff to explore ways to fine property owners who keep units vacant. They’re worried that empty apartments are making the housing crisis worse. They would use the revenue to build more affordable housing. http://www.kabc.com/2019/06/12/punishing-landlords-for-keeping-units-empty-it-could-be-on-the-la-ballot-in-2020/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Baker Boy said: Punishing landlords for keeping units empty – it could be on the LA ballot in 2020. Four city councilmembers are asking city staff to explore ways to fine property owners who keep units vacant. They’re worried that empty apartments are making the housing crisis worse. They would use the revenue to build more affordable housing. http://www.kabc.com/2019/06/12/punishing-landlords-for-keeping-units-empty-it-could-be-on-the-la-ballot-in-2020/ I'm sure Seattle will follow this example shortly. The Seattle City Council is so retarded they keep raising property taxes to "solve the affordable housing crisis" and then are shocked and outraged when landlords pass the increased tax burden onto renters in the form of higher rents. Anyone with half a brain would realize that is exactly what will happen. I guess virtue signaling prevents one from taking a moment to consider the obvious consequences of your feel good actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted June 22, 2019 This is what happens when you put bleeding heart libs/socialists in charge. Run out of money? Just heap more taxes on those working; it's not like they'll move away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted June 22, 2019 On 12/13/2018 at 2:26 PM, TBayXXXVII said: I think this is a good thing for the country. People on the right in CA will start moving to other states and thus increasing the chances of more right leaning politicians into the Federal landscape and making sure that the shathole that CA is, doesn't flood into neighboring states. I say, screw building the wall along the Mexican border... build one around CA and put in a super highway from Mexico into California. Why should America surrender a ton of prime real estate like that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 343 Posted June 22, 2019 On 12/13/2018 at 5:29 PM, 5-Points said: Not just Oregon. Idaho, Nevada, Texas... They all complain about people relocating from California and focking up their states. I guess we can add Arizona to the list too. These people fock up the state they live in with their focked up mentality, then, when the policies they voted for turn out to be sh!t, they leave and push for the same focked up policies wherever they end up. It's a retard virus and it's spreading. For a while I was researching Idaho (mostly around Boise) and watching this realtor lady's YouTube videos specifically made for potential relocators (she relocated there herself). She talked a fair amount about the attitudes toward Californians. What I gather is that well off liberal-leaners who want to have a better home than their CA money can buy, and an overall more affordable COL, have moved there. What attracts them to the state is a product of governance against their own idealogy. More conservative or libertarian Californians are attracted too, but people will be (understandably) wary of us by default. I have to say, although lots of Idaho is beautiful for most of the year, it still would have been hard to part with CA on that note. It's very conflicting for me personally. Some of my family consistently entertains it, and I do wonder if a mentality difference would wind up outweighing the pros of living near places like Tahoe, Point Reyes National Seashore (Marin Co.), Napa/Sonoma, the motherlode (gold rush foothills), redwoods, etc. BUT then if we're slowly ruining these other states, maybe it would be buying an ultimately negligible amount of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said: This is what happens when you put bleeding heart libs/socialists in charge. Run out of money? Just heap more taxes on those working; it's not like they'll move away. Governments largely financed themselves via tariffs in the 18th century. Conventional thinking emerged that tariffs were bad because they encouraged nations to blame other nations for their problems which helped lead to wars. That is when governments turned to taxing its own citizens for money as alternative in the early 20th century. The problem with taxes, however, is that they encourage nations to blame subsections of their own population for their problems in order to justify taxing them. This coarsens discourse within a nation and begins to divide the public against itself and helps lead to civil war. We can see this effect in America. The US passed the 16th amendment in 1909 to make income tax legal. Shortly thereafter, America won TWO world wars which boosted morale and unified the nation. But after that, morale and unification has been slowly eroding away. Leaders specifically began blaming anyone with disposable income for problems facing the nation and began to tax them to get money. Today, the nation is basically split in half. It took around 50 years to completely undo the good will of winning two world wars but we finally got there. Why all of this effort to make white people feel guilty? Because white people have most of the money. I would bet you anything that if most white people had little money, there would be ZERO effort to teach kids in schools about how colonialism is bad or the plight of the native americans or about segregation. All of it traces right back to getting paid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted June 22, 2019 On 12/13/2018 at 4:44 PM, supermike80 said: No too far off. Toilet flush tax. Car start tax. Advanced toilet metering infrastructure. If the people don't follow a new law that states, "If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown flush it down.", then they will have a additional yellow flush tax on top of the normal flush tax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,731 