Coronavirus - Doomsday

[Leeson 54]

5 minutes ago, Intense Observer said:

Imagine CNN blaming the dead people from WTC or Boston on W or Obama while the bodies were still warm.

The response by governors, Congress, and media is 100% to divide and destroy this country so Trump loses in November.

Too bad Americans are stronger than that. Trump will MAGA-A

Sorry I asked. I can see you're part of the problem. Not part of the solution. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

8 minutes ago, Leeson said:

Can you clarify if you're talking about Boston or 9/11? Because your statement of "impacting people at one specific location had no effect on anyone else",  is exactly what I was talking about.

 

 I thought you brought up Boston bombing and people staying indoors. 

  1 hour ago, Leeson said:

Speaking of Boston. Didn't they shut down Metro Boston and ask people to stay inside when the bombers were on the loose? Curios if people said "fock that, this is a free country"?

[KSB2424 3,148]

I just looked up 'Leeson' in the Merriam-Websters Dictionary.   It means:   

Fucking idiot

Makes sense, I always relied on Merriam and Webster for the troof. 

[Leeson 54]

6 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

 I thought you brought up Boston bombing and people staying indoors. 

Speaking of Boston. Didn't they shut down Metro Boston and ask people to stay inside when the bombers were on the loose? Curios if people said "fock that, this is a free country"?

I did. But your statement can be applied to 9/11 as well. 

[Leeson 54]

1 minute ago, KSB2424 said:

I just looked up 'Leeson' in the Merriam-Websters Dictionary.   It means:   

Fucking idiot

Makes sense, I always relied on Merriam and Webster for the troof. 

Oh that's a good one. Who read it to you?

[wiffleball 4,790]

This reminder that the Boston Marathon only killed three Marathon ians. Hell, Ted Kennedy killed three bartenders a night on their way to or from Chappaquiddick. 

[drobeski 3,061]

8 hours ago, FeelingMN said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52493073

 

 

Aren't you the don't use masks guy or should I say weren't you  ?

[Reality 3,121]

 

[Intense Observer 344]

8/10

Leesen not going to like one bit.

[MDC 7,526]

10 minutes ago, Intense Observer said:

8/10

Leesen not going to like one bit.

Conservative “humor” is so cringeworthy.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,369]

Better than snl

[MDC 7,526]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Better than snl

Debatable. A very low bar to clear either way.

[Leeson 54]

1 hour ago, Intense Observer said:

8/10

Leesen not going to like one bit.

You were hoping I wouldn't like it. But, it was mildly amusing. Could have been done better. 

Sorry to disappoint your Saturday. 

[jerryskids 6,871]

Funny vid but too long; he shouldn't have done the whole song.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,369]

39 minutes ago, Leeson said:

You were hoping I wouldn't like it. But, it was mildly amusing. Could have been done better. 

Sorry to disappoint your Saturday. 

the voice should have sounded more like Corey Hart and it would have been much better

 

[Strike 5,625]

Colorado inflated Covid deaths:

https://krdo.com/news/top-stories/2020/05/15/colorados-state-health-dept-revises-method-of-counting-covid-19-deaths-878-deaths-as-of-friday/

New York underreporting nursing home Covid Deaths:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/15/new-york-coronavirus-reporting-nursing-home-deaths-undercounting/

How can we trust these people's stats?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,519]

On 4/10/2020 at 11:49 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

The stats are forever in the wind. We will never get an accurate assessment . There was no uniformity in reporting and every state has different rules. Then add in incentive for reporting it a certain way. We will all just have to accept that going forward. 

This guy knew 

[jerryskids 6,871]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Colorado inflated Covid deaths:

https://krdo.com/news/top-stories/2020/05/15/colorados-state-health-dept-revises-method-of-counting-covid-19-deaths-878-deaths-as-of-friday/

New York underreporting nursing home Covid Deaths:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/15/new-york-coronavirus-reporting-nursing-home-deaths-undercounting/

How can we trust these people's stats?

It's all crap.  I'm pretty resolved to losing my bet to PFB at this point at the 100K "deaths," but it is money to a charity so it's all good. 

The NY thing is particularly disturbing, if you find political cover-ups disturbing.  I'm kinda numb to it at this point.

[Strike 5,625]

Just now, jerryskids said:

It's all crap.  I'm pretty resolved to losing my bet to PFB at this point at the 100K "deaths," but it is money to a charity so it's all good. 

The NY thing is particularly disturbing, if you find political cover-ups disturbing.  I'm kinda numb to it at this point.

Yeah. Cuomo is a POS with a hell of a lot more blood on his hands than Trump, but who does the media vilify daily?

[The Observer 641]

I've heard gov Cuomo and Dr Fauci both claim that death counts are severely undercounted. Another people say that they're over counted.  It's safe to say the number isn't exact. If putting the word "approximately"makes you feel better, then by all means do it.  Approximately 90,000 Americans are dead.   There. Sounds so much more comforting.  

[Leeson 54]

40 minutes ago, Strike said:

Colorado inflated Covid deaths:

https://krdo.com/news/top-stories/2020/05/15/colorados-state-health-dept-revises-method-of-counting-covid-19-deaths-878-deaths-as-of-friday/

New York underreporting nursing home Covid Deaths:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/15/new-york-coronavirus-reporting-nursing-home-deaths-undercounting/

How can we trust these people's stats?

You can't trust stats or votes. 

But, you can't trust an embedded microchip either. 

So, we are left with the option arguing every outcome that ever happens for the rest of our days. 

[FeelingMN 273]

15 hours ago, drobeski said:

Aren't you the don't use masks guy or should I say weren't you  ?

Nope.  Never.

I am the guy who points out how dumb you sound when you parrot misinformation pedaled by Dummy Don though.

[Utilit99 4,099]

6 minutes ago, FeelingMN said:

Nope.  Never.

I am the guy who points out how dumb you sound when you parrot misinformation pedaled by Dummy Don though.

I would just be interested in seeing you post even 1 intelligent thing. Cause so far, you are 0 for 8,886 from what I can see.

[Fireballer 2,647]

 

[Leeson 54]

Can we compare coronavirus to seasonal flu? I see people commenting all the time that up to 60k people die every year from the flu. But, we've only been dealing with coronavirus for about 4 months in the U.S. We don't have a full year of data to compare.

If we had done nothing to slow the spread of coronavirus, wouldn't the number of dead be much higher? Also, if we shut down the country for 2-3 months each winter, wouldn't the number of deaths from seasonal flu be much smaller?

For all those that want to call this TDS or some other made up thing BS. This is a simple question about logic. It could applied to any President in the history of the country. If it makes it easier for you to answer, assume that this is happening during the Obama administration.

 

[lickin_starfish 1,946]

The seasonal flu deaths would be a lot higher every year if we counted things like heart attacks, diabetes, traffic accidents, and alcohol poisoning towards the flu deaths.

[Strike 5,625]

10 minutes ago, Leeson said:

Can we compare coronavirus to seasonal flu? I see people commenting all the time that up to 60k people die every year from the flu. But, we've only been dealing with coronavirus for about 4 months in the U.S. We don't have a full year of data to compare.

If we had done nothing to slow the spread of coronavirus, wouldn't the number of dead be much higher? Also, if we shut down the country for 2-3 months each winter, wouldn't the number of deaths from seasonal flu be much smaller?

For all those that want to call this TDS or some other made up thing BS. This is a simple question about logic. It could applied to any President in the history of the country. If it makes it easier for you to answer, assume that this is happening during the Obama administration.

 

Not one person here has said we shouldn't have done anything to slow the spread Covid-19.  So, this post starts off with a false premise.  It might mean something on some other site but here no one has suggested that.  EVER.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,519]

9 minutes ago, Leeson said:

Can we compare coronavirus to seasonal flu? I see people commenting all the time that up to 60k people die every year from the flu. But, we've only been dealing with coronavirus for about 4 months in the U.S. We don't have a full year of data to compare.

If we had done nothing to slow the spread of coronavirus, wouldn't the number of dead be much higher? Also, if we shut down the country for 2-3 months each winter, wouldn't the number of deaths from seasonal flu be much smaller?

For all those that want to call this TDS or some other made up thing BS. This is a simple question about logic. It could applied to any President in the history of the country. If it makes it easier for you to answer, assume that this is happening during the Obama administration.

 

Are you still going on about this? Tell your kid to stay home. Sucks but that’s what is going to happen anyway. We are opening up. 

[Leeson 54]

12 minutes ago, Strike said:

Not one person here has said we shouldn't have done anything to slow the spread Covid-19.  So, this post starts off with a false premise.  It might mean something on some other site but here no one has suggested that.  EVER.

You're having trouble understanding my comments. I never said that anyone has said we shouldn't do anything.

I am comparing the seasonal flu to covid-19. If we did nothing for covid-19 like shutting down flights from outside the country (which we don't do for seasonal flu), or closing down businesses (which we don't do for seasonal flu), or any number of other things. 

Got it?

[Leeson 54]

15 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

The seasonal flu deaths would be a lot higher every year if we counted things like heart attacks, diabetes, traffic accidents, and alcohol poisoning towards the flu deaths.

Would the seasonal flu deaths be lower if we had a vaccine that was more than 50% effective? What if we had more than 50% of the population actually get the seasonal flu vaccine?

Makes me wonder if the Covid-19 vaccine will be any more effective. Or what percent of the population will actually get it? Or if it will be a yearly vaccine?

[Leeson 54]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Are you still going on about this? Tell your kid to stay home. Sucks but that’s what is going to happen anyway. We are opening up. 

This has nothing to do with that. Some of us can move on to other topics. 

[Strike 5,625]

Why the fock is a drive in movie theater prohibited from opening?

https://www.mlive.com/coronavirus/2020/05/moviegoers-wait-in-long-lines-to-get-into-michigan-drive-in-that-opened-despite-stay-at-home-order.html

[Leeson 54]

Just now, Strike said:

There is only one significant difference between the seasonal flu and Covid-19.  The availability of a vaccine.  If we had a vaccine Covid-19 would just be another flu.  Maybe even less.  We know now that it's much less potent than we thought it was a few months ago, and that specific demographics are much more at risk than the general population.  If I'm misunderstanding your comment it's only with regard to what's the focking point of comparing them? 

That's kind of my point. 

People are comparing a years worth of flu deaths (65k) to a few months of Covid-19 deaths (80k +).  What do the numbers look like after a full year? That's strike one when comparing them.

If we had a Covid-19 vaccine that was 50% effective and only taken by 50% of the population, would the total deaths per year be higher or lower than seasonal flu? We don't have a vaccine, so that's strike two. (Just to clarify, the flu vaccine is recommended for the same specific demographics that are effected by Covid-19)

If we shut down the country for two months during the flu season, what would the number of deaths for seasonal flu look like? Probably a lot lower. We did that with Covid-19, and we still have more deaths. That's strike three. 

I see people posting this argument on social media. 

[The Observer 641]

25 minutes ago, Strike said:

Why the fock is a drive in movie theater prohibited from opening?

https://www.mlive.com/coronavirus/2020/05/moviegoers-wait-in-long-lines-to-get-into-michigan-drive-in-that-opened-despite-stay-at-home-order.html

Rest rooms possibly?  That can be the only thing I can think of.

[jerryskids 6,871]

2 hours ago, Leeson said:

Can we compare coronavirus to seasonal flu? I see people commenting all the time that up to 60k people die every year from the flu. But, we've only been dealing with coronavirus for about 4 months in the U.S. We don't have a full year of data to compare.

If we had done nothing to slow the spread of coronavirus, wouldn't the number of dead be much higher? Also, if we shut down the country for 2-3 months each winter, wouldn't the number of deaths from seasonal flu be much smaller?

For all those that want to call this TDS or some other made up thing BS. This is a simple question about logic. It could applied to any President in the history of the country. If it makes it easier for you to answer, assume that this is happening during the Obama administration.

 

Yes, if we had done nothing, deaths would have been higher.  How much is hard to say, but it is clear that the vast majority would continue to be elderly and/or compromised.

Yes, if we shut down the country for 2-3 months each winter there would be fewer seasonal flu deaths.  How much is hard to say...

But what I see coming out of this is:  there is some nasty shiot out there if you are elderly or compromised.  If that describes you, you might want to wear a mask, avoid large social gatherings, or risk being dead.  Like... forever in history, but we for some reason just didn't put it together.  The rest of us need to get on with living.

COVID-19 is a singular event.  Something similar will happen again, soon.  We should certainly do a post-mortem (no pun intended) on how to handle pandemics better in the future.  COVID-19 is proving to be annoying; lasts for a long time, 0.1% to 0.5% morbidity estimates, practically all in elderly/compromised.  Some day an actual killer pandemic will arrive, possibly from the lying basturds in China, and we need to be better prepared.

[Leeson 54]

11 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yes, if we had done nothing, deaths would have been higher.  How much is hard to say, but it is clear that the vast majority would continue to be elderly and/or compromised.

Yes, if we shut down the country for 2-3 months each winter there would be fewer seasonal flu deaths.  How much is hard to say...

But what I see coming out of this is:  there is some nasty shiot out there if you are elderly or compromised.  If that describes you, you might want to wear a mask, avoid large social gatherings, or risk being dead.  Like... forever in history, but we for some reason just didn't put it together.  The rest of us need to get on with living.

COVID-19 is a singular event.  Something similar will happen again, soon.  We should certainly do a post-mortem (no pun intended) on how to handle pandemics better in the future.  COVID-19 is proving to be annoying; lasts for a long time, 0.1% to 0.5% morbidity estimates, practically all in elderly/compromised.  Some day an actual killer pandemic will arrive, possibly from the lying basturds in China, and we need to be better prepared.

Not sure if other people see something different, but I don't see people doing much to combat seasonal flu. A few people may wear a mask. But, you don't see anybody social distance. It seems like everyone believes that the flu shot makes them invincible. With it only being 50% effective, maybe they will do more to protect themselves in the future and the deaths will decrease. It also makes me wonder if the Covid vaccine will be 51% effective and considered a success when compared to the seasonal flu vaccine.

As to the bolded, I'm not sure if it's you trying to convince me of this. But, I've never said we shouldn't move forward, cautiously. 

[lickin_starfish 1,946]

I don't do schit to protect myself from the seasonal flu. I go about my business. If I get the flu, I stay home from work for a day or two. Big fukking deal.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Y'all don't get it.  You should only live a free life if there is a 0.00% chance of dying.  

[Leeson 54]

Some of you guys have a hard time following a conversation. It's all one side and that's it. No original thought involved. 

If old people and people with medical conditions wore masks and practiced social distancing during flu season, would deaths go down? Is that something that may happen as a result of this pandemic?

[KSB2424 3,148]

1 minute ago, Leeson said:

Some of you guys have a hard time following a conversation. It's all one side and that's it. No original thought involved. 

If old people and people with medical conditions wore masks and practiced social distancing during flu season, would deaths go down? Is that something that may happen as a result of this pandemic?

Oh the irony.

If ShoNuff and GFIAFP had a baby its name would be............Leeson.