OK, Warren is done

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

She says she can pay for Medicare for all by driving up the population, by amnesty for illegals and increased immigration, increasing the federal tax revenue.  She's an idiot if that's the best she could come up with. Democrats better get behind Biden or game over, impeachment or not.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Interesting new guilt trip.  If you are against open borders, that means you want to starve people and take away their health care.

[jerryskids 5,206]

Oof, really?  I may not math like her, but wouldn't additional people also add to the cost of said Medicare?  Or do we only bring in people who never get sick? 

[IGotWorms 3,315]

Gimmicks to keep the math down. Which is dumb because the price tag is going to be focking high no matter what. We currently spend $3.5 trillion per year on health care so even if you cut down overall expenditures its still a fock lot of money 

[MTSkiBum 1,594]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Oof, really?  I may not math like her, but wouldn't additional people also add to the cost of said Medicare?  Or do we only bring in people who never get sick? 

 

If you take the math to the extremes, you can use this.

 

If the majority population was 18-25 year olds then the health care per capita would be lower than if the majority of the population was 60-70. So you bring in 10 million 18-25 year olds and  boom, health care per capita goes down in theory.

 

 

[shorepatrol 1,737]

6 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

 

 

 So you bring in 10 million 18-25 year olds and  boom, health care per capita goes down in theory.

 

 

What's the cost of all the new prisons, social programs and leo that will need to be built, put into law and hired to deal with these "wonderful" , "hard working" , "contributing" "america culture loving" folks? 

[Gladiators 1,904]

I’d really appreciate it if everyone would quit asking questions. Please just nod your head and say, “Sounds Great!” Mkay? Thanks

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

10 minutes ago, shorepatrol said:

What's the cost of all the new prisons, social programs and leo that will need to be built, put into law and hired to deal with these "wonderful" , "hard working" , "contributing" "america culture loving" folks? 

Haven't you heard? The criminal justice system is racist, therefore it is immoral to imprison non-whites. Prison problem solved.  

[shorepatrol 1,737]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Haven't you heard? The criminal justice system is racist, therefore it is immoral to imprison non-whites. Prison problem solved.  

And they want to take my guns. Baaaaaaaaaahahahahahahah. Eat sh!t

[Reality 2,710]

Seriously though, what kind of dude would vote for this woman? Could you imagine? Like, actually knowing a dude who would do that...

Fock..

[Hardcore troubadour 12,657]

12 minutes ago, Reality said:

Seriously though, what kind of dude would vote for this woman? Could you imagine? Like, actually knowing a dude who would do that...

Fock..

How can any straight law abiding tax paying white male citizen vote for any democrat at all at this point? They have made it quite clear they don't like you, blame you for everything and will stick it to you given the opportunity. I get not voting for Trump, but for the current Democratic Party? You truly are a cuck if you do.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,523]

15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How can any straight law abiding tax paying white male citizen vote for any democrat at all at this point? They have made it quite clear they don't like you, blame you for everything and will stick it to you given the opportunity. I get not voting for Trump, but for the current Democratic Party? You truly are a cuck if you do.  

Have you seen THESE GUYS?  Well, you can't really call them "men", I suppose.  Useful idiots?  Sheep?  Beta Cucks?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,590]

Even if Trump did EVERYTHING the dems claim, hes still way better for this country than this fake injun

 

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

1 hour ago, Gladiators said:

I’d really appreciate it if everyone would quit asking questions. Please just nod your head and say, “Sounds Great!” Mkay? Thanks

lol

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Seriously though, what kind of dude would vote for this woman? Could you imagine? Like, actually knowing a dude who would do that...

Fock..

*any woman 

[Cdub100 3,383]

She gave a very detailed plan:

1. Remove loopholes
2. Tax the rich

I mean you can't argue against that Look at how detailed it is. Why hasn't anyone else thought of this?

[lickin_starfish 1,482]

This biitch lied about her ethnicity to game the system, lied about getting fired for being pregnant to get the women's vote, and wants to obliterate our economy. What kind of diickless fhaggot could vote for her?

[shorepatrol 1,737]

16 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

This biitch lied about her ethnicity to game the system, lied about getting fired for being pregnant to get the women's vote, and wants to obliterate our economy. What kind of diickless fhaggot could vote for her?

An unfockingreal amount of guilt filled , virtue signaling dickless is out there that can't wait to vote for that. 

[Brad GLuckman 518]

I think a lot of people that will support Warren over Trump will agree that shes a garbage human being that has advanced her career due to lies about ethnicity and persecution. But they also think the system is rigged so income disparity between the wealthy and middle class/poor continues to grow. When Trump gives a tax cut that helps the rich more than anyone else, her main talking point only grows stronger. So they put policy of the candidate ahead of the candidate's likeability, similar to many Trump voters.

[shorepatrol 1,737]

59 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said:

I think a lot of people that will support Warren over Trump will agree that shes a garbage human being that has advanced her career due to lies about ethnicity and persecution. But they also think the system is rigged so income disparity between the wealthy and middle class/poor continues to grow. When Trump gives a tax cut that helps the rich more than anyone else, her main talking point only grows stronger. So they put policy of the candidate ahead of the candidate's likeability, similar to many Trump voters.

I'm as middle class as middle class gets. Around 120k household income and I got a nice tax break. 

[Big Guy 1,400]

6 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Oof, really?  I may not math like her, but wouldn't additional people also add to the cost of said Medicare?  Or do we only bring in people who never get sick? 

that would be logic, the left doesn't use it so much

[Voltaire 4,562]

6 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Oof, really?  I may not math like her, but wouldn't additional people also add to the cost of said Medicare?  Or do we only bring in people who never get sick? 

Only bringing people who never get sick may the plan. In reality, anybody in the world with AIDS or cancer or herpes or complicated health problems who hears of Warren's plans would be stupid to not flood in through unguarded borders.

[Voltaire 4,562]

3 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Have you seen THESE GUYS?  Well, you can't really call them "men", I suppose.  Useful idiots?  Sheep?  Beta Cucks?

I think that answers that question. 

Do they qualify as men? I suspect the majority haven't had their testicles removed.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

2 hours ago, Brad GLuckman said:

I think a lot of people that will support Warren over Trump will agree that shes a garbage human being that has advanced her career due to lies about ethnicity and persecution. But they also think the system is rigged so income disparity between the wealthy and middle class/poor continues to grow. When Trump gives a tax cut that helps the rich more than anyone else, her main talking point only grows stronger. So they put policy of the candidate ahead of the candidate's likeability, similar to many Trump voters.

Yeah, if it's Warren vs. Trump, you're voting for a garbage human being either way really. Just like last time. 

[shorepatrol 1,737]

22 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Yeah, if it's Warren vs. Trump, you're voting for a garbage human being either way really. Just like last time. 

Policy is all that matters. Focking period. MAGA 

[tanatastic 2,061]

Good lord. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

10 hours ago, Reality said:

Seriously though, what kind of dude would vote for this woman? Could you imagine? Like, actually knowing a dude who would do that...

Fock..

Agreed.

10 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How can any straight law abiding tax paying white male citizen vote for any democrat at all at this point? They have made it quite clear they don't like you, blame you for everything and will stick it to you given the opportunity. I get not voting for Trump, but for the current Democratic Party? You truly are a cuck if you do.  

This X a million. Perfectly said.

If the liberal men would grow a focking set, and quit saying sh!t to get laid (or quit letting their wives decide what to think) they'd turn away from that focked up cult called the 2019 Democratic Party.

[avoiding injuries 1,220]

8 hours ago, Brad GLuckman said:

I think a lot of people that will support Warren over Trump will agree that shes a garbage human being that has advanced her career due to lies about ethnicity and persecution. But they also think the system is rigged so income disparity between the wealthy and middle class/poor continues to grow. When Trump gives a tax cut that helps the rich more than anyone else, her main talking point only grows stronger. So they put policy of the candidate ahead of the candidate's likeability, similar to many Trump voters.

I’m curious if you are “rich”, or have spoken directly with anyone who is, and got their direct feedback on the tax changes Trump made. 
I think you’re just repeating a talking point when it comes to personal income taxes. 

[lickin_starfish 1,482]

6 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Yeah, if it's Warren vs. Trump, you're voting for a garbage human being either way really. Just like last time. 

Then I'd rather vote for the garbage that puts Americans first over illegals, and doesn't want to obliterate the economy.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

14 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

Then I'd rather vote for the garbage that puts Americans first over illegals, and doesn't want to obliterate the economy.

I don't disagree.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

4 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I don't disagree.

Define garbage human. I would think a garbage human is trash, good for nothing. Someone that's putting America first and lowering unemployment, raising wages, etc has value.

So, define garbage human please.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Democrats better get behind Biden or game over, impeachment or not.  

They are behind him.....................as he forgets where the cameras and audience are. Talking to a screen. 

[Voltaire 4,562]

It looks like she has all the Dem momentum to me. I'll believe Warren is done when the ballots come in showing her on the losing end in the primary or general election.

[jerryskids 5,206]

10 hours ago, Brad GLuckman said:

I think a lot of people that will support Warren over Trump will agree that shes a garbage human being that has advanced her career due to lies about ethnicity and persecution. But they also think the system is rigged so income disparity between the wealthy and middle class/poor continues to grow. When Trump gives a tax cut that helps the rich more than anyone else, her main talking point only grows stronger. So they put policy of the candidate ahead of the candidate's likeability, similar to many Trump voters.

I hate the phrase "income disparity," it is such a liberal red herring.  The relative status of two people is irrelevant to the absolute change.  In other words, are lower income/poor people worse off than they were 10 years ago?  20?  50?  A rising tide lifts all boats, a wise man once said.

To a liberal, if I make $3 and you make $5 that is unfair.  We should each make $2. 

[Masshole 642]

10 hours ago, Brad GLuckman said:

I think a lot of people that will support Warren over Trump will agree that shes a garbage human being that has advanced her career due to lies about ethnicity and persecution. But they also think the system is rigged so income disparity between the wealthy and middle class/poor continues to grow. When Trump gives a tax cut that helps the rich more than anyone else, her main talking point only grows stronger. So they put policy of the candidate ahead of the candidate's likeability, similar to many Trump voters.

I have some disagreement with the phrasing of the statement that the tax cut helped the rich more than others.   By definition if you pay more in taxes and there's a tax cut. . .

But otherwise this is pretty accurate and a pretty solid summary.    

She's my senator and I am not a fan.   My largest issue with her is I don't believe her life experience is what I am looking for in someone who will be making decisions that impact my life.   I don't care if you have a D, R, I, or S socialist next to your name.   If your resume is "lawyer, teacher, politician" = that's a big no from me.   I am the point where some kind of business experience or military experience is a prerequisite for me for a political candidate.    I feel strongly that if you haven't swam in those waters you really don't understand America and American people in general.   I am cool with doctors and some other stuff like that.  But "lawyer, teacher, politician" is a deal breaker for me.

I know all the "Trump's dad bought him his business" ppl will come out of the woodwork.   But I don't care that much about how you got there.   If you found yourself in a position where you were in charge of a large business and did that for a long time, OK you get credit for that in my book.  

 

[lickin_starfish 1,482]

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[Mike Honcho 4,039]

Quote

"There's many different ways, by the way. Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, 'No, no, the lower 25 percent that can't afford private'… I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now … the government's gonna pay for it. But we're going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it's going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything." 

 

[Brad GLuckman 518]

5 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I hate the phrase "income disparity," it is such a liberal red herring.  The relative status of two people is irrelevant to the absolute change.  In other words, are lower income/poor people worse off than they were 10 years ago?  20?  50?  A rising tide lifts all boats, a wise man once said.

To a liberal, if I make $3 and you make $5 that is unfair.  We should each make $2. 

I am not sure if we are better off than 50 years ago. Yes, advances in technology and healthcare make daily life better, but economically are we as a society better off? Comparing costs of college, healthcare, and housing to 30 years ago, I would say millenials are at a disadvantage compared to their parents. Everyone has seen this viral video, which certainly has it's issues but the overall point stands. 

 

[Gladiators 1,904]

What is wealth and why is it so important?

[Voltaire 4,562]

40 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

What is wealth and why is it so important?

That's a good question ...if you grew up in a cave in Borneo.