Posted June 23, 2019 5 hours ago, naomi said: For a while I was researching Idaho (mostly around Boise) and watching this realtor lady's YouTube videos specifically made for potential relocators (she relocated there herself). She talked a fair amount about the attitudes toward Californians. What I gather is that well off liberal-leaners who want to have a better home than their CA money can buy, and an overall more affordable COL, have moved there. What attracts them to the state is a product of governance against their own idealogy. More conservative or libertarian Californians are attracted too, but people will be (understandably) wary of us by default. I have to say, although lots of Idaho is beautiful for most of the year, it still would have been hard to part with CA on that note. It's very conflicting for me personally. Some of my family consistently entertains it, and I do wonder if a mentality difference would wind up outweighing the pros of living near places like Tahoe, Point Reyes National Seashore (Marin Co.), Napa/Sonoma, the motherlode (gold rush foothills), redwoods, etc. BUT then if we're slowly ruining these other states, maybe it would be buying an ultimately negligible amount of time. You're not going to find the variety of geographical beauty that is California anywhere. Your best bet is to decide which part of California (coast, foothills, mountains, desert...) fits you the best and choose a location that best represents that aspect of California. That is no easy task, I know. I'm a lifelong Bay Area Californian. The thought of giving up most of what I love about this state sucks. The thought of staying here while the dems fock it up wosre sucks even more. I can always come back to visit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 343 Posted June 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, 5-Points said: You're not going to find the variety of geographical beauty that is California anywhere. Your best bet is to decide which part of California (coast, foothills, mountains, desert...) fits you the best and choose a location that best represents that aspect of California. That is no easy task, I know. I'm a lifelong Bay Area Californian. The thought of giving up most of what I love about this state sucks. The thought of staying here while the dems fock it up wosre sucks even more. I can always come back to visit. Hmm, this is a really poignant post for me. Where are you thinking about going? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,731 Posted June 23, 2019 44 minutes ago, naomi said: Hmm, this is a really poignant post for me. Where are you thinking about going? We've looked all over. If we had our druthers we'd be on a beach somewhere. Florida and the Carolinas were considered but both our families are here in California and I'm not big on flying. My wife won't do snow, so Northern Idaho and Montana are out of the question. We've pretty much settled on Northern Arizona at this point. We live in Brentwood (norcal) so we are used to summer temps in the triple digits. We'd be close enough to drive to visit family and friends (and Vegas). We can get more bang for our buck home wise as well. Plus AZ is 2A friendly, which is important to me. Oddly enough, the desert aspect of California is my least favorite. All things considered, looks like that's where I'll end up though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,562 Posted June 23, 2019 On 12/13/2018 at 4:12 AM, posty said: Nope, not turning it off... I hate sites that do this... I keep mine turned off for Mike. I figure my 1/10 penny per page or whatever must help in some way. I’m less inclined elsewhere, especially at MSM sites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 313 Posted June 23, 2019 Some people need to be shot. A very well respected instructor of mine said that exact phrase. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,731 Posted June 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, BLS said: Some people need to be shot. A very well respected instructor of mine said that exact phrase. Like I've told my wife, If I ever get diagnosed with a terminal disease...... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted June 23, 2019 A miles driven tax is certainly headed oir way. The gas tax is antiquated and will be obsolete soon enough. They will raise it to the max to get the gasolone stragglers (in the name of the environment of course) then move on to the electric people. First a law to force electric car companies to sell data about your driving habits. Then the states will use that to bill you by the mile driven in that state. Will happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted June 23, 2019 Taxing text messages: dumb. Fining people into oblivion for texting while driving? Do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted June 23, 2019 Taxman George Harrison Let me tell you how it will be There's one for you, nineteen for me 'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman Should five per cent appear too small Be thankful I don't take it all 'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman If you drive a car, I'll tax the street, If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat. If you get too cold I'll tax the heat, If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet. Don't ask me what I want it for If you don't want to pay some more 'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman Now my advice for those who die Declare the pennies on your eyes 'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman And you're working for no one but me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted June 24, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 1:43 PM, riversco said: Why should America surrender a ton of prime real estate like that? It's California! It's turning into a garbage dump. There's no more "prime real estate" there any more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